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User ID: 8296444 United States 11/30/2021 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | exactly, thats the only original purpose of intelligence: to avoid or get rid of flaws, misconceptions. No mortal or society of mortals can reinvent Reality. It has been there long before and long after everybody will be gone. You'd be surprised then at how all of reality has really been hijacked and the vile things they are doing with that control. "The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is." Winston Churchill Thread: THE NANO/AI/FREQUENCY/BCI MIND CONTROL SYSTEM Thread: Humans are now "hackable animals"? [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Dalek Uno User ID: 80229143 Germany 11/30/2021 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143 The trouble with AI science is that it does prove that our thoughts can be mechanized, broken down into logical particles as well, and imitated and replaced. Not really, unless your IQ is less than 70. The AI is still quite childlike, but computers have always acted like idiot savants, good at mathematics and some games. Language skills, vision and speech recognition are getting better. not better, only faster. Not the same! With finesse and brute force the imitation will be good enough to replace human agency some day. It will only be perfect if machines program other machines. That i think is still a longer path. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 81365454 Slovakia 11/30/2021 04:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454 Yes, the tech has been especially thorough with destroying the original environment humans depend on wiht their lives. Technology and science can be used to exploit, but also to repair. Maybe both at the same time, see Forestry compared to (other) forms of agriculture. You keep missing my point, if artificial it destroys the original environment, much more complex than any models. It took the Nature billions of years yet some humans arrogance makes them believe they can fake it in one life span. In Forestry you even think in longer time spans than a single life, i can't think of any kind of that planning outside of Theology (like asking people to pray for you in the next century). Say the destruction stopped tomorrow, you still have to choose how to restore nature, using technology such as AI etc. Nature restores itself duh Natural laws win over societal group delusions every time, every artificial civilization learnt the hard way: „See if all the worms on this planet right now, all of them die, in about 12 to 18 months, all life on this planet would cease. Suppose all the insects die today, in something like 2 and a half to 4 years time, all life will cease. But if all the human beings die, the planet will flourish.“ (Sadhguru) |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 81365454 Slovakia 11/30/2021 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | exactly, thats the only original purpose of intelligence: to avoid or get rid of flaws, misconceptions. No mortal or society of mortals can reinvent Reality. It has been there long before and long after everybody will be gone. You'd be surprised then at how all of reality has really been hijacked and the vile things they are doing with that control. Projecting on to Reality is not really manipulating other than with sheeple. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 81365454 Slovakia 11/30/2021 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454 exactly, thats the only original purpose of intelligence: to avoid or get rid of flaws, misconceptions. No mortal or society of mortals can reinvent Reality. It has been there long before and long after everybody will be gone. You'd be surprised then at how all of reality has really been hijacked and the vile things they are doing with that control. Projecting on to Reality is not really manipulating other than with sheeple. Illusion needs the real background, unlike the background which does not need the illusionists. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 81365454 Slovakia 11/30/2021 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The AI is still quite childlike, but computers have always acted like idiot savants, good at mathematics and some games. Language skills, vision and speech recognition are getting better. not better, only faster. Not the same! With finesse and brute force the imitation will be good enough to replace human agency some day. It will only be perfect if machines program other machines. That i think is still a longer path. I am all for to leave the routine to the machines. |
Dalek Uno User ID: 80229143 Germany 11/30/2021 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143 Technology and science can be used to exploit, but also to repair. Maybe both at the same time, see Forestry compared to (other) forms of agriculture. You keep missing my point, if artificial it destroys the original environment, much more complex than any models. It took the Nature billions of years yet some humans arrogance makes them believe they can fake it in one life span. In Forestry you even think in longer time spans than a single life, i can't think of any kind of that planning outside of Theology (like asking people to pray for you in the next century). Say the destruction stopped tomorrow, you still have to choose how to restore nature, using technology such as AI etc. Nature restores itself duh Natural laws win over societal group delusions every time, every artificial civilization learnt the hard way: „See if all the worms on this planet right now, all of them die, in about 12 to 18 months, all life on this planet would cease. Suppose all the insects die today, in something like 2 and a half to 4 years time, all life will cease. But if all the human beings die, the planet will flourish.“ (Sadhguru) I'm afraid to invoke a mass delusion like a special human destiny or Evolution, but i will - we have the power to destroy, but also the power to create - what exactly remains to be seen. Recreating the human mind is one step, keeping the planet in a liveable state too, what is the rest ? |
