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Either way you will be singing 'And Ive got the golden ticket in my Heart'
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golden ticket like that pervy guy at the chocolate factory? Charlie something?

wtf is a golden ticket anyway?
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If you make it into the Kingdom of Heaven you have won the eternal lottery.
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sounds good...i want that.

What do I have to do..and please be specific. I am a task oriented individual and need measurables and feedback toward my goal efforts.
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1. Receive the Eucharist in a worth fashion [Baptism first, confession if you have already been baptized].
2. Pray for the Holy Spirt to illuminate your mind to give your Heart to Jesus Christ[who is in your soul].
3. Give your heart to Jesus Christ.
4. Beg for mercy from Jesus Christ in your darkest hour [Judgement Day].
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And we do salute Good St. Joseph that Humble Girl from Nazerate for having the courage to travel to that tiny town of Bethlehem, on Christmas Eve, where there was no room in the Inn, where they went to a manger inside of a cave to give birth to the Lord Jesus Christ.

And St Joseph is the Man for all Seasons, the Carpenter from Galilee, the Terror of Demons, the MiracleWORKER on behalf of Christians.

And we do salute you Good St. Joseph for having the courage to travel on that dangerous road to Egypt, with your newborn adopted son, where the miracle of St. Dismas happened.

And finally we do salute that Humble Lady from Nazerath, for having the courage to follow your Son up to the top of Mt. Calvary.
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Who is st dismal?
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The good thief, the Good Thief met the Holy Family when they were on their way to Egypt and was about to rob them, that was a very dangerous road, the miracle happened and he helped them, and Mary repaid him many years later praying for him on the top of Mt Calvary, and moved by repentance he said 'Remember me Oh Master when you enter into YOUR Kingdom' and Jesus responded with those famous words, 'TODAY you shall be with me in Paradise'.
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the good thief? Who is that?

One of the other ones crucified?
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And we do salute Good St. Joseph that Humble Girl from Nazerate for having the courage to travel to that tiny town of Bethlehem, on Christmas Eve, where there was no room in the Inn, where they went to a manger inside of a cave to give birth to the Lord Jesus Christ.

And St Joseph is the Man for all Seasons, the Carpenter from Galilee, the Terror of Demons, the MiracleWORKER on behalf of Christians.

And we do salute you Good St. Joseph for having the courage to travel on that dangerous road to Egypt, with your newborn adopted son, where the miracle of St. Dismas happened.

And finally we do salute that Humble Lady from Nazerath, for having the courage to follow your Son up to the top of Mt. Calvary.
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Who is st dismal?
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The good thief, the Good Thief met the Holy Family when they were on their way to Egypt and was about to rob them, that was a very dangerous road, the miracle happened and he helped them, and Mary repaid him many years later praying for him on the top of Mt Calvary, and moved by repentance he said 'Remember me Oh Master when you enter into YOUR Kingdom' and Jesus responded with those famous words, 'TODAY you shall be with me in Paradise'.
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the good thief? Who is that?

One of the other ones crucified?
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Yes Jesus was crucified with a thief on each side, the Good Thief and Bad Thief.
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golden ticket like that pervy guy at the chocolate factory? Charlie something?

wtf is a golden ticket anyway?
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If you make it into the Kingdom of Heaven you have won the eternal lottery.
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sounds good...i want that.

What do I have to do..and please be specific. I am a task oriented individual and need measurables and feedback toward my goal efforts.
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1. Receive the Eucharist in a worth fashion [Baptism first, confession if you have already been baptized].
2. Pray for the Holy Spirt to illuminate your mind to give your Heart to Jesus Christ[who is in your soul].
3. Give your heart to Jesus Christ.
4. Beg for mercy from Jesus Christ in your darkest hour [Judgement Day].
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i already did all that stuff when I was a punk ass kid...and a punk ass teenager.

Didnt make any noticeable difference. Was I doint it wrong or too young?

When I got a mortgage, kids and a crappy job I quit doing any of it because there was no time
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U seem sincere, but harsh. The Mother of Jesus is the mother of God. Mary is full of Grace and without sin. The Father created Mary and knowing she would be the Mother of The Son, God made her perfect. Mary was given to all humans as Mother when Jesux was dying on the cross. A great gift for us. The Hail Mary is taken from new testament. Talk to her as she will treat you like a loving Mother
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If you make it into the Kingdom of Heaven you have won the eternal lottery.
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sounds good...i want that.

