Any RELIGIOUS Scholars on here? Questions on MARY

Planet venus? the other guy said she was part of the milky way or something

is she hot...or not?

I have no cult and the paypal account pays nobody.. just the server costs and we have 3 servers all leased with maintenance contracts. Baloney is a full of shit liar and chaser of me for 10 or so years now.

None of us on my TEAM gets any sort of paycheck.. myself included.. all volunteers .. Donations go strickly to server costs and such.

I need to start reporting your lying fucking posts Baloney. You chased me over on the LUNATIC place too. And it was more nauseating over there because of less rules.

and as to "hot" I am a 74 year old woman engaged in what I do for 16 years now.

OP

On this thread will be protestants, satanists, haters of the church, liars, those who believe in alien gods, those who believe the words of the devil, those who believe what they have read or been told with no factual real checking of the sources etc.

So

If I may.

From a Purely Traditional Catholic Point of View as was taught by the church Doctors, and from the point of view more importantly, of the actual real true Saints, who have for a couple of thousand of years since Jesus Christ, lived that life, walked the walk, did as the apostles did, cast out demons, cured the sick the blind born with no pupils have seen, raised to life the dead etc., all whilst living a life and in a way that has proven, especially when their body does not decompose after death, and many miracles are associated with their intercession for a long time, have taught, uncovered, experienced.

Including a few of the ways in which the Blessed Virgin Mary has in proven and repeated ways proved God had given her the grace to OWN nature and the laws of physics and come with a message from him for us, to always, as all that the Blessed Virgin Mary does is take us by her maternal care to Jesus.

The Blessed Virgin Mary and Jesus her son, are the New Eve, The BVM the New ARK of the Covenant and the new Adam, to make right and make up for what Adam and Eve did originally with original sin.

Eve and Adam broke the first rules of god and sinned by eating of the fruit of the tree forbidden.

Jesus was as the Second Part of the Trinity the only begotten Son of God, God though humbled by love, of mainly repairing the offence to his father, and of humanity if we co operate, into the flesh then crucified to a tree as such. His Passion on that tree, and the Virgin Mary at the foot of the corss finally reversing what was done by Adam and Eve with that original tree in paradise, and the turning away from God's order, commands, and the beginning of Sin and speartion from God, by doing the devils promtings.

The Blessed Virgin Mary suffered greatly herself at the foot of that tree, and Jesus states during his passion to John, "behold thy Mother, Mother Behold thy Son" and this also signifies the maternal Role of the BVM for human kind to bring us back to Jesus his passion, to pray for and intercede for us, as every or most rather Mothers have a lot of way in their family.

He gave in those words all of humanity to the maternal care of the virgin Mary, and all of us to his Mother in that sense and way.

This is ridiculed by some however did not even Jesus call out "father if it is possible take this cup, if not thy will be done" HE WAS GOD IN THE FLESH he could have made that happen...but their is structure, authority power as God set things up the father, and the Family and Father Son Mother structure is part of that.

Jesus taught in many para bells about Managers and servants, this is the part of Life now most under attack by Evil, and the evil ones and those who follow him, esp so much recently with attacking traditional family structures, cuck ing men, gays, trans, PRIDE waving 6 colours of the rainbow of true 7 colours (6 the number of the beast 7 gods number) mocking the rainbow giving by God to not destroy mankind again by the flood after, in those times like now sins were so great, men married men, women women and animals, and public displays of worship to the evil one etc.

So for this reason something to understand, it is a lie not true never could happen that any Catholic or sane person who is religious would WORSHIP the virgin Mary.

All Worship is to go to God as in the commandments.

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We can though like you do with people you care for and love Honour and like, and emulate and want to be like, and hope to have from help and support, people of standing, like they say it's not what you know, but rather who you know.

I see many protestants even today on this forum saying "prayers sent up" to requests to prayers, I just did myself for someone. They ask us sinful creatures with very little merit or sway with with Jesus to do it, than yet state you pray to and ask the Virgin Mary to PRAY FOR US TO HER SON and put in a good word, and you would think you had asked Satan himself to speak to god for you...

Strange that?

Its a great confusion and I wont go into it.

I know though many of such of those I mention will have more powerful prayers, and better results than I, I do not doubt that, for they will be less sinners, more virtuous and a closer ear to god's than mine.

However.