Dalek Uno User ID: 80229143 Germany 11/30/2021 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143 The AI is still quite childlike, but computers have always acted like idiot savants, good at mathematics and some games. Language skills, vision and speech recognition are getting better. not better, only faster. Not the same! With finesse and brute force the imitation will be good enough to replace human agency some day. It will only be perfect if machines program other machines. That i think is still a longer path. I am all for to leave the routine to the machines. Then questions arise what we do with our work and leisure time. Do we grow decadent or do we find other challenges. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 81365454 Slovakia 11/30/2021 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454 You keep missing my point, if artificial it destroys the original environment, much more complex than any models. It took the Nature billions of years yet some humans arrogance makes them believe they can fake it in one life span. In Forestry you even think in longer time spans than a single life, i can't think of any kind of that planning outside of Theology (like asking people to pray for you in the next century). Say the destruction stopped tomorrow, you still have to choose how to restore nature, using technology such as AI etc. Nature restores itself duh Natural laws win over societal group delusions every time, every artificial civilization learnt the hard way: „See if all the worms on this planet right now, all of them die, in about 12 to 18 months, all life on this planet would cease. Suppose all the insects die today, in something like 2 and a half to 4 years time, all life will cease. But if all the human beings die, the planet will flourish.“ (Sadhguru) I'm afraid to invoke a mass delusion like a special human destiny or Evolution, but i will - we have the power to destroy, but also the power to create - what exactly remains to be seen. Recreating the human mind is one step, keeping the planet in a liveable state too, what is the rest ? Unless you begin to believe in the Creator you wont get it ever. Every person has to find back to own source, the Source of life or it gets decomposed. The same goes for human society. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 81365454 Slovakia 11/30/2021 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With finesse and brute force the imitation will be good enough to replace human agency some day. It will only be perfect if machines program other machines. That i think is still a longer path. I am all for to leave the routine to the machines. Then questions arise what we do with our work and leisure time. Do we grow decadent or do we find other challenges. nless you begin to believe in the Creator you wont get it ever. |
Dalek Uno User ID: 80229143 Germany 11/30/2021 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143 In Forestry you even think in longer time spans than a single life, i can't think of any kind of that planning outside of Theology (like asking people to pray for you in the next century). Say the destruction stopped tomorrow, you still have to choose how to restore nature, using technology such as AI etc. Nature restores itself duh Natural laws win over societal group delusions every time, every artificial civilization learnt the hard way: „See if all the worms on this planet right now, all of them die, in about 12 to 18 months, all life on this planet would cease. Suppose all the insects die today, in something like 2 and a half to 4 years time, all life will cease. But if all the human beings die, the planet will flourish.“ (Sadhguru) I'm afraid to invoke a mass delusion like a special human destiny or Evolution, but i will - we have the power to destroy, but also the power to create - what exactly remains to be seen. Recreating the human mind is one step, keeping the planet in a liveable state too, what is the rest ? Unless you begin to believe in the Creator you wont get it ever. Every person has to find back to own source, the Source of life or it gets decomposed. The same goes for human society. We have competing ideas about that, most have to do with an afterlife or the lack thereof. Because that is one point of reality that we cannot explain in fullness. Believing in the Abrahamic God or Natural Law is a good start. But then again, there are many ideas of God and Nature. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 81365454 Slovakia 11/30/2021 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454 Nature restores itself duh Natural laws win over societal group delusions every time, every artificial civilization learnt the hard way: „See if all the worms on this planet right now, all of them die, in about 12 to 18 months, all life on this planet would cease. Suppose all the insects die today, in something like 2 and a half to 4 years time, all life will cease. But if all the human beings die, the planet will flourish.“ (Sadhguru) I'm afraid to invoke a mass delusion like a special human destiny or Evolution, but i will - we have the power to destroy, but also the power to create - what exactly remains to be seen. Recreating the human mind is one step, keeping the planet in a liveable state too, what is the rest ? Unless you begin to believe in the Creator you wont get it ever. Every person has to find back to own source, the Source of life or it gets decomposed. The same goes for human society. We have competing ideas about that, most have to do with an afterlife or the lack thereof. Because that is one point of reality that we cannot explain in fullness. Believing in the Abrahamic God or Natural Law is a good start. But then again, there are many ideas of God and Nature. I am speaking of the Source you came from, not mentioned the Bible once. First you have to realize there is some source of all of this, then begin to search for it ... |
