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I filmed that myself. There are no strings. I will offer you one chance to prove your claim by taking remote control of my telescope as it tracks the space station so that you can control it in real time for yourself and see that it is not fake. Do you accept my offer? Yes or no?
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I have a question for you since you seem to be the forums expert on the subject of space travel.

In 1969 we had rotary dial pulse tone telephones and if you wanted to call someone while out an about you either needed a pay phone or a radio transmitter that relayed calls through another stationary transceiver.

50 years later, we have pocket computers that allow us to talk to or transmit data to anyone else on earth who has a similar device.

Compare this to the progress we have made in space travel in the same 50 years. Doesn't really seem like much, does it?

When I was a boy and watched the moon landings on TV I assumed I would at least live to see interplanetary space travel, and yet we don't even have a capability to leave low earth orbit. The space station doesn't impress me.

What I want to ask you is how you would explain the disparity between the advances made in electronics and technology, and yet the seemingly backward step we have taken in space travel.

One of two things is true, either the advanced technology isn't Terran in origin, or we never actually have left low earth orbit. One would fully expect if a manned lunar landing took place in 1969 that by now interplanetary space travel would be routine. What I am saying is I see no significant advances being made in space travel but I do see a lot of money being spent on it. I see a lot of claims being made of successes I have no way to verify to justify these expenditures. How you answer a person who says the people should not be funding something that benefits none of them in any significant way?

What do I care about the space station? What is actually being accomplished?
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I'd really like to see your input on this. I strongly believe that there was a sudden leap in electronic technology that cannot be explained by the expected advancement of technology.
This seems apparent because for instance we are still flying in planes and driving cars that are essentially unchanged besides the inclusion of these advanced electronics. We went from requiring a large room to store the data contained on a fingernail sized chip in 50 years, and we still aren't engaged in interplanetary space travel. I am baffled. I am convinced we either are not allowed to leave, or already are on a routine basis and all of the visible space exploration using ancient rocket technology is a cover.
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Advances in computer technology do not equate to advances in the fundamentals of rocket technology. The Saturn V was more powerful than anything we currently launch, though that is about to change. We still fly in jets, same as 50 years ago. The materials are more advanced, the computers and navigation are way more advanced, but at the end of the day it's still the same fundamentals of propulsion technology.
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Then you are an idiot, straight up. No question about it. A complete idiot who is falling for Russian propaganda. The store uses on their side of the space station and to drill through it would require a power drill and making a shitload of noise everyone would hear. Have you seen what Russian space production facilities are like these days, people are sneaking in there at night unopposed! Somebody drilled that hole on the ground and realized they fucked up and tried to patch it. The patch didn't hold and the rest is history.
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No need to get nasty. The fact is that we don't know who is responsible. I still think the Russians will be vindicated. They have no reason to lie about this,
 Quoting: Et Sano

Yes, they do. They ABSOLUTELY do. They are under fire for all the fuckups they have been doing to ISS for months now, they have EVERY REASON TO LIE AND DEFLECT FROM LAUNCHING A SPACECRAFT WITH A BADLY PATCHED HOLE IN IT.
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Well, we will just have to let the process play out then. The truth will eventually come out.
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No, it won't. Pursuing criminal charges against our astronaut driven by sexist stereotypes isn't going to help anything either. We will never know who fucked it up, because whoever it was they aren't a suitable scapegoat for Russia.
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Russia is threatening criminal charges against NASA astronaut Serena Auñón-Chancellor for allegedly drilling a hole in the Soyuz module back in 2018 while it was docked to ISS. Months ago they violated her privacy by disclosing that she suffered from deep vein thrombosis during her mission and postulated that this caused her to have a mental breakdown and drill a hole in the capsule to force her crew to come back to earth early. Now the conspiracy theory is that she had an unsuccessful attempt at a romantic relationship with another crewmember and this drove her to drill the hole. NASA says they know their astronauts were all on the US side of the station when the leak started and that none of them could even be responsible.