They will say she is DEAD, well then Jesus lied when he said to the thief on the cross you will be with me in heaven today etc...

It is not scripturally correct, to assert Saints, the dead are DEAD, they are in Hell, Heaven, or being purified to "pay back every penny" of their sins, and being cleaned like gold in purification of suffering before being able to go near perfection, God Himself, as only that which is pure and spotless and paid all dues can go near him (and infact would want to, as they love him so much and are not feeling worthy to until purified, Catholics call this Purgatory it is scripturally correct, and has many many many proofs indeed).

If the dead are in hell or heaven or in a spiritual prison though not for eternity as such, who do you think may have closer contact, more influence on and the ear more of than us here on this earth in our sin, than those close to God?

Who more than his own mother, who out of all of creation every single human ever he created so pure and so perfect she was the "immaculate Conception" in her conception unlike all other humans since Adam and eve had no sin, or doorways as such or the curse or the effects of sin in any way in or on her.

Would God choose anything less than something perfect and spotless, to humble himself in the flesh in?

Would not his perfection unblemished spotless perfect clean pure body, mind divinity soul presence be polluted in a womb, or body or upbringing or guidance or protection of anything less then the most perfect woman that has ever existed?

Pretty obvious when you really think about it eh?

So That is what the Blessed Virgin Mary was and is.

Though a creature of God, a woman a human the most perfect and pure and never fell like Adam and Eve.

All the BVM cared about was God's Will her humility was and is perfect, she had and has no regard to herself, that was proven when she said behold a hand maid of the lord let it be done to me according to thy will, when Archangel Gabriel announced the Incarnation.

She is Queen because after she died, she was Assumed into heaven, unlike Jesus she did NOT ASCEND under her own power etc., God assumed by his will her Body, as has not happened except maybe once or twice (this is up for debate and between St Michael and the devil in places to) in parts of the Old testament for just 1 or two others. She was without sin, her body was assumed unlike the rest of us when final judgement will be, and She was then Crowned In heaven with many Titles

Queen of Angels

Queen of Heaven

Queen of Angels

Queen of Martyrs

Queen of Saints etc...

As is mentioned much in scripture we get "our crown of glory" on going to heaven, due to who, what, in which way, how the blessed virgin Mary is and did and her Lineage as such she is called Queen.

She is Queen as her Son Jesus Christ is King of Kings.

He had no wife, he is the Groom to the Bride, the Bride being the Church, we being it's members.

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I cannot continue to post the rest of what I was posting as it has go me a Ban and I cant log in.

I am sorry OP I had a huge amount of Info for you and another 3 posts.


Short Answer

The BVM is a virgin Died one, so was Jesus and St Jospeh.

They Married St Joseph and the Virgin mary but never consummated it.

Jesus never married and had no wives or family, his "brothers an sisters" is a bad translation from he true original root word meaning "family" ie cousins and in laws.

I had a huge amount of links and scritptural evidence and other such like things, however whenever I try and post anything on the Virgin mary with truth, or much of the catholic church I get banned.

I also had some apoligetics for the protestants on here, and to show the errors of the divisions.


May God Bless You

Thats another big idolatry hangup hangover RCC has with its pagan roots, YHVH/Bible says dont worship(that includes venerate) images, period, let alone conflate them with Elohim

Lies. Deceit. Pagan pretending to be a believer. Par for the curse with RCC

Matthew 13: 55. Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? 56. And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things? - Bible Offline

I also had documentary with witness from real pyschiatrist testimony presnt of real true not pretend Ex or c sits liberating people from real true not pretend Possesions as jesus and His apostles did, as only the true catholic church does...

And tha bsolute and total and full on fury, hatred, slander, attacking of 3 things only,

The Blessed Virgin Mary and The Catholic Church

The Holy Family being all virgins and as truly translated not in rcent protestant ones.

They go crazy, scream, knash their teeth, climb up walls vomit, beg for it to stop.

And Lie and mock and Attack.

You have just the same characteristics.

May God Bless You

Accuser

Galatians 1: 18. Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days. 19. But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother. - Bible Offline

Thanks for showing how deeply decieved and occult you RCC are. By tge way Protestant are heavily into masonry at the upper levels. So daughter like harlot church mother

Mar 6:2  And when the sabbath day was come, he began to teach in the synagogue: and many hearing him were astonished, saying, From whence hath this man these things? and what wisdom is this which is given unto him, that even such mighty works are wrought by his hands? 
Mar 6:3  Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him. 
Mar 6:4  But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house. 

