Despite Supreme Court Ruling, Some Employers Will Still Require Vaccinations | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81627788 United States 01/14/2022 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So those companies can be torn apart in court now. I'd say it's over but get ready for a world of hard to get products. Think of a grocery store from the last year of jimmy Carter. Less a bit here and there. Quoting: Nickel sized hail No they won't. The Supreme Court ruling only stopped the Federal Government from mandating the vaccine, not private businesses. Some of you don't seem to understand that's a big difference. No they understand, these Qtard shills get paid to steer the conversation away from the obvious, to claim wins that never happened, as a political tactic to steer the conversation away from how Trump's Supreme Court pick, sold out healthcare workers |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81107803 United States 01/14/2022 09:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81107803 Yes you are an idiot. I never said stupid corps will no longer force their employees to get the poison. They will be open to massive liability and will be sued into oblivion plain and simple. Are you a lawyer? Do you know what you’re talking about? No and no. Companies are well within their rights to mandate a jab. The ruling just says the government can’t mandate it as part of an OSHA regulation, and even then, the ruling only temporarily enjoins enforcement of the rule while the case continues to make its way through the courts. Please, do go on about companies getting “sued into oblivion” lol. Watch and learn corporate idiot. What law are they going to be suing under? Why the same law you corporate assholes used to force poison on employees ofc. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81107803 United States 01/14/2022 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I guess those employers want to get sued and lose all their money. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79667372 YOU CANNOT MAKE PEOPLE DO EXPERIMENTAL DRUGS. yeah stupid fuck that's going to happen You fuckers are going to find the end of a rope if you keep it up. I personally can't wait to see these assholes running for their miserable lives for fear of being hunted down, dragged out and beat to death or hung from the nearest lamp post. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6176722 United States 01/14/2022 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Biden administration’s nationwide Covid-19 vaccine-or-testing mandate for large private employers is dead, following the 6-3 Supreme Court opinion Thursday. But for many companies and their workers, a jab will still be a job requirement. Quoting: 442 [link to www.barrons.com (secure)] asswipes Yes but now you can leave and go somewhere where there are no mandates. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79238296 United States 01/14/2022 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's better to have an option between jobs that require vs. jobs that don't the alternative was every job with 100 or more people would require it. And then the next bill would have required jobs with less than 100 to require it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81039682 Damn straight - the next EO by Brandon would have set that up if the OSHA mandate had been allowed to go forward. Now, any employee who took the shot prior to the SC ruling can sue the shit out of their employer if they developed any adverse reactions. I hope some of these companies get sued into oblivion! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81039682 United States 01/14/2022 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81039682 The ruling only prevented the Federal Government from mandating the vaccine, not private business. Yet you call me an idiot and don't even understand the ruling and are trying to insult someone that actually knows what's going on. Yes you are an idiot. I never said stupid corps will no longer force their employees to get the poison. They will be open to massive liability and will be sued into oblivion plain and simple. Are you a lawyer? Do you know what you’re talking about? No and no. Companies are well within their rights to mandate a jab. The ruling just says the government can’t mandate it as part of an OSHA regulation, and even then, the ruling only temporarily enjoins enforcement of the rule while the case continues to make its way through the courts. Please, do go on about companies getting “sued into oblivion” lol. Watch and learn corporate idiot. You just make yourself look dumber with each post. And I'm not even vaccinated, but I'm against making stuff up like you and others are trying to do. I would love it if private businesses couldn't mandate the vaccine, but they can and already have, moran. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78914227 01/14/2022 09:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “FDA must ensure that recipients of the vaccine under an EUA are informed… of the known and potential benefits (sic) and risks, the extent to which the benefits and risks are unknown, that they have the option to accept or refuse the vaccine, and of any available alternatives…” “21 U.S.C. § 360bbb-3(e)(1)(A)(ii) Appropriate conditions designed to ensure that individuals to whom the product is administered are informed— that the Secretary has authorized the emergency use of the product; of the significant known and potential benefits and risks of such use, and of the extent to which such benefits and risks are unknown; and of the option to accept or refuse administration of the product, of the consequences, if any, of refusing administration of the product, and of the alternatives to the product that are available and of their benefits and risks.” |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80928359 United States 01/14/2022 09:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: laughnow12 Yeah but if terminated due to no vax now with SCOTUS ruling, companies can be sued, class action style. Wrong You're an idiot. Watch and learn. Yeah, dude is an idiot. They will get sued because the company is liable for PHYSICAL harm. Not because of some civil rights violation. You guys clearly don’t work at in this field at all, so I’ll just say: good luck finding an attorney to represent you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78814986 United States 01/14/2022 09:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Biden administration’s nationwide Covid-19 vaccine-or-testing mandate for large private employers is dead, following the 6-3 Supreme Court opinion Thursday. But for many companies and their workers, a jab will still be a job requirement. Quoting: 442 [link to www.barrons.com (secure)] asswipes Many companies will not mandate. They were only going to mandate because the federal government was going to fine them heavily per employee. Now with that in the trash where it belongs, reality will show through. Many companies know that the work force is too critical and they would lose much revenue without employees. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 81107803 United States 01/14/2022 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81107803 Yes you are an idiot. I never said stupid corps will no longer force their employees to get the poison. They will be open to massive liability and will be sued into oblivion plain and simple. Are you a lawyer? Do you know what you’re talking about? No and no. Companies are well within their rights to mandate a jab. The ruling just says the government can’t mandate it as part of an OSHA regulation, and even then, the ruling only temporarily enjoins enforcement of the rule while the case continues to make its way through the courts. Please, do go on about companies getting “sued into oblivion” lol. Watch and learn corporate idiot. You just make yourself look dumber with each post. And I'm not even vaccinated, but I'm against making stuff up like you and others are trying to do. I would love it if private businesses couldn't mandate the vaccine, but they can and already have, moran. WOW you are dim. I NEVER said they can not mandate them. Sheesh you are one stupid bastard. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78914227 01/14/2022 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “FDA must ensure that recipients of the vaccine under an EUA are informed… of the known and potential benefits (sic) and risks, the extent to which the benefits and risks are unknown, that they have the option to accept or refuse the vaccine, and of any available alternatives…” Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78914227 “21 U.S.C. § 360bbb-3(e)(1)(A)(ii) Appropriate conditions designed to ensure that individuals to whom the product is administered are informed— that the Secretary has authorized the emergency use of the product; of the significant known and potential benefits and risks of such use, and of the extent to which such benefits and risks are unknown; and of the option to accept or refuse administration of the product, of the consequences, if any, of refusing administration of the product, and of the alternatives to the product that are available and of their benefits and risks.” Technically any company imposing a mandate is violating federal law… Technically a government trying to impose a mandate is violating federal law… Did someone say tyranny? Hahaha It’s coming… Pick a side, suns going down… |
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User ID: 74320358 United States 01/14/2022 09:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Get the real experts in court, prove the vaccine is a risk, prove it doesn't stop transmission, and no company will ever be able to mandate that shit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79780865 Thinking the same…these asshole smug “lefty” corporations will continue to try, puff out their chests but as soon as the first one is sued and lose they will ALL back down Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80928359 United States 01/14/2022 09:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's better to have an option between jobs that require vs. jobs that don't the alternative was every job with 100 or more people would require it. And then the next bill would have required jobs with less than 100 to require it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81039682 Damn straight - the next EO by Brandon would have set that up if the OSHA mandate had been allowed to go forward. Now, any employee who took the shot prior to the SC ruling can sue the shit out of their employer if they developed any adverse reactions. I hope some of these companies get sued into oblivion! Where are you people getting this from? This is terrible legal advice lol. You’re just making shit up. If anyone sues an employer for having a mandate, the suit is 100% guaranteed to get tossed out on a 12(b) motion to dismiss here in the US. Not that anyone here knows what that is, but suffice it to say, the suit won’t survive long. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81039682 United States 01/14/2022 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80928359 Are you a lawyer? Do you know what you’re talking about? No and no. Companies are well within their rights to mandate a jab. The ruling just says the government can’t mandate it as part of an OSHA regulation, and even then, the ruling only temporarily enjoins enforcement of the rule while the case continues to make its way through the courts. Please, do go on about companies getting “sued into oblivion” lol. Watch and learn corporate idiot. You just make yourself look dumber with each post. And I'm not even vaccinated, but I'm against making stuff up like you and others are trying to do. I would love it if private businesses couldn't mandate the vaccine, but they can and already have, moran. WOW you are dim. I NEVER said they can not mandate them. Sheesh you are one stupid bastard. But you said they suddenly will be open to liability and nothing has changed when it comes to that at all, so you're just wrong and doubling down and doubling down and then tripling down on stupid. Keep going. |
RestoreTheAnger
