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Zovalex
User ID: 80278243 12/19/2021 11:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sadly, when the OP returns to this thread, all of this will be deleted. Cant have his followers discovering he’s a fraud! ….and yes…. The OP is a GUY, not a woman. . “Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery. It gives you the illusion of freedom, makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor, while making an enemy of those who are trying to free you or open your eyes.” -Fiyah “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” -Johann Wolfgang von Goethe “You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.” -SOL |
Green Witch
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77497449 United States 12/19/2021 11:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The idea of the Rapture did not suddenly begin with Darby, although it was greatly increased in popularity with Darby. Even if the idea did start with Darby only about 200 years ago, so what? That would not therefore necessarily mean it is not true. Scripture itself says people will figure more out as the time grows near: "But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book until the time of the end; many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase." Daniel 12:4 But those that hurry to say Darby! Darby! Darby! only reveal their own eagerness simply not to believe it, simply to say it is not true, simply to dismiss it, and not to delve into it any further.. Prejudice. Pre-determined conclusion. It is not true and here's why. Ha! You never allowed or pursued any possibility otherwise. No surprise. You do not believe Jesus Christ will rescue those He says are the true Christians from the Wrath of God to come upon the unbelieving world. I did not expect that you would... now. Maybe later.. Who knows? . |
Green Witch
Pythonissam Vita User ID: 80856853 United States 12/19/2021 11:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The idea of the Rapture did not suddenly begin with Darby, although it was greatly increased in popularity with Darby. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77497449 Even if the idea did start with Darby only about 200 years ago, so what? That would not therefore necessarily mean it is not true. Scripture itself says people will figure more out as the time grows near: "But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book until the time of the end; many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase." Daniel 12:4 But those that hurry to say Darby! Darby! Darby! only reveal their own eagerness simply not to believe it, simply to say it is not true, simply to dismiss it, and not to delve into it any further.. Prejudice. Pre-determined conclusion. It is not true and here's why. Ha! You never allowed or pursued any possibility otherwise. No surprise. You do not believe Jesus Christ will rescue those He says are the true Christians from the Wrath of God to come upon the unbelieving world. I did not expect that you would... now. Maybe later.. Who knows? . The problem is that it's not biblical. “Secure the shadow, ere the substance fades.” |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77497449 United States 12/19/2021 11:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. That was one in a list. But anyway, so what? If aspects of the Apocalypse were not understood 2000 years ago, they cannot be today? You don't want to know now. You only want to refuse and oppose now. That's OK. Fine. Whatever. Maybe later... I've been filling Judethz's threads since his last name... and others are reading too... and I know many others have been getting it... . His Word will reach all those He intends it to. |
Cornfox
User ID: 81578834 United States 12/19/2021 11:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. That was one in a list. But anyway, so what? If aspects of the Apocalypse were not understood 2000 years ago, they cannot be today? You don't want to know now. You only want to refuse and oppose now. That's OK. Fine. Whatever. Maybe later... I've been filling Judethz's threads since his last name... and others are reading too... and I know many others have been getting it... . His Word will reach all those He intends it to. Whose word? Show us some canon text that details how you will escape the tribulation. If you knew the text you would know we are already in the tribulation. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77497449 United States 12/19/2021 11:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is no problem for me that you think it is not Biblical. Is the truth of anything biblical of any concern or problem for you? Not now... maybe later... I believe it to be most Biblical. I believe it to make perfect Biblical sense as part of the conclusion of The Plot. I believe in God. I believe in The Bible. . |
Green Witch
Pythonissam Vita User ID: 80856853 United States 12/19/2021 11:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is no problem for me that you think it is not Biblical. Is the truth of anything biblical of any concern or problem for you? Not now... maybe later... I believe it to be most Biblical. I believe it to make perfect Biblical sense as part of the conclusion of The Plot. I believe in God. I believe in The Bible. . Well since I'm not A christian I have no dog in the fight one way or another. But I have read your Bible. From cover to cover. “Secure the shadow, ere the substance fades.” |
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Zovalex
