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I do not follow dead people.
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I only follow them to avoid their mistakes
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exactly, thats the only original purpose of intelligence: to avoid or get rid of flaws, misconceptions.
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No mortal or society of mortals can reinvent Reality. It has been there long before and long after everybody will be gone.
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You'd be surprised then at how all of reality has really been hijacked and the vile things they are doing with that control.
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The trouble with AI science is that it does prove that our thoughts can be mechanized, broken down into logical particles as well, and imitated and replaced.
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Not really, unless your IQ is less than 70.
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The AI is still quite childlike, but computers have always acted like idiot savants, good at mathematics and some games.

Language skills, vision and speech recognition are getting better.
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not better, only faster. Not the same!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

With finesse and brute force the imitation will be good enough to replace human agency some day. It will only be perfect if machines program other machines. That i think is still a longer path.
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Yes, the tech has been especially thorough with destroying the original environment humans depend on wiht their lives.
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Technology and science can be used to exploit, but also to repair. Maybe both at the same time, see Forestry compared to (other) forms of agriculture.
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You keep missing my point, if artificial it destroys the original environment, much more complex than any models. It took the Nature billions of years yet some humans arrogance makes them believe they can fake it in one life span.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

In Forestry you even think in longer time spans than a single life, i can't think of any kind of that planning outside of Theology (like asking people to pray for you in the next century).

Say the destruction stopped tomorrow, you still have to choose how to restore nature, using technology such as AI etc.
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Nature restores itself duh

Natural laws win over societal group delusions every time, every artificial civilization learnt the hard way:


„See if all the worms on this planet right now, all of them die, in about 12 to 18 months, all life on this planet would cease.
Suppose all the insects die today, in something like 2 and a half to 4 years time, all life will cease.
But if all the human beings die, the planet will flourish.“
(Sadhguru)
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I only follow them to avoid their mistakes
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


exactly, thats the only original purpose of intelligence: to avoid or get rid of flaws, misconceptions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454


No mortal or society of mortals can reinvent Reality. It has been there long before and long after everybody will be gone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454




You'd be surprised then at how all of reality has really been hijacked and the vile things they are doing with that control.
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Projecting on to Reality is not really manipulating other than with sheeple.
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exactly, thats the only original purpose of intelligence: to avoid or get rid of flaws, misconceptions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454


No mortal or society of mortals can reinvent Reality. It has been there long before and long after everybody will be gone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454




You'd be surprised then at how all of reality has really been hijacked and the vile things they are doing with that control.
 Quoting: PSA



Projecting on to Reality is not really manipulating other than with sheeple.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454


Illusion needs the real background, unlike the background which does not need the illusionists.
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Not really, unless your IQ is less than 70.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

The AI is still quite childlike, but computers have always acted like idiot savants, good at mathematics and some games.

Language skills, vision and speech recognition are getting better.
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


not better, only faster. Not the same!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

With finesse and brute force the imitation will be good enough to replace human agency some day. It will only be perfect if machines program other machines. That i think is still a longer path.
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I am all for to leave the routine to the machines.
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Technology and science can be used to exploit, but also to repair. Maybe both at the same time, see Forestry compared to (other) forms of agriculture.
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


You keep missing my point, if artificial it destroys the original environment, much more complex than any models. It took the Nature billions of years yet some humans arrogance makes them believe they can fake it in one life span.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

In Forestry you even think in longer time spans than a single life, i can't think of any kind of that planning outside of Theology (like asking people to pray for you in the next century).

Say the destruction stopped tomorrow, you still have to choose how to restore nature, using technology such as AI etc.
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


Nature restores itself duh

Natural laws win over societal group delusions every time, every artificial civilization learnt the hard way:


„See if all the worms on this planet right now, all of them die, in about 12 to 18 months, all life on this planet would cease.
Suppose all the insects die today, in something like 2 and a half to 4 years time, all life will cease.
But if all the human beings die, the planet will flourish.“
(Sadhguru)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

I'm afraid to invoke a mass delusion like a special human destiny or Evolution, but i will - we have the power to destroy, but also the power to create - what exactly remains to be seen. Recreating the human mind is one step, keeping the planet in a liveable state too, what is the rest ?
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The AI is still quite childlike, but computers have always acted like idiot savants, good at mathematics and some games.