What do I have to do..and please be specific. I am a task oriented individual and need measurables and feedback toward my goal efforts.
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1. Receive the Eucharist in a worth fashion [Baptism first, confession if you have already been baptized].
2. Pray for the Holy Spirt to illuminate your mind to give your Heart to Jesus Christ[who is in your soul].
3. Give your heart to Jesus Christ.
4. Beg for mercy from Jesus Christ in your darkest hour [Judgement Day].
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i already did all that stuff when I was a punk ass kid...and a punk ass teenager.

Didnt make any noticeable difference. Was I doint it wrong or too young?

When I got a mortgage, kids and a crappy job I quit doing any of it because there was no time
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Go to confession quarterly at least.
Receive the Eucharist after confession quarterly at least.
Pray every day.
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Serious questions for those who know the ins and outs of the bibble.

1) Mary in the catholic church is referred to as QUEEN. Why? They don't call Joseph, her husband KING. What is the source of the claim QUEEN?
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Her son was the King of Swej. The King's mom is called Queen.

2) It was an immaculate conception, right? Which means Joe didn't insert his male organ.
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The Immaculate Conception has nothing to do with Jesus' birth. It is the belief that Mary was conceived 'Immaculate' ... she was not born with original sin herself.

A couple is not considered married in the catholic church until they have copulated...in fact before copulation occurs a marriage can easily be dissolved. Also, if a guy can't get it up, the couple is never married in the eyes of the church.

3) If no sex, then Mary was a single mom and there was no marriage.
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Mary and Joseph were not Catholics. There was no Catholic Church then. They were married Swej style.


4) If it was a virgin birth, then Mary is still a virgin and unmarried, correct?

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The general belief is Mary was a Virgin at the time of the birth of JC. She was a holy woman born without sin. Joseph was a faithful believer who accepted his wife's story of an Angel telling her she was blessed. They were married in their culture.

I think most people accept that Joseph got to bang that pussy after that. And of course some believe that there are references to Jesus's brothers. But nobody talks much about that.
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the doctrine of immaculate conception is not refering to YAHshua/Joshua/Jesus, so correct, which is why they say she is queen of heaven , because she was supposedly born without sin, its an RCC heresy which makes the RCC a very big part of the great whore of babylon, see Revelation
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Who is st dismal?
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The good thief, the Good Thief met the Holy Family when they were on their way to Egypt and was about to rob them, that was a very dangerous road, the miracle happened and he helped them, and Mary repaid him many years later praying for him on the top of Mt Calvary, and moved by repentance he said 'Remember me Oh Master when you enter into YOUR Kingdom' and Jesus responded with those famous words, 'TODAY you shall be with me in Paradise'.
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the good thief? Who is that?

One of the other ones crucified?
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Yes Jesus was crucified with a thief on each side, the Good Thief and Bad Thief.
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what did the bad thief do? Did both of the thieves go to the low kingdom?
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The Catholic church is heretical. Mary stayed a virgin until after the birth of Jesus. After that Joseph and Mary had several children. The Mary worship comes from the pagan influences that have corrupted the roman Catholic church, it's a form of Ishtar the moon goddess worship. The Catholic bible is corrupted and changed several things. Read the gospels in the KJV or any other translation from the byzantine texts or Alexandrian texts and you will see.
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Unfortunately it's all wrong. Pretty much all of the old deities are humanized attempts at sun worship.

All with similar stories etc.

Mary is a constellation, Virgo the virgin. Also known as the house of bread which translates as Bethlehem.

Every year the sun recedes a little each day until Dec 22. For three days the sun appears dead and rises at the same degree. After 3 days the sun begins its return north seemingly resurrected from death.

All of this happens under the guise of the southern crux constellation which is a cross and the origin of crucifixion and the cross.

On Christmas morning Orions belt aligns with Sirius and also aligns with the risen sun. Orions belt is the 3 kings, wise men or magi. The sun is the gift. Sirius is the bright morning star or star of bethlehem or eastern star.

The sun rises through Virgo the vigin in the house of bread or bethlehem. This is the born of a virgin origin.

Every deity story is similar. It is all worship of the sun itself.

I dont blame them, without the sun the earth would die in 2 weeks.

