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For the first time, since the breakup of Yugoslavia, I think we have a real possibility for a major war.

As the Ukrainians are not being used to calm down, they will persist in their genocide against Russians and press for seizing Crimea. This will definitely lead to war with Russia.

If Russia is forced to actually cross the border, why would they stop in the Donetz basin? It is an irrational idea. Therefore, the Russian Army will be in Kieve in a week. No two ways about it.

The one big question is will any Nato forces be moved into Ukraine/Sea of Azov, or take potshots at Russia from the Baltic States. I'm afraid that the odds are very high that some soy boy or girl will think it smart to engage Russia with Nato.

War has many surprises. However, looking at initial starting forces, reasonable developments can be deduced. Russia can be on the English Channel in a couple of months.

In this case, I wish Russia every success.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72411668


261.10₽ Russian Rubles ... Unless Putin demoted the troll farm for poor performance, then it might be less.
 Quoting: SHILL ALERT 76100538


No man, 1st off, there is no America anymore. That place is long gone and despised by the leaders here.

As for Russia I don't need them firing their munitions in our general direction. I want to be left alone by them.

It's common sense you don't go starting drama in someone's backyard.

You don't go poking sticks in a hornet's nest.
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Themselves. Their reservists have a horrendous quit/awol rate...they aren't integrated with the regs effectively and the regs only have a few modernised divisions and poor nco's.

Russia at the English Channel...LMAO!! The majority if their kit is cold war stuff. They don't want war and neither does Nato. Its bargaining time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40927115


I do not have data on the Russian force's AWOL rate. I'll take your word for that. Regarding the equipment is dated, yes, many thousands are. Those are mostly in the reserves. there are many thousands of old BMP 1s still in the reserves, but it is still a very useful vehicle. The active-duty forces have mostly new and first-class equipment.

Remember Stalin's observation, "Quantity has a quality all its own".

The Russian Airforce will be at some disadvantage but in the big picture it will not matter--in the early stages anyway.
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Russia isnt a fraction of the Soviet Union.

Its a country of less tham 200,000,000 people. Its outnumbered pretty big in all areas
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71097333


Putin will use nukes to destroy larger concentrations of troops.
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The next country to drop a nuke, regardless of who or for what reason, is going to be the enemy of every country in the world.
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261.10₽ Russian Rubles ... Unless Putin demoted the troll farm for poor performance, then it might be less.
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Who will stop the Russian Army? You?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72411668


Themselves. Their reservists have a horrendous quit/awol rate...they aren't integrated with the regs effectively and the regs only have a few modernised divisions and poor nco's.

Russia at the English Channel...LMAO!! The majority if their kit is cold war stuff. They don't want war and neither does Nato. Its bargaining time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40927115


This ^

Putin is all fucking talk and everyone knows it.
The guys with the big guns don;t talk, THEY ACT.

Putin is trying to bolster his credibility so he can get some better negotiations out of the deal.

Putin can't even keep his own people in check, 75% of whom would cut his throat in a heartbeat given the chance.

just talk to real Russian (not the troll farms) and you will see how they discuss this joker behind his back.

The only reason they don't come out publicly and say it is becasue of Putin's mafia who tracks them down and silences them and their families.

That time is about over though.
The People are rising up.
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Wait a sec man, you've got to be out of your mind with this gung-ho ra-ra America mindset.

There is no America.

Everyone hates everyone here 20 different ways. People on MSNBC were saying non vaxed people should be droned. Trump voters filmed being mob attacked -- and you have CNN TV anchors laughing about it. Any major US city looks like some drug infested gang-controlled dystopia. Are you kidding me?

As for Russia, we're in their backyard creating drama on their doorstep. You can't say that we aren't. There's no way we'd be ok with Russia kicking off civil wars in Mexico and then setting up militry bases and missiles in Mexico, Puerto Rico and Canada. Are you kidding?

Dude, we don't even protect our own borders! You've been sold out by your own leader and aint' no American willing to lay their life down for this regime.

Stay out of people's backyards, quit kicking up drama in hornet's nests. We don't need them. Europe is rich and can pay and handle for their own security and relations.

We need to protect our own borders.
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For the first time, since the breakup of Yugoslavia, I think we have a real possibility for a major war.

As the Ukrainians are not being used to calm down, they will persist in their genocide against Russians and press for seizing Crimea. This will definitely lead to war with Russia.