Language skills, vision and speech recognition are getting better.
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


not better, only faster. Not the same!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

With finesse and brute force the imitation will be good enough to replace human agency some day. It will only be perfect if machines program other machines. That i think is still a longer path.
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


I am all for to leave the routine to the machines.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

Then questions arise what we do with our work and leisure time. Do we grow decadent or do we find other challenges.
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You keep missing my point, if artificial it destroys the original environment, much more complex than any models. It took the Nature billions of years yet some humans arrogance makes them believe they can fake it in one life span.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

In Forestry you even think in longer time spans than a single life, i can't think of any kind of that planning outside of Theology (like asking people to pray for you in the next century).

Say the destruction stopped tomorrow, you still have to choose how to restore nature, using technology such as AI etc.
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


Nature restores itself duh

Natural laws win over societal group delusions every time, every artificial civilization learnt the hard way:


„See if all the worms on this planet right now, all of them die, in about 12 to 18 months, all life on this planet would cease.
Suppose all the insects die today, in something like 2 and a half to 4 years time, all life will cease.
But if all the human beings die, the planet will flourish.“
(Sadhguru)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

I'm afraid to invoke a mass delusion like a special human destiny or Evolution, but i will - we have the power to destroy, but also the power to create - what exactly remains to be seen. Recreating the human mind is one step, keeping the planet in a liveable state too, what is the rest ?
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


Unless you begin to believe in the Creator you wont get it ever.

Every person has to find back to own source, the Source of life or it gets decomposed. The same goes for human society.
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not better, only faster. Not the same!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

With finesse and brute force the imitation will be good enough to replace human agency some day. It will only be perfect if machines program other machines. That i think is still a longer path.
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


I am all for to leave the routine to the machines.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

Then questions arise what we do with our work and leisure time. Do we grow decadent or do we find other challenges.
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


nless you begin to believe in the Creator you wont get it ever.
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In Forestry you even think in longer time spans than a single life, i can't think of any kind of that planning outside of Theology (like asking people to pray for you in the next century).

Say the destruction stopped tomorrow, you still have to choose how to restore nature, using technology such as AI etc.
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


Nature restores itself duh

Natural laws win over societal group delusions every time, every artificial civilization learnt the hard way:


„See if all the worms on this planet right now, all of them die, in about 12 to 18 months, all life on this planet would cease.
Suppose all the insects die today, in something like 2 and a half to 4 years time, all life will cease.
But if all the human beings die, the planet will flourish.“
(Sadhguru)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

I'm afraid to invoke a mass delusion like a special human destiny or Evolution, but i will - we have the power to destroy, but also the power to create - what exactly remains to be seen. Recreating the human mind is one step, keeping the planet in a liveable state too, what is the rest ?
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


Unless you begin to believe in the Creator you wont get it ever.

Every person has to find back to own source, the Source of life or it gets decomposed. The same goes for human society.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

We have competing ideas about that, most have to do with an afterlife or the lack thereof. Because that is one point of reality that we cannot explain in fullness.

Believing in the Abrahamic God or Natural Law is a good start. But then again, there are many ideas of God and Nature.
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Nature restores itself duh

Natural laws win over societal group delusions every time, every artificial civilization learnt the hard way:


„See if all the worms on this planet right now, all of them die, in about 12 to 18 months, all life on this planet would cease.
Suppose all the insects die today, in something like 2 and a half to 4 years time, all life will cease.
But if all the human beings die, the planet will flourish.“
(Sadhguru)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

I'm afraid to invoke a mass delusion like a special human destiny or Evolution, but i will - we have the power to destroy, but also the power to create - what exactly remains to be seen. Recreating the human mind is one step, keeping the planet in a liveable state too, what is the rest ?
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


Unless you begin to believe in the Creator you wont get it ever.

Every person has to find back to own source, the Source of life or it gets decomposed. The same goes for human society.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

We have competing ideas about that, most have to do with an afterlife or the lack thereof. Because that is one point of reality that we cannot explain in fullness.