This seems like more baseless retaliation in an attempt to deflect blame after a series of events where Russia has endangered ISS. Russia also seems desperate to pull out of the ISS program after the success of SpaceX's crew Dragon capsule, which has resulted in a dramatic reduction in the number of Soyuz seats that NASA needs to buy to keep at least one NASA astronaut on ISS at all times. NASA has also been bargaining to do ride sharing where one cosmonaut will occasionally ride on the crew Dragon paid for by NASA in exchange for one NASA astronaut riding on Soyuz paid for by Russia. This means even less direct money transfers to the Russian space program, and frankly they became dependent on it during and after the end of the shuttle program. Now they seem to be doing everything they can to sabotage the relationship that built the ISS in an attempt to free themselves of their obligations to fly Soyuz and Progress capsules on a routine basis.
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This is bullshit satire lying crap... drilled a hole in the module... in a vacuum of space, in a pressurized cabin..
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Apparently you weren't alive for all of the theatrics of the "cold war".

Khrushchev beating his shoe on the table at the UN is etched indelibly in my mind, and that guy looked like a Klingon.



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I have a question for you since you seem to be the forums expert on the subject of space travel.

In 1969 we had rotary dial pulse tone telephones and if you wanted to call someone while out an about you either needed a pay phone or a radio transmitter that relayed calls through another stationary transceiver.

50 years later, we have pocket computers that allow us to talk to or transmit data to anyone else on earth who has a similar device.

Compare this to the progress we have made in space travel in the same 50 years. Doesn't really seem like much, does it?

When I was a boy and watched the moon landings on TV I assumed I would at least live to see interplanetary space travel, and yet we don't even have a capability to leave low earth orbit. The space station doesn't impress me.

What I want to ask you is how you would explain the disparity between the advances made in electronics and technology, and yet the seemingly backward step we have taken in space travel.

One of two things is true, either the advanced technology isn't Terran in origin, or we never actually have left low earth orbit. One would fully expect if a manned lunar landing took place in 1969 that by now interplanetary space travel would be routine. What I am saying is I see no significant advances being made in space travel but I do see a lot of money being spent on it. I see a lot of claims being made of successes I have no way to verify to justify these expenditures. How you answer a person who says the people should not be funding something that benefits none of them in any significant way?

What do I care about the space station? What is actually being accomplished?
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I'd really like to see your input on this. I strongly believe that there was a sudden leap in electronic technology that cannot be explained by the expected advancement of technology.
This seems apparent because for instance we are still flying in planes and driving cars that are essentially unchanged besides the inclusion of these advanced electronics. We went from requiring a large room to store the data contained on a fingernail sized chip in 50 years, and we still aren't engaged in interplanetary space travel. I am baffled. I am convinced we either are not allowed to leave, or already are on a routine basis and all of the visible space exploration using ancient rocket technology is a cover.
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Advances in computer technology do not equate to advances in the fundamentals of rocket technology. The Saturn V was more powerful than anything we currently launch, though that is about to change. We still fly in jets, same as 50 years ago. The materials are more advanced, the computers and navigation are way more advanced, but at the end of the day it's still the same fundamentals of propulsion technology.
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Yes, and this is what is baffling to me.

Rocketry is like 1200 years old. Compare the electronics of 800 Ad with now.
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Seems legit, if you ask me.
It's something you would expect from a deranged, brain-popping bitch.
These American bitches should just stay in the kitchen...

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Seems legit, if you ask me.
It's something you would expect from a deranged, brain-popping bitch.
These American bitches should just stay in the kitchen...

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So you're a "make me a sandwich and wrap your lips around my c***" kind a guy, huh?

Those days are over , my friend.

