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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78351070 United States 03/17/2022 11:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey cry babies...Since 1990 the Fed has raised rates in 4 different cycles each lasting a few years. This year the Fed will probably raise rates a few more times. Quoting: pud2.0 EVERY SINGLE TIME the markets ended up higher. History is your friend. Yes...because token meaningless interest rate hikes will hurt people with adjustable rate mortgages & credit card debt. They will do NOTHING to stop or even slow inflation at this point. And markets will head up. Its a house of cards, propped up by the victims of whichever "crisis" du jour is occurring at the moment. It will implode. Not this year though. |
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Cap’n Obvious
User ID: 78963999 United States 03/18/2022 12:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The fed has been too slow to react on inflation, and I think the stock market will react badly when they do start tightening! Quoting: bigD111 They were sure quick to raise rates early in trump admin when inflation was a fraction of what it is now. And it trump gets back in, look out. Have a nice day = GFY. GFY = Go Fuck Yourself. If this offends you then have a nice day. |
Cap’n Obvious
User ID: 78963999 United States 03/18/2022 12:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey cry babies...Since 1990 the Fed has raised rates in 4 different cycles each lasting a few years. This year the Fed will probably raise rates a few more times. Quoting: pud2.0 EVERY SINGLE TIME the markets ended up higher. History is your friend. Yes...because token meaningless interest rate hikes will hurt people with adjustable rate mortgages & credit card debt. They will do NOTHING to stop or even slow inflation at this point. And markets will head up. Its a house of cards, propped up by the victims of whichever "crisis" du jour is occurring at the moment. It will implode. Not this year though. It will hurt anyone wanting to buy a home. Have a nice day = GFY. GFY = Go Fuck Yourself. If this offends you then have a nice day. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71434337 United Kingdom 03/18/2022 12:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.msn.com (secure)] Quoting: pool The Fed and others are planning to reduce the size of their balance sheets, cutting their support for markets. It's never been tried before on this scale and it's scaring investors. Even the Fed is uncertain what the effects will be. Central banks have flooded ailing economies with trillions of dollars over the last decade and a half, under a now well-known policy called quantitative easing, or QE. But the Federal Reserve – along with other central banks – is now preparing to put its engine into reverse and start cutting its $9 trillion balance sheet down to size, as it grapples with the strongest inflation in 40 years. Markets are going up in the face of tightening. Why might that be? Could be that traders know the Fed will have to cut rates and restart QE sooner rather than later. The Fed is trapped. Taking away the punch bowl will cause recession depression. Low rates and QE increases the money supply which is the definition of inflation. Can't have it both ways that's why they are trapped. Inflate or die. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72604371 United States 03/18/2022 01:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.msn.com (secure)] Quoting: pool The Fed and others are planning to reduce the size of their balance sheets, cutting their support for markets. It's never been tried before on this scale and it's scaring investors. Even the Fed is uncertain what the effects will be. Central banks have flooded ailing economies with trillions of dollars over the last decade and a half, under a now well-known policy called quantitative easing, or QE. But the Federal Reserve – along with other central banks – is now preparing to put its engine into reverse and start cutting its $9 trillion balance sheet down to size, as it grapples with the strongest inflation in 40 years. No one likes taking medicine! However, why put off the inevitable? |
Nostros
User ID: 78079791 United States 03/18/2022 01:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ALL of the markets have rolled over. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82280192 The signs came in the November close, and now it's manifesting. I warned months ago, charts showing the rollover - just like Bitcoin rolled over, and welcome to today. The MACD monthly on the DOW, S&P, and NASDAQ, has rolled over. It's only down from here, and that snowball is just getting started. If you know anything about charting, there is a 0.0% chance, that MACD will roll back over to the upside. They gave everyone a temporary reprieve in upward moving this week, that will resume back down lower very soon. The next leg down comes very soon. That said, in November I removed all equities from my 401k. While people were losing 20%-40%, I made maybe a few bucks. It's about wealth preservation only, not making money. 401k's, that are not self administered, which are most, do not usually allow you to short the market. They MUST keep you invested, for the grand fleecing. Welcome to the start of the grand fleecing. I use my outside funds to invest in market movements. The downside has been highly profitable. There will be more downside and highly profitable moves, still to come. The buy the dip crowd will find this to be a move that WILL become the falling knife. The buy the dip crowd has been conditioned for decades. Make no mistake. They will sell the public on the "shiny coin fear campaign of the day" to justify the moves, but at the end of the day, lower markets ARE locked in, for multiple months, if not until the end of 2022. DYODD. The charts are BLAZING with all the information you need to see. We are about to enter an entire timeline of financial misery and ruin for those that can't see it coming. If you thought losing 20-40% was bad, well folks, it's just getting started. Stay tuned. By 2030, you will own nothing, and be happy. Why? Because they plan to steal ALL your wealth and value through the stock markets. Nostros |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71434337 United Kingdom 03/18/2022 01:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.msn.com (secure)] Quoting: pool The Fed and others are planning to reduce the size of their balance sheets, cutting their support for markets. It's never been tried before on this scale and it's scaring investors. Even the Fed is uncertain what the effects will be. Central banks have flooded ailing economies with trillions of dollars over the last decade and a half, under a now well-known policy called quantitative easing, or QE. But the Federal Reserve – along with other central banks – is now preparing to put its engine into reverse and start cutting its $9 trillion balance sheet down to size, as it grapples with the strongest inflation in 40 years. No one likes taking medicine! However, why put off the inevitable? Peter is right but what we're looking at is the end of socialism. No more stuff for the free shit army or zombie corps. Zombie companies need to be allowed to fail so their assets can go to a productive business. The miss allocation of funds used to prop up the zombies should be put to more productive use. The beasts that have just come down from the trees will go ape shit. Civil unrest will be massive. It's one reason why I think states are changing laws to allow concealed carry without a permit. They know what's coming. I'm all for kicking the can down the road. May as well enjoy it while we can. |