Pretty much everything you think you know is not true.
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responding to AC... I was raised Roman Catholic. I was told by a priest to never read the scriptures, don't read the bible . My religion was about dogma, only believe what the "church" tells you to believe. That is when I had to run away, and join a bible study, and read the bible.
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U seem sincere, but harsh. The Mother of Jesus is the mother of God. Mary is full of Grace and without sin. The Father created Mary and knowing she would be the Mother of The Son, God made her perfect. Mary was given to all humans as Mother when Jesux was dying on the cross. A great gift for us. The Hail Mary is taken from new testament. Talk to her as she will treat you like a loving Mother
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I am sincere in my quest for knowledge and truth, but I am older now and tired of the bs and all the nonsense that is being spouted in the church..among the various denominations of christianity..and in religion in general.

If there is something REAL there, I want in.

If it is a bunch of nonsense and platitudes, i will move on and spend my energy in other areas.

I like mary..I really do. The church I have been attending that does the latin mass has her images and likenesses all over. I like women in general, and she seems like the kind of woman I would want to be with. But i started thinking about all the things they were saying about her and it didnt add up.
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responding to AC... I was raised Roman Catholic. I was told by a priest to never read the scriptures, don't read the bible . My religion was about dogma, only believe what the "church" tells you to believe. That is when I had to run away, and join a bible study, and read the bible.
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Yeah..me too. The pope thing also seemed weird.

My grandmother had this very weird picture of some pope from the 50s in her living room when I was a kid and it had this florescent light behind the picture that made this weird creepy buzzing noise when it was on.

I was like 5 years old and at night she would turn it on and turn all the other lights off and make me stare at it. Looked like satan himself and scared the fuck out of me. She told me he was the head of the church so i assumed it was a picture of god himself. I behaved because I thought he would kill me if i did anything I was told not to do.

Later when I was 7-8 and started becoming aware of the pleasures of touching myself in an impure way, I stopped for awhile cause I thought that creepy guy would be watching.

Later I decided it was worth the risk and the creepy guy started fading from my memory.

I dont know what happened to that backlit picture of the pope but wish I could find it and destroy it. I think one of my loser relatives snagged it when grandma croaked
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Unfortunately it's all wrong. Pretty much all of the old deities are humanized attempts at sun worship.

All with similar stories etc.

Mary is a constellation, Virgo the virgin. Also known as the house of bread which translates as Bethlehem.

Every year the sun recedes a little each day until Dec 22. For three days the sun appears dead and rises at the same degree. After 3 days the sun begins its return north seemingly resurrected from death.

All of this happens under the guise of the southern crux constellation which is a cross and the origin of crucifixion and the cross.

On Christmas morning Orions belt aligns with Sirius and also aligns with the risen sun. Orions belt is the 3 kings, wise men or magi. The sun is the gift. Sirius is the bright morning star or star of bethlehem or eastern star.

The sun rises through Virgo the vigin in the house of bread or bethlehem. This is the born of a virgin origin.

Every deity story is similar. It is all worship of the sun itself.

I dont blame them, without the sun the earth would die in 2 weeks.

Pretty much everything you think you know is not true.
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Thanks for muddying the water further.

Now mary isnt a virgin but a bunch of stars. Plus glp already taught me all the stars are fake and the earth is flat.
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I agree with your point of view. Since I was a young child, going to church every Sunday, I wanted in, like it was a club.
But I am much older now, and realize that God is all around us. And What Is GOD? God is us, connecting with each other.
We are connected. But it seems that there is a force in our world that is trying to keep us apart.
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Serious questions for those who know the ins and outs of the bibble.

1) Mary in the catholic church is referred to as QUEEN. Why? They don't call Joseph, her husband KING. What is the source of the claim QUEEN?

2) It was an immaculate conception, right? Which means Joe didn't insert his male organ. A couple is not considered married in the catholic church until they have copulated...in fact before copulation occurs a marriage can easily be dissolved. Also, if a guy can't get it up, the couple is never married in the eyes of the church.

3) If no sex, then Mary was a single mom and there was no marriage.

4) If it was a virgin birth, then Mary is still a virgin and unmarried, correct?

I could go on and on, but let's start wit that.

Thanks
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She's Queen of Heaven, in the same way Solomon's Mother was Queen Mother. We sometimes don't consider the reality of an actual monarchy in heaven, because we have so few actual kingdoms on earth. But every family is in fact a small kingdom that resembles the Holy Trinity. The Father, The Mother, The Son. The Mother is spouse of the Holy Spirit (Virgin Mary). This does not mean Saint Joseph is demoted, he is still father of Jesus, and he is a defender of the Church. But Jesus, upon being found in the Temple reveals to Mary and Joseph a bit of the heavenly reality "Did you not know I must be about my Father's business?" He refers to his True Father in Heaven.

