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Thread: ONE Gospel - FROM God - THRU Jesus - Taught by ALL of the Apostles - NOT Just Paul - Bible Study

Many folks claim that Paul had a different Gospel then the other Apostles.

Some folks even claim there's 4 or 6 different Gospels.

According to that "method" - there's about 20 different Gospels.

I'm sticking with ONE Gospel - many different names.
All the below info is from the KJV.

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The simple phrase "the gospel" - appears 54 times in 51 verses - that's over half of all the uses of the word.

-Paul uses the simple phrase 37 times in Romans through Philemon.



"gospel of the kingdom" occurs 4 times in 4 verses in the KJV.

"gospel of God" occurs 7 times in 7 verses in the KJV.

"gospel of Christ" occurs 11 times in 11 verses in the KJV.

10 other "gospel of"

- gospel of Jesus Christ
- gospel of the grace of God
- gospel of his Son
- gospel of peace - 2 times
- gospel of the uncircumcision
- gospel of the circumcision
- gospel of your salvation
- gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ
- gospel of the blessed God

18 various "_____ gospel" (words other than 'the")

- this gospel - 3 times
- my gospel - 3 times
- Christ's gospel
- our gospel - 3 times
- glorious gospel - 2 times
- another gospel - 2 times
- other gospel - 2 times
- that gospel
- everlasting gospel

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Below are all the verses from Paul's letters that use the word 'gospel'. Notice ALL the different phrases.

Many folks claim that since Paul said "my Gospel" - that he had a different Gospel.

YET Paul had several "phrases" for the Gospel.

The word "gospel" occurs 80 times in 74 verses in between Acts and Philemon in the KJV.

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Acts 8:25 And they, when they had testified and preached the word of the Lord, returned to Jerusalem, and preached the gospel in many villages of the Samaritans.

Acts 14:7 And there they preached the gospel.

Acts 14:21 And when they had preached the gospel to that city, and had taught many, they returned again to Lystra, and to Iconium, and Antioch,

Acts 15:7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.

Acts 16:10 And after he had seen the vision, immediately we endeavoured to go into Macedonia, assuredly gathering that the Lord had called us for to preach the gospel unto them.

Acts 20:24 But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.

Romans 1:1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,

Romans 1:9 For God is my witness, whom I serve with my spirit in the gospel of his Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers;

Romans 1:15 So, as much as in me is, I am ready to preach the gospel to you that are at Rome also.

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the nope first, and also to the Greek.

Romans 2:16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

Romans 10:15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

Romans 10:16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?

Romans 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.

Romans 15:16 That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost.

Romans 15:19 Through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have fully preached the gospel of Christ.

Romans 15:20 Yea, so have I strived to preach the gospel, not where Christ was named, lest I should build upon another man's foundation:

Romans 15:29 And I am sure that, when I come unto you, I shall come in the fulness of the blessing of the gospel of Christ.

Romans 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,

1 Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.

1 Corinthians 4:15 For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.

1 Corinthians 9:12 If others be partakers of this power over you, are not we rather? Nevertheless we have not used this power; but suffer all things, lest we should hinder the gospel of Christ.

1 Corinthians 9:14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.

1 Corinthians 9:16 For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!

1 Corinthians 9:17 For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.

1 Corinthians 9:18 What is my reward then? Verily that, when I preach the gospel, I may make the gospel of Christ without charge, that I abuse not my power in the gospel.

1 Corinthians 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

2 Corinthians 2:12 Furthermore, when I came to Troas to preach Christ's gospel, and a door was opened unto me of the Lord,

2 Corinthians 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

2 Corinthians 8:18 And we have sent with him the brother, whose praise is in the gospel throughout all the churches;

2 Corinthians 9:13 Whiles by the experiment of this ministration they glorify God for your professed subjection unto the gospel of Christ, and for your liberal distribution unto them, and unto all men;

2 Corinthians 10:14 For we stretch not ourselves beyond our measure, as though we reached not unto you: for we are come as far as to you also in preaching the gospel of Christ:

2 Corinthians 10:16 To preach the gospel in the regions beyond you, and not to boast in another man's line of things made ready to our hand.

