WTF : U.S. Officials Repeatedly Urged China to Help Avert War in Ukraine, Shared Intel With China Who Then Shared it With Russia | |
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(OP) User ID: 81823695 United States 02/25/2022 08:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF : U.S. Officials Repeatedly Urged China to Help Avert War in Ukraine, Shared Intel With China Who Then Shared it With Russia The previously unreported talks between American and Chinese officials show how the Biden administration tried to use intelligence findings and diplomacy to persuade a superpower it views as a growing adversary to stop the invasion of Ukraine, and how that nation, led by President Xi Jinping, persistently sided with Russia even as the evidence of Moscow’s plans for a military offensive grew over the winter. In recent weeks, the two nations negotiated a 30-year contract for Russia to supply gas to China through a new pipeline. They blocked a demand from Washington that the United Nations impose additional sanctions on North Korea for new missile tests, even though the two nations had agreed to similar sanctions before. And Russia moved large numbers of troops from Siberia to its west, a sign that Moscow, in preparing for a potential invasion of Ukraine, trusts China along their shared border in the east. Their long courtship reached a peak with the 5,000-word joint statement that said their partnership had “no limits,” which some Biden administration officials see as a turning point in China-Russia relations and a brazen challenge to American and European power. The statement was the first in which China explicitly joined Russia in opposing any further expansion of NATO, and the two countries denounced Washington’s Indo-Pacific strategy and its new security partnership, AUKUS, which includes Britain and Australia. The nations also described Taiwan as “an inalienable part of China.” China and Russia declared that they would work with other countries to “promote genuine democracy” and counter American-led ideology and institutions — building a new world order in which autocracies are unchallenged, U.S. and European officials say. [link to www.nytimes.com (secure)] . Last Edited by ~kpm~ on 02/25/2022 03:04 PM ~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78421039 United States 02/25/2022 08:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF : U.S. Officials Repeatedly Urged China to Help Avert War in Ukraine, Shared Intel With China Who Then Shared it With Russia Americans presented Chinese officials with intelligence on Russia’s troop buildup in hopes that President Xi Jinping would step in, but were repeatedly rebuffed. Quoting: ~kpm~ Over three months, senior Biden administration officials held half a dozen urgent meetings with top Chinese officials in which the Americans presented intelligence showing Russia’s troop buildup around Ukraine and beseeched the Chinese to tell Russia not to invade, according to U.S. officials. Each time, the Chinese officials, including the foreign minister and the ambassador to the United States, rebuffed the Americans, saying they did not think an invasion was in the works. [link to www.nytimes.com (secure)] . . Russia and China recently signed a defensive pact. Unlike American leadership they'll adhere to their agreements. |
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(OP) User ID: 81823695 United States 02/25/2022 08:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF : U.S. Officials Repeatedly Urged China to Help Avert War in Ukraine, Shared Intel With China Who Then Shared it With Russia Some American officials say the ties between China and Russia appear stronger than at any time since the Cold War. The two now present themselves as an ideological front against the United States and its European and Asian allies, even as Mr. Putin carries out the invasion of Ukraine, whose sovereignty China has recognized for decades. ~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~ |
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(OP) User ID: 81823695 United States 02/25/2022 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF : U.S. Officials Repeatedly Urged China to Help Avert War in Ukraine, Shared Intel With China Who Then Shared it With Russia Hua Chunying, a Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman, accused the U.S. of heightening tensions in Ukraine.Noel Celis/Agence France-Presse — “On the Ukraine issue, lately the U.S. has been sending weapons to Ukraine, heightening tensions, creating panic and even hyping up the possibility of warfare,” she said. “If someone keeps pouring oil on the flame while accusing others of not doing their best to put out the fire, such kind of behavior is clearly irresponsible and immoral.” [link to www.nytimes.com (secure)] ~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~ |
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(OP) User ID: 81823695 United States 02/25/2022 09:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF : U.S. Officials Repeatedly Urged China to Help Avert War in Ukraine, Shared Intel With China Who Then Shared it With Russia Ms. Hua’s fiery anti-American remarks as Russia was moving to attack its neighbor stunned some current and former U.S. officials and China analysts in the United States. ~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~ |
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(OP) User ID: 81823695 United States 02/25/2022 10:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF : U.S. Officials Repeatedly Urged China to Help Avert War in Ukraine, Shared Intel With China Who Then Shared it With Russia It’s beyond incompetence, it’s a national threat In what universe did the feckless Biden admin think China wouldn’t share the info with Russia No wonder Biden said he had to no comment on China and Russia said anyone who interferes will be sorry And was Biden being blackmailed to give Putin NS2? ~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~ |
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(OP) User ID: 81823695 United States 02/25/2022 10:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF : U.S. Officials Repeatedly Urged China to Help Avert War in Ukraine, Shared Intel With China Who Then Shared it With Russia What on God’s green earth did they think China would do to help us? They kept showing intel even thought they knew China was not interested and then are shocked that China turned on them I’m stunned, but shouldn’t be Now we know why Biden said he wouldn’t comment on China yesterday, they fucked him over NYT finally doing some journalism, hope this is the start of Biden’s down fall ~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82278669 United States 02/25/2022 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF : U.S. Officials Repeatedly Urged China to Help Avert War in Ukraine, Shared Intel With China Who Then Shared it With Russia Zelensky delivers address in Russian, calling for peace Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky spoke directly to the people of Russia on Wednesday night, saying they have been told by Russian President Vladimir Putin that he has a "plan to free the people of Ukraine, but the Ukrainian people are free." Zelensky delivered his taped appeal in Russian, stating that the images and information being shared by Russian leaders and state media isn't telling the actual story of what is happening in Ukraine. "They say that Ukraine may pose a threat to Russia," Zelensky said. "This wasn't a case in the past, nor is it now, and won't be in the future. Our main goal is to maintain peace in Ukraine and keep Ukrainian citizens safe." He said Russian television "will certainly not show this video, but the Russian people must watch it. The truth must be known." Putin has said he sent troops to eastern Ukraine on Monday for a "peacekeeping" mission. A Kremlin spokesperson on Wednesday said separatist forces have asked Russia for help "in repelling the aggression of the armed forces and formations of Ukraine," and this could be the pretext Putin needs to start a full-scale invasion of the country, Western officials warn. There are about 200,000 Russian troops stationed near the Ukraine border, and a Pentagon official on Wednesday said nearly all of the forces are in their final position for combat. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 82278669 United States 02/25/2022 10:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF : U.S. Officials Repeatedly Urged China to Help Avert War in Ukraine, Shared Intel With China Who Then Shared it With Russia don't worry, it's all over already Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82278669 Zelensky delivers address in Russian, calling for peace Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky spoke directly to the people of Russia on Wednesday night, saying they have been told by Russian President Vladimir Putin that he has a "plan to free the people of Ukraine, but the Ukrainian people are free." Zelensky delivered his taped appeal in Russian, stating that the images and information being shared by Russian leaders and state media isn't telling the actual story of what is happening in Ukraine. "They say that Ukraine may pose a threat to Russia," Zelensky said. "This wasn't a case in the past, nor is it now, and won't be in the future. Our main goal is to maintain peace in Ukraine and keep Ukrainian citizens safe." He said Russian television "will certainly not show this video, but the Russian people must watch it. The truth must be known." Putin has said he sent troops to eastern Ukraine on Monday for a "peacekeeping" mission. A Kremlin spokesperson on Wednesday said separatist forces have asked Russia for help "in repelling the aggression of the armed forces and formations of Ukraine," and this could be the pretext Putin needs to start a full-scale invasion of the country, Western officials warn. There are about 200,000 Russian troops stationed near the Ukraine border, and a Pentagon official on Wednesday said nearly all of the forces are in their final position for combat. Thread: Ukraine's President Calls On Putin To Begin Peace Negotiations, that took long to resist against Putin Volodymyr Zelensky called on Russian President Vladimir Putin “to sit down at the negotiating table to stop the death of people,” the Ukrainian President said in a video message early on Friday. Meanwhile, Russian troops are reportedly advancing to Kyiv, and there have been numerous reports of airstrikes on the Ukrainian capital and other cities overnight. “Today at 10:30 am at the entrances to Chernihiv, Hostomel and Melitopol there were heavy fighting. People died,” Zelensky said on Twitter early on Friday. Meanwhile, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said, as carried by ABC News: “We are ready for negotiations, at any moment, as soon as the Armed Forces of Ukraine respond to the call of our president to cease resistance and lay down their arms. No one intends to attack them.” Lavrov was speaking during a televised meeting in Moscow with pro-Russian separatist leaders from eastern Ukraine. Russia attacked Ukraine early on Thursday, confirming the worst-case scenarios of the U.S., which had been warning for weeks that an invasion was imminent. |
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(OP) User ID: 81823695 United States 02/25/2022 10:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF : U.S. Officials Repeatedly Urged China to Help Avert War in Ukraine, Shared Intel With China Who Then Shared it With Russia What on God’s green earth did they think China would do to help us? They kept showing intel even thought they knew China was not interested and then are shocked that China turned on them I'm sure Mr.Putin appreciated the Chinese sharing that intel with him. That’s what gave him the balls to threaten retaliation on anyone who interferes Biden needs to answer for this ~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~ |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77983873 United States 02/25/2022 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF : U.S. Officials Repeatedly Urged China to Help Avert War in Ukraine, Shared Intel With China Who Then Shared it With Russia Americans presented Chinese officials with intelligence on Russia’s troop buildup in hopes that President Xi Jinping would step in, but were repeatedly rebuffed. Quoting: ~kpm~ Over three months, senior Biden administration officials held half a dozen urgent meetings with top Chinese officials in which the Americans presented intelligence showing Russia’s troop buildup around Ukraine and beseeched the Chinese to tell Russia not to invade, according to U.S. officials. Each time, the Chinese officials, including the foreign minister and the ambassador to the United States, rebuffed the Americans, saying they did not think an invasion was in the works. [link to www.nytimes.com (secure)] . I'll tell you what is scary about this is - we better watch ourselves lest they decide they don't need the dollar either. |
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User ID: 82245008 Brazil 02/25/2022 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF : U.S. Officials Repeatedly Urged China to Help Avert War in Ukraine, Shared Intel With China Who Then Shared it With Russia I don't know what was so secret about this offensive, that the Chinese government with satellites and billions in military investment could not know. All of us at GLP knew everything months in advance. Some here even already anticipated this in 2014. It's just more fake news to try to create another enemy where there is none. China is not just another little country that accepts being thrown into another proxy war of imperialist tyrants. NATO forced Russia to defend itself and now it intends to force China to defend itself. They want a world war, at any cost. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80061763 United States 02/25/2022 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF : U.S. Officials Repeatedly Urged China to Help Avert War in Ukraine, Shared Intel With China Who Then Shared it With Russia What on God’s green earth did they think China would do to help us? They kept showing intel even thought they knew China was not interested and then are shocked that China turned on them I’m stunned, but shouldn’t be Now we know why Biden said he wouldn’t comment on China yesterday, they fucked him over NYT finally doing some journalism, hope this is the start of Biden’s down fall Psaki must be furiously searching for the West Wing episode that dealt with this same situation. |