When Jesus received his Throne, he crowned his Mother Queen of Heaven. This was after he gave his Mother to the beloved disciple from the cross. "son behold thy mother, mother behold thy son." So there are two things happening here. She is Mother of the Church, she is Queen of Heaven.

Her perpetual virginity is recalled by the Ark of the Covenant. The Ark which David danced in front of in procession and held the Ten Commandments. This Ark is immensely powerful, because it contains the word of God. And is designed precisely for the purpose of carrying God. Virgin birth, purity, absolute spotlessness is the only way the Man Child could enter into the world. This also has a mystical component, no sin can enter. Sin is passed on from the original sin of our first parents Adam and Eve. Mary being conceived Immaculately, was preserved and set aside for the purpose of bringing God into the world, but also to bring us to God.

Now we get into the spiritual warfare component. Have you ever played Chess? The Queen can move freely in any direction. That is Grace. In Genesis God gives the enemy a vision of the future in which he is crushed by her heel. This to a fallen angel is absolutely humiliating. They do not like creation, but they absolutely do not like the frailty and weakness of human creatures. This was the reason for their fall, they did not want to serve a human being. The Holy Queen, Blessed Virgin Mary is so far above the highest saint of the Church, and above the hierarchy of angels, in terms of power. (Think back to the crowning, this mystery is said in the Holy Rosary) She is not above her son. But she was given an authority over the enemy by her son. This is why she is honored in the Church...

But also remember the cross. She was given to us as a Mother. And that in itself is even more powerful than a Queen.

There are many mysteries unfolding simultaneously and it can be difficult to understand in one go... But her proximity to the Holy Trinity is what makes this possible. The Trinity can be a very difficult reality to comprehend, so to is the title Queen of Heaven. We're blessed to have been given to us The Holy Rosary, which can unite our souls to God and Our Lord can communicate His love for us, for the world and lift our souls to ponder the heavenly mysteries.

I hope this helps. I had to write this from the top of my head I tried to include all the major points.

God bless
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If you watched the movie Avatar, When Dr Grace looked at Jake Scully, and said...."They are all connected, this is so cool".

We are all connected to. We on our planet, just lost our way, and we need it back.
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I made a mistake in the previous post. Jesus crowns his Mother after she enters into heaven. We say she was assumed into heaven. The east calls it the dormition I believe...
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Read the Infancy Gospels. These works are non-Canonical works, but writings from the first and second century. This will answer some of your questions.
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Serious questions for those who know the ins and outs of the bibble.

1) Mary in the catholic church is referred to as QUEEN. Why? They don't call Joseph, her husband KING. What is the source of the claim QUEEN?

She is an idol to them and they believe she's without sin but this scripture proves otherwise.


For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed. — Luke 1:48 KJV

The cult of catholicism is simply attempting to nullify the work of the Lord Jesus Christ to die and rise again for the sins of all who accept His gift of salvation wholeheartedly through faith and repentance in Him alone by worshipping anything other than He who deserves all glory and honor and praise.


2) It was an immaculate conception, right? Which means Joe didn't insert his male organ. A couple is not considered married in the catholic church until they have copulated...in fact before copulation occurs a marriage can easily be dissolved. Also, if a guy can't get it up, the couple is never married in the eyes of the church.

3) If no sex, then Mary was a single mom and there was no marriage.

See below

4) If it was a virgin birth, then Mary is still a virgin and unmarried, correct?

To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary. — Luke 1:27 KJV

Eventually they were married and had children together

But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother. — Galatians 1:19 KJV


I could go on and on, but let's start wit that.

Thanks
You're welcome 😊
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Serious questions for those who know the ins and outs of the bibble.

1) Mary in the catholic church is referred to as QUEEN. Why? They don't call Joseph, her husband KING. What is the source of the claim QUEEN?

She is an idol to them and they believe she's without sin but this scripture proves otherwise.


For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed. — Luke 1:48 KJV

The cult of catholicism is simply attempting to nullify the work of the Lord Jesus Christ to die and rise again for the sins of all who accept His gift of salvation wholeheartedly through faith and repentance in Him alone by worshipping anything other than He who deserves all glory and honor and praise.