If Russia is forced to actually cross the border, why would they stop in the Donetz basin? It is an irrational idea. Therefore, the Russian Army will be in Kieve in a week. No two ways about it.

The one big question is will any Nato forces be moved into Ukraine/Sea of Azov, or take potshots at Russia from the Baltic States. I'm afraid that the odds are very high that some soy boy or girl will think it smart to engage Russia with Nato.

War has many surprises. However, looking at initial starting forces, reasonable developments can be deduced. Russia can be on the English Channel in a couple of months.

In this case, I wish Russia every success.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72411668


261.10₽ Russian Rubles ... Unless Putin demoted the troll farm for poor performance, then it might be less.
 Quoting: SHILL ALERT 76100538


No man, 1st off, there is no America anymore. That place is long gone and despised by the leaders here.

As for Russia I don't need them firing their munitions in our general direction. I want to be left alone by them.

It's common sense you don't go starting drama in someone's backyard.

You don't go poking sticks in a hornet's nest.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76766798


I guess you don't stand up for weaker people when they ask for help either?
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Who will stop the Russian Army? You?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72411668


Themselves. Their reservists have a horrendous quit/awol rate...they aren't integrated with the regs effectively and the regs only have a few modernised divisions and poor nco's.

Russia at the English Channel...LMAO!! The majority if their kit is cold war stuff. They don't want war and neither does Nato. Its bargaining time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40927115


This ^

Putin is all fucking talk and everyone knows it.
The guys with the big guns don;t talk, THEY ACT.

Putin is trying to bolster his credibility so he can get some better negotiations out of the deal.

Putin can't even keep his own people in check, 75% of whom would cut his throat in a heartbeat given the chance.

just talk to real Russian (not the troll farms) and you will see how they discuss this joker behind his back.

The only reason they don't come out publicly and say it is becasue of Putin's mafia who tracks them down and silences them and their families.

That time is about over though.
The People are rising up.
 Quoting: It's TIME! 80687229


Wait a sec man, you've got to be out of your mind with this gung-ho ra-ra America mindset.

There is no America.

Everyone hates everyone here 20 different ways. People on MSNBC were saying non vaxed people should be droned. Trump voters filmed being mob attacked -- and you have CNN TV anchors laughing about it. Any major US city looks like some drug infested gang-controlled dystopia. Are you kidding me?

As for Russia, we're in their backyard creating drama on their doorstep. You can't say that we aren't. There's no way we'd be ok with Russia kicking off civil wars in Mexico and then setting up militry bases and missiles in Mexico, Puerto Rico and Canada. Are you kidding?

Dude, we don't even protect our own borders! You've been sold out by your own leader and aint' no American willing to lay their life down for this regime.

Stay out of people's backyards, quit kicking up drama in hornet's nests. We don't need them. Europe is rich and can pay and handle for their own security and relations.

We need to protect our own borders.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76766798


continued...

You aren't seeing the big picture.

The bigg picture is what the world will look 20 years out. Russia is the least of our worries. They're not even on the radar.

Pay attention to what's happening here and imagine this situation 20XX worse in 20 years cause that's how it's gonna be.
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For the first time, since the breakup of Yugoslavia, I think we have a real possibility for a major war.

As the Ukrainians are not being used to calm down, they will persist in their genocide against Russians and press for seizing Crimea. This will definitely lead to war with Russia.

If Russia is forced to actually cross the border, why would they stop in the Donetz basin? It is an irrational idea. Therefore, the Russian Army will be in Kieve in a week. No two ways about it.

The one big question is will any Nato forces be moved into Ukraine/Sea of Azov, or take potshots at Russia from the Baltic States. I'm afraid that the odds are very high that some soy boy or girl will think it smart to engage Russia with Nato.

War has many surprises. However, looking at initial starting forces, reasonable developments can be deduced. Russia can be on the English Channel in a couple of months.

In this case, I wish Russia every success.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72411668


261.10₽ Russian Rubles ... Unless Putin demoted the troll farm for poor performance, then it might be less.
 Quoting: SHILL ALERT 76100538


No man, 1st off, there is no America anymore. That place is long gone and despised by the leaders here.


As for Russia I don't need them firing their munitions in our general direction. I want to be left alone by them.

