The mother of all supply chain shocks lurks in China's lockdown, January 12, 2022, -Bloomberg. | |
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(OP) User ID: 9245873 United States 01/22/2022 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So I get spare fridges washing machines and all that? Autoparts,of course. What else? Quoting: Phoenixe2 Good question. Answer: practically everything. Most of what we have in America is imported and what is not is made by heavy machinery (food is the important one), and once those machines break down the spare parts will not be available. In addition, almost every good in America is moved to its destination by trucks which will eventually break down also. Even fuel is moved by truck and once that stops flowing it's game over. Here is an excerpt from tritorch's linked article above: Our supply chain is an incredibly complex and incredibly fragile (fragility increases exponentially with complexity) global just-in-the-nick-of-time production and delivery system, and right now it is breaking down all across the world. Quoting: [link to tritorch.com (secure)] Of particular note is our industrial food production which is run by large machinery - tractors, food processing plants, and trucks - from farm to fork. When those machines break down without spare parts available, food production and distribution will shut down. ... Civilization - goes an old maxim - is only nine meals away from barbarism—Once the food deliveries stop, so does law and order. Try to envision the vast interlinking network of moving parts required to get those meals to 300 million Americans every day, and all of the things that must go right in order for that to network to function. Here is the only news story that tritorch called out as a must read regarding what is occurring (it is quite long): [link to tritorch.com] Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act. -Dietrich Bonhoeffer |
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(OP) User ID: 9245873 United States 01/22/2022 04:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No BS. We live in a big country and distribution is uneven. In DC they are trying to prevent hording already: If you're hitting the grocery store to prepare for winter weather, please just buy what you need and leave some for others! Quoting: DC Homeland Security & Emergency ManagementYou may have noticed empty shelves in some stores due to national supply chain issues, but there is no need to buy more than you normally would.You may have noticed empty shelves in some stores due to national supply chain issues, but there is no need to buy more than you normally would. [link to twitter.com (secure)] Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act. -Dietrich Bonhoeffer |
Phoenixe2
User ID: 81932365 Germany 01/22/2022 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But, If everything breaks down at some not so far away time in the future, there's no point in prepping as at some point civilization will break down anyway. I am somehow not willing to lose my life over some spare parts I have and they want. Let alone food getting scarce,then most of us are fxxed anyway, and all that with nuke plants melting in the background of this apocalyptic movie we're in.so where's the point ? Might be a point in prepping if it is for 2 months scarcity or maybe 1 year,but whatever I read, if the supply line is cut, it's pointless in the long run. So I don't know what to do -because I can't find the sense.help me out ? |
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Butters User ID: 80982588 United States 01/22/2022 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So I get spare fridges washing machines and all that? Autoparts,of course. What else? Quoting: Phoenixe2 Good question. Answer: practically everything. Most of what we have in America is imported and what is not is made by heavy machinery (food is the important one), and once those machines break down the spare parts will not be available. In addition, almost every good in America is moved to its destination by trucks which will eventually break down also. Even fuel is moved by truck and once that stops flowing it's game over. Here is an excerpt from tritorch's linked article above: Our supply chain is an incredibly complex and incredibly fragile (fragility increases exponentially with complexity) global just-in-the-nick-of-time production and delivery system, and right now it is breaking down all across the world. Quoting: [link to tritorch.com (secure)] Of particular note is our industrial food production which is run by large machinery - tractors, food processing plants, and trucks - from farm to fork. When those machines break down without spare parts available, food production and distribution will shut down. ... Civilization - goes an old maxim - is only nine meals away from barbarism—Once the food deliveries stop, so does law and order. Try to envision the vast interlinking network of moving parts required to get those meals to 300 million Americans every day, and all of the things that must go right in order for that to network to function. Here is the only news story that tritorch called out as a must read regarding what is occurring (it is quite long): [link to tritorch.com] Great article! "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you." - Fox Mulder - The X-Files "Life is what happens while you are busy making other plans." - John Lennon |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79518897 United Kingdom 01/22/2022 05:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Any one who use's sites like this and who does not already have a good stock of Water and food for 6 weeks or a lot more is a fool! and you need wepones to Keep it. make sure you have no wood piles or sheds that can be use'd to burn you out next to you home. A great deal of things can make us lose civilization for a time. solar flare, meteor strike, war, king kong! it could happen! um! |
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User ID: 81932365 Germany 01/22/2022 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Any one who use's sites like this and who does not Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79518897 already have a good stock of Water and food for 6 weeks or a lot more is a fool! and you need wepones to Keep it. make sure you have no wood piles or sheds that can be use'd to burn you out next to you home. A great deal of things can make us lose civilization for a time. solar flare, meteor strike, war, king kong! it could happen! um! Please answer my question where the point in prepping is,if things are set to only get worse and can't be resolved easily in a foreseeable amount of time.thank you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75543000 United States 01/22/2022 05:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember in the summer of 2020 when every night on the evening news they said the rest of the world licked Covid and it was just a problem for the USA now. And then they'd show video from around the world of normalcy. Remember in 2021 when they said all the supply chain issues was because of people consuming more due to pandemic and not because they weren't producing. then they showed video of kids at home learning on newly bought laptops. We're the frogs in the water that keeps getting hotter and hotter. China is winding us down. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14574783 United States 01/22/2022 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Any one who use's sites like this and who does not Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79518897 already have a good stock of Water and food for 6 weeks or a lot more is a fool! and you need wepones to Keep it. make sure you have no wood piles or sheds that can be use'd to burn you out next to you home. A great deal of things can make us lose civilization for a time. solar flare, meteor strike, war, king kong! it could happen! um! Please answer my question where the point in prepping is,if things are set to only get worse and can't be resolved easily in a foreseeable amount of time.thank you. 6 - 12 weeks for you and family would probably be ideal as any more might make you a bright red target for neighbors and hordes of crazies. After all who would want to live much longer then that anyways in a total society collapse? World will crash and burn anyways probably |
