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will they crash that pos into the ocean already ?
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...

True, but one would expect similar advances in both areas, and we have not seen this.
I am telling you whether you believe me or not that this does not make sense, that we would be using this same basic technology 1200 years later with absolutely no real advancement on the basic level, oxidizing a propellant and using the escaping gasses to propel the vehicle.
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Truly revolutionary advances in technology will commence when we rediscover the truth of the Geostatic Model. Current cosmology is stuck in the technological mud of Copernican Heliocentrism, not for scientific reasons but for reasons of ideology and politics.
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It is retarded to believe the universe orbits the earth


NUFF SAID.
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Not according to Ernst Mach and many of the greatest scientists who ever lived. Of course, you know better.
 Quoting: Et Sano


Apparently.

And who judged him great? It wasn't me. I think he is a religious fanatic of some type.
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will they crash that pos into the ocean already ?
grumpy2
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What if it lands on your house?

Dont discount the possibility. I had pieces of a space shuttle land on my property. Hundreds of Texans did. We had a sheriff who was caught selling pieces of it on ebay
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ISS is not actually in space, it is still in the earth,s upper atmosphere because it could never withstand the vacuum of the outer darkness, ie. space
 Quoting: lightladder


The difference between the pressure of low earth orbit and deep space is negligible, so you're wrong about that. And yes, it's in space, it's over 100 km in altitude. That is the internationally accepted line of space. How many times do I have to say this?


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pathetique that you actually endeavour to do this

iss in thermosphere

thermosphere is of the earth's atmosphere

therefore iss is in the earth's atmosphere and not space
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It’s time the truth was made public.

We live under a firmament. And in a crater on a tremendous surface - in fact, look at the moon and you will be seeing the map of our realm.

Does it matter if round or flat? Not when your entire history has been lied about.

Not only lied to, but made slaves and the captors stealing the sweat of our brows to SETTLE ANOTHER CIVILIZATION - in another crater!

We live in Selpicius Gallus-M and TPTB are traveling with Musk to take supplies and materials to their fucking crater.

I’m sure they will turn the lights out when they go — like they did when murdering the previous people in THAT system?
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It’s time the truth was made public.

We live under a firmament. And in a crater on a tremendous surface - in fact, look at the moon and you will be seeing the map of our realm.

Does it matter if round or flat? Not when your entire history has been lied about.

Not only lied to, but made slaves and the captors stealing the sweat of our brows to SETTLE ANOTHER CIVILIZATION - in another crater!

We live in Selpicius Gallus-M and TPTB are traveling with Musk to take supplies and materials to their fucking crater.

I’m sure they will turn the lights out when they go — like they did when murdering the previous people in THAT system?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80943745


the status quo loves loon lunacy like this

whether honest delusion or disingenuous well poisoning

iss not in space
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op or a shadow mod is soft banning people using cloudflare
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Space Karen?

:)
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op or a shadow mod is soft banning people using cloudflare
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Cf is corrupt.
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Seems legit, if you ask me.
It's something you would expect from a deranged, brain-popping bitch.
These American bitches should just stay in the kitchen...

cool2
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So you're a "make me a sandwich and wrap your lips around my c***" kind a guy, huh?

Those days are over , my friend.

These women these days are militant feminists.
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cruise
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Amazon Woman on the Moon?

epiclol
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Regarding anyone developing psychotic problems in space, I wonder if they are simply short of iodine in their diet, which is essential for proper brain function.

Anytime mankind has altered his diet because of modern technology, he tends to get too little of some nutrients.

Everything an astronaut eats has been provided by NASA. Probably not enough salt and iodine etc.

Can't cheat on your diet and run home to wolf down 10 lbs of chili or beef stew. You have to eat the freeze dried gerbil food they give you in those little pouches.
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Space is Bull Shit so this is a lie .
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Don't tell that to the astronauts, they're really committed to the lie.
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Jokes aside.

Russians for sure do not like to lose customers, but it is also plausible that considering USA they were aware that it is only matter of time before USA does not come back with own lift.