2 Corinthians 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

2 Corinthians 11:7 Have I committed an offence in abasing myself that ye might be exalted, because I have preached to you the gospel of God freely?

Galatians 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

Galatians 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

Galatians 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.

Galatians 2:2 And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to them which were of reputation, lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vain.

Galatians 2:5 To whom we gave place by subjection, no, not for an hour; that the truth of the gospel might continue with you.

Galatians 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;

Galatians 2:14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a nope, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Hebrews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Hebrews?

Galatians 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

Galatians 4:13 Ye know how through infirmity of the flesh I preached the gospel unto you at the first.

Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Ephesians 3:6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

Ephesians 6:15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

Ephesians 6:19 And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,

Philippians 1:5 For your fellowship in the gospel from the first day until now;

Philippians 1:7 Even as it is meet for me to think this of you all, because I have you in my heart; inasmuch as both in my bonds, and in the defence and confirmation of the gospel, ye all are partakers of my grace.

Philippians 1:12 But I would ye should understand, brethren, that the things which happened unto me have fallen out rather unto the furtherance of the gospel;

Philippians 1:17 But the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel.

Philippians 1:27 Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ: that whether I come and see you, or else be absent, I may hear of your affairs, that ye stand fast in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel;

Philippians 2:22 But ye know the proof of him, that, as a son with the father, he hath served with me in the gospel.

Philippians 4:3 And I intreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which laboured with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellowlabourers, whose names are in the book of life.

Philippians 4:15 Now ye Philippians know also, that in the beginning of the gospel, when I departed from Macedonia, no church communicated with me as concerning giving and receiving, but ye only.

Colossians 1:5 For the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, whereof ye heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel;

Colossians 1:23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

1 Thessalonians 1:5 For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake.

1 Thessalonians 2:2 But even after that we had suffered before, and were shamefully entreated, as ye know, at Philippi, we were bold in our God to speak unto you the gospel of God with much contention.

1 Thessalonians 2:4 But as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which trieth our hearts.

1 Thessalonians 2:8 So being affectionately desirous of you, we were willing to have imparted unto you, not the gospel of God only, but also our own souls, because ye were dear unto us.

1 Thessalonians 2:9 For ye remember, brethren, our labour and travail: for labouring night and day, because we would not be chargeable unto any of you, we preached unto you the gospel of God.

1 Thessalonians 3:2 And sent Timotheus, our brother, and minister of God, and our fellowlabourer in the gospel of Christ, to establish you, and to comfort you concerning your faith:

2 Thessalonians 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

2 Thessalonians 2:14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

1 Timothy 1:11 According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust.

2 Timothy 1:8 Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God;

2 Timothy 1:10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:

2 Timothy 2:8 Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:

Philemon 1:13 Whom I would have retained with me, that in thy stead he might have ministered unto me in the bonds of the gospel:

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4 Gospels, yup.

Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.

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The Gospel - meaning ONE

The Gospel - according to - Matthew
The Gospel - according to - Mark
The Gospel - according to - Luke
The Gospel - according to - John

WHERE is Paul's "gospel"?

The plural word "gospels" is NEVER used in the KJV.

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The word "gospel" occurs 101 times in 95 verses in the KJV - all in the New Testament.

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The phrase "the gospel" occurs 83 times in 77 verses in the KJV - all in the New Testament.

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The phrase "gospel of" occurs 32 times in 31 verses in the KJV.

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The phrase "the gospel of" occurs 29 times in 28 verses in the KJV.

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Acts 14 is the first mention of Paul preaching a "Gospel".

The verse says THE Gospel - not "his Gospel".

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Acts 14

1 And it came to pass in Iconium, that they went both together into the synagogue of the Hebrews, and so spake, that a great multitude both of the Hebrews and also of the Greeks believed.

2 But the unbelieving Hebrews stirred up the Gentiles, and made their minds evil affected against the brethren.

3 Long time therefore abode they speaking boldly in the Lord, which gave testimony unto the word of his grace, and granted signs and wonders to be done by their hands.