2) It was an immaculate conception, right? Which means Joe didn't insert his male organ. A couple is not considered married in the catholic church until they have copulated...in fact before copulation occurs a marriage can easily be dissolved. Also, if a guy can't get it up, the couple is never married in the eyes of the church.

3) If no sex, then Mary was a single mom and there was no marriage.

See below

4) If it was a virgin birth, then Mary is still a virgin and unmarried, correct?

To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary. — Luke 1:27 KJV

Eventually they were married and had children together

But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother. — Galatians 1:19 KJV


I could go on and on, but let's start wit that.

Thanks
You're welcome 😊
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Serious questions for those who know the ins and outs of the bibble.

1) Mary in the catholic church is referred to as QUEEN. Why? They don't call Joseph, her husband KING. What is the source of the claim QUEEN?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81918683


Her son was the King of Swej. The King's mom is called Queen.

2) It was an immaculate conception, right? Which means Joe didn't insert his male organ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81918683


The Immaculate Conception has nothing to do with Jesus' birth. It is the belief that Mary was conceived 'Immaculate' ... she was not born with original sin herself.

A couple is not considered married in the catholic church until they have copulated...in fact before copulation occurs a marriage can easily be dissolved. Also, if a guy can't get it up, the couple is never married in the eyes of the church.

3) If no sex, then Mary was a single mom and there was no marriage.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81918683


Mary and Joseph were not Catholics. There was no Catholic Church then. They were married Swej style.


4) If it was a virgin birth, then Mary is still a virgin and unmarried, correct?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81918683


The general belief is Mary was a Virgin at the time of the birth of JC. She was a holy woman born without sin. Joseph was a faithful believer who accepted his wife's story of an Angel telling her she was blessed. They were married in their culture.

I think most people accept that Joseph got to bang that pussy after that. And of course some believe that there are references to Jesus's brothers. But nobody talks much about that.
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the doctrine of immaculate conception is not refering to YAHshua/Joshua/Jesus, so correct, which is why they say she is queen of heaven , because she was supposedly born without sin, its an RCC heresy which makes the RCC a very big part of the great whore of babylon, see Revelation
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Mary is queen of the solar system.. not heaven.. resident on Venus with other Kumaras.... Her mate... is Sanat Kumara.

Mary is a perfected person from Paradise... and thus without sin..
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Unfortunately it's all wrong. Pretty much all of the old deities are humanized attempts at sun worship.

All with similar stories etc.

Mary is a constellation, Virgo the virgin. Also known as the house of bread which translates as Bethlehem.

Every year the sun recedes a little each day until Dec 22. For three days the sun appears dead and rises at the same degree. After 3 days the sun begins its return north seemingly resurrected from death.

All of this happens under the guise of the southern crux constellation which is a cross and the origin of crucifixion and the cross.

On Christmas morning Orions belt aligns with Sirius and also aligns with the risen sun. Orions belt is the 3 kings, wise men or magi. The sun is the gift. Sirius is the bright morning star or star of bethlehem or eastern star.

The sun rises through Virgo the vigin in the house of bread or bethlehem. This is the born of a virgin origin.

Every deity story is similar. It is all worship of the sun itself.

I dont blame them, without the sun the earth would die in 2 weeks.

Pretty much everything you think you know is not true.
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The Treatise of Faith and Science

The false dichotomy of science or God comes about because scientific atheists have a false idea of God. If you think the moon is a god, you will not study it because you might upset the god. And the ancient gods are the gods of the gaps, for lightning is a god, until reason helps us understand it. The ancient gods push out reason and once reason enters the ancient gods disappear. But the God that was atop Mt Sinai and Mt Carmel and Mt Moriah is not a material god, and scientific atheists say that Christians deny the ancient gods and they simply take it one step further, but the ancient gods are all material gods, and if you define God as a non explanation waiting on science to come along then you have to choose between science or God.

The more we understand art the more we admire a Rembrandt. And the more we understand engineering the more we admire Henry Ford. And the material God the scientific atheists do not believe in Christians do not believe in either! And it is said if God created the universe, you must ask who created God. And if you believe the universe created you, well who created your creator? Well Christians do not believe in a created God, so the correct questions are not even being asked.

Why is the water boiling? Do you have heat energy from a gas flame being conducted and agitating the water molecules or is it boiling because someone wants to boil water? Both are correct! A human being can be reduced to chemicals, but they are more than just chemicals. God no more competes with science than Henry Ford competes with he laws of internal combustion. We have multi level explanations, it is the personal/agent explanation that is usually the more important, as people have been boiling water longer than we understood the science behind it.