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Hadriana
User ID: 77936235 United States 01/22/2022 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 3D printers & salvaged parts could probably fill in some of the gaps. For instance, some people will put a plastic gear in where gears are likely as to fail so that they can be replaced. When I repaired my KitchenAid mixer, only had to buy a $4 gear. It could have been 3D printed. ??? I really thought at one time that 3D printers were going to change everything, but it's like no one ever really got into it. Last Edited by Hadriana on 01/22/2022 06:29 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79548689 United States 01/22/2022 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80750237 you motherfuckers keep saying this is going to happen every day! This is like fucking Q-crap. I've been noticing more and more these burner accounts coming on here and posting links to shit websites for clicks. this place is fucking turning into B4itsnews |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60104833 United States 01/22/2022 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80750237 you motherfuckers keep saying this is going to happen every day! This is like fucking Q-crap. I started prepping over 40 years ago for anticipated shortages that never happened. I had loads of stuff whose shelf life expired. When the world ran out of toilet paper in 2020, my supplies of toilet paper were long gone. Do you know that even the gun powder in ammunition expires? It attracts moisture and could explode if you try to fire it. There is also the problem with storing all those preps and the large amount of money it takes to buy all that crap. Money wasted, IMHO. |
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(OP) User ID: 9245873 United States 01/22/2022 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80750237 you motherfuckers keep saying this is going to happen every day! This is like fucking Q-crap. I've been noticing more and more these burner accounts coming on here and posting links to shit websites for clicks. this place is fucking turning into B4itsnews You're referring to me, here? If so you cannot be serious... Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act. -Dietrich Bonhoeffer |
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(OP) User ID: 9245873 United States 01/22/2022 07:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "That gosh darn China! How dare they have lockdowns? It's adding to our supply chain issues. America first!" - Some Nazi Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71214588 Yeah, it's almost as if outsourcing our manufacturing to a slave labor mecca and then relying on that totalitarian country thousands of miles away for the lion's share of our consumables was a bad idea. Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act. -Dietrich Bonhoeffer |
Cap’n Obvious
User ID: 78963999 United States 01/22/2022 07:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80750237 you motherfuckers keep saying this is going to happen every day! This is like fucking Q-crap. I started prepping over 40 years ago for anticipated shortages that never happened. I had loads of stuff whose shelf life expired. When the world ran out of toilet paper in 2020, my supplies of toilet paper were long gone. Do you know that even the gun powder in ammunition expires? It attracts moisture and could explode if you try to fire it. There is also the problem with storing all those preps and the large amount of money it takes to buy all that crap. Money wasted, IMHO. That’s not how you prep…. Have a nice day = GFY. GFY = Go Fuck Yourself. If this offends you then have a nice day. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73948186 United States 01/22/2022 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | - I have 1st hand knowledge there are already enormous problems in the industry. 30% ordered is coming in for many products. Stupid Covid protocols have reduced the workforce profoundly over many false positive tests & NOW trucker problems & China ports down. It’s a very bad scenario. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73948186 United States 01/22/2022 07:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80750237 you motherfuckers keep saying this is going to happen every day! This is like fucking Q-crap. I started prepping over 40 years ago for anticipated shortages that never happened. I had loads of stuff whose shelf life expired. When the world ran out of toilet paper in 2020, my supplies of toilet paper were long gone. Do you know that even the gun powder in ammunition expires? It attracts moisture and could explode if you try to fire it. There is also the problem with storing all those preps and the large amount of money it takes to buy all that crap. Money wasted, IMHO. — It’s all true TODAY. 10- 40 years ago? No. - |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80365094 United States 01/22/2022 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So I get spare fridges washing machines and all that? Autoparts,of course. What else? Quoting: Phoenixe2 Good question. Answer: practically everything. Most of what we have in America is imported and what is not is made by heavy machinery (food is the important one), and once those machines break down the spare parts will not be available. In addition, almost every good in America is moved to its destination by trucks which will eventually break down also. Even fuel is moved by truck and once that stops flowing it's game over. Here is an excerpt from tritorch's linked article above: Our supply chain is an incredibly complex and incredibly fragile (fragility increases exponentially with complexity) global just-in-the-nick-of-time production and delivery system, and right now it is breaking down all across the world. Quoting: [link to tritorch.com (secure)] Of particular note is our industrial food production which is run by large machinery - tractors, food processing plants, and trucks - from farm to fork. When those machines break down without spare parts available, food production and distribution will shut down. ... Civilization - goes an old maxim - is only nine meals away from barbarism—Once the food deliveries stop, so does law and order. Try to envision the vast interlinking network of moving parts required to get those meals to 300 million Americans every day, and all of the things that must go right in order for that to network to function. Here is the only news story that tritorch called out as a must read regarding what is occurring (it is quite long): [link to tritorch.com] Preppers dont need <<anything>> from China |