4 But the multitude of the city was divided: and part held with the Hebrews, and part with the apostles.

5 And when there was an assault made both of the Gentiles, and also of the Hebrews with their rulers, to use them despitefully, and to stone them,

6 They were ware of it, and fled unto Lystra and Derbe, cities of Lycaonia, and unto the region that lieth round about:

7 And there they preached the gospel.


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The problem of Bible "study" is those doing the studying are in no capacity to Understand.

St. Paul writes to Timothy in 2nd Timothy 2:1-15 about who is fit to Preach-Teach-Minister. The keynote verses are 6 & 7:
6The husbandman that laboureth must be first partaker of the fruits.
7Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things.

Paul is advising that any who are called to Minister etc, "Ought be Born-Again". IE Ezekiel 36:26-27 Born-Again.

This ties to verse 15, the famous "Study Unto The Approval of God" which is aimed at those in ministry.
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.


So, what I'm saying is that until we're Ezekiel 36:26-27 Born-Again, we have no Guidance or Witness from God The Holy Spirit, and no New Heart Of Father's Flesh. Without Being so Born-Again, there is NO Understanding. Here is what God Says HE Will DO For HIS People: from Ezekiel ch 36

26A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

27And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.


More in next post...
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So... the effort to Study and Understand, as practiced and sought by those unable to directly Answer Father's Call...

How can anything but failure be the result? Failure and confusion...

Pretty plain in Matt 13 where The Apostles ask Jesus "Why do you always Teach Using Parables?" vs 10, right after HE Gave the parable of The Sower.

11He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

12For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.

13Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

14And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

15For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.


What Jesus IS Saying here (hear?) is that those seeking understanding by any means other than their Heart, are NOT Whom HE IS Concerned With.

All the "study" in the world will NOT Enable your Understanding.

There's more to this Witness in Matt 16:13-20 where Jesus Asks The Apostles "WHO do you say I Am?" Only Peter KNOWS: "Thou Art The Christ! Son of The Living God!" Jesus Says "Only MY Father could have Put That Knowledge Upon Your Heart" and Instructs them not to tell anyone HE IS The Christ...


Want more Witness? Matt 22:1-14 where Jesus Tells Us Father's Purpose. The Basic Why HE Sent HIM To Redeem US and Enable Us To Answer HIS Call. It's another parable... Concluding in vs 14 with: "For Many Were Called, But Few Are Chosen!"

The vs 14 Witness is that Few Will Come Unto The Father in surrender and submission, making their Leap of Faith and thereby Being Ezekiel 36 Born-Again...


Everything of Father and Jesus is a matter of Heart.
Do you KNOW WHO HE IS?
If so, That's Because Father Chose YOU and Called YOU To Come Unto HIM and Be Born-Again.


The Good News is that Father-God Wants us to Abide With HIM Now and Forever, KNOWING Us Personally and Directly.

Everything is about your Trusting HIM With All You Are and Ever Will Be, and then Taking Action to Tell HIM So.

Unable to Take Action?
Then your Faith (not being ablle to manifest for God) without that work, is dead!
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I discount all Paul's books.

Not really understanding this thread . Is it just word play and smantics?
1. “You can’t fire a cannon, from a canoe!”
2. “Strength is gained in the range it is trained.”
3. “If it doesn’t swim, run, or fly, or isn’t green and grow in the ground, don’t eat it.”
4. “Know that you have complete control over what you put in your mouth. No one ever ate anything by accident.”
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To get to the point of my replies here.

I was almost 20yrs Ezk 36 Born-Again when I was Given an Anointment and Told To Witness. Never "studied" The Bible; I had Constant Conscious Contact With The Father and Daily Guidance from HIS Holy Spirit Within me.

When I began posting my witness on the internet I learned Christians have all sorts of games they play, especially Prove It In The Word. So, God Guided me in the Scriptures and my writing/posting.

Since 2004, I have posted my witness. I was led to Ezekiel 36:26-27 in response to a challenge to find proof of Born-Again in the OT. Searchable Bible and my entering words that described my Born-Again life and there it was...


