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Does Tobacco really have any psychoactive or shamanic properties? If so, what are they?

 
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Does Tobacco really have any psychoactive or shamanic properties? If so, what are they?
I had a very lucid dream last night where I kept going into different convenience stores..trying to find the right color box of American Spirits I wanted. All the ones I could find were just weird dream colored boxes and mixes that don't exist in the waking world. Then I moved on from American Spirits to try and find a pack of Lucky Strikes..and only kept coming up with weird varieties of Luckies that don't really exist.

That's beside the point. But anyway..what other properties does tobacco contain besides nicotine..that might give it psychoactive or shamanic properties?
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Have you smoked a cigarette?
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Did it make you a tripping shaman?
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Re: Does Tobacco really have any psychoactive or shamanic properties? If so, what are they?
Have you smoked a cigarette?
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Smoked on and off for 30 years. Other than nicotine jonesing and a little more increased concentration after smoking, I've never experienced anything else.
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Re: Does Tobacco really have any psychoactive or shamanic properties? If so, what are they?
I dont know about psychoactive properties but I do know one thing:
The smoking table was always the most interesting group of people to me
Throughout history our artists, writers, painters, even our leaders smoked nicotine.
I have heard it helps prevent Alzheimers disease (damage to the brain)
It seems nicotine may have some memory/brain protective mechanism..
And.. it makes people sharper and more alert after smoking

Last Edited by Butterfly girl on 02/20/2022 01:27 PM
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Re: Does Tobacco really have any psychoactive or shamanic properties? If so, what are they?
I had a very lucid dream last night where I kept going into different convenience stores..trying to find the right color box of American Spirits I wanted. All the ones I could find were just weird dream colored boxes and mixes that don't exist in the waking world. Then I moved on from American Spirits to try and find a pack of Lucky Strikes..and only kept coming up with weird varieties of Luckies that don't really exist.

That's beside the point. But anyway..what other properties does tobacco contain besides nicotine..that might give it psychoactive or shamanic properties?
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Cancer. Enjoy.
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Re: Does Tobacco really have any psychoactive or shamanic properties? If so, what are they?
I had a very lucid dream last night where I kept going into different convenience stores..trying to find the right color box of American Spirits I wanted. All the ones I could find were just weird dream colored boxes and mixes that don't exist in the waking world. Then I moved on from American Spirits to try and find a pack of Lucky Strikes..and only kept coming up with weird varieties of Luckies that don't really exist.

That's beside the point. But anyway..what other properties does tobacco contain besides nicotine..that might give it psychoactive or shamanic properties?
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Nicotine is used in certain ayahuasca admixtures. Which means it can unlock dmt
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It's been said that tobacco attracts the gods.


Also, my favorite American Spirits come in the black box but I can't afford them anymore.
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Re: Does Tobacco really have any psychoactive or shamanic properties? If so, what are they?
I dont know about psychoactive properties but I do know one thing:
The smoking table was always the most interesting group of people to me
Throughout history our artists, writers, painters, even our leaders smoked nicotine.
I have heard it helps prevent Alzheimers disease (damage to the brain)
It seems nicotine may have some memory/brain protective mechanism..
And.. it makes people sharper and more alert after smoking
 Quoting: Butterfly girl


Yeah, tobacco seems to sharpen memory while weed is the opposite.
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Yeah, tobacco seems to sharpen memory while weed is the opposite.
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So... both... ~ = caugh.
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Yeah, tobacco seems to sharpen memory while weed is the opposite.
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So... both... ~ = caugh.
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Yeah, but cigarettes have kept me sane.
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Does Tobacco really have any psychoactive or shamanic properties? If so, what are they?
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Yes.

Tobacco is a stimulant (causes a flood of dopamine and serotonin), its also an MAO-inhibitor.

Want to feel the powerful effects of tobacco.


For three days take a B complex vitamin with breakfast.

Then on third day an hour after breakfast, drink something caffeinated wait 20 mins and then have a cigarette. Your brain will be on fire. You'll be set to hummingbird mode.

PS - you are prone to severe panic attacks, dont do it.
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Tobacco is supposed to attract good spirits and is supposed to aid in purifying the smoker.. Also if you haven't smoked in a long time it will probably give you a mild buzz.
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Nicotine is a insecticide.
Reptilians can not be in it's presence.
Hence Native American peace pipe smoking in a circle.
This was a exclusionary practice as they knew reptilians could not be present.
Lots of info at SOTT.
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Hi OP. This subject has recently crossed my mind in the past day or two so I'll share with you.

I smoked a lot, I quit maybe 6 months ago and haven't smoked since. Nor do I really want to.

I feel that inhaling tobacco is actually mostly bad. this should be obvious. But I recently on a walk decided that tobacco itself isn't bad, nor is the smoke.