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DakotaRose
User ID: 80910295 United States 03/18/2022 06:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good, the stock market isn't an economy. You can't keep artificially expanding it with printed money so a small percentage of the population can get rich at the expense of the rest. That bubble needs to pop no matter how painful it is. Waiting for Yeshua |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80889904 United States 03/18/2022 06:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | but doesn't it look a lot like the Minsky moment has arrived? the last sucker has borrowed the last penny and now cascading defaults flow Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80335962 Plenty more pennies in the printer pal. Come back when the 10 year yield heads up 5% in one week. THEN OP will be onto something. this!! the Stock Market is a Derivative of the Debt Market. Once you figure that out you will stop watching the stock market for the crash and start looking at the 10 year yield!!!!! |
Agent 99
User ID: 77082640 United States 03/18/2022 07:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey cry babies...Since 1990 the Fed has raised rates in 4 different cycles each lasting a few years. This year the Fed will probably raise rates a few more times. Quoting: pud2.0 EVERY SINGLE TIME the markets ended up higher. History is your friend. Yes...because token meaningless interest rate hikes will hurt people with adjustable rate mortgages & credit card debt. They will do NOTHING to stop or even slow inflation at this point. And markets will head up. Its a house of cards, propped up by the victims of whichever "crisis" du jour is occurring at the moment. It will implode. Not this year though. It will hurt anyone wanting to buy a home. From what I've seen is that alot of developers are taking $$$ from foreign places to make affordable housing. Looks like mass immigration is expected. Better to inflate to keep these transients moving... back to their home countries rather then them settling here. First and Second generation immigrants DRAIN general wealth in a country. This is the squeeze and where it is aimed. |
Agent 99
User ID: 77082640 United States 03/18/2022 07:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | but doesn't it look a lot like the Minsky moment has arrived? the last sucker has borrowed the last penny and now cascading defaults flow Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80335962 Plenty more pennies in the printer pal. Come back when the 10 year yield heads up 5% in one week. THEN OP will be onto something. this!! the Stock Market is a Derivative of the Debt Market. Once you figure that out you will stop watching the stock market for the crash and start looking at the 10 year yield!!!!! MbS owns 33% of the US Stock Market. That foreign investment alone is the volatile factor that sabotages the possible growth of wealth for common Americans. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80988722 United States 03/18/2022 07:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | but doesn't it look a lot like the Minsky moment has arrived? the last sucker has borrowed the last penny and now cascading defaults flow Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80335962 Plenty more pennies in the printer pal. Come back when the 10 year yield heads up 5% in one week. THEN OP will be onto something. this!! the Stock Market is a Derivative of the Debt Market. Once you figure that out you will stop watching the stock market for the crash and start looking at the 10 year yield!!!!! |
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User ID: 81810934 Canada 03/18/2022 08:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | POSSUM BELLIES GOING TO THE MOON! PUT ALL YOU GOT INTO POSSUM BELLIES!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80335962 Last Edited by Big Duke6 on 03/18/2022 08:05 AM |
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User ID: 80152997 United States 03/18/2022 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.msn.com (secure)] Quoting: pool The Fed and others are planning to reduce the size of their balance sheets, cutting their support for markets. It's never been tried before on this scale and it's scaring investors. Even the Fed is uncertain what the effects will be. Central banks have flooded ailing economies with trillions of dollars over the last decade and a half, under a now well-known policy called quantitative easing, or QE. But the Federal Reserve – along with other central banks – is now preparing to put its engine into reverse and start cutting its $9 trillion balance sheet down to size, as it grapples with the strongest inflation in 40 years. No one likes taking medicine! However, why put off the inevitable? Peter is right but what we're looking at is the end of socialism. No more stuff for the free shit army or zombie corps. Zombie companies need to be allowed to fail so their assets can go to a productive business. The miss allocation of funds used to prop up the zombies should be put to more productive use. The beasts that have just come down from the trees will go ape shit. Civil unrest will be massive. It's one reason why I think states are changing laws to allow concealed carry without a permit. They know what's coming. I'm all for kicking the can down the road. May as well enjoy it while we can. Very good points. Then add in food shortages. A country should never put the non- productive people over the the productive people. Giving 25% raises to food stamp recipients while the workers get 20% inflation on food , gas and zero wage increases? Banned often |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73137009 United States 03/18/2022 08:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One thing is for certain no one here or for that matter on any real money/economy blogs know what the F is really going to happen. You can guess and say it's going to do this or that but honestly I put about as much credence in that as I do for Pat Robertson predicting the future. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80073096 United States 03/18/2022 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From what I've seen is that alot of developers are taking $$$ from foreign places to make affordable housing. Looks like mass immigration is expected. Quoting: Agent 99 So, in say 1000 years, the entire world's population will live in the United States and nowhere else. The rest of the world will be for only tourism. |