It's common sense you don't go starting drama in someone's backyard.

You don't go poking sticks in a hornet's nest.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76766798



True, a coup occurred by fraudulent election in 2020..
The USA is an occupied territory mainly controlled by those we cannot name here.
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For the first time, since the breakup of Yugoslavia, I think we have a real possibility for a major war.

As the Ukrainians are not being used to calm down, they will persist in their genocide against Russians and press for seizing Crimea. This will definitely lead to war with Russia.

If Russia is forced to actually cross the border, why would they stop in the Donetz basin? It is an irrational idea. Therefore, the Russian Army will be in Kieve in a week. No two ways about it.

The one big question is will any Nato forces be moved into Ukraine/Sea of Azov, or take potshots at Russia from the Baltic States. I'm afraid that the odds are very high that some soy boy or girl will think it smart to engage Russia with Nato.

War has many surprises. However, looking at initial starting forces, reasonable developments can be deduced. Russia can be on the English Channel in a couple of months.

In this case, I wish Russia every success.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72411668


261.10₽ Russian Rubles ... Unless Putin demoted the troll farm for poor performance, then it might be less.
 Quoting: SHILL ALERT 76100538


No man, 1st off, there is no America anymore. That place is long gone and despised by the leaders here.

As for Russia I don't need them firing their munitions in our general direction. I want to be left alone by them.

It's common sense you don't go starting drama in someone's backyard.

You don't go poking sticks in a hornet's nest.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76766798


I guess you don't stand up for weaker people when they ask for help either?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45467759


You seem to forget that since 2014 -- Kiev has been murdering ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine!

It'll make you sick to your stomach to see photos of blown up families there. There's been a real conflict there since 2014. What about those people??

America was all about people wanting to break from tyranny and danger so they can chart their own destiny. Ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine and southern Ukraine deserve to live in peace too.


This is none of our concern. What about the weak people on US borders being wrecked by that situation??
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My Uncle sent this:



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That's crazy scary!!

gasp
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Yet can be stopped by a single patriot battery.
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They shoot their rockets and boogie on outta there:
the patriot missile guys will still be putting on their boots.
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Who will stop the Russian Army? You?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72411668


Themselves. Their reservists have a horrendous quit/awol rate...they aren't integrated with the regs effectively and the regs only have a few modernised divisions and poor nco's.

Russia at the English Channel...LMAO!! The majority if their kit is cold war stuff. They don't want war and neither does Nato. Its bargaining time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40927115


I do not have data on the Russian force's AWOL rate. I'll take your word for that. Regarding the equipment is dated, yes, many thousands are. Those are mostly in the reserves. there are many thousands of old BMP 1s still in the reserves, but it is still a very useful vehicle. The active-duty forces have mostly new and first-class equipment.

Remember Stalin's observation, "Quantity has a quality all its own".

The Russian Airforce will be at some disadvantage but in the big picture it will not matter--in the early stages anyway.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72411668




Russia isnt a fraction of the Soviet Union.

Its a country of less tham 200,000,000 people. Its outnumbered pretty big in all areas
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71097333


Your point is unimportant.
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Themselves. Their reservists have a horrendous quit/awol rate...they aren't integrated with the regs effectively and the regs only have a few modernised divisions and poor nco's.

Russia at the English Channel...LMAO!! The majority if their kit is cold war stuff. They don't want war and neither does Nato. Its bargaining time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40927115


I do not have data on the Russian force's AWOL rate. I'll take your word for that. Regarding the equipment is dated, yes, many thousands are. Those are mostly in the reserves. there are many thousands of old BMP 1s still in the reserves, but it is still a very useful vehicle. The active-duty forces have mostly new and first-class equipment.

Remember Stalin's observation, "Quantity has a quality all its own".

The Russian Airforce will be at some disadvantage but in the big picture it will not matter--in the early stages anyway.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72411668




Russia isnt a fraction of the Soviet Union.

Its a country of less tham 200,000,000 people. Its outnumbered pretty big in all areas
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71097333


Your point is unimportant.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72411668



Yeah these people that compare our gear to Russia's gear totally miss the point.

They don't have to match us.

All they have to do is go for our satellites and undersea cables and we're thrown back to 1800's.
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Themselves. Their reservists have a horrendous quit/awol rate...they aren't integrated with the regs effectively and the regs only have a few modernised divisions and poor nco's.