Believing in the Abrahamic God or Natural Law is a good start. But then again, there are many ideas of God and Nature.
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


I am speaking of the Source you came from, not mentioned the Bible once.

First you have to realize there is some source of all of this, then begin to search for it ...
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With finesse and brute force the imitation will be good enough to replace human agency some day. It will only be perfect if machines program other machines. That i think is still a longer path.
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


I am all for to leave the routine to the machines.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

Then questions arise what we do with our work and leisure time. Do we grow decadent or do we find other challenges.
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


nless you begin to believe in the Creator you wont get it ever.
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Believing in natural law, a concept of justice and the eternity of both would that be enough ?
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I'm afraid to invoke a mass delusion like a special human destiny or Evolution, but i will - we have the power to destroy, but also the power to create - what exactly remains to be seen. Recreating the human mind is one step, keeping the planet in a liveable state too, what is the rest ?
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


Unless you begin to believe in the Creator you wont get it ever.

Every person has to find back to own source, the Source of life or it gets decomposed. The same goes for human society.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

We have competing ideas about that, most have to do with an afterlife or the lack thereof. Because that is one point of reality that we cannot explain in fullness.

Believing in the Abrahamic God or Natural Law is a good start. But then again, there are many ideas of God and Nature.
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


I am speaking of the Source you came from, not mentioned the Bible once.

First you have to realize there is some source of all of this, then begin to search for it ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

People will be asking for proof of that, beyond tautologies - you ask where do we come from, others ask where we are going later.
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Unless you begin to believe in the Creator you wont get it ever.

Every person has to find back to own source, the Source of life or it gets decomposed. The same goes for human society.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

We have competing ideas about that, most have to do with an afterlife or the lack thereof. Because that is one point of reality that we cannot explain in fullness.

Believing in the Abrahamic God or Natural Law is a good start. But then again, there are many ideas of God and Nature.
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


I am speaking of the Source you came from, not mentioned the Bible once.

First you have to realize there is some source of all of this, then begin to search for it ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

People will be asking for proof of that, beyond tautologies - you ask where do we come from, others ask where we are going later.
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


You are saying the same in other words, everybody came (where from?) and will be gone (whence?). The most important questions of one´s life!
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We have competing ideas about that, most have to do with an afterlife or the lack thereof. Because that is one point of reality that we cannot explain in fullness.

Believing in the Abrahamic God or Natural Law is a good start. But then again, there are many ideas of God and Nature.
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


I am speaking of the Source you came from, not mentioned the Bible once.

First you have to realize there is some source of all of this, then begin to search for it ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

People will be asking for proof of that, beyond tautologies - you ask where do we come from, others ask where we are going later.
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


You are saying the same in other words, everybody came (where from?) and will be gone *(whither?). The most important questions of one´s life!
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*typo
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Personality assessment.

Like it's the government's business.

Do the people get to see the personality assessments of the government?

I can do that for them: psychopaths.
230 here, but 0 there.
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We have competing ideas about that, most have to do with an afterlife or the lack thereof. Because that is one point of reality that we cannot explain in fullness.

Believing in the Abrahamic God or Natural Law is a good start. But then again, there are many ideas of God and Nature.
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


I am speaking of the Source you came from, not mentioned the Bible once.

First you have to realize there is some source of all of this, then begin to search for it ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

People will be asking for proof of that, beyond tautologies - you ask where do we come from, others ask where we are going later.
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


You are saying the same in other words, everybody came (where from?) and will be gone (whence?). The most important questions of one´s life!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

Ok, i actually believe that we are created to be eternal, and so is the universe. The operative concept is "to be", not necessarily but potentially so. Call it soul, monad, perspective, mind, individual etc.
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Personality assessment.

Like it's the government's business.

Do the people get to see the personality assessments of the government?

I can do that for them: psychopaths.
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ohyeah
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I am speaking of the Source you came from, not mentioned the Bible once.

