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19th century World's Fairs created to hide real ancient high-tech buildings in the US and Europe?

 
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19th century World's Fairs created to hide real ancient high-tech buildings in the US and Europe?
It was already tried to discuss 2 years ago here on GLP, but with the current global situation it's more interesting than ever now:

This documentary summarizes it well: For the 19th century and early 20th century World's Fairs in various locations of the United States of America and Europe, impressive and huge Roman-Greco style antique looking buildings were created which are difficult to explain in context of available resources of that time.

It's said that they were made of plaster, wood and fabric as the intend was to dismantle them at the end of each fair.

Though most of those huge buildings were afterwards said to have been rebuild in concrete and stone due to the request of the local population. But if you see under which limited resources those cities has to work with at those times, it's difficult to explain how they managed to do that.

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List of still existing World's Fairs buildings:
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

I agree with many of the documentary's statements. For example pointing out specialty of this real antique style compared to some imitation buildings which were added for the fairs. The real style presents its special geometric proportions and fractal allegory which wasn't just pure decoration but had physical meaning. Just a simple example: The facade of early 20th century city houses created air turbulences which improved the temperature management of the building inside. It also was noise absorbent.

But I'm not agreeing with the documentary's slight tendency into communist ideas as they focus at times on proposing a global almost identical culture as source for those buildings. They also advertise JRR Tolkien and try to sell the Hobbit village as wishful future for large parts of the population. Sure, the village is nice for a weekend trip or holiday, but face it: Which of the long term villagers would consider traveling to another continent, developing some more efficient plough or consider going to other planets?
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Re: 19th century World's Fairs created to hide real ancient high-tech buildings in the US and Europe?
On the north side of the plaza, straddling the River Spree, Speer planned to build the centrepiece of the new Berlin, an enormous domed building, the Volkshalle (people's hall), designed by Hitler himself. Had it been built, the Volkshalle would still be the largest enclosed space in the world today.

lol
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:bumps:

hidden civilization related?
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Hmmm... I'll watch.
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Re: 19th century World's Fairs created to hide real ancient high-tech buildings in the US and Europe?
enormous domed building, the Volkshalle
 Quoting: Uncle Albert 79565261


It was just the normal style for large buildings at that time. But you brought up an interesting topic as this architectural style is now in part associated with National Socialism in today's Germany due to successful marketing.

Related to this, the palace building of the Eastern German government, a typical glass facade 1970s construction: [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

To build it, the 1918 and 1940 war-damaged 15th century Hohenzollern Palace was blasted away: [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Now after the fortunately short temporary existence of Eastern Germany, the Eastern Germany government building was removed and the Hohenzollern Palace, now called Berlin Palace, completely rebuild in its old style.
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I have read so many things about Tartaria and watched so many videos I can't remember where I saw/read something, I just remember what it was. Hence my comments might derive from another source.

I did watch this series. What do you think of the idea that churches did not exist prior to the reset we are in now? The buildings were "repurposed" (after removal of certain parts of an energy capture system) into churches, temples and cathedrals?

There are quite a few of those buildings left if you go to Wiki and search for "cathedrals in _________fill in the blank with a country name. Those structures like all of the Tartarian buildings were built to last and built in ways I doubt we could copy today. Some are so elaborate and the interiors are jaws dropping in some of them. They also tended to be huge. Think how much they would cost to build now if we could even manage it.

The buildings, the obvious evidence of a catastrophe, the efforts to hide the fact that there was an empire named Tartaria*, missing years or too many years in our recent history, train loads of orphans, a flurry of world expositions and fairs... the whole thing is a fascinating mystery.

In response to your expressed doubt about similarly built structures all over the world, I don't think communism had anything to do with it. I think the similarity was there for two reasons. One, the Tartarian Empire was more widespread than the maps show and two, perhaps the buildings were similar because they were all built with specs designed to collect, store and use free energy and who wouldn't want that regardless of cultural differences?

*The spell checker doesn't recognize it either and red lined it!
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Whoops, I forgot to see if I was still logged in so I showed up as an anon coward. I posted the one above in case you wish to reply OP.
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What do you think of the idea that churches did not exist prior to the reset we are in now?

There are quite a few of those buildings left if you go to Wiki and search for "cathedrals in _________fill in the blank with a country name. Those structures like all of the Tartarian buildings were built to last and built in ways I doubt we could copy today. Some are so elaborate and the interiors are jaws dropping in some of them. They also tended to be huge. Think how much they would cost to build now if we could even manage it.
 Quoting: Beware the Stobor


With churches you mean those built mostly around 750 years ago in Europe? Those famous gothic cathedrals, but also the small churches you find in the center of evert old city in Europe?

The gothic cathedrals are still a mystery as they appeared out of nothing. It's like switching from horses to self driving electric cars without any transition in between. They were built without construction plans according to historians. How they calculated or tested the required dimension of the thin arches and columns remains unknown.

That most likely matches the history of the World's Fair Buildings. But their style with thin columns and pointed parabolic arches differs from the Greco-Roman constructions used for the World's Fairs with their massive walls and simple circular arches. With that, the cathedrals appear to be part of something different. Could be that they originally were designed for some different spiritual gatherings of the public than those they were later used for.

This recent documentary by Fehmi Krasniqi about the Pyramids also discusses the cathedrals and suggests they were build from concrete blocks like it has been shown for the pyramids by Davidovits and Barsoum some years ago. But that doesn't solve the mystery about their architects and engineers.


But the concrete construction technology imitating huge monolithic block walls is an interesting idea as bridge between the two extremes of plaster on frame construction and natural hewn stone.

About my communism comment: I don't have a problem with the existence of an ancient global culture, if it is named Tartaria, or other, but that doesn't mean we need to see that as reason to replace the current existing variety of different cultures on Earth and aim for a Hobbit village as great dream to live in for everyone.

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The video is now deleted.


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Gotcha.


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