If there's anything to "study" it is what God Means To You and then Taking Action to Answer HIS Call if you are so moved.


These ARE The Final Days. If you would BE HIS; NOW Is The Time To Tell HIM.

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I discount all Paul's books.

Not really understanding this thread . Is it just word play and smantics?
 Quoting: Florida Man


The Witness is within St. Paul's writings.

In Hebrews 12 verses 5-10, Paul writes that those who will not accept Father's Guidance and Chastisement are "Bastards, Not Sons".

HIS Witness there relates to the failure to surrender self and self will Unto The Father; NOT Having made the Leap Of Fath, thereby Not Being Born-Again.


All the bullshit about St. Paul is spouted by those themselve NOT Ezk 36 Born-Again.


The Bible is an adjunct to THE WAY Unto The Father, which Christ Jesus Enabled on calvary. The Scriptures can strengthen your heart, but to Become HIS, You Must Take Action!

There is not formula for Coming Unto The Father. Must be From The Heart, but everyone's heart and understanding is not identical... No other person can "bring you Unto The Father"
There is no surrendering unto Jesus, or being Born-Again merely from Accepting HIM.

Jesus Redeemed Us whether you accept HIM or not. HE IS WHO HE IS, whether you accept HIM or not...

Jesus Serves HIS Father, whether you accept that or not.



There are no Plain Truths in The Bible which are sufficient to cause one to Come Unto The Father. Yet, once you have Been Born-Again, and Dwell With God The Holy Spirit, you see the whole Book Proclaims Christ!

There is no Knowing until you KNOW. ONLY By Reationship With Father are we Given To KNOW and DO HIS Will.

Jesus Is ALL About Serving HIS Father's Will.
So too are we, once Born-Again.

HIS Holy Spirit Within you, Gives Witness when you enconter a person or their writings who is also Born-Again.

Were you Born-Again, you would KNOW St. Paul is your Brother In Christ.
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Lester..

The topic is about the word "Gospel" as used in the KJV Bible.

You are seriously off-topic.
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You are quoting the King James Version! So apparently there are versions. Damn. I guess other versions of the bible tales do display various translation of copies of translations of mostly unknown authored stories. Paul's writings are mostly confirmed. Who wrote Matthew,Mark,Luke and John are mostly a mystery. The bible says so. Those names are attributed to them but no conclusive evidence. So you are studying claims of tales by mostly unknown authors...and you study that. Ok.
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There's no 'perfect' translation of the Bible manuscripts.

The KJV is one of the best ones though.

This page has all the KJV verses with the word 'Gospel' in them.

On the right side of the page, there's a section which shows how many times the word appears in other translations.

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I discount all Paul's books.

Not really understanding this thread . Is it just word play and smantics?
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Lester..

The topic is about the word "Gospel" as used in the KJV Bible.

You are seriously off-topic.
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Au contraire, mon amis...

The POINT Of The Gospel is to Bring Awareness that Father-God has Chosen To KNOW Us Personally and Directly.

To shape your "discussion" along the lines you have chosen is to completely disregard Father's Purpose In Sending HIS Son and to admit to much confusion on The Purpose Within THE WORD.

We are Told that Christ Jesus IS The Word Become Flesh.

You are pursuing a point of semantics rather than Revealed Truth. Perhaps you are a divinity school student?

This topic is one that belongs within the academic world, which is so far alienated from God as to be totally at odds with 2nd Timothy 2:6-7. Having NO relationship with Father-God there is no way to "Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things."


St. John, in First Epistle ch2 vs 20 says to the other Born-Agains he is addressing: "But you Have An Unction From The Holy One and KNOW All Things." More again in vs 27....


Having a divinity degree or denominational credentials of authority means Nothing in the Laodicean church age.

Jesus Says "better not to have been born than to lead one of MY Innocents astray". By innocents, HE Means followers, believers, seekers etc. It's the professional man of religion that, having no Knowledge Of God, professes falsely; thereby leading HIS Innocents astray...

Your topic is exactly what I am addressing.

The topic is immaterial.
I won't bother you anymore here.
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You are seriously off-topic.
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Au contraire, mon amis...

