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Understanding and Breaking Down the Supreme Court Ruling on OSHA Mandates ----- Key Parts --- Everyone Should Be Proud and Empowered

 
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Even OSHA would have allowed for medical and religious exemptions from testing and masks. Why not submit a religious exemption?
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I’m not sure what kind of religious exemption to come up with to not test. They want to know the specific religion.
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I don’t belong to an organized religion. Can I still do a religious exemption?

Yes, you can. The law does not require you to belong to any organized religion, church, group, etc. Your own sincerely-held spiritual beliefs that guide your life, your choices, your actions is enough. We can help you in this area as well.

[link to www.thehealthyamerican.org (secure)]
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Thank you for the link!
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Just say religious exemption, do not wish to disclose any more information

They cant ask anything else without it been harassment.

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Blah blah blah. Companies will now fire the unvaxxed.
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And company will collapse. They don't have the balls to do it without the nudge from the government. That was their protection.
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They say they can mandate vaccines for healthcare workers... but

This jab is not a legal vaccine, so, what then?
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Blah blah blah. Companies will now fire the unvaxxed.
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and face a million lawsuits...just admit it, this is big news for us anti-vaxxers...sorry you're a loser
 Quoting: Head2Bunkers


This..so either they have to drop it, find some middle ground solution or go belly up from lawsuits
 Quoting: Disenfranchised Godzilla1980


Companies will drop the mandates. I predict this whole covid nonsense will be over by Spring. It’s unraveled on the quickly and it’s going to get worse. They’ll say omicron was a blessing and caused herd immunity.
 Quoting: JB1969


The key is pushback I think of people run with this then yes it will end
For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF
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Dont listen to the phags telling you that companies can still force you, they cant...they might try to trick you, dont give in make them fire you or back down, they will either back down or they will not be a company in the next year or 2...Bank on it.

Plus they MUST accept exemptions, MUST.

No this is not a total win by any means and yes TPTB will go to plan B very soon, but it is still a victory.

I cant wait till you vaxtards start dying off, or the cabal leaves us no more choices and we get to purge you.
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These scum allowed this too ...
The vaccine mandate for healthcare workers vote was 5-4 with Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch, and Barrett in dissent, which means Roberts and Kavanaugh joined liberal justices in allowing the HHS mandate on healthcare workers to stand.

What was needed was a firm affirmation that the government has no right to force people to take injections.

That didn't happen. From the ruling:
Permitting OSHA to regulate the hazards of daily life - simply because most Americans have jobs and face those same risks while on the clock - would significantly expand OSHA’s regulatory authority without clear congressional authorization.

So, basically, they're saying that if Congress were to "authorize" it, then it could stand.
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SCOTUS was under the impression thst shot was 100% FDA approved,

Which is incorrect.

No confidense in scotus when a couple of them spouted complete nonsense.
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The law is clear, so why would our liberal judges vote in favor of it? It should have been unanimous
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Which branch of Government does the American Bar Association belong to?
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Should I hire a lawyer to answer this question? tounge
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I work at CVS and the company has a mandate where I need to be fully vaccinated by March 31st or I get fired. Does this ruling mean they can not force the vaccine anymore?
 Quoting: muaythaiguy1


That's exactly what it means. They cannot force businesses to mandate now. A win for you and many others.
 Quoting: Mangia


Correct me if I am wrong but it means OSHA cannot mandate that CVS vaxx the employees, but it doesn't mean that CVS cannot independently mandate it. Right?
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The ONLY brightside I see to upcoming lawsuits against businesses is one caveat: does their policy say "as per OSHA guidelines," or was it enforced based solely on company policy.

But the SCOTUS will still declare that businesses have a right to require 'x, y, or z' to be employed.
 Quoting: WifeOfHusband


Either way, it will not matter because OSHA was never granted those powers, but in fact, voted against OSHA regulations; the summary and stay included this. As for the businesses they cannot make something up to fit their needs, and again the summary stay stated all this as well. Businesses can try but will feel the full rath of class-action lawsuits.

They can try, but if their policies affect workers outside work it'll be lawsuit city.


"As the agency itself explained to a federal court less than two years ago, the statute does “not authorize OSHA to issue sweeping health standards” that affect workers’ lives outside the workplace. Brief for Department of Labor, In re: AFL–CIO, No. 20–1158, pp. 3, 33 (CADC 2020). Yet that is precisely what the agency seeks to do now—regulate not just what happens inside the workplace but induce individuals to undertake a medical procedure that affects their lives outside the workplace. "
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I think we need to run a line out of Pulp fiction in reference to the vaxxtards. "You aren't going to talk yourself out of this one Brad !" What ?" "Say what ? one more time,I dare you !!!!!!!!!!!!!! .... "What ?.......PF-asknU
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SCARY AS SHIT THAT WE R JUST ONE OR TWO LIB VOTES AWAY FROM CHAOS IN THE STREETS.
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I work at CVS and the company has a mandate where I need to be fully vaccinated by March 31st or I get fired. Does this ruling mean they can not force the vaccine anymore?
 Quoting: muaythaiguy1


That's exactly what it means. They cannot force businesses to mandate now. A win for you and many others.
 Quoting: Mangia


Wrong - the GOVERNMENT can't force a business to force you.