User ID: 74320358 United States 01/14/2022 09:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's better to have an option between jobs that require vs. jobs that don't the alternative was every job with 100 or more people would require it. And then the next bill would have required jobs with less than 100 to require it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81039682 Damn straight - the next EO by Brandon would have set that up if the OSHA mandate had been allowed to go forward. Now, any employee who took the shot prior to the SC ruling can sue the shit out of their employer if they developed any adverse reactions. I hope some of these companies get sued into oblivion! Where are you people getting this from? This is terrible legal advice lol. You’re just making shit up. If anyone sues an employer for having a mandate, the suit is 100% guaranteed to get tossed out on a 12(b) motion to dismiss here in the US. Not that anyone here knows what that is, but suffice it to say, the suit won’t survive long. I don’t totally disagree BUT that was not a requirement prior to employment. There will be merit on that fact. If they did a no vax no hire that’s different Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80928359 United States 01/14/2022 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “FDA must ensure that recipients of the vaccine under an EUA are informed… of the known and potential benefits (sic) and risks, the extent to which the benefits and risks are unknown, that they have the option to accept or refuse the vaccine, and of any available alternatives…” Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78914227 “21 U.S.C. § 360bbb-3(e)(1)(A)(ii) Appropriate conditions designed to ensure that individuals to whom the product is administered are informed— that the Secretary has authorized the emergency use of the product; of the significant known and potential benefits and risks of such use, and of the extent to which such benefits and risks are unknown; and of the option to accept or refuse administration of the product, of the consequences, if any, of refusing administration of the product, and of the alternatives to the product that are available and of their benefits and risks.” First: this statute does not contain a citizen suit provision which allows individuals to sue for alleged violations. Second: people have the option to accept or refuse the vaccine under any circumstances. They’re free not to get vaxxed, and the company is free to part ways with its employee. Simple enough. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81107803 United States 01/14/2022 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You just make yourself look dumber with each post. And I'm not even vaccinated, but I'm against making stuff up like you and others are trying to do. I would love it if private businesses couldn't mandate the vaccine, but they can and already have, moran. WOW you are dim. I NEVER said they can not mandate them. Sheesh you are one stupid bastard. But you said they suddenly will be open to liability and nothing has changed when it comes to that at all, so you're just wrong and doubling down and doubling down and then tripling down on stupid. Keep going. You corporate assholes no longer have daddy government that you lobbied to back you up on this issue. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80928359 United States 01/14/2022 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's better to have an option between jobs that require vs. jobs that don't the alternative was every job with 100 or more people would require it. And then the next bill would have required jobs with less than 100 to require it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81039682 Damn straight - the next EO by Brandon would have set that up if the OSHA mandate had been allowed to go forward. Now, any employee who took the shot prior to the SC ruling can sue the shit out of their employer if they developed any adverse reactions. I hope some of these companies get sued into oblivion! Where are you people getting this from? This is terrible legal advice lol. You’re just making shit up. If anyone sues an employer for having a mandate, the suit is 100% guaranteed to get tossed out on a 12(b) motion to dismiss here in the US. Not that anyone here knows what that is, but suffice it to say, the suit won’t survive long. I don’t totally disagree BUT that was not a requirement prior to employment. There will be merit on that fact. If they did a no vax no hire that’s different My guess is there’s nothing stopping them from mandating the vaxx midway through employment. I can’t think of any legal reason preventing them from doing that. |
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User ID: 81230252 United States 01/14/2022 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I guess those employers want to get sued and lose all their money. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79667372 YOU CANNOT MAKE PEOPLE DO EXPERIMENTAL DRUGS. Articles and "news" from liberal media shall now be known as catnip for libtards. Truth is schilling in the empire of retards. "Yep but for now we dub you toast guy." - AC520845 *PROCLAIMED PROPHET OF THE DOW* ® Let me know when the climate STOPS changing, then i'll be worried. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81039682 United States 01/14/2022 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81039682 You just make yourself look dumber with each post. And I'm not even vaccinated, but I'm against making stuff up like you and others are trying to do. I would love it if private businesses couldn't mandate the vaccine, but they can and already have, moran. WOW you are dim. I NEVER said they can not mandate them. Sheesh you are one stupid bastard. But you said they suddenly will be open to liability and nothing has changed when it comes to that at all, so you're just wrong and doubling down and doubling down and then tripling down on stupid. Keep going. You corporate assholes no longer have daddy government that you lobbied to back you up on this issue. Anyone who's trying to just knock some sense into you must be a corporate asshole. Again I'm not vaccinated and not getting vaccinated and I am not a corporation. You need to visit your local insane asylum. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80365094 United States 01/14/2022 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ILLEGAL am these companies are setting themselves to fail. This in itself should be illegal's. Lawyers are lining up prepared for class action lawsuits too. wait and see, especially as people die. Lots of illegal things going on out the backdoor too as ceos aren't getting vaccinated... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80928359 United States 01/14/2022 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81039682 You just make yourself look dumber with each post. And I'm not even vaccinated, but I'm against making stuff up like you and others are trying to do. I would love it if private businesses couldn't mandate the vaccine, but they can and already have, moran. WOW you are dim. I NEVER said they can not mandate them. Sheesh you are one stupid bastard. But you said they suddenly will be open to liability and nothing has changed when it comes to that at all, so you're just wrong and doubling down and doubling down and then tripling down on stupid. Keep going. You corporate assholes no longer have daddy government that you lobbied to back you up on this issue. It’s not that we don’t agree with you that it’s wrong for businesses to mandate this. We’re attempting to explain to you what the law ACTUALLY IS. This ruling isn’t opening some kind of lawsuit floodgate like you seem to think. Like I said, I have no idea where you’re getting this from other than your own imagination. |
