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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 81365454 Slovakia 11/30/2021 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has there been one invention in human history the control freaks building global society Babylon have not exploit in policing others? I am a VK member and can tell you from my first-hand experience AI watching you is annoying! They should first do something about AIs low IQ then only to let assessing real people |
Dalek Uno User ID: 80229143 Germany 11/30/2021 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has there been one invention in human history the control freaks building global society Babylon have not exploit in policing others? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454 I am a VK member and can tell you from my first-hand experience AI watching you is annoying! They should first do something about AIs low IQ then only to let assessing real people it's all about prediction before it was astrology now its AI |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 81365454 Slovakia 11/30/2021 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has there been one invention in human history the control freaks building global society Babylon have not exploit in policing others? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454 I am a VK member and can tell you from my first-hand experience AI watching you is annoying! They should first do something about AIs low IQ then only to let assessing real people it's all about prediction before it was astrology now its AI both cults |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 81365454 Slovakia 11/30/2021 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has there been one invention in human history the control freaks building global society Babylon have not exploit in policing others? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454 I am a VK member and can tell you from my first-hand experience AI watching you is annoying! They should first do something about AIs low IQ then only to let assessing real people it's all about prediction before it was astrology now its AI uninspired mortals playing god, nothing more. What can possibly go wrong as so many times in human history, right? |
Dalek Uno User ID: 80229143 Germany 11/30/2021 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has there been one invention in human history the control freaks building global society Babylon have not exploit in policing others? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454 I am a VK member and can tell you from my first-hand experience AI watching you is annoying! They should first do something about AIs low IQ then only to let assessing real people it's all about prediction before it was astrology now its AI both cults one works with half-assed astronomy the other with statistics and probabilities i am interested in the steering mechanisms of the AI - how the algorithms are changed to nudge the observee into thinking and doing |
Dalek Uno User ID: 80229143 Germany 11/30/2021 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has there been one invention in human history the control freaks building global society Babylon have not exploit in policing others? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454 I am a VK member and can tell you from my first-hand experience AI watching you is annoying! They should first do something about AIs low IQ then only to let assessing real people it's all about prediction before it was astrology now its AI uninspired mortals playing god, nothing more. What can possibly go wrong as so many times in human history, right? we are blessed with great knowledge about the environment and our own psychologies, more than ever before ethics apply or don't as in all fields of human endeavor |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 81365454 Slovakia 11/30/2021 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has there been one invention in human history the control freaks building global society Babylon have not exploit in policing others? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454 I am a VK member and can tell you from my first-hand experience AI watching you is annoying! They should first do something about AIs low IQ then only to let assessing real people it's all about prediction before it was astrology now its AI both cults one works with half-assed astronomy the other with statistics and probabilities i am interested in the steering mechanisms of the AI - how the algorithms are changed to nudge the observee into thinking and doing AI mimicking human way of thinking, can you say futile? If human way of thinking was able to solve the problems it would have been done already in the past. They are just adding more problems exponetially ... |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 81365454 Slovakia 11/30/2021 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has there been one invention in human history the control freaks building global society Babylon have not exploit in policing others? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454 I am a VK member and can tell you from my first-hand experience AI watching you is annoying! They should first do something about AIs low IQ then only to let assessing real people it's all about prediction before it was astrology now its AI uninspired mortals playing god, nothing more. What can possibly go wrong as so many times in human history, right? we are blessed with great knowledge about the environment and our own psychologies, more than ever before ethics apply or don't as in all fields of human endeavor Every civilization thought the same, they all have gone. |