The POINT Of The Gospel is to Bring Awareness that Father-God has Chosen To KNOW Us Personally and Directly.

To shape your "discussion" along the lines you have chosen is to completely disregard Father's Purpose In Sending HIS Son and to admit to much confusion on The Purpose Within THE WORD.

We are Told that Christ Jesus IS The Word Become Flesh.

You are pursuing a point of semantics rather than Revealed Truth. Perhaps you are a divinity school student?

This topic is one that belongs within the academic world, which is so far alienated from God as to be totally at odds with 2nd Timothy 2:6-7.

Having NO relationship with Father-God there is no way to "Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things."
 Quoting: Lester

I disagree with Jesus being the literal "word that becane flesh" for the simple fact that there were things Jesus didn't know. The Book of Revelation proves such.

John was merely saying anything possible to glorify Jesus.

I am a student of Father God, Jesus and what they said as recorded in scripture.

Doctrines like "Paul's Gospel is for Gentiles only" are clearly false. This topic was to show the scriptural evidence againts that false doctrine.

There's One Gospel with many different "names".

Modern churches have strayed from God with their various doctrines, most of which ignore vast amounts of scripture.

This is why I do various Bible Study topics.

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The problem of Bible "study" is those doing the studying are in no capacity to Understand.

St. Paul writes to Timothy in 2nd Timothy 2:1-15 about who is fit to Preach-Teach-Minister. The keynote verses are 6 & 7:

6 The husbandman that laboureth must be first partaker of the fruits.

7 Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things.
 Quoting: Lester

I disagree with that statement.

It presumes that God would HIDE understanding from those who are Seeking Him.

We are told to Seek God - and one of the BEST ways is to read scripture. Most of scripture is not difficult to understand.

I believe that Paul exhorts ALL to "study to show thyself approved".

2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God,
a workman that needeth not to be ashamed,
rightly dividing the word of truth.


2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given
by inspiration of God
,
and is profitable for doctrine,
for reproof, for correction,
for instruction in righteousness:


The vast majority of pastors, priests and theologians don't deliberately mislead / teach false doctrines.

But the fact remains that many of them don't do the research required.

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Originally there was only 1 gospel composed by Jesus' followers but has been lost.....

Or to put it more accurately.....it was thrown away and forgotten about.....


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Originally there was only 1 gospel composed by Jesus' followers but has been lost.....

Or to put it more accurately.....it was thrown away and forgotten about.....

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That is speculation.
It sounds more like Gnostic / Thomas writings.

Several early writings had quotes from the Gospels..

Didache

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Early theologians

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.....

I don't know where I god this list from...

---AD 96 Clement Bishop of Rome quotes / refers to 11 books used for the New Testament including Matthew, Mark and Luke.

---AD 108 Ignatius Bishop of Antioch quotes / refers to 24 books used for the New Testament including all 4 Gospels.

---AD 110 Polycarp Bishop of Smyrna quotes / refers to 18 books used for the New Testament including all 4 Gospels.

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Sounds like a grace message but not sure since he attaches other works to the Gospel of Grace. Actually Eph 2:8-9 IS the Gospel. Grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone is ALL that is required for salvation. The rest are related to discipleship and relationship with Christ but these do not save us. Matt 7:21-22 is clear about people that have a form of Godliness but have no saving faith.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34197783

1. 'Gospel of Grace'? Pauline foolishness of a 'seperate gospel'.

There's either ONE Gospel - or MANY gospels.


Thread: One Gospel - Or Multiple Gospels - KJV Bible Study

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2. You have to BELIEVE before you can have Faith.

Belief is NOT a 'work'.


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3. Paul didn't invent the idea of 'Grace'. It existed since the beginning.

Thread: Grace - Biblical Context and Usage - A Deeper Look - Bible Study

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4. Paul taught the SAME things as Jesus and the Apostles. 'Adjustments' were made as shown at the Council of Jerusalem in the middle of Acts.