False. Mary was part of GOD's plan to become Queen of Heaven, at the beginning.

Worship of the harlot queen of heaven, is anti scriptural, and taking mary and making her memory into an idolatry and lie, and i see you have not addressed the issue fully, when most other believers hear the phrase immaculate conception, they assume its about YAHshua, its not its an RCC liedoctrine claiming she was born without sin, ie why she can be worshiped, in other words a hang out for witches occultists cultist and demon lovers. Mary is not a god, she is not Elohim or Godhead.
The Lord rebuked her at least once.
She is like any other believer who has passed away, her body is dead awaiting resurection, and thats another huge lie , please share it with us, its called the assumption

Mary is Lucifer.

thisisitbe4thefire.com

No, Mary remained a virgin her entire life. She had to be, to become Queen of Heaven.

The original Greek word is used for brother in law, cousin, etc. It has multiple possible meanings. There was 1 child, Jesus and that's it.

as you cant quote a scripture to prove that, i will say that the god you worship is the devil, are you jesuit trained by any chance, lol your capicity for tautology is not apparent

The Catholic Church is the church mentioned in the Bible. I put your other lying alias on ignore, and I'll add this one.

What a complete pile of lies and garbage. Why do you hate GOD?

Rebellion against the RCC, as you call it, founded by Christ, the one true Church, is heresy against GOD. Good luck with that one.

False. This is why Mary (and Joseph) are so ahead of others. Mary remained a virgin and Joseph protected her. The Bible is correct, your "wisdom" is not.

Revelation 12-1, Mary is shown as Queen of Heaven.

How little you know.

I just did. Revelation 12-1. Now shut your trap

I forgot to mention, you mariolters, as opposed to the claim that those who deny your pagan witchcraft, gnash their teeth in rage, is that you are amongst the most murderous and wicked of all the false church , and have the blood of countless 10s of millions on your hands, tryly are you descrobed as being of that great harlot church system called mystery babylon.Lord have mercy on His, YAH rebuke the wicked spirits you represent and i suggest you repent and truly get saved , Mary will not save you, and praying to her only confirms your idolatry. repent while you still have time. Amen YAHshua HalleluYAH
PS even though many of you sub pagans in the RCC think your current black pope turned white is to liberal , actually thats because he wants to shift residence to Jerusalem, and unite that stray daughter called islam back under RCC greatwhore control

lol, that is not talking about Mary and you know it, thats why you wont quote it in full at all. Its talking about the Church and Bride of the Lord. quite wicked you are pagan witch, but claiming to be purity and holy. Truly you are of your father the devil, liars and murderers

Revelation 12: 1. And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: 6. And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. 14. And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. 17. And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. - Bible Offline

I grew up Roman Catholic. I was very devoted as a child. I saw some hypocrisy in the church from a very young age and I am ashamed to admit that although I knew the truth of Jesus and his huge sacrifice for us, so that we were able to repent of our sins and enter heaven without being condemned permanently by our sinful behaviour, but instead be granted eternal life with God in Heaven simply by accepting his sacrifice, beleiving in the truth of his unselfish love and by forgiving others just as we wish to be forgiven. I knew that but I still sinned left the church, explored every religion as well as all the gnostic versions because I didn't understand that the fallibility of preists and popes did not negate the truth of Jesus. I now am spiritually at peace but do ot attend RC church except on the odd occasion. I do attend Christian preachers from time to time but now I read the bible for myself and let no man lead me astray. I pray you pray to Jesus and the Holy spirit to teach you the truth no matter what the cost. Read the bible for yourself. Peace be with you OP

Brother, sisters and the unsaved come out of RCCbabylon, RCC will go back to her old ways, and murder any who dont obey.
There are so many paganpossessed in RCC that it will take the dragon to start the destruction of her,as scriptures say, its an amazing thing, that the devil should hate such a wicked thing, but he doesnt like upstarts and competition , from who he originally instituted. And RCC is is insane in this stradling paganism/occult/and claiming to be the Lords Church, truly a wicked harlot, and that is also why the rothschilds are the RCC bankers now for almost 200 years, Babylon the great is not just religious babylon, it is also financial babylon.