Dalek Uno User ID: 80229143 Germany 11/30/2021 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | one works with half-assed astronomy the other with statistics and probabilities i am interested in the steering mechanisms of the AI - how the algorithms are changed to nudge the observee into thinking and doing AI mimicking human way of thinking, can you say futile? If human way of thinking was able to solve the problems it would have been done already in the past. They are just adding more problems exponetially ... repetition, automation and acceleration of the human mind it has to be on a safe and stable trajectory already to wield such mighty tools |
Dalek Uno User ID: 80229143 Germany 11/30/2021 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | uninspired mortals playing god, nothing more. What can possibly go wrong as so many times in human history, right? we are blessed with great knowledge about the environment and our own psychologies, more than ever before ethics apply or don't as in all fields of human endeavor Every civilization thought the same, they all have gone. Those are our choices, and we are obliged to face them. Escapism or some kind of halt on technology would be arbitrary as well. Our doom will come much faster than in previous cultures, if it arrives. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 81365454 Slovakia 11/30/2021 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | one works with half-assed astronomy the other with statistics and probabilities i am interested in the steering mechanisms of the AI - how the algorithms are changed to nudge the observee into thinking and doing AI mimicking human way of thinking, can you say futile? If human way of thinking was able to solve the problems it would have been done already in the past. They are just adding more problems exponetially ... repetition, automation and acceleration of the human mind it has to be on a safe and stable trajectory already to wield such mighty tools no matter how fast a limited mind works it ALWAYS ends in tautologies and oxymorons, b/c of its limits and of the limits of the formal logic. |
Dalek Uno User ID: 80229143 Germany 11/30/2021 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143 one works with half-assed astronomy the other with statistics and probabilities i am interested in the steering mechanisms of the AI - how the algorithms are changed to nudge the observee into thinking and doing AI mimicking human way of thinking, can you say futile? If human way of thinking was able to solve the problems it would have been done already in the past. They are just adding more problems exponetially ... repetition, automation and acceleration of the human mind it has to be on a safe and stable trajectory already to wield such mighty tools no matter how fast a limited mind works it ALWAYS ends in tautologies and oxymorons, b/c of its limits and of the limits of the formal logic. but there are the workings of pure chance as well something keeps on budging us into the infinite and irrational, or super-rational |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 81365454 Slovakia 11/30/2021 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454 uninspired mortals playing god, nothing more. What can possibly go wrong as so many times in human history, right? we are blessed with great knowledge about the environment and our own psychologies, more than ever before ethics apply or don't as in all fields of human endeavor Every civilization thought the same, they all have gone. Those are our choices, and we are obliged to face them. Escapism or some kind of halt on technology would be arbitrary as well. Our doom will come much faster than in previous cultures, if it arrives. There never has been any other salvation of humanity than to find back to the Creator. Tech is more than contraproductive! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 81365454 Slovakia 11/30/2021 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454 AI mimicking human way of thinking, can you say futile? If human way of thinking was able to solve the problems it would have been done already in the past. They are just adding more problems exponetially ... repetition, automation and acceleration of the human mind it has to be on a safe and stable trajectory already to wield such mighty tools no matter how fast a limited mind works it ALWAYS ends in tautologies and oxymorons, b/c of its limits and of the limits of the formal logic. but there are the workings of pure chance as well something keeps on budging us into the infinite and irrational, or super-rational Reality is no thought or imagination, the basic flaw with every science. |
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Dalek Uno User ID: 80229143 Germany 11/30/2021 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143 we are blessed with great knowledge about the environment and our own psychologies, more than ever before ethics apply or don't as in all fields of human endeavor Every civilization thought the same, they all have gone. Those are our choices, and we are obliged to face them. Escapism or some kind of halt on technology would be arbitrary as well. Our doom will come much faster than in previous cultures, if it arrives. There never has been any other salvation of humanity than to find back to the Creator. Tech is more than contraproductive! The advances in computing have also changed the way we think about metaphysics. Now, without thought, we apply the metaphor of simulation and robotics on the whole or part of creation. I agree there is or must be a greater Good - for me technology is just another extension of language and of our cultural norms. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 81365454 Slovakia 11/30/2021 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those are our choices, and we are obliged to face them. Escapism or some kind of halt on technology would be arbitrary as well. Our doom will come much faster than in previous cultures, if it arrives. There never has been any other salvation of humanity than to find back to the Creator. Tech is more than contraproductive! The advances in computing have also changed the way we think about metaphysics. Now, without thought, we apply the metaphor of simulation and robotics on the whole or part of creation. I agree there is or must be a greater Good - for me technology is just another extension of language and of our cultural norms. Thread: How do you know A.I. is not alive |