I think it should be looked upon as just another episode in the unfortunate but rapid race to open conflict between various powers.
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[imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] :bsgairlock:
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[imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] :bsgairlock:
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This isn't that far fetched considering that former NASA female astronaut who drove across the country in a diaper to kill the other astronaut.
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Can't even escape drama in space.
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Especially when you place emotionally stunted women there for woke purposes.
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Knowing the cynical way the US Government behaves, I don't rule out the possibility that the sabotage was planned at the Pentagon
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"Russia threatens criminal charges against a NASA astronaut"

False. No agency under the State of the Russian Federation has threatened to bring criminal charges against
anyone. Neither Roscosmos spokesperson nor any law enforcement official have publicly stated such a thing.

In none of the first 5 paragraphs of the Ars Technica article (11/30/2021) is there evidence of the existence
of any threat carried out by a Russian official.

In the aforementioned article we read:

"(...) Roscosmos told the Russian publication RIA Novosti that it has sent the results of the investigation
to law enforcement officials. 'All results of the investigation regarding the hole in the habitation module
of the Soyuz MS-09 spacecraft were transmitted to Law Enforcement officials, 'Roscosmos said. No further
details were provided." (Ars Technica, 11/30/2021, second paragraph)

In other words, Roscosmos has forwarded the results of its investigation to a Russian judicial body. Period.
Nothing more. Whether or not that judicial body decides to take some kind of legal action remains to be seen. Where
is the alleged threat? Nowhere. Who has threatened anyone? Nobody.

It follows:

"Since then, the focus has been on what — or who — may have caused the hole. A micrometeoroid strike was soon
ruled out. Some Russian media reported that the hole had been caused by a manufacturing or testing defect, and
this seems to be the most plausible theory. At the same time, however, sources in the Russian government started
baseless rumors that perhaps a disgruntled NASA astronaut had drilled the hole." (Ars Technica, 11/30/2021, sixth paragraph)


In this sixth paragraph there is a link to a previous Ars Technica article (8/13/2021):

"Russia's space program just threw a NASA astronaut under the bus" where, supposedly, the reader should find the
evidence that "(.. .) Russian government started baseless rumors (...) " about the NASA astronaut

Let's go, then, to that previous article by Ars Technica (8/13/2021),where we should find the alleged evidence that
"(...) Russian government started baseless rumors (...)":

"Russia's state-owned news service, TASS, has published an extraordinary defamatory article about NASA astronaut
Serena Auñón-Chancellor. The publication claims that Auñón-Chancellor had an emotional breakdown in space, then
damaged a Russian spacecraft in order to return early." (Ars Technica (8/13/2021), first paragraph).

"In the report published Thursday, however, TASS reopens the case. The format of the story is such that journalist
Mikhail Kotov interviews an anonymous" high-ranking official in the Russian space industry. "Based upon the comments
made by this person, the source is probably the head of the Russian space corporation, Roscosmos,
Dmitry Rogozin ". (Ars Technica, 8/13/2021, seventh paragraph).

This is the alleged evidence: the claim that the "high-ranking official in the Russian space industry (...) is
probably the head of the Russian space corporation, Roscosmos, Dmitry Rogozin."

Fact, evidence, arguments to affirm it? None.

And it is that these Russians are really perfidious because, in the aforementioned TASS interview
( [link to tass-ru.translate.goog (secure)] this "probable Rogozin"
talks about himself same, in the third person:

"Dmitry Rogozin, the general director of Roscosmos, has repeatedly stated at meetings that it is easier to demolish
everything and build a new one than to try to remake the old one. It is on Vostochny that the manned infrastructure
for the new ship is being deployed, and in 2023 the Russian Federation is preparing the first flight design tests
of the Oryol spacecraft. " (TASS, 8/22/2021, fourth paragraph)

Nah! Russian propaganda tactics! It sure is Rogozin posing as someone else! Evidence? That is what an American
journalist affirms ... without proof ... because he gets off his balls!