Russia at the English Channel...LMAO!! The majority if their kit is cold war stuff. They don't want war and neither does Nato. Its bargaining time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40927115


I do not have data on the Russian force's AWOL rate. I'll take your word for that. Regarding the equipment is dated, yes, many thousands are. Those are mostly in the reserves. there are many thousands of old BMP 1s still in the reserves, but it is still a very useful vehicle. The active-duty forces have mostly new and first-class equipment.

Remember Stalin's observation, "Quantity has a quality all its own".

The Russian Airforce will be at some disadvantage but in the big picture it will not matter--in the early stages anyway.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72411668




Russia isnt a fraction of the Soviet Union.

Its a country of less tham 200,000,000 people. Its outnumbered pretty big in all areas
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71097333


Your point is unimportant.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72411668


In the meantime, China has taken Taiwan, Japan, Korea and Hawaii.

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continued...

And if Russia takes our our satellites and undersea cables first... we're in the stone ages.

North America will be a Mad Max continent of ethnic, religious and political groups massacuring each other.

Now if we managed to knock out their cables also, they can rebound easier. They're more unified than we are. And these are hard people used to living in harsh conditions.

People need to think outside of who's got the better stealth fighter. Cause it ain't gonnna play out like that.
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261.10₽ Russian Rubles ... Unless Putin demoted the troll farm for poor performance, then it might be less.
 Quoting: SHILL ALERT 76100538


No man, 1st off, there is no America anymore. That place is long gone and despised by the leaders here.

As for Russia I don't need them firing their munitions in our general direction. I want to be left alone by them.

It's common sense you don't go starting drama in someone's backyard.

You don't go poking sticks in a hornet's nest.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76766798


I guess you don't stand up for weaker people when they ask for help either?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45467759


You seem to forget that since 2014 -- Kiev has been murdering ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine!

It'll make you sick to your stomach to see photos of blown up families there. There's been a real conflict there since 2014. What about those people??

America was all about people wanting to break from tyranny and danger so they can chart their own destiny. Ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine and southern Ukraine deserve to live in peace too.


This is none of our concern. What about the weak people on US borders being wrecked by that situation??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76766798


Here we go with the ethnic Russian nazi style crap again. Was their excuse in the baltics, georgia, ukraine and I expect to hear it about Kazakhstan here pretty quick as well.
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4625 Khz is playing music I wonder if they'll play The final countdown..

[link to websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901]
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What the hell....it went from playing Cruel Summer to ...I have no idea what 80s song that is. It's never done that before.

Are we being rickrolled?
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I do not have data on the Russian force's AWOL rate. I'll take your word for that. Regarding the equipment is dated, yes, many thousands are. Those are mostly in the reserves. there are many thousands of old BMP 1s still in the reserves, but it is still a very useful vehicle. The active-duty forces have mostly new and first-class equipment.

Remember Stalin's observation, "Quantity has a quality all its own".

The Russian Airforce will be at some disadvantage but in the big picture it will not matter--in the early stages anyway.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72411668




Russia isnt a fraction of the Soviet Union.

Its a country of less tham 200,000,000 people. Its outnumbered pretty big in all areas
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71097333


Your point is unimportant.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72411668


In the meantime, China has taken Taiwan, Japan, Korea and Hawaii.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22935650


I live in Hawaii you dumb fuck. Ain't no chinese here.

retards2
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the ground looks frozen. Unleash the Mongol Horde!
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No man, 1st off, there is no America anymore. That place is long gone and despised by the leaders here.

As for Russia I don't need them firing their munitions in our general direction. I want to be left alone by them.

It's common sense you don't go starting drama in someone's backyard.

You don't go poking sticks in a hornet's nest.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76766798


I guess you don't stand up for weaker people when they ask for help either?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45467759


You seem to forget that since 2014 -- Kiev has been murdering ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine!

It'll make you sick to your stomach to see photos of blown up families there. There's been a real conflict there since 2014. What about those people??

America was all about people wanting to break from tyranny and danger so they can chart their own destiny. Ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine and southern Ukraine deserve to live in peace too.