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User ID: 81230252 United States 01/14/2022 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81107803 Yes you are an idiot. I never said stupid corps will no longer force their employees to get the poison. They will be open to massive liability and will be sued into oblivion plain and simple. Are you a lawyer? Do you know what you’re talking about? No and no. Companies are well within their rights to mandate a jab. The ruling just says the government can’t mandate it as part of an OSHA regulation, and even then, the ruling only temporarily enjoins enforcement of the rule while the case continues to make its way through the courts. Please, do go on about companies getting “sued into oblivion” lol. Watch and learn corporate idiot. What law are they going to be suing under? what law are they going to enforce it under? are there any other medical requirements that they are allowed to force you to have before you are employed? that is discrimination based on medical history. are they going to also mandate an aids/cancer/high blood pressure/hepatitis/etc tests to make sure you are "clean" before working for them? Articles and "news" from liberal media shall now be known as catnip for libtards. Truth is schilling in the empire of retards. "Yep but for now we dub you toast guy." - AC520845 *PROCLAIMED PROPHET OF THE DOW* ® Let me know when the climate STOPS changing, then i'll be worried. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78914227 01/14/2022 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “FDA must ensure that recipients of the vaccine under an EUA are informed… of the known and potential benefits (sic) and risks, the extent to which the benefits and risks are unknown, that they have the option to accept or refuse the vaccine, and of any available alternatives…” Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78914227 “21 U.S.C. § 360bbb-3(e)(1)(A)(ii) Appropriate conditions designed to ensure that individuals to whom the product is administered are informed— that the Secretary has authorized the emergency use of the product; of the significant known and potential benefits and risks of such use, and of the extent to which such benefits and risks are unknown; and of the option to accept or refuse administration of the product, of the consequences, if any, of refusing administration of the product, and of the alternatives to the product that are available and of their benefits and risks.” First: this statute does not contain a citizen suit provision which allows individuals to sue for alleged violations. Second: people have the option to accept or refuse the vaccine under any circumstances. They’re free not to get vaxxed, and the company is free to part ways with its employee. Simple enough. You cannot force this… you can try to spin it however you want but mandating an EUA drug is illegal… The only reason they are doing it is because you people are to stupid and weak to stand up for yourself. |
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User ID: 80678827 United States 01/14/2022 09:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Biden administration’s nationwide Covid-19 vaccine-or-testing mandate for large private employers is dead, following the 6-3 Supreme Court opinion Thursday. But for many companies and their workers, a jab will still be a job requirement. Quoting: 442 [link to www.barrons.com (secure)] asswipes Well, when all their vaxxed employees are out sick, or too sick to work, or dead, they may change their minds. I am sure if they do require it, there is some sort of violation. Either way, if I were in the job market, I just wouldn't work there. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74788965 United States 01/14/2022 09:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So private companies can make you drug test even in states that have legalized weed but they can't make you take this so called vaccine? Seems to me private companies can pretty much set their own rules, let them hang themselves. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78914227 01/14/2022 09:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “FDA must ensure that recipients of the vaccine under an EUA are informed… of the known and potential benefits (sic) and risks, the extent to which the benefits and risks are unknown, that they have the option to accept or refuse the vaccine, and of any available alternatives…” Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78914227 “21 U.S.C. § 360bbb-3(e)(1)(A)(ii) Appropriate conditions designed to ensure that individuals to whom the product is administered are informed— that the Secretary has authorized the emergency use of the product; of the significant known and potential benefits and risks of such use, and of the extent to which such benefits and risks are unknown; and of the option to accept or refuse administration of the product, of the consequences, if any, of refusing administration of the product, and of the alternatives to the product that are available and of their benefits and risks.” First: this statute does not contain a citizen suit provision which allows individuals to sue for alleged violations. Second: people have the option to accept or refuse the vaccine under any circumstances. They’re free not to get vaxxed, and the company is free to part ways with its employee. Simple enough. It doesn’t need to contain a suit provision to allow anyone to sue… A violation of a federal law is a violation of federal law… You fucking idiots will get every bit of what’s coming to you… |