Thread: The Gospel - Basic Teachings of Jesus (amd Paul) for Salvation - KJV Bible Study

Thread: ONE Gospel - FROM God - THRU Jesus - Taught by ALL of the Apostles - NOT Just Paul - Bible Study

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5. Repentence of sin isn't a 'work' either. It's been a requirement since the beginning.

Paul taught repentence - AND the Ten Commandments.


Thread: Paul Taught Repentance - Gospel - KJV Bible Study

Thread: To Understand Paul - His Letters Don't Tell Us All of What He Originally Preached - Bible Study

Thread: Paul Taught the 10 Commandments - Gospel - Bible Study

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6. Repentence isn't necessary? It's always been necessary.

A. What saved 'the thief on the cross'?

He admitted that his sins deserved punishment.

B. Repenting is so important that Jesus put it into 'the Lord's Prayer' with...

...'forgive us our trespasses' (sins)

Thread: The Lord's Prayer - The ONLY Prayer Given the Apostles - Declares the Father as Sovereign - KJV Bible Study
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In the original Gnostic Gospels, Jesus gave the instruction that each of the Twelve Disciples are supposed to find 3 others, and spread the gospel in groups of Four. The authorities translated this into Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John to satisfy the requirement allegorically. And it padded everything out to make up for unwanted content. Jesus also referred to the leader of the Church as the "Angel", which is why Revelation refers to the Angels of the Churches.
That which the World values highly, will become as Dust.
That which is worthless to the World, shines brighter than Gold.
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And unfortunately you have learned very little of the Grace of God.

Why do you pervert the Gospel of Jesus Christ with your man made rules?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432


There's only ONE Gospel that gets preached....

Revelation 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

.....

Jesus isn't the 'author' of Salvation.

The Father SENT Jesus and TOLD Him what to say.

John 12:49-50 & Revelation 1:1

49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.


Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

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Thread: Hebrews 12:2 Embellishes Jesus as "Author" - Yet the Plan for Salvation is Father God's - Bible Study
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And unfortunately you have learned very little of the Grace of God.

Why do you pervert the Gospel of Jesus Christ with your man made rules?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432


There's only ONE Gospel that gets preached....
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD



Hogwash.
And piss poor scholarship.

You clearly do not understand what the word 'gospel' means.

From the Greek word euaggelion, it means simply 'good tidings' or 'good news'.

The Lord Jesus Christ preached the Gospel of the Kingdom.
[see Matthew 4:23 and Matthew 10:5-7]
The Gospel of the Kingdom has to do with the person of the Messiah, the coming King and was addressed to Israel ONLY.


The Gospel of God's Grace was preached primarily by the Apostle Paul. [see Acts 15:11, Acts 20:24, Ephesians 3:1-6] This Gospel is addressed to all sinners without distinction, offering to them a Savior .. not a King and a Kingdom. You see how these first two differ?
This is the Gospel we must believe today in order to be saved.


Another Gospel, which is really no gospel at all.
This is the false gospel which you preach.
[See 2 Corinthians 11:3-4 and Galatians 1:6-7]
It is preached by false prophets like you .. adding works and religious ritualism to create a different gospel. [See Galatians 1:8 and 2:16, 2 John 1:10-11]


The Everlasting Gospel is the message of Revelation 14 and is addressed to the endtimes earth dwellers just before God's Wrath is poured out.
The Everlasting Gospel is precisely this: 'Fear God and give Glory to Him: For the hour of His Judgement is come'

The Everlasting Gospel is neither the Gospel of Grace nor the Gospel of the Kingdom, but rather the good news that God is about to establish His sovereignty over the world.



How can one preach the death, burial and resurrection of Christ BEFORE IT HAPPENS? Jesus never preached the Gospel of the Grace of God. He preached the Gospel of the King and His Kingdom are AT HAND ... just like John the Baptist.
You don't just lump all Gospels together into ONE. That is poor biblical scholarship.
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You don't just lump all Gospels together into ONE. That is poor biblical scholarship.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432

0. John 3:16 says 'For God so loved the WORLD'...NOT just the Hebrews.


1. Jesus was sent to ALL - "Lost sheep of Israel" came first. The Samaritans he spent several days with were NOT "under the law".