This is none of our concern. What about the weak people on US borders being wrecked by that situation??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76766798


Here we go with the ethnic Russian nazi style crap again. Was their excuse in the baltics, georgia, ukraine and I expect to hear it about Kazakhstan here pretty quick as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45755226



Georgia was about ethnic Russians living in the north being shelled. Then a motley crew of Russian militias and cossack types assembled along with nearby miitary and rolled into Georgia. That's the thing about those guys, they protect their own.

Meanwhile, tune into our TV and TV anchors fantasy about vanishing half the country that voted for Trump or didn't get the vax.

Again, this Russia stuff could easily lead to them cutting cables and knocking out our satellites and it's back to the stone ages. Mad Max USA here we come.
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More saber rattling from the failing state of russia.
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[link to countryeconomy.com (secure)]

The national debt increased in Russia

In 2020 Russia public debt was 285,707 million dollars, has increased 52,578 million since 2019.

[link to countryeconomy.com (secure)]
46,201,910 That would be trillions as the US alone owes their owners about $30T.

Not really winners in any category, it seems.
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For the first time, since the breakup of Yugoslavia, I think we have a real possibility for a major war.

As the Ukrainians are not being used to calm down, they will persist in their genocide against Russians and press for seizing Crimea. This will definitely lead to war with Russia.

If Russia is forced to actually cross the border, why would they stop in the Donetz basin? It is an irrational idea. Therefore, the Russian Army will be in Kieve in a week. No two ways about it.

The one big question is will any Nato forces be moved into Ukraine/Sea of Azov, or take potshots at Russia from the Baltic States. I'm afraid that the odds are very high that some soy boy or girl will think it smart to engage Russia with Nato.

War has many surprises. However, looking at initial starting forces, reasonable developments can be deduced. Russia can be on the English Channel in a couple of months.

In this case, I wish Russia every success.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72411668


261.10₽ Russian Rubles ... Unless Putin demoted the troll farm for poor performance, then it might be less.
 Quoting: SHILL ALERT 76100538


No man, 1st off, there is no America anymore. That place is long gone and despised by the leaders here.


As for Russia I don't need them firing their munitions in our general direction. I want to be left alone by them.

It's common sense you don't go starting drama in someone's backyard.

You don't go poking sticks in a hornet's nest.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76766798



True, a coup occurred by fraudulent election in 2020..
The USA is an occupied territory mainly controlled by those we cannot name here.

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Yet, no one can name the exact people involved in the coup and explain the mystery of how it was possible to coordinate a nationwide steal. epiclol
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I guess you don't stand up for weaker people when they ask for help either?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45467759


You seem to forget that since 2014 -- Kiev has been murdering ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine!

It'll make you sick to your stomach to see photos of blown up families there. There's been a real conflict there since 2014. What about those people??

America was all about people wanting to break from tyranny and danger so they can chart their own destiny. Ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine and southern Ukraine deserve to live in peace too.


This is none of our concern. What about the weak people on US borders being wrecked by that situation??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76766798


Here we go with the ethnic Russian nazi style crap again. Was their excuse in the baltics, georgia, ukraine and I expect to hear it about Kazakhstan here pretty quick as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45755226



Georgia was about ethnic Russians living in the north being shelled. Then a motley crew of Russian militias and cossack types assembled along with nearby miitary and rolled into Georgia. That's the thing about those guys, they protect their own.

Meanwhile, tune into our TV and TV anchors fantasy about vanishing half the country that voted for Trump or didn't get the vax.

Again, this Russia stuff could easily lead to them cutting cables and knocking out our satellites and it's back to the stone ages. Mad Max USA here we come.
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Any time russia gets in trouble at the UN it is their excuse, their get out of jail free card if you will.

Every knows it.

While nukes is Russia's only real threat militarily, the next country to fire a nuke for any reason, no matter who it is, is going to be the enemy of the entire world.
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You seem to forget that since 2014 -- Kiev has been murdering ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine!

It'll make you sick to your stomach to see photos of blown up families there. There's been a real conflict there since 2014. What about those people??

America was all about people wanting to break from tyranny and danger so they can chart their own destiny. Ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine and southern Ukraine deserve to live in peace too.


This is none of our concern. What about the weak people on US borders being wrecked by that situation??
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Here we go with the ethnic Russian nazi style crap again. Was their excuse in the baltics, georgia, ukraine and I expect to hear it about Kazakhstan here pretty quick as well.
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Georgia was about ethnic Russians living in the north being shelled. Then a motley crew of Russian militias and cossack types assembled along with nearby miitary and rolled into Georgia. That's the thing about those guys, they protect their own.