Dalek Uno User ID: 80229143 Germany 11/30/2021 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143 With finesse and brute force the imitation will be good enough to replace human agency some day. It will only be perfect if machines program other machines. That i think is still a longer path. I am all for to leave the routine to the machines. Then questions arise what we do with our work and leisure time. Do we grow decadent or do we find other challenges. nless you begin to believe in the Creator you wont get it ever. Believing in natural law, a concept of justice and the eternity of both would that be enough ? |
Dalek Uno User ID: 80229143 Germany 11/30/2021 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143 I'm afraid to invoke a mass delusion like a special human destiny or Evolution, but i will - we have the power to destroy, but also the power to create - what exactly remains to be seen. Recreating the human mind is one step, keeping the planet in a liveable state too, what is the rest ? Unless you begin to believe in the Creator you wont get it ever. Every person has to find back to own source, the Source of life or it gets decomposed. The same goes for human society. We have competing ideas about that, most have to do with an afterlife or the lack thereof. Because that is one point of reality that we cannot explain in fullness. Believing in the Abrahamic God or Natural Law is a good start. But then again, there are many ideas of God and Nature. I am speaking of the Source you came from, not mentioned the Bible once. First you have to realize there is some source of all of this, then begin to search for it ... People will be asking for proof of that, beyond tautologies - you ask where do we come from, others ask where we are going later. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 81365454 Slovakia 11/30/2021 04:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454 Unless you begin to believe in the Creator you wont get it ever. Every person has to find back to own source, the Source of life or it gets decomposed. The same goes for human society. We have competing ideas about that, most have to do with an afterlife or the lack thereof. Because that is one point of reality that we cannot explain in fullness. Believing in the Abrahamic God or Natural Law is a good start. But then again, there are many ideas of God and Nature. I am speaking of the Source you came from, not mentioned the Bible once. First you have to realize there is some source of all of this, then begin to search for it ... People will be asking for proof of that, beyond tautologies - you ask where do we come from, others ask where we are going later. You are saying the same in other words, everybody came (where from?) and will be gone (whence?). The most important questions of one´s life! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 81365454 Slovakia 11/30/2021 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143 We have competing ideas about that, most have to do with an afterlife or the lack thereof. Because that is one point of reality that we cannot explain in fullness. Believing in the Abrahamic God or Natural Law is a good start. But then again, there are many ideas of God and Nature. I am speaking of the Source you came from, not mentioned the Bible once. First you have to realize there is some source of all of this, then begin to search for it ... People will be asking for proof of that, beyond tautologies - you ask where do we come from, others ask where we are going later. You are saying the same in other words, everybody came (where from?) and will be gone *(whither?). The most important questions of one´s life! *typo |
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Dalek Uno User ID: 80229143 Germany 11/30/2021 04:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143 We have competing ideas about that, most have to do with an afterlife or the lack thereof. Because that is one point of reality that we cannot explain in fullness. Believing in the Abrahamic God or Natural Law is a good start. But then again, there are many ideas of God and Nature. I am speaking of the Source you came from, not mentioned the Bible once. First you have to realize there is some source of all of this, then begin to search for it ... People will be asking for proof of that, beyond tautologies - you ask where do we come from, others ask where we are going later. You are saying the same in other words, everybody came (where from?) and will be gone (whence?). The most important questions of one´s life! Ok, i actually believe that we are created to be eternal, and so is the universe. The operative concept is "to be", not necessarily but potentially so. Call it soul, monad, perspective, mind, individual etc. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 81365454 Slovakia 11/30/2021 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454 I am speaking of the Source you came from, not mentioned the Bible once. First you have to realize there is some source of all of this, then begin to search for it ... People will be asking for proof of that, beyond tautologies - you ask where do we come from, others ask where we are going later. You are saying the same in other words, everybody came (where from?) and will be gone (whence?). The most important questions of one´s life! Ok, i actually believe that we are created to be eternal, and so is the universe. The operative concept is "to be", not necessarily but potentially so. Call it soul, monad, perspective, mind, individual etc. All beliefs are thoughts, while Reality has been thoughtless ... |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 81365454 Slovakia 11/30/2021 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143 People will be asking for proof of that, beyond tautologies - you ask where do we come from, others ask where we are going later. You are saying the same in other words, everybody came (where from?) and will be gone (whence?). The most important questions of one´s life! Ok, i actually believe that we are created to be eternal, and so is the universe. The operative concept is "to be", not necessarily but potentially so. Call it soul, monad, perspective, mind, individual etc. All beliefs are thoughts, while Reality has been thoughtless ... ..get rid of concepts, Reality alone stays. No more delusions! |
Dalek Uno User ID: 80229143 Germany 11/30/2021 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454 You are saying the same in other words, everybody came (where from?) and will be gone (whence?). The most important questions of one´s life! Ok, i actually believe that we are created to be eternal, and so is the universe. The operative concept is "to be", not necessarily but potentially so. Call it soul, monad, perspective, mind, individual etc. All beliefs are thoughts, while Reality has been thoughtless ... ..get rid of concepts, Reality alone stays. No more delusions! We are parts of reality reflecting other parts of it. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 81365454 Slovakia 11/30/2021 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143 Ok, i actually believe that we are created to be eternal, and so is the universe. The operative concept is "to be", not necessarily but potentially so. Call it soul, monad, perspective, mind, individual etc. All beliefs are thoughts, while Reality has been thoughtless ... ..get rid of concepts, Reality alone stays. No more delusions! We are parts of reality reflecting other parts of it. reflection is never its origin |
Dalek Uno User ID: 80229143 Germany 11/30/2021 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454 All beliefs are thoughts, while Reality has been thoughtless ... ..get rid of concepts, Reality alone stays. No more delusions! We are parts of reality reflecting other parts of it. reflection is never its origin But how do you guarantee that you are at the origin ? For me it is a process, going to a limit in infinitesimal steps. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 81365454 Slovakia 11/30/2021 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454 ..get rid of concepts, Reality alone stays. No more delusions! We are parts of reality reflecting other parts of it. reflection is never its origin But how do you guarantee that you are at the origin ? For me it is a process, going to a limit in infinitesimal steps. The Source is thoughtless. |
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Dalek Uno User ID: 80229143 Germany 11/30/2021 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But how do you guarantee that you are at the origin ? For me it is a process, going to a limit in infinitesimal steps. The Source is thoughtless. Ok, so its very immediate. So you think everyone speaking of higher consciousness or knowledge was deluded ? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 81365454 Slovakia 11/30/2021 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But how do you guarantee that you are at the origin ? For me it is a process, going to a limit in infinitesimal steps. The Source is thoughtless. Ok, so its very immediate. So you think everyone speaking of higher consciousness or knowledge was deluded ? Pointers on the Way are important ... |
Dalek Uno User ID: 80229143 Germany 11/30/2021 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143 But how do you guarantee that you are at the origin ? For me it is a process, going to a limit in infinitesimal steps. The Source is thoughtless. Ok, so its very immediate. So you think everyone speaking of higher consciousness or knowledge was deluded ? Pointers on the Way are important ... Maybe It is one way to understand the Most High. But thoughtless/emptiness is hard to maintain, making me question if it is not an artificial state. Some practitioners i suspect use the thoughtlessness as a basis for projecting any idea into being, any idea at all that passes by. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 81365454 Slovakia 11/30/2021 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, so its very immediate. So you think everyone speaking of higher consciousness or knowledge was deluded ? Pointers on the Way are important ... Maybe It is one way to understand the Most High. But thoughtless/emptiness is hard to maintain, making me question if it is not an artificial state. Some practitioners i suspect use the thoughtlessness as a basis for projecting any idea into being, any idea at all that passes by. thoughtless does not mean empty! Like 99 percent of the bodily processes go on without your thinking about. How much more is it the case when speaking about the Nature, the Universe etc. |