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BREAKING - Russia May Have Shot Down US Cargo Plane

 
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An air cargo jet operating under US Transportation Command took off from Kyiv, Ukraine after delivering 200,000 pounds of Ammunition. It then violated the air space of Belarus, violated Russian Air Space, and “disappeared” from flight tracking as it entered Kazakhstan. At this time we are not certain that the plane was shot down. Nevertheless, this warns of increasing tensions. Once more, Biden threatened sanctions but did not commit US troops to defend Ukraine or NATO troops.


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 Quoting: John Dutton


Sound like a setup to me, anything is suspect with Nato and these other groups today. Ignore them.
Sorry I got a headache

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01/24/2022 02:21 AM
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200,000lbs? Good gravy... What aircraft is that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72704442


It isn't anything unless the USA dusted off an old C-5 nothing in the current US inventory can lift that much weight.

The whole story is BS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79499234


It was supposedly carrying "the first shipment" of the whole "lethal aid package", of which there is a total 200,000lbs. I think I read 90k lbs.

That said a 747-4** CAN carry 200,000 lb so it could well have been the whole shipment.

The standard 747-400 Freighter can carry 248,000 lb.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81844678


And that would be fine until you say it is carrying 200,000 lbs of ammo from hong kong?!?

Take all parts of the story in context.

So now it is down to 90,000 lbs of "random stuff".

If you start pulling threads on it the story just falls apart as it was originally told which usually means

bsflag
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violated the belarus airspace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81933392


And Russian airspace, therefore many warnings must have been given, and most likely ignored therefore shooting it down would have been justified.

An orchestrated incident to get this party started?

Collateral damage?

I have no doubt this coming war will be started intentionally judging from the rhetoric over the past 2 weeks.

Will be made to look like an accident tho
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200,000lbs? Good gravy... What aircraft is that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72704442


It isn't anything unless the USA dusted off an old C-5 nothing in the current US inventory can lift that much weight.

The whole story is BS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79499234


It was supposedly carrying "the first shipment" of the whole "lethal aid package", of which there is a total 200,000lbs. I think I read 90k lbs.

That said a 747-4** CAN carry 200,000 lb so it could well have been the whole shipment.

The standard 747-400 Freighter can carry 248,000 lb.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81844678


And that would be fine until you say it is carrying 200,000 lbs of ammo from hong kong?!?

Take all parts of the story in context.

So now it is down to 90,000 lbs of "random stuff".

If you start pulling threads on it the story just falls apart as it was originally told which usually means

bsflag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79499234


I linked the flight log a couple of posts up. It went FROM Ukraine TO Hong Kong. No one said random stuff. I'm sure it was munitions. Appreciate that you have the benefit of the entire internet available to you to research before you post. I made it foolproof by posting the log. Not sure there's a difficulty setting lower than this.
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Maybe it is another hide and seek of some big aircraft/s

Do you remember the decomposing bodies which fell in July 2014 in Donbass?

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An air cargo jet operating under US Transportation Command took off from Kyiv, Ukraine after delivering 200,000 pounds of Ammunition. It then violated the air space of Belarus, violated Russian Air Space, and “disappeared” from flight tracking as it entered Kazakhstan. At this time we are not certain that the plane was shot down. Nevertheless, this warns of increasing tensions. Once more, Biden threatened sanctions but did not commit US troops to defend Ukraine or NATO troops.


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 Quoting: John Dutton


False flag!
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Fake news
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Russia does not have the Balls to fire just one shot in anger at anything belonging to United States.

They are cowardly fuckers who pick only on the weak.

United States smeared a Russian army of over 350 + Troops all over Syria like Jam.

They could be heard over the Radio screaming and cursing Putin as USAF obliterated them.

Their Bits were sent home for secret burials.

Russia did nothing.

Turkey shot down a Russian Bomber,Russia did nothing.

Israel helped Russia shoot down its own Plane with its own AA system,Russia did nothing.

Forgive me for being skeptical about this story bwhaaaaaaaaa
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Russia does not have the Balls to fire just one shot in anger at anything belonging to United States.

They are cowardly fuckers who pick only on the weak.

United States smeared a Russian army of over 350 + Troops all over Syria like Jam.

They could be heard over the Radio screaming and cursing Putin as USAF obliterated them.

Their Bits were sent home for secret burials.

Russia did nothing.

Turkey shot down a Russian Bomber,Russia did nothing.

Israel helped Russia shoot down its own Plane with its own AA system,Russia did nothing.

Forgive me for being skeptical about this story bwhaaaaaaaaa
 Quoting: Dogsbollocks


lol u fool
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Why shoot down an empty cargo plane?

Was carrying payoff gold or cash?
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An air cargo jet operating under US Transportation Command took off from Kyiv, Ukraine after delivering 200,000 pounds of Ammunition. It then violated the air space of Belarus, violated Russian Air Space, and “disappeared” from flight tracking as it entered Kazakhstan. At this time we are not certain that the plane was shot down. Nevertheless, this warns of increasing tensions. Once more, Biden threatened sanctions but did not commit US troops to defend Ukraine or NATO troops.


[link to www.theburningplatform.com (secure)]
 Quoting: John Dutton


Did a search for this story. Turned up two references.

1. theburningplatform.com

2. This thread on godlikeproductions.com

Yep, it’s fake news.

bsflagbsflagbsflag
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Yep, it's fake.

OP busted for fake news. Again..

lol

bsflag
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Why shoot down an empty cargo plane?

Was carrying payoff gold or cash?
 Quoting: Agent 99


Don't be such a sucker.