And the law of gravity does not explain gravity. The law of gravity is a mathematical description of gravity. We know it exists, we know about it, but the great scientists will admit, we do not know what it is. The great error of modernism is that the laws of nature explain everything. Are not literature and language needed to explain things? And if you believe everything is material, you are actively saying there is no good or evil. Einstein saw it and said, 'you can speak of the ethics of science, but you cannot speak of the science of ethics'. The forces of the universe cannot explain what you ought to do, or ought not to do. You cannot get from material to morality without smuggling it in. And whenever a law of morality comes up, it asks "who says so", but once you remove God, where do you come up with morality? If you try to get morality from biology, you get too many competing moralities and the result is moral confusion with no brakes.

Now we are told the universe is created out of nothing and because there is a law gravity the universe can and create the universe out of nothing, but the very last thing nothing is, is nothing, and it is a flat contradiction, the law of gravity (like mathematics) is an abstract idea if there is no gravity. The laws of motion will never move a billiard ball, only describe their movement. Even better yet, when I say x creates y I am presupposing x, but if I say x creates x, it means nonsense remains nonsense even if "the most brilliant" scientist writes it. The only way to avoid God in the context of nothing is foolishness. The Christians say the universe comes from nothing physical. It comes from a God who is not physical. Materialism says there is only material, so therefore it must be primary, but the Holy Bible says there is both spiritual and material, and that the spiritual is primary over material.

To say science is the only avenue to truth is not a statement of science! Yet scientific atheists insist that God is inconsistent with science and reason. Science cannot reason its way to talk about anything beyond the universe, therefore science has no business talking about it positively or negatively. Isaac Newton, arguably the brightest scientist that ever lived was a believer in God and wrote in his famous book, the Principia Mathematica that he hoped that the law of gravity would help persuade the thinking people to believe in God, and the law of gravity explains so perfectly a theological idea demonstrated by the parable of the Good Samaritan. whereas the man beaten by robbers (Adam had his grace stolen by Devils) was walking towards Jericho (symbolizing Hell), and there was no other road between Jerusalem (Heaven) and Jericho (Hell), and there was no other way to go but down, until the Good Samaritan came along, who took him to an Inn.

And when a fire was lite atop the Gondor, one outpost after another lit their fire in response, until hundreds of miles away to the north, Rohan received the signal. Material (wood and straw and flame) was used as a delivery method. And when the menu was read, which said Roasted Duck, the ink and shapes and paper were used as a delivery method, but the material itself could not convey the idea of Roasted Duck or request help from Rohan, information was needed to understand the material, and that information needed is immaterial. Can you reduce mind to matter when information is immaterial and when a material universe cannot account for information? And must a mind be needed once language or literature become involved or to understand or arrange a 4.5 billion letter word called DNA?

It is so obvious that science is limited because it cannot answer the basic questions of child, where do I come from? Where am I going and what is the meaning of life? We need literature and language to explain that. And when it was discovered that the universe had to be delicately balanced and its properties had to be accurate to a level unimaginable for carbon based life so much so that an explanation is demanded we arrive at another false dichotomy between the God explanation or the multiverse explanation. God and science do not compete, they compliment, as so brilliantly demonstrated by the Law of Gravity. "I can calculate the motion of heavenly bodies, but not the madness of people" Isaac Newton
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The Treatise of the Holy Mountain

The Holy Bible calls our God El Shaddai, and El Shaddai means means the God of the Mountain. For our God was atop Mount Moriah and Mount Sinai and Mount Carmel and Mount Tabor and Mount Olivet and Mount Calvary and Yes, our God is atop the Holy Mountain, which is the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, which is the Inn where the Good Samaritan brought the man beaten by robbers, which is tasked with assisting in gathering all those men of goodwill into the Kingdom of Heaven. This is the view from Earth.

Truly those that go to the Upper Kingdom after their personal judgement are more alive than ever for those souls are immortal and cannot die, and in fact those souls have Jesus Christ living as King of their soul, for through the miracle of the Holy Ghost simple bread and wine is turned into the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ, and that Bread of Life is literally inside them, and if they went to the Upper Kingdom, that Good Shepherd encompasses their souls completely and entirely, so praying to a soul in the Upper Kingdom is in a practical sense no different than praying to Jesus Christ himself, as he has enveloped their soul entirely and they truly and literally have that Morning Star as King of their hopes, dreams, creativity, or in other words, their soul, which is a supernatural land where Christ lives, and Jesus even said in the Gospel of John that people would come after him that would do greater miracles than he did.