Meanwhile, tune into our TV and TV anchors fantasy about vanishing half the country that voted for Trump or didn't get the vax.

Again, this Russia stuff could easily lead to them cutting cables and knocking out our satellites and it's back to the stone ages. Mad Max USA here we come.
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Any time russia gets in trouble at the UN it is their excuse, their get out of jail free card if you will.

Every knows it.

While nukes is Russia's only real threat militarily, the next country to fire a nuke for any reason, no matter who it is, is going to be the enemy of the entire world.
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You are NOT paying attention and thinking this through.
They can just wreck our satellites and/or undersea cables or heck wipe out everything sitting in your bank account and it's mass chaos. Instead of going toe-to-toe in some proxy war, that's the obvious thing they'll do as they've attacked us with cyberattacks in the past. Is waking up tomorrow in a 1800's style Mad Max dystopia the lifestyle you want for your loved ones??
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01/12/2022 07:58 PM
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More saber rattling from the failing state of russia.
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The national debt increased in Russia

In 2020 Russia public debt was 285,707 million dollars, has increased 52,578 million since 2019.

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46,201,910 That would be trillions as the US alone owes their owners about $30T.

Not really winners in any category, it seems.
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They won't play nice so the sanctions are killing them. They won't admit it and it's mostly hurting the common folk not the thug oligarchs.

They are failing more than economically.
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01/12/2022 08:00 PM
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Heck, all they have to do is turn off the welfare card system and America goes Mad Max!

They ain't gonna fight us toe-to-toe. They're going to do sneaky shit like this so they can deny they did it.

Just think what would happen in your city, if those welfare cards and all that just stopped working.

You already see what happens when BLM/antifa runs wild. You wanna live in that??
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01/12/2022 08:03 PM
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Dear Mr. Putin

We the people of The United States have noticed your lack of 5G towers in all Russian land. Which tells us all we need to know about what this upcoming war is really about. We humbly request that you put a stop to the genocidal NWO on a global scale and liberate us from our captives.

sincerely The Americans
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No man, 1st off, there is no America anymore. That place is long gone and despised by the leaders here.

As for Russia I don't need them firing their munitions in our general direction. I want to be left alone by them.

It's common sense you don't go starting drama in someone's backyard.

You don't go poking sticks in a hornet's nest.
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I guess you don't stand up for weaker people when they ask for help either?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45467759


You seem to forget that since 2014 -- Kiev has been murdering ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine!

It'll make you sick to your stomach to see photos of blown up families there. There's been a real conflict there since 2014. What about those people??

America was all about people wanting to break from tyranny and danger so they can chart their own destiny. Ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine and southern Ukraine deserve to live in peace too.


This is none of our concern. What about the weak people on US borders being wrecked by that situation??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76766798


Here we go with the ethnic Russian nazi style crap again. Was their excuse in the baltics, georgia, ukraine and I expect to hear it about Kazakhstan here pretty quick as well.
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We're playing right into Russia-China's hand.
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01/12/2022 08:12 PM
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Here we go with the ethnic Russian nazi style crap again. Was their excuse in the baltics, georgia, ukraine and I expect to hear it about Kazakhstan here pretty quick as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45755226



Georgia was about ethnic Russians living in the north being shelled. Then a motley crew of Russian militias and cossack types assembled along with nearby miitary and rolled into Georgia. That's the thing about those guys, they protect their own.

Meanwhile, tune into our TV and TV anchors fantasy about vanishing half the country that voted for Trump or didn't get the vax.

Again, this Russia stuff could easily lead to them cutting cables and knocking out our satellites and it's back to the stone ages. Mad Max USA here we come.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76766798


Any time russia gets in trouble at the UN it is their excuse, their get out of jail free card if you will.

Every knows it.

While nukes is Russia's only real threat militarily, the next country to fire a nuke for any reason, no matter who it is, is going to be the enemy of the entire world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45755226




You are NOT paying attention and thinking this through.
They can just wreck our satellites and/or undersea cables or heck wipe out everything sitting in your bank account and it's mass chaos. Instead of going toe-to-toe in some proxy war, that's the obvious thing they'll do as they've attacked us with cyberattacks in the past. Is waking up tomorrow in a 1800's style Mad Max dystopia the lifestyle you want for your loved ones??
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Mad max was nukes retard. Mister Robot and live free or diehard is your fire sale fantasy.