User ID: 80278243 12/19/2021 11:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no “maybe”. I’ve come to understand the Jesus as depicted in the bible is a fiction. It is a distortion of the real Jesus, completely divorced from the real man and his actual teachings. One cannot “unlearn” the Truth once seen. So there is no “maybe”. . My work is done here. While I realize you will pass from this life without experiencing your beloved Rapture, I would like to believe it’s true so I may wave the whole lot of you goodbye and good riddance. . “Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery. It gives you the illusion of freedom, makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor, while making an enemy of those who are trying to free you or open your eyes.” -Fiyah “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” -Johann Wolfgang von Goethe “You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.” -SOL |
Green Witch
Pythonissam Vita User ID: 80856853 United States 12/19/2021 11:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you don't believe in The Bible, and you do not believe in Jesus Christ, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77497449 then you most certainly won't believe that Jesus Christ will rescue away those that He counts worthy to escape from the horrors of The Revelation. That would be crazy, right? Just throwing this out there, but you do know that you were never meant to have a canonical gospel don't you? Read about a man named Marcion. Very interesting figure and quite worthy of your reading. He had some very interesting views about 'the bible' and the old testament 'God' “Secure the shadow, ere the substance fades.” |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81555966 United States 12/19/2021 11:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | :blackx: You don't like the subject yet you keep coming back, now why would that be? I'm in an optimistic mood this morning so I'm hoping that something inside of you is telling you that you had better not ignore the message that this series of threads is giving. It can be hard sometimes to accept that great trouble is coming upon this earth, particularly if you've lived a life when horror, grinding poverty and all manner of other misfortunes happen to people you don't know, several thousands of miles away. Yet it must be obvious to you that the 'good ole' US of A' ain't what it used to be. In fact that it's like a stage set and ruled by greed and perversion. One day very soon it will all come crashing down and all those who rejected or grew lukewarm towards the Lord will bitterly regret their foolish decision. You have still been blessed with a little time...don't waste it. Amen! |
Green Witch
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77497449 United States 12/19/2021 11:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well since I'm not A christian I have no dog in the fight one way or another. But I have read your Bible. From cover to cover. Quoting: Green Witch When I read through it once, I would not have presumed to barely have but a clue about The Book. I read it mostly straight through half-a-dozen times in several translations, before beginning more concentrated studies of one sort or another for another decade, before more casually but continuously reading it ever since, more or less frequently, for another 20 years and only now feel minimally capable and competent of grasping the most awesome magnificence of The Word of God The Bible - it really is! . |
Cornfox
User ID: 81578834 United States 12/19/2021 11:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you don't believe in The Bible, and you do not believe in Jesus Christ, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77497449 then you most certainly won't believe that Jesus Christ will rescue away those that He counts worthy to escape from the horrors of The Revelation. That would be crazy, right? Prove it. Show us any line anywhere in the book of revelation that makes you think you got it easy. Or is everything you know about the bible from christian TV? |
Green Witch
Pythonissam Vita User ID: 80856853 United States 12/19/2021 11:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well since I'm not A christian I have no dog in the fight one way or another. But I have read your Bible. From cover to cover. Quoting: Green Witch When I read through it once, I would not have presumed to barely have but a clue about The Book. I read it mostly straight through half-a-dozen times in several translations, before beginning more concentrated studies of one sort or another for another decade, before more casually but continuously reading it ever since, more or less frequently, for another 20 years and only now feel minimally capable and competent of grasping the most awesome magnificence of The Word of God The Bible - it really is! . Well if it gives your life meaning and purpose and it helps you to be a better person, and more importantly if you believe it, then I am happy for you. We all have to find our place and meaning in this life. “Secure the shadow, ere the substance fades.” |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77497449 United States 12/19/2021 11:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No doubt many of its self-selected representatives have done The Bible some disservice along the way, which is one reason why I never have had any faith in any men or men's clubs, denominations, or organizations and why I have never preached anything but that Jesus Christ is True and read the words of Jesus Christ for yourself. . |