Luke 2 31 Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people;

32 A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel.



2. Jesus sent the Apostles to the "entire world".
YOU KNOW THE VERSES.

Thread: The Travels of the Apostles - Bible Study Christian History


3. Paul was ALSO SENT to EVERYONE.

Acts 9 (Jesus talking to Ananias)

15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy
way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to
bear my name before
the Gentiles,
and kings,
and the children of Israel:


16 For I will shew him how great things
he must suffer for my name's sake.


...

Acts 22:14 And he said, The God of our fathers
hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest
know his will, and see that Just One, and
shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.
15 For thou shalt be his witness unto all
men
of what thou hast seen and heard.



4. Paul's travels, as documented in the (KJV) Book of Acts, show us that EVERYWHERE Paul went - he went to the synagogues FIRST.
This also proves that Paul had the same Gospel as the other Apostles, who were to preach "to the world".

Damascus Acts 9:20
Salamis Acts 13:5
Antioch Acts 13:14
Iconium Acts 14:1
Thessalonica Acts 17:1
Berea Acts 17:10
Athens Acts 17:16
Corinth Acts 18:4
Ephesus Acts 18:19

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You don't just lump all Gospels together into ONE. That is poor biblical scholarship.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432

0. John 3:16 says 'For God so loved the WORLD'...NOT just the Hebrews.


1. Jesus was sent to ALL - "Lost sheep of Israel" came first. The Samaritans he spent several days with were NOT "under the law".

Luke 2 31 Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people;

32 A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel.



2. Jesus sent the Apostles to the "entire world".
YOU KNOW THE VERSES.


3. Paul was ALSO SENT to EVERYONE.

Acts 9 (Jesus talking to Ananias)

15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy
way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to
bear my name before
the Gentiles,
and kings,
and the children of Israel:


16 For I will shew him how great things
he must suffer for my name's sake.


...

Acts 22:14 And he said, The God of our fathers
hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest
know his will, and see that Just One, and
shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.
15 For thou shalt be his witness unto all
men
of what thou hast seen and heard.



4. Paul's travels, as documented in the (KJV) Book of Acts, show us that EVERYWHERE Paul went - he went to the synagogues FIRST.
This also proves that Paul had the same Gospel as the other Apostles, who were to preach "to the world".

Damascus Acts 9:20
Salamis Acts 13:5
Antioch Acts 13:14
Iconium Acts 14:1
Thessalonica Acts 17:1
Berea Acts 17:10
Athens Acts 17:16
Corinth Acts 18:4
Ephesus Acts 18:19
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD



Answer this then:
How can one preach the death, burial and resurrection of Christ BEFORE IT HAPPENS? Jesus never preached the Gospel of the Grace of God. He preached the Gospel of the King and His Kingdom are AT HAND ... just like John the Baptist.
You don't just lump all Gospels together into ONE. That is poor biblical scholarship.
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You don't just lump all Gospels together into ONE. That is poor biblical scholarship.
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1. Jesus was sent to ALL - "Lost sheep of Israel" came first.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD



WRONG. Israel ONLY.

Matthew 15:24
"But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

Romans 15:8
"Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:"
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You don't just lump all Gospels together into ONE. That is poor biblical scholarship.
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1. Jesus was sent to ALL - "Lost sheep of Israel" came first.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

WRONG. Israel ONLY.

Matthew 15:24 "But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

Romans 15:8 "Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:"
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Wrong? dumbass

Scripture doesn't LIE.

1. Jesus sent the Apostles to ALL the world / nations to teach what He had taught them.

2. These verses....

Luke 2:

31 Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people;

32 A light to lighten the Gentiles,

and the glory of thy people Israel.


3. Jesus refused NO one. And neither did the Apostles.

Jesus didn't refuse Gentiles. SAME Gospel to the Gentiles as to the Hebrews.