Russia's anti satellite capability is extremely limited. They just did a test that the US did in the 1980s for example. If they nuke EMPed they'd risk taking theirs out as well. As for cutting the undersea cable, they'd have to cut ALL OF THEM ALL AT ONCE to make an actual impact.

You obviously don't know enough to be talking about this topic at any depth.
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I guess you don't stand up for weaker people when they ask for help either?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45467759


You seem to forget that since 2014 -- Kiev has been murdering ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine!

It'll make you sick to your stomach to see photos of blown up families there. There's been a real conflict there since 2014. What about those people??

America was all about people wanting to break from tyranny and danger so they can chart their own destiny. Ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine and southern Ukraine deserve to live in peace too.


This is none of our concern. What about the weak people on US borders being wrecked by that situation??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76766798


Here we go with the ethnic Russian nazi style crap again. Was their excuse in the baltics, georgia, ukraine and I expect to hear it about Kazakhstan here pretty quick as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45755226


We're playing right into Russia-China's hand.
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China has little to nothing to do with this. They don't have a mutual defense pact with Russia. They are barely even allies. Israel and Russia have closer ties than China and Russia do.
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01/12/2022 09:10 PM
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Who will stop the Russian Army? You?
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Themselves. Their reservists have a horrendous quit/awol rate...they aren't integrated with the regs effectively and the regs only have a few modernised divisions and poor nco's.

Russia at the English Channel...LMAO!! The majority if their kit is cold war stuff. They don't want war and neither does Nato. Its bargaining time.
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I do not have data on the Russian force's AWOL rate. I'll take your word for that. Regarding the equipment is dated, yes, many thousands are. Those are mostly in the reserves. there are many thousands of old BMP 1s still in the reserves, but it is still a very useful vehicle. The active-duty forces have mostly new and first-class equipment.

Remember Stalin's observation, "Quantity has a quality all its own".

The Russian Airforce will be at some disadvantage but in the big picture it will not matter--in the early stages anyway.
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Russia's military is 80% conscripts that serve less than few years, including their active service members.

Their navy is a joke and fully admitted that it would take two kilo 2s to even take on a single burke, hence their modernization program.

Their airforce is also a joke. Of their estimated 4500 aircraft less than 400 are modern.

Shitty f35s walked all over s300/400s in syria. Imagine what a f22 could do.

A single 1960s atgm took out a t90 in syria. This actually happened to several models.

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Their hypersonic missiles everyone screams about are still being tested and have not been fielded.

The list here goes on and on.

Russia has nukes and that's about it.
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Who will stop the Russian Army? You?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72411668


Themselves. Their reservists have a horrendous quit/awol rate...they aren't integrated with the regs effectively and the regs only have a few modernised divisions and poor nco's.

Russia at the English Channel...LMAO!! The majority if their kit is cold war stuff. They don't want war and neither does Nato. Its bargaining time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40927115


I do not have data on the Russian force's AWOL rate. I'll take your word for that. Regarding the equipment is dated, yes, many thousands are. Those are mostly in the reserves. there are many thousands of old BMP 1s still in the reserves, but it is still a very useful vehicle. The active-duty forces have mostly new and first-class equipment.

Remember Stalin's observation, "Quantity has a quality all its own".

The Russian Airforce will be at some disadvantage but in the big picture it will not matter--in the early stages anyway.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72411668


Russia's military is 80% conscripts that serve less than few years, including their active service members.

Their navy is a joke and fully admitted that it would take two kilo 2s to even take on a single burke, hence their modernization program.

Their airforce is also a joke. Of their estimated 4500 aircraft less than 400 are modern.

Shitty f35s walked all over s300/400s in syria. Imagine what a f22 could do.

A single 1960s atgm took out a t90 in syria. This actually happened to several models.

[link to youtube.com (secure)]

Their hypersonic missiles everyone screams about are still being tested and have not been fielded.

The list here goes on and on.

Russia has nukes and that's about it.
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Russia would get wiped, minus the nukes.
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Obama had us near to a war with Russia right before he left office. Trump eased political tensions everywhere. He leaves office and we are right back to global wars again.
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