Every Eucharistic Miracle that has been tested by science and the shroud of Turin all come back as AB blood, and the unique thing about AB blood is it is a universal recipient, the only blood type that is, and when prominent scientists from New York based Columbia University tested a Eucharistic Miracle, it came back as blood from an alive heart under duress. Why did the disciples stop following in John Chapter 6? And why did Jesus say to Paul "why do you persecute me"? Because mystically speaking that Man of Sorrows, that Son of the Mystical City, that Fisher of Men is on the cross, or in prison, or in a dark garden until the end of time via the concept of being present throughout time in a moment, and Jesus Christ is alive in the Eucharist, and many Catholics and Orthodox literally have that Nazarene, that Son of the Carpenter, that Light of the World in their soul, and this is the pinnacle of the mystery of the Faith, and many disciples stopped following in John Chapter 6 because they could not accept this.

Therefore, and this is why, the Catholic Church is properly called the same thing and equal to the Mystical Body of Christ. And all the prayers ascend through the Mystical Body of Christ, and all the miracles descend through the Mystical Body of Christ.
The Mystical Body of Christ has 4 parts, the Soul (Holy Ghost), the invisible Mind (Jesus Christ), the visible Head (Bishop of Rome) and the Body. And all those believers in the Eucharist (Jesus), who have visibly entered (and stayed) through Baptism within a Church that has been determined to have a valid Eucharist by the Governing Body (that is in union with the Bishop of Rome), are members of the Body of the Mystical Body of Christ, and that Body is tasked with, but not limited to, serving the poor, healing the sick, protecting the Catholic Faith on Earth and assisting in gathering all those men of goodwill into the Kingdom of Heaven. This is the view from above.

To remain in the Mystical Body of Christ and transition through death and into the Kingdom of Heaven, Jesus Christ has entered the soul, essentially via Baptism by water, explicitly via the Eucharist, and the mind(illumined by the Holy Spirit) has given its heart to Jesus Christ, which crowns and delivers the King who now reigns Master and Commander of that soul, and that soul is a supernatural land where Christ lives, and that soul lives in unison with the finality of the Glorified Body of Christ, all by the Father drawing us through uncreated grace, and in the meanwhile, in the fallen world that we are, we are given the view from Earth of a Holy Mountain with God at the summit.

Jesus Christ, the hypostatic union, who is full of power, as the Rightful King and High Priest has authority and jurisdiction outside time, and inside time, and everywhere in between, and therefore can administer his Body and Blood, or Baptism, with no restrictions or limitations, so potentially one could become a member of the Mystical Body of Christ during the moment before the soul leaves the body, but that would be outside the authority and jurisdiction of the Governing Body of the Mystical Body of Christ which is put in place on Earth to protect the Catholic Faith.

The Good Thief made an Act of Faith, acknowledging that Jesus had a Kingdom, acknowledging that Jesus was the King of that Kingdom (by use of the word 'your'), he then was baptized by that High Priest from the water that came from the puncture under the rib of Jesus, all with a repentant heart. The Bad Thief wanted scientific observable proof (save yourself), and wanted to avoid death (and save us), all without a repentant heart. The Good Thief was saved and the Bad Thief perished, which brings to light the answer to the so many unanswered questions about the designs of God, which could be to optimize the quality of the future inhabitants of the Kingdom of Heaven.

For the mind gives the heart to the King, and all explicit truth will have to be accepted before entering into the Kingdom of Heaven, and the soul must still have Jesus Christ, who is The Way and The Truth and The Life as the King of their soul after all truth is revealed, and by the use of the wording "every human creature" in Unam Sanctam, this is self evident, we are subject to all truth, regardless if it is explicit or not, because by the time you arrive at your personal judgement, all truth will be explicit, so we humbly pray, that Jesus Christ, the Cornerstone, the True Vine and the Seeker of Souls may be Master and Commander of our hopes and dreams, and that we ask so that we may receive, and seek so that we may find, and we sin no more, and that we accept all explicit truth, and accept all truth that will become explicit, and that the Father may draw us, through uncreated grace, to keep climbing the Holy Mountain of God.
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born with original sin herself.


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Mary is queen of the solar system.. not heaven.. resident on Venus with other Kumaras.... Her mate... is Sanat Kumara.