The funny thing is that this self-described journalist from Ars Technica doesn't even consider discussing NASA's behavior
in the investigation. Because according to "that Rogozin":

"Firstly, the illness of the female astronaut, which is the first known incident of deep vein thrombosis in orbit, and the
fact that Serena Maria Auñón-Chancellor had suffered the condition was published in a scientific article only
after she had returned to Earth. This could have provoked 'an acute psychological crisis', which could have led to
attempts by various means to speed up her return to the planet, according to my anonymous source.

Secondly, for some reason unknown to Roscosmos, the video camera at the junction of the Russian and American segments
was not working at that time.

Thirdly, the Americans refused to perform a polygraph examination, while the Russian cosmonauts were polygraphed.

Fourthly, Russia never had an opportunity to study the tools and the drill which are
aboard the ISS to see if there are any signs of metal shavings from the hull of our ship's orbital module.

Finally, and fifthly, of eight holes only one went all the way through the hull. The others were skips of the drill,
which suggests drilling in weightless conditions without needed support. One hole was drilled in the framework
(a transverse rib of the ship's hull), that is, whoever drilled it was not trained in the construction of
the Soyuz MS." (Ars Technica, 8/13/2021, Tranlation of the TASS interview)

The Ars Technica journalist responds by highlighting the speculative nature of the accusations against the NASA
astronaut (which, for once, is legitimate, because no one has shown that the American astronaut had done
anything: suggest without evidence the commission of a crime is defamation), but he limits himself to repeating the
rest of the allegations of the "probable Rogozin" without answering any:

"There are a number of troubling aspects about this article, particularly as it relates to Dr. Auñón-Chancellor, who
was the only female on board the station at the time. First, it publicly reveals her previously undisclosed health
condition on orbit, which was successfully treated upon her return to Earth. Then, the TASS article says such a condition
could have caused a "psychological crisis" that induced her to want to return to Earth early. The Russian theory here is
that, apparently by damaging the Soyuz vehicle, Auñón-Chancellor would impel Russian and NASA authorities to allow her
to fly back to Earth immediately.

Then the article asserts that a video camera that could have shown NASA astronauts entering the Russian segment of the
space station—where the Soyuz vehicle was docked—may have been tampered with. The article also says NASA astronauts
refused a polygraph test about the incident and that Russian cosmonauts were not allowed to assess US tools on the
station that may have been used to drill into the ship's hull." (Ars Technica, 8/13/2021, tenth & eleventh paragraphs)

Conclusions:

1. No Russian, judicial, government, or Roscosmos official has threatened to take legal action against anyone.

2. In the Russian press there has been speculation, without evidence, about the involvement of a NASA astronaut in the
event of 2018. This is irresponsible and unfair. Journalistic malpractice.

3. The Ars Technica articles on this issue claim that Russian officials accuse or are behind the speculation of the
Russian press. This is malicious propaganda. From an interview with an executive of the Russian space industry it is
inferred, illegitimately, that Roscosmos is behind the statements. From a protocol of judicial action, it is
inferred, illegitimately, that some part of the Russian judicial apparatus "threatens" to take action on a NASA
astronaut. This is irresponsible and unfair. Journalistic malpractice.

4. Three or four articles in the Russian press have been enough for the American press to accuse officials of the
Russian Federation of being behind a destabilization campaign related to the ISS. If the Russian press did the same
with the thousands of articles in the American press publishing their speculations about whatever
Russia "intends to do," there would be no space or time to fill the Vatican Library.

5. Regardless of who it may, Russia is going to build its own space station and progressively disengage from the
ISS. This is a strategic objective that goes beyond alleged tricks to get money from NASA. Russia will fulfill
its commitments to the ISS until 2025, and a little longer, but the future of the Russian space program lies in
a purpose of national independence that does not require foreign resources.