Dalek Uno User ID: 80229143 Germany 11/30/2021 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143 repetition, automation and acceleration of the human mind it has to be on a safe and stable trajectory already to wield such mighty tools no matter how fast a limited mind works it ALWAYS ends in tautologies and oxymorons, b/c of its limits and of the limits of the formal logic. but there are the workings of pure chance as well something keeps on budging us into the infinite and irrational, or super-rational Reality is no thought or imagination, the basic flaw with every science. Dunno, i expected sciences to describe reality. If they describe it good enough to change it, it will be technology or art. |
Dalek Uno User ID: 80229143 Germany 11/30/2021 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143 Those are our choices, and we are obliged to face them. Escapism or some kind of halt on technology would be arbitrary as well. Our doom will come much faster than in previous cultures, if it arrives. There never has been any other salvation of humanity than to find back to the Creator. Tech is more than contraproductive! The advances in computing have also changed the way we think about metaphysics. Now, without thought, we apply the metaphor of simulation and robotics on the whole or part of creation. I agree there is or must be a greater Good - for me technology is just another extension of language and of our cultural norms. Thread: How do you know A.I. is not alive I am not a transhumanist. Somehow implanting ourselves with circuits or replacing everything with silicon should make everything better ? There is a thread about the Swedes beginning to implant themselves (again) with microchips. They are just marked animals. Any artificial lifeform, if successfully made, would just be a repetition of something that exists already. For some people pure thought or a life of pure thought is the epitome of humanity. You also sound like an existentialist like me. Perhaps more Christian. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 81365454 Slovakia 11/30/2021 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454 no matter how fast a limited mind works it ALWAYS ends in tautologies and oxymorons, b/c of its limits and of the limits of the formal logic. but there are the workings of pure chance as well something keeps on budging us into the infinite and irrational, or super-rational Reality is no thought or imagination, the basic flaw with every science. Dunno, i expected sciences to describe reality. If they describe it good enough to change it, it will be technology or art. how could any intelligence substitute all the other organs in the body? It is like asking the head to do what legs or arms do. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 81365454 Slovakia 11/30/2021 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454 There never has been any other salvation of humanity than to find back to the Creator. Tech is more than contraproductive! The advances in computing have also changed the way we think about metaphysics. Now, without thought, we apply the metaphor of simulation and robotics on the whole or part of creation. I agree there is or must be a greater Good - for me technology is just another extension of language and of our cultural norms. Thread: How do you know A.I. is not alive I am not a transhumanist. Somehow implanting ourselves with circuits or replacing everything with silicon should make everything better ? There is a thread about the Swedes beginning to implant themselves (again) with microchips. They are just marked animals. Any artificial lifeform, if successfully made, would just be a repetition of something that exists already. For some people pure thought or a life of pure thought is the epitome of humanity. You also sound like an existentialist like me. Perhaps more Christian. I cannot care less about labeling me anything, I love critical thinking, keeping sanity of body and mind, avoiding all kinds of cults ruling the sheeple. |
Dalek Uno User ID: 80229143 Germany 11/30/2021 02:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143 but there are the workings of pure chance as well something keeps on budging us into the infinite and irrational, or super-rational Reality is no thought or imagination, the basic flaw with every science. Dunno, i expected sciences to describe reality. If they describe it good enough to change it, it will be technology or art. how could any intelligence substitute all the other organs in the body? It is like asking the head to do what legs or arms do. It works when you believe that intelligence is the essence of everything. What is the being of your legs and arms ? Movement, action - thought does both. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 81365454 Slovakia 11/30/2021 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454 Reality is no thought or imagination, the basic flaw with every science. Dunno, i expected sciences to describe reality. If they describe it good enough to change it, it will be technology or art. how could any intelligence substitute all the other organs in the body? It is like asking the head to do what legs or arms do. It works when you believe that intelligence is the essence of everything. What is the being of your legs and arms ? Movement, action - thought does both. There is no essence of the body, without a part you are crippled or dead. |