First you have to realize there is some source of all of this, then begin to search for it ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

People will be asking for proof of that, beyond tautologies - you ask where do we come from, others ask where we are going later.
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


You are saying the same in other words, everybody came (where from?) and will be gone (whence?). The most important questions of one´s life!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

Ok, i actually believe that we are created to be eternal, and so is the universe. The operative concept is "to be", not necessarily but potentially so. Call it soul, monad, perspective, mind, individual etc.
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


All beliefs are thoughts, while Reality has been thoughtless ...
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People will be asking for proof of that, beyond tautologies - you ask where do we come from, others ask where we are going later.
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


You are saying the same in other words, everybody came (where from?) and will be gone (whence?). The most important questions of one´s life!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

Ok, i actually believe that we are created to be eternal, and so is the universe. The operative concept is "to be", not necessarily but potentially so. Call it soul, monad, perspective, mind, individual etc.
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


All beliefs are thoughts, while Reality has been thoughtless ...
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..get rid of concepts, Reality alone stays. No more delusions!
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You are saying the same in other words, everybody came (where from?) and will be gone (whence?). The most important questions of one´s life!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

Ok, i actually believe that we are created to be eternal, and so is the universe. The operative concept is "to be", not necessarily but potentially so. Call it soul, monad, perspective, mind, individual etc.
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


All beliefs are thoughts, while Reality has been thoughtless ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454



..get rid of concepts, Reality alone stays. No more delusions!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

We are parts of reality reflecting other parts of it.
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Ok, i actually believe that we are created to be eternal, and so is the universe. The operative concept is "to be", not necessarily but potentially so. Call it soul, monad, perspective, mind, individual etc.
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


All beliefs are thoughts, while Reality has been thoughtless ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454



..get rid of concepts, Reality alone stays. No more delusions!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

We are parts of reality reflecting other parts of it.
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reflection is never its origin
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All beliefs are thoughts, while Reality has been thoughtless ...
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..get rid of concepts, Reality alone stays. No more delusions!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

We are parts of reality reflecting other parts of it.
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reflection is never its origin
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But how do you guarantee that you are at the origin ? For me it is a process, going to a limit in infinitesimal steps.
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..get rid of concepts, Reality alone stays. No more delusions!
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We are parts of reality reflecting other parts of it.
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


reflection is never its origin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

But how do you guarantee that you are at the origin ? For me it is a process, going to a limit in infinitesimal steps.
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The Source is thoughtless.
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George Orwell = Dark Winter in jebbish gematria
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We are parts of reality reflecting other parts of it.
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reflection is never its origin
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But how do you guarantee that you are at the origin ? For me it is a process, going to a limit in infinitesimal steps.
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


The Source is thoughtless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

Ok, so its very immediate.

So you think everyone speaking of higher consciousness or knowledge was deluded ?
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reflection is never its origin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

But how do you guarantee that you are at the origin ? For me it is a process, going to a limit in infinitesimal steps.
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


The Source is thoughtless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

Ok, so its very immediate.

So you think everyone speaking of higher consciousness or knowledge was deluded ?
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Pointers on the Way are important ...
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But how do you guarantee that you are at the origin ? For me it is a process, going to a limit in infinitesimal steps.
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The Source is thoughtless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

Ok, so its very immediate.

So you think everyone speaking of higher consciousness or knowledge was deluded ?
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


Pointers on the Way are important ...
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Maybe

It is one way to understand the Most High. But thoughtless/emptiness is hard to maintain, making me question if it is not an artificial state. Some practitioners i suspect use the thoughtlessness as a basis for projecting any idea into being, any idea at all that passes by.
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The Source is thoughtless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

Ok, so its very immediate.

So you think everyone speaking of higher consciousness or knowledge was deluded ?
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


Pointers on the Way are important ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454

Maybe

It is one way to understand the Most High. But thoughtless/emptiness is hard to maintain, making me question if it is not an artificial state. Some practitioners i suspect use the thoughtlessness as a basis for projecting any idea into being, any idea at all that passes by.
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143


thoughtless does not mean empty!

Like 99 percent of the bodily processes go on without your thinking about. How much more is it the case when speaking about the Nature, the Universe etc.





GLP