The business can still force you if they want.
 Quoting: WifeOfHusband


But now the business won’t have daily non compliance penalties from the government

The monetary impetus is gone

Now the Company is just being a Karen
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They say they can mandate vaccines for healthcare workers... but

This jab is not a legal vaccine, so, what then?
 Quoting: Feathery


There is plenty of legal gray area here that will get quickly worked out in lower courts now. And that is the key term, legal FDA Approved Vaccines, which they are not. Boom Done!


The SCOTUS know this as well, so it was a death sentence to EUA mandated vaxes.
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I work at CVS and the company has a mandate where I need to be fully vaccinated by March 31st or I get fired. Does this ruling mean they can not force the vaccine anymore?
 Quoting: muaythaiguy1


That's exactly what it means. They cannot force businesses to mandate now. A win for you and many others.
 Quoting: Mangia


Correct me if I am wrong but it means OSHA cannot mandate that CVS vaxx the employees, but it doesn't mean that CVS cannot independently mandate it. Right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79755087


^ once the EUA is lifted when the corrupt government (FDA) approves it I mean.
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I work at CVS and the company has a mandate where I need to be fully vaccinated by March 31st or I get fired. Does this ruling mean they can not force the vaccine anymore?
 Quoting: muaythaiguy1


That's exactly what it means. They cannot force businesses to mandate now. A win for you and many others.
 Quoting: Mangia


Wrong - the GOVERNMENT can't force a business to force you.

The business can still force you if they want.
 Quoting: WifeOfHusband


Sure anyone can force anyone to do anything if they submissively comply, however, that doesn't make it lawful, or legal now does it.

Lawyers suck until people need them, but these days we're going to need them more than ever. Submissive and apathetic people will always get bullied and tortured because that is the role they play, but that doesn't mean it's right, or legal. In this case, people have legal recourse to sue now.
 Quoting: Mangia


Any business can mandate all their office workers to come to work all day and sit there naked at their desk in view of coworkers, but that doesn’t make it safe, legal or healthy. There may be legal and moral options.
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I work at CVS and the company has a mandate where I need to be fully vaccinated by March 31st or I get fired. Does this ruling mean they can not force the vaccine anymore?
 Quoting: muaythaiguy1


That's exactly what it means. They cannot force businesses to mandate now. A win for you and many others.
 Quoting: Mangia


Correct me if I am wrong but it means OSHA cannot mandate that CVS vaxx the employees, but it doesn't mean that CVS cannot independently mandate it. Right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79755087


^ once the EUA is lifted when the corrupt government (FDA) approves it I mean.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79755087



That won't happen the FDA is under serious scrutiny right now, and they understand that the historic vaccine approval protocol took decades for full scientific disclosure and solid scientific efficacy to finalize. Basically, they negated and tossed out a hundred years of science, testing, ethics, and protocols to push an experimental vaccine out, in months.


That is why this entire shit-show is so scary, science went against its own doctrine, protocols, and ethics, however, it wasn't science, but rather TPTB trying to control people.
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That's exactly what it means. They cannot force businesses to mandate now. A win for you and many others.
 Quoting: Mangia


Wrong - the GOVERNMENT can't force a business to force you.

The business can still force you if they want.
 Quoting: WifeOfHusband


Sure anyone can force anyone to do anything if they submissively comply, however, that doesn't make it lawful, or legal now does it.

Lawyers suck until people need them, but these days we're going to need them more than ever. Submissive and apathetic people will always get bullied and tortured because that is the role they play, but that doesn't mean it's right, or legal. In this case, people have legal recourse to sue now.
 Quoting: Mangia


Any business can mandate all their office workers to come to work all day and sit there naked at their desk in view of coworkers, but that doesn’t make it safe, legal or healthy. There may be legal and moral options.
 Quoting: Texas Best Anti-Faucist



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what does today's decision do for people that are being forced to show a vax card to eat at restaurants or enter public gyms etc.?
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what does today's decision do for people that are being forced to show a vax card to eat at restaurants or enter public gyms etc.?
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Not a damn thing.
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what does today's decision do for people that are being forced to show a vax card to eat at restaurants or enter public gyms etc.?
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it means those places aren't sanitary and you should not give them any of your money.
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That's exactly what it means. They cannot force businesses to mandate now. A win for you and many others.
 Quoting: Mangia