Dalek Uno User ID: 80229143 Germany 11/30/2021 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143 The advances in computing have also changed the way we think about metaphysics. Now, without thought, we apply the metaphor of simulation and robotics on the whole or part of creation. I agree there is or must be a greater Good - for me technology is just another extension of language and of our cultural norms. Thread: How do you know A.I. is not alive I am not a transhumanist. Somehow implanting ourselves with circuits or replacing everything with silicon should make everything better ? There is a thread about the Swedes beginning to implant themselves (again) with microchips. They are just marked animals. Any artificial lifeform, if successfully made, would just be a repetition of something that exists already. For some people pure thought or a life of pure thought is the epitome of humanity. You also sound like an existentialist like me. Perhaps more Christian. I cannot care less about labeling me anything, I love critical thinking, keeping sanity of body and mind, avoiding all kinds of cults ruling the sheeple. I remember Francis Bacon, author of the New Atlantis, speaking about the "idols" of the many. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 81365454 Slovakia 11/30/2021 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not a transhumanist. Somehow implanting ourselves with circuits or replacing everything with silicon should make everything better ? There is a thread about the Swedes beginning to implant themselves (again) with microchips. They are just marked animals. Any artificial lifeform, if successfully made, would just be a repetition of something that exists already. For some people pure thought or a life of pure thought is the epitome of humanity. You also sound like an existentialist like me. Perhaps more Christian. I cannot care less about labeling me anything, I love critical thinking, keeping sanity of body and mind, avoiding all kinds of cults ruling the sheeple. I remember Francis Bacon, author of the New Atlantis, speaking about the "idols" of the many. I do not follow dead people. |
Dalek Uno User ID: 80229143 Germany 11/30/2021 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143 Dunno, i expected sciences to describe reality. If they describe it good enough to change it, it will be technology or art. how could any intelligence substitute all the other organs in the body? It is like asking the head to do what legs or arms do. It works when you believe that intelligence is the essence of everything. What is the being of your legs and arms ? Movement, action - thought does both. There is no essence of the body, without a part you are crippled or dead. For me it is a spectrum of some sort. You have basic being in the body, which has to be a kind of whole, essence in the in the mental realm/spirit, which is individuality - or is it ? |
Dalek Uno User ID: 80229143 Germany 11/30/2021 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143 I am not a transhumanist. Somehow implanting ourselves with circuits or replacing everything with silicon should make everything better ? There is a thread about the Swedes beginning to implant themselves (again) with microchips. They are just marked animals. Any artificial lifeform, if successfully made, would just be a repetition of something that exists already. For some people pure thought or a life of pure thought is the epitome of humanity. You also sound like an existentialist like me. Perhaps more Christian. I cannot care less about labeling me anything, I love critical thinking, keeping sanity of body and mind, avoiding all kinds of cults ruling the sheeple. I remember Francis Bacon, author of the New Atlantis, speaking about the "idols" of the many. I do not follow dead people. I only follow them to avoid their mistakes |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 81365454 Slovakia 11/30/2021 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454 how could any intelligence substitute all the other organs in the body? It is like asking the head to do what legs or arms do. It works when you believe that intelligence is the essence of everything. What is the being of your legs and arms ? Movement, action - thought does both. There is no essence of the body, without a part you are crippled or dead. For me it is a spectrum of some sort. You have basic being in the body, which has to be a kind of whole, essence in the in the mental realm/spirit, which is individuality - or is it ? out of body experiences prove you wrong |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 81365454 Slovakia 11/30/2021 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81365454 I cannot care less about labeling me anything, I love critical thinking, keeping sanity of body and mind, avoiding all kinds of cults ruling the sheeple. I remember Francis Bacon, author of the New Atlantis, speaking about the "idols" of the many. I do not follow dead people. I only follow them to avoid their mistakes exactly, thats the only original purpose of intelligence: to avoid or get rid of flaws, misconceptions. |
Dalek Uno User ID: 80229143 Germany 11/30/2021 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dalek Uno 80229143 It works when you believe that intelligence is the essence of everything. What is the being of your legs and arms ? Movement, action - thought does both. There is no essence of the body, without a part you are crippled or dead. For me it is a spectrum of some sort. You have basic being in the body, which has to be a kind of whole, essence in the in the mental realm/spirit, which is individuality - or is it ? out of body experiences prove you wrong how so ? do you mean to say that they have to be bodily in some form- like astral travelling - or some kind of spiritual event, just a "higher" consciousness. The body is quite convenient, and necessary for causation in this world. |