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Green Witch
Pythonissam Vita User ID: 80856853 United States 12/20/2021 12:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've found nothing else in this world to believe in but Jesus Christ Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77497449 and I have found no reason not to believe in Jesus Christ. Do you have any good reason not to believe in Jesus Christ? . Would it surprise you to know that I believe in Jesus as well? “Secure the shadow, ere the substance fades.” |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77497449 United States 12/20/2021 12:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if you are fortunate enough to yet remain among the living when the man of peace arrives and the whole world marvels at his signs and wonders then you will want to make sure to refuse the mark... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] That's what I think. What do you think, Zovalex? |
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Zovalex
User ID: 80278243 12/20/2021 12:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ditto. Very much so, in fact. But as stated earlier, the Jesus of the bible is a fiction. . “Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery. It gives you the illusion of freedom, makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor, while making an enemy of those who are trying to free you or open your eyes.” -Fiyah “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” -Johann Wolfgang von Goethe “You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.” -SOL |
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Green Witch
Pythonissam Vita User ID: 80856853 United States 12/20/2021 12:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ditto. Very much so, in fact. But as stated earlier, the Jesus of the bible is a fiction. . Well since so much has been bastardized and mistranslated and outright made up and everything is so contradictory, you are left with little choice but to cherry pick. It comes down to what you want to believe in. I believe that historical Jesus existed. Not the demigod his followers turned him into. I believe he taught a message of hope and how to treat your fellow man and that nothing is impossible. A man who taught that you don't need religion or some 'priest class' to know God. It was a teaching so simple and powerful and scary that he was killed for it. “Secure the shadow, ere the substance fades.” |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77497449 United States 12/20/2021 12:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and to prove Himself and His Word. His life and death and very being in every detail is according to the Purpose of His Word. It can't get any bigger. We can't ever really grasp His Majesty from within our finite and limited skulls... I believe we are that generation that is alive to see the imminent Fulfillment of the Grande Finale. I really do believe that. I've heard it all my life, mostly from men that are mostly gone now, but I believe it more than ever and that we are just that much closer and I hope and pray that I live long enough to suddenly be seized and rescued away in an instant by Him. What a rare and privileged group from all of history that would be. I hope so. If not, I believe Him anyway. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77497449 United States 12/20/2021 12:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ditto. Very much so, in fact. But as stated earlier, the Jesus of the bible is a fiction. . Then why try to co-opt the Name of Jesus? Why another Jesus? What is your source, your authority, for your other Jesus? You say the Jesus of The Bible is not Good? Can you quote any such part to me or most certainly definitely not? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75803924 Canada 12/20/2021 12:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ditto. Very much so, in fact. But as stated earlier, the Jesus of the bible is a fiction. . Then why try to co-opt the Name of Jesus? Why another Jesus? What is your source, your authority, for your other Jesus? You say the Jesus of The Bible is not Good? Can you quote any such part to me or most certainly definitely not? You're a trinitarian.. you don't even believe in the Biblical Jesus yourself (who is not "the second member of the trinity"), so you're a hypocritical liar. You believe in another Jesus.. |
Zovalex
User ID: 80278243 12/20/2021 12:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ditto. Very much so, in fact. But as stated earlier, the Jesus of the bible is a fiction. . Then why try to co-opt the Name of Jesus? Why another Jesus? What is your source, your authority, for your other Jesus? You say the Jesus of The Bible is not Good? Can you quote any such part to me or most certainly definitely not? Therein lies the problem. You studied the bible and ONLY the bible. Open your Mind. Look around you. The sources and authorities for the REAL Jesus are out there. “Seek and you shall find.” . “Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery. It gives you the illusion of freedom, makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor, while making an enemy of those who are trying to free you or open your eyes.” -Fiyah “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” -Johann Wolfgang von Goethe “You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.” -SOL |