Burning tobacco is a good thing, but it doesn't belong in our bodies I think. At least not mine. I feel like the solution is to use tobacco strictly as an incense, but inhaling it should be forbidden. so burning tobacco as an incense is encouraged, but again inhaling is forbidden.
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Re: Does Tobacco really have any psychoactive or shamanic properties? If so, what are they?
Hi OP. This subject has recently crossed my mind in the past day or two so I'll share with you.

I smoked a lot, I quit maybe 6 months ago and haven't smoked since. Nor do I really want to.

I feel that inhaling tobacco is actually mostly bad. this should be obvious. But I recently on a walk decided that tobacco itself isn't bad, nor is the smoke.

Burning tobacco is a good thing, but it doesn't belong in our bodies I think. At least not mine. I feel like the solution is to use tobacco strictly as an incense, but inhaling it should be forbidden. so burning tobacco as an incense is encouraged, but again inhaling is forbidden.
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If you made cannabis incense I would inhale all of the smoke that I possibly could. No one would tell me that inhaling cannabis is forbidden. NO ONE!
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I get a vibe from it
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Re: Does Tobacco really have any psychoactive or shamanic properties? If so, what are they?
Used occasionally - i.e. ritually, wild tobacco like 'Mapacho' has a short intense disconnection 'high.'.

The brief disconnection from normal consciousness allows shamanic connection to other dimensional awareness, communion with ancestors and future visions etc.

It was widely used to bond with visitors by native American cultures.

It is not chemically psychoactive, just a disruptor mechanism for normal awareness.
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they are said to make you more resistant to mind control

protect from coronavirus (binding some receptor)

helps schizophrenia

kill lung parasites and other parasites (used as insecticide)
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Re: Does Tobacco really have any psychoactive or shamanic properties? If so, what are they?
Nicotine is a insecticide.
Reptilians can not be in it's presence.
Hence Native American peace pipe smoking in a circle.
This was a exclusionary practice as they knew reptilians could not be present.
Lots of info at SOTT.
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What's SOTT?
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Re: Does Tobacco really have any psychoactive or shamanic properties? If so, what are they?
I dont know about psychoactive properties but I do know one thing:
The smoking table was always the most interesting group of people to me
Throughout history our artists, writers, painters, even our leaders smoked nicotine.
I have heard it helps prevent Alzheimers disease (damage to the brain)
It seems nicotine may have some memory/brain protective mechanism..
And.. it makes people sharper and more alert after smoking
 Quoting: Butterfly girl


It's a sedative. Reduces stress, which promotes clear thinking. Natural and sun-cured is best. Commercial is contaminated and adulterated to make it more addictive and less effective for stress relief. Too many poisons added.
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Re: Does Tobacco really have any psychoactive or shamanic properties? If so, what are they?
I grew tobacco ...

There is a variety of Indian tobacco that is VERY strong, which the Holy men and Medicine men used.
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I grew tobacco ...

There is a variety of Indian tobacco that is VERY strong, which the Holy men and Medicine men used.
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Can you give me more information on this and where I can buy some tobacco seeds please I am in the UK Ian interested in growing some and any information would be great
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I grew tobacco ...

There is a variety of Indian tobacco that is VERY strong, which the Holy men and Medicine men used.
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Can you give me more information on this and where I can buy some tobacco seeds please I am in the UK Ian interested in growing some and any information would be great
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Growing it is easy. Drying and curing it is the hard part. You do that wrong, it will be un smoke able.
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I smoked moderately for over 40 years (1-2 packs a week). In no uncertain terms it helped me to focus and concentrate. When I moved to the country I found that because I was outside so much (I hated smoking indoors) I wanted to smoke way too much. So if I couldn't moderate it I decided to quit. It's been 7 years now. What's changed? Just one thing, I cannot focus and concentrate like I used to... absolute fact. Oh and my chronic post nasal drip just got worse as well.
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I quit weed and tobacco for over a year. Once I started tobacco again I definitely noticed a light high, like being mildly stoned. Its hard to notice if you smoke constantly though.
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Re: Does Tobacco really have any psychoactive or shamanic properties? If so, what are they?
Try something from the Middle East that’s barely known about in the states called Dohkha. It’s ultra concentrates nicotine tobacco. The first big hit after holding it in will make you feel like you’re tripping hard for like thirty seconds, then it goes away. It’s mind blowing what nicotine can actually do in large doses all at once. Definitely a minor psychedelic. And I’ve done almost all the drugs there are to do.
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Re: Does Tobacco really have any psychoactive or shamanic properties? If so, what are they?
Hm.. well it seems that the reason why Lucky Strike was so popular is that they advertised that it was Toasted...

I think that's basically the same as decarboxylation in cannabis...
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Re: Does Tobacco really have any psychoactive or shamanic properties? If so, what are they?
Hm.. well it seems that the reason why Lucky Strike was so popular is that they advertised that it was Toasted...

I think that's basically the same as decarboxylation in cannabis...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82824898


and washing well, yeah you might do the same with cannabis as well... or uhh.. what's it called. Water curing.. flushing etc.





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