Mary is a perfect person from Paradise... and thus without sin..

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NOPE. kumaras and sanat kumara is phoenix journals crap. we know that the journals are channeled, new-age, BS. Mary is not resident on planet venus with other kumaras....that is just stupid.

and no mary isnt a perfect person from baradise, just as all is one is not a perfect person from paradise.......her shit still stinks just like everyone elses.

Mary referred to Jesus as her saviour too.

Luke 1:46-47 And Mary said: “My soul glorifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior
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born with original sin herself.

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Mary is queen of the solar system.. not heaven.. resident on Venus with other Kumaras.... Her mate... is Sanat Kumara.

Mary is a perfect person from Paradise... and thus without sin..

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NOPE. kumaras and sanat kumara is phoenix journals crap. we know that the journals are channeled, new-age, BS. Mary is not resident on planet venus with other kumaras....that is just stupid.

and no mary isnt a perfect person from baradise, just as all is one is not a perfect person from paradise.......her shit still stinks just like everyone elses.

Mary referred to Jesus as her saviour too.

Luke 1:46-47 And Mary said: “My soul glorifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior
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Baloney.. stop embarassing yourself... they have been covered since long before the PJ's... LONG BEFORE and you haven't read the PJs anyway...
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I apologize, it was never meant to muddy the waters. The bible along with other books of religion have a hidden meaning. Call it the narrow path. Call it having eyes to see.

The Bible says

Don't you know you are the sons and daughters of God?

Greater is He that is in me than He that is in this world.

Noone knows the Father except the son and noone knows the son except the Father.

If God left this world every heart would cease to beat.

God is in you... waiting to be resurrected. This is why we are failing. As long as you seek God outside of you, you will never find Him. God is in you, just as Jacob said he walked with God in a place called piniel, this is your pineal gland, your minds eye, it is what you see through when you break the veil of dreams. This is why Paul said he used to think of Christ as flesh and blood but will do so no longer.

Why do we call the savior Jesus when His name was Joseph? It's never been about the name but the meaning of it. Christ is the title. There isn't an anti Jesus. The person crucified that Christians say was Christ was a man named Jesus Barrabas, look it up.

Israel isn't about a certain people, it is all mankind, or directly translated those who wrestle or triumph with God. The 12 tribes are not a certain nation but the 12 signs in the stars or zodiak.

Passover is actually about the sun passing over the equator. Pagans call it Ishtar and Christians mistakenly call it Easter.

Its about life returning, the season of plenty. Why you you think Christ told the disciples He would return before the fig tree bore fruit?

Why did the catholic church ransack Alexandria and steal more than half the library's contents and hide it from the world?

Nothing is what you think it is.

God has no gender, for God to be here in this plane of existence it has to be in mankind. How do you think God knows your every thought? Christ said I will not condemn you, man will not condemn you, only you can condemn yourself.

What if the 7 seals are the 7 power centers in the meridians of the body? Who is worthy to break the seals? I will tell you. Those who are baptized in the living waters and reborn from above. The bible says these things must happen if you are to enter the kingdom.

Being born from above IS the rapture. We will be called one by one. If you have the eyes to see and ears to hear you will not be deceived.
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NOPE. kumaras and sanat kumara is phoenix journals crap. we know that the journals are channeled, new-age, BS. Mary is not resident on planet venus with other kumaras....that is just stupid.

and no mary isnt a perfect person from baradise, just as all is one is not a perfect person from paradise.......her shit still stinks just like everyone elses.

Mary referred to Jesus as her saviour too.

Luke 1:46-47 And Mary said: “My soul glorifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior
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Baloney.. stop embarassing yourself... they have been covered since long before the PJ's... LONG BEFORE and you haven't read the PJs anyway...
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the only one emabarrassing themselves here is you candace. sanat kumara is from your new-age crap whether it be the urantia book, the phoenix journals, or something else.

Mary didnt condider herself perfect or sinless, she referred to Jesus as her saviour just as all of us sinners do.

you personally are not perect nor from paradise. regardless of high a pedestal you put yourself on, the fact remains that your shit still stinks just like everyone elses.

readers must understand and remember that all is one posts lies and deceptions for money....her cult has paypal.
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dont you get it yet.

Its a fictional story. It was plagiarized from texts which predate it by at least 1500 years possibly 3000 years.

Jesus never existed and most likely mary never existed either.

sorry to burst your bubble it is what it is.
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