A salute.
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Space is Bull Shit so this is a lie .
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Except it's not.
Isscrew2
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That really doesn’t prove anything. Not saying it’s real or not, but that isn’t proof.
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ha ha ha! look at this hideous goblin's "face"

she's guilty as fuck of anything anyone anywhere at any time blames on her
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Space is Bull Shit so this is a lie .
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Except it's not.
:Isscrew2:
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That really doesn’t prove anything. Not saying it’s real or not, but that isn’t proof.
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it's absolutely proof that man has mastered the earth's atmosphere
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Space is Bull Shit so this is a lie .
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Except it's not.
:Isscrew2:
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That really doesn’t prove anything. Not saying it’s real or not, but that isn’t proof.
 Quoting: LitebBrite


It is the evidence that someone (in this case, Astromut) has beeen able to record the movement of an artificial body orbiting the Earth.

If that body does not move according to specific rules, how could be it tracked again and again, in the predicted space and time?

Magic?

Drugs don't let anybody thing with clarity.
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ISS is not actually in space, it is still in the earth,s upper atmosphere because it could never withstand the vacuum of the outer darkness, ie. space
 Quoting: lightladder


The difference between the pressure of low earth orbit and deep space is negligible, so you're wrong about that. And yes, it's in space, it's over 100 km in altitude. That is the internationally accepted line of space. How many times do I have to say this?


 Quoting: Astromut


pathetique that you actually endeavour to do this

iss in thermosphere

thermosphere is of the earth's atmosphere

therefore iss is in the earth's atmosphere and not space
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ISS is in space, it's over 100 km in altitude. That is the internationally accepted line of space. How many times do I have to say this?



By your logic, since all the planets are in the sun's atmosphere, none of them are in space. Your twisted definition is not useful.
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Space is Bull Shit so this is a lie .
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Except it's not.
Isscrew2
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That really doesn’t prove anything. Not saying it’s real or not, but that isn’t proof.
 Quoting: LitebBrite


Wrong. I filmed it myself. Do not accuse me of faking it.
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ha ha ha! look at this hideous goblin's "face"

she's guilty as fuck of anything anyone anywhere at any time blames on her
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You people are sick.
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Russia is threatening criminal charges against NASA astronaut Serena Auñón-Chancellor for allegedly drilling a hole in the Soyuz module back in 2018 while it was docked to ISS. Months ago they violated her privacy by disclosing that she suffered from deep vein thrombosis during her mission and postulated that this caused her to have a mental breakdown and drill a hole in the capsule to force her crew to come back to earth early. Now the conspiracy theory is that she had an unsuccessful attempt at a romantic relationship with another crewmember and this drove her to drill the hole. NASA says they know their astronauts were all on the US side of the station when the leak started and that none of them could even be responsible.

This seems like more baseless retaliation in an attempt to deflect blame after a series of events where Russia has endangered ISS. Russia also seems desperate to pull out of the ISS program after the success of SpaceX's crew Dragon capsule, which has resulted in a dramatic reduction in the number of Soyuz seats that NASA needs to buy to keep at least one NASA astronaut on ISS at all times. NASA has also been bargaining to do ride sharing where one cosmonaut will occasionally ride on the crew Dragon paid for by NASA in exchange for one NASA astronaut riding on Soyuz paid for by Russia. This means even less direct money transfers to the Russian space program, and frankly they became dependent on it during and after the end of the shuttle program. Now they seem to be doing everything they can to sabotage the relationship that built the ISS in an attempt to free themselves of their obligations to fly Soyuz and Progress capsules on a routine basis.
[link to arstechnica.com (secure)]
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bsflag
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Yes, and this is what is baffling to me.

Rocketry is like 1200 years old. Compare the electronics of 800 Ad with now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81367292

Apples and oranges.
 Quoting: Astromut

True, but one would expect similar advances in both areas, and we have not seen this.
I am telling you whether you believe me or not that this does not make sense, that we would be using this same basic technology 1200 years later with absolutely no real advancement on the basic level, oxidizing a propellant and using the escaping gasses to propel the vehicle.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81367292


Truly revolutionary advances in technology will commence when we rediscover the truth of the Geostatic Model. Current cosmology is stuck in the technological mud of Copernican Heliocentrism, not for scientific reasons but for reasons of ideology and politics.
 Quoting: Et Sano

Holy shit you really are stupid. Ok, you're done on my threads.
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