Correct me if I am wrong but it means OSHA cannot mandate that CVS vaxx the employees, but it doesn't mean that CVS cannot independently mandate it. Right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79755087


^ once the EUA is lifted when the corrupt government (FDA) approves it I mean.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79755087



That won't happen the FDA is under serious scrutiny right now, and they understand that the historic vaccine approval protocol took decades for full scientific disclosure and solid scientific efficacy to finalize. Basically, they negated and tossed out a hundred years of science, testing, ethics, and protocols to push an experimental vaccine out, in months.


That is why this entire shit-show is so scary, science went against its own doctrine, protocols, and ethics, however, it wasn't science, but rather TPTB trying to control people.
 Quoting: Mangia


You are making great leaps of faith here.

All this says is that OSHA cant fine an employer to compel vaccine mandates and nothing more.

Would a business be foolish to do it unilaterialy? Yes, but that doesn't mean they can't if and when it is authorized.

And as far as the FDA, these bastards are completely controlled to assume they won't approve this is a stretch they are knee deep in this boondoggle they are likely to do anything at this point they keep doubling down on this crime against humanity why would they stop now?
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what does today's decision do for people that are being forced to show a vax card to eat at restaurants or enter public gyms etc.?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64408244


Good Question!


It looks like it's going to be a legal shit-show for a long time coming, however, those businesses mandating or forcing people to show vax cards are treading on thin-legal ice and may lose everything they have by taking that stance.


People can enforce lib-tard laws, but it may cost them everything they have ever worked for plus more.
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Sooo....TRUMPS SUPREME COURT....just knocked down the biggest federal power grab ever attempted in the USA .


So you think Trump is just like the rest of them?

TRUMPS COURT just killed this tyrannical "mandate"!!!


So ...suck on that Trinity & all other Trump bashers
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From what I understand this is a temporary injunction? Lower courts can still argue this, and scotus can change the ruling in the future. it would be many months, but it's not permanent yet. Though it does convey the probably future rulings.

 Quoting: Tangy


Although SCJ's not supposed to play politics, the level of political chess and brilliance of this injunction may be temporary, but clearly states that those that oppose the highest laws of our land will get what is coming to them.

The legal rope they have given is just enough for all those that challenge this to hang themselves properly.
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tgthumbsup3
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You are the creator of your own master plan... Make it a good one.

Wake the fuk up and be ready... This is absolutely no time to be stupid!

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Would a business be foolish to do it unilaterialy? Yes, but that doesn't mean they can't if and when it is authorized.

And as far as the FDA, these bastards are completely controlled to assume they won't approve this is a stretch they are knee deep in this boondoggle they are likely to do anything at this point they keep doubling down on this crime against humanity why would they stop now?
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True, a business can do whatever it wants. Congress can do whatever it wants now as well, does it make it just, and/or legal?


This decision today gave footing to citizens that want ethics, laws, and rights restored, in the USA. Liberal shit-heals in office have further eroded US citizens' rights to almost surf-status will be vetted one way or another. It's probably in everyone's best interest we do this the legal way, and with full ethics involved.


If I was a CEO, politician, or authority figure that was involved in this mass psyops I'd be looking for a secluded island real fast, because lots of people have lost everything, and when people have lost everything they basically have zero to lose. ;)
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I work at CVS and the company has a mandate where I need to be fully vaccinated by March 31st or I get fired. Does this ruling mean they can not force the vaccine anymore?
 Quoting: muaythaiguy1


That's exactly what it means. They cannot force businesses to mandate now. A win for you and many others.
 Quoting: Mangia


Wrong - the GOVERNMENT can't force a business to force you.

The business can still force you if they want.
 Quoting: WifeOfHusband


Sure anyone can force anyone to do anything if they submissively comply, however, that doesn't make it lawful, or legal now does it.

Lawyers suck until people need them, but these days we're going to need them more than ever. Submissive and apathetic people will always get bullied and tortured because that is the role they play, but that doesn't mean it's right, or legal. In this case, people have legal recourse to sue now.
 Quoting: Mangia


OSHA SAYS EMPLOYERS ARE LIABLE FOR MANDATED VACCINE DAMAGES AND CANNOT PENALIZE EMPLOYEES FOR REJECTING

"If you require your employees to be vaccinated as a condition of employment (i.e., for work-related reasons), then any adverse reaction to the COVID-19 vaccine is work-related. The adverse reaction is recordable if it is a new case under 29 CFR 1904.6 and meets one or more of the general recording criteria in 29 CFR 1904.7.





GLP