...the Centurian
...the Caananite woman / "bread crumbs from the table"
...the Samaritans

Acts 8 - Andrew and the Ethiopian

Acts 10 - Peter and Cornelius

Thread: The Travels of the Apostles - Bible Study Christian History

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Answer this then:
How can one preach the death, burial and resurrection of Christ BEFORE IT HAPPENS? Jesus never preached the Gospel of the Grace of God. He preached the Gospel of the King and His Kingdom are AT HAND ... just like John the Baptist.
You don't just lump all Gospels together into ONE. That is poor biblical scholarship.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432


For the simple FACT that Jesus didn't SEND them out TO the nations / world until AFTER He had been resurrected.

Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them....

Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

Luke 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

Acts 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
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You don't just lump all Gospels together into ONE. That is poor biblical scholarship.
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1. Jesus was sent to ALL - "Lost sheep of Israel" came first.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

WRONG. Israel ONLY.

Matthew 15:24 "But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

Romans 15:8 "Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432

Wrong? dumbass

Scripture doesn't LIE.

1. Jesus sent the Apostles to ALL the world / nations to teach what He had taught them.

2. These verses....

Luke 2:

31 Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people;

32 A light to lighten the Gentiles,

and the glory of thy people Israel.


3. Jesus refused NO one. And neither did the Apostles.

Jesus didn't refuse Gentiles. SAME Gospel to the Gentiles as to the Hebrews.

...the Centurian
...the Caananite woman / "bread crumbs from the table"
...the Samaritans

Acts 8 - Andrew and the Ethiopian

Acts 10 - Peter and Cornelius
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD



You said the SAME GOSPEL has always been preached ... from Abraham to today. ONE GOSPEL.

That is wrong. That is a lie.

There have been other Gospels in other times.

For example, the Gospel of the Kingdom was preached by Jesus Christ in the flesh .. He could not have preached death, burial and resurrection for it had not yet happened.

Besides, the Apostles did not understand death, burial and resurrection before it happened:

Luke 18:31-34
"Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished.
For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on: And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again.
And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken."

Not until Paul was taught the Gospel of the Grace of God by the Risen Christ Himself did the Gospel message change.

Romans 2:16
"In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel."

Romans 16:25
"Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,"

2Timothy 2:8
"Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel"


How does it feel to be wrong and be schooled by the Word of God (Jesus Christ)????
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You said the SAME GOSPEL has always been preached ... from Abraham to today. ONE GOSPEL.
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Gospel 'from Abraham'????

Show me where I said any such thing.

Jesus was TOLD the Gospel by the Father.

The Father merely talked about reconciling the Gentiles back to Himself at some future time.

Jesus brought the plan from the Father.

The word "gentiles" occurs 30 times in 30 verses in the Old Testament in the KJV.

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Wrong? dumbass

Scripture doesn't LIE.

1. Jesus sent the Apostles to ALL the world / nations to teach what He had taught them.

2. These verses....

Luke 2:

31 Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people;

32 A light to lighten the Gentiles,

and the glory of thy people Israel.


3. Jesus refused NO one. And neither did the Apostles.

Jesus didn't refuse Gentiles. SAME Gospel to the Gentiles as to the Hebrews.

...the Centurian
...the Caananite woman / "bread crumbs from the table"
...the Samaritans

Acts 8 - Andrew and the Ethiopian

Acts 10 - Peter and Cornelius
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

There have been other Gospels in other times.
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Says who? You 'opinion' is wrong.

I bet you haven't even bothered to read the scriptural evidence I presented. All you're doing is defending your FALSE Pauline doctrine.
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You clearly do not understand what the word 'gospel' means.

From the Greek word euaggelion, it means simply 'good tidings' or 'good news'.
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Really?

THE Gospel is God's plan for Salvation for ALL who are either 'chosen' OR decide to CHOOSE to Believe.

Father God speaks of reconciling the Gentiles back to Himself several times in the Old Testament. Jesus BROUGHT the 'plan' to Earth.

Thread: Elect / Chosen - AND Those Who CHOOSE to Believe - Bible Study

Why did Paul constantly return to Jerusalem? Part of the reason was to compare notes. He taught the SAME Gospel as the others.

Thread: The Gospel - Basic Teachings of Jesus (amd Paul) for Salvation - KJV Bible Study
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