It's fake news.
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I had from beginning a bad feeling, that “National Air Cargo” would become a hunting mark.
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bump
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Damn all you guys must have failed geography class. No way in hell this plane did what the OP is saying.
 Quoting: panamaJJJ


Right. Ukraine north to Belarus, over Russian airspace to Kazakhstan isn't even a route.

Unless there were payload stops/drops...

or remote controlled because the plane was empty, possibly without pilots.
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I had from beginning a bad feeling, that “National Air Cargo” would become a hunting mark.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77787270


Hunter Biden money exchanges with Elena Baturina.
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01/24/2022 03:34 AM
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So it went from Kiev, To Belarus then Kazakhstan chuckle ok
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It's the same thing they always do, it is a story that is getting very old. They do the setups and we are supposed to react to them. Cause a problem, start shit, offer solutions generally they send people to war, they are in trouble their solution has always be start a war sell warfare weapons, to both sides they come out on top the winners.

I hope Russia is not falling for it.
Sorry I got a headache

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Let me guess. "According to unnamed Western sources"

Sound like the Gulf of Tonkin fraud and the lie of the SS Essex, being sunk that was the excuse for our getting into WW1
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Why are we flying ammunition into Ukraine?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79236447


exactly

clappa
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81825684


To scare people into thinking war is happening.

To make a few million/billion for the weapons companies.
Pharma companies are doing very well, weapons companies want their turn now.

Maybe to actually go to war, probably not.
If they can crash global stock/crypto/real estate markets without going to war - job done.
If not, war it will be.
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The Rebirth Of Soviet Union Under A Better Version Brand Will Lead To World Peace, full article at: [link to saviorword.wordpress.com (secure)]
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shades of Lusitania...
 Quoting: Saneromeo


No, more like shades of stupid!
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Why shoot down an empty cargo plane?

Was carrying payoff gold or cash?
 Quoting: Agent 99


Flown remotely after the delivery.

Used to get the opposition’s radar systems lit up.

Data uplinked to globalhawk or satellite.

Info used to defeat radars during war.

You don’t really think those A-rabs flew the 911 planes.
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Why shoot down an empty cargo plane?

Was carrying payoff gold or cash?
 Quoting: Agent 99


Flown remotely after the delivery.

Used to get the opposition’s radar systems lit up.

Data uplinked to globalhawk or satellite.

Info used to defeat radars during war.

You don’t really think those A-rabs flew the 911 planes.
 Quoting: Phillip J. Fry


Atta, et al, had to be onboard with computers because remote hijacking from the ground wasn't possible until MH370.

Yes, info in Kazakhstan was necessary because cave tactics are being used again.
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bsflag

Yes, MOTHER RUSSIA did it
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UR violated MOTHER RUSSIA bananasexsideways
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Why shoot down an empty cargo plane?

Was carrying payoff gold or cash?
 Quoting: Agent 99


Flown remotely after the delivery.

Used to get the opposition’s radar systems lit up.

Data uplinked to globalhawk or satellite.

Info used to defeat radars during war.

You don’t really think those A-rabs flew the 911 planes.
 Quoting: Phillip J. Fry


Atta, et al, had to be onboard with computers because remote hijacking from the ground wasn't possible until MH370.

Yes, info in Kazakhstan was necessary because cave tactics are being used again.
 Quoting: Agent 99


The ability to remotely fly airliners was started in the 70’s in response to all the highjackings.

It used the transponder radio system to do it. That’s why the 911 aircraft’s transponders were turned off.
I posted all including docs back then on RMN site.
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The Rebirth Of Soviet Union Under A Better Version Brand Will Lead To World Peace, full article at: [link to saviorword.wordpress.com (secure)]
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That article war written by The Savior Messiah Mahdi Maitreya Kalki Christ Buddha
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Russia does not have the Balls to fire just one shot in anger at anything belonging to United States.

They are cowardly fuckers who pick only on the weak.

United States smeared a Russian army of over 350 + Troops all over Syria like Jam.

They could be heard over the Radio screaming and cursing Putin as USAF obliterated them.

Their Bits were sent home for secret burials.

Russia did nothing.

Turkey shot down a Russian Bomber,Russia did nothing.

Israel helped Russia shoot down its own Plane with its own AA system,Russia did nothing.

Forgive me for being skeptical about this story bwhaaaaaaaaa
 Quoting: Dogsbollocks


Wrong....Russia bombed the shyt out of Turkey in an outdoor market I think. Turkey took out 1 pilot. Russia took out 20-30 air force cadets. I learned that from here.
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shades of Lusitania...
 Quoting: Saneromeo


What happened in Lithuania?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79523846


Or in Ethiopië wasnt there a gang of mopets shooting village soccer players ?
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200,000lbs? Good gravy... What aircraft is that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72704442


It isn't anything unless the USA dusted off an old C-5 nothing in the current US inventory can lift that much weight.

The whole story is BS.
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A 747-400F can, it's my favorite aircraft of all time and I hold a ground taxi license for it and did so on a daily basis for many years at JFK and can do so tomorrow.

I'll never forget the night I sat in the FO's seat coming into Jakarta during a crazy thunderstorm 747-200 with Q engines. I had to, I'm an airman, everyone else was drunk or sick or timed out. Had worked on the plane in Hawaii and crashed out in a big seat for many hours. They woke me up, JP needs You, I had to yell commands as I saw fit at the FE (I love that post myself but was needed) and work the radios. We landed on fumes. Pan Am Pilot, the very best of the best, Hats off.

Awesome Aircraft best ever!

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