These women these days are militant feminists.
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Has absolutely NOTHING to do with the thread.
I believe in science NOT religion. Giving me bad karma for that, is anti-religious (you're passing judgement) I am just a man. Of no significance. Who found religion to be full of lies, and wrong doing, conflicted teachings
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I'd really like to see your input on this. I strongly believe that there was a sudden leap in electronic technology that cannot be explained by the expected advancement of technology.
This seems apparent because for instance we are still flying in planes and driving cars that are essentially unchanged besides the inclusion of these advanced electronics. We went from requiring a large room to store the data contained on a fingernail sized chip in 50 years, and we still aren't engaged in interplanetary space travel. I am baffled. I am convinced we either are not allowed to leave, or already are on a routine basis and all of the visible space exploration using ancient rocket technology is a cover.
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Advances in computer technology do not equate to advances in the fundamentals of rocket technology. The Saturn V was more powerful than anything we currently launch, though that is about to change. We still fly in jets, same as 50 years ago. The materials are more advanced, the computers and navigation are way more advanced, but at the end of the day it's still the same fundamentals of propulsion technology.
 Quoting: Astromut

Yes, and this is what is baffling to me.

Rocketry is like 1200 years old. Compare the electronics of 800 Ad with now.
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Rocket propulsion depends on conservation of momentum, so it's about how fast you can shoot the mass out the nozzle to make the capsule go the other way. One good fuel is mixing hydrogen and oxygen and ejecting the resulting steam, if you can control that reaction. There isn't that much new chemistry since 50 years ago, so we still depend on the same reactions then. Perhaps we can control them a bit better.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81367292

Advances in computer technology do not equate to advances in the fundamentals of rocket technology. The Saturn V was more powerful than anything we currently launch, though that is about to change. We still fly in jets, same as 50 years ago. The materials are more advanced, the computers and navigation are way more advanced, but at the end of the day it's still the same fundamentals of propulsion technology.
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Yes, and this is what is baffling to me.

Rocketry is like 1200 years old. Compare the electronics of 800 Ad with now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81367292


Rocket propulsion depends on conservation of momentum, so it's about how fast you can shoot the mass out the nozzle to make the capsule go the other way. One good fuel is mixing hydrogen and oxygen and ejecting the resulting steam, if you can control that reaction. There isn't that much new chemistry since 50 years ago, so we still depend on the same reactions then. Perhaps we can control them a bit better.
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What if I told you that I had personally built a prototype of a vehicle from UAV parts I bought on Ebay that in principle and in reality works well, is relatively energy efficient, and makes more sense than any rocket engine and is based on the simplest concepts of Newtonian physics?

What if I told you I am certain others have thought of the the same thing, since it is so simple in nature? What if I told you the black triangle is an implementation of this design?

It seems to me a lot is being hidden from us, the cattle.
We have educated people that know so much and can think so little.
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Space is Bull Shit so this is a lie .
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Except it's not.
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Right he is.
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I'd really like to see your input on this. I strongly believe that there was a sudden leap in electronic technology that cannot be explained by the expected advancement of technology.
This seems apparent because for instance we are still flying in planes and driving cars that are essentially unchanged besides the inclusion of these advanced electronics. We went from requiring a large room to store the data contained on a fingernail sized chip in 50 years, and we still aren't engaged in interplanetary space travel. I am baffled. I am convinced we either are not allowed to leave, or already are on a routine basis and all of the visible space exploration using ancient rocket technology is a cover.
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Advances in computer technology do not equate to advances in the fundamentals of rocket technology. The Saturn V was more powerful than anything we currently launch, though that is about to change. We still fly in jets, same as 50 years ago. The materials are more advanced, the computers and navigation are way more advanced, but at the end of the day it's still the same fundamentals of propulsion technology.
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Yes, and this is what is baffling to me.

Rocketry is like 1200 years old. Compare the electronics of 800 Ad with now.
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Apples and oranges.
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why can't they plug the hole. Duck tape works wonders!
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The hole is no longer the issue, the Soyuz capsule with the hole came back months ago. The hole was in the orbital module that is disposed of before the re-entry capsule brings the cosmonauts home.
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Space is not real dumbo
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ISS is not actually in space, it is still in the earth,s upper atmosphere because it could never withstand the vacuum of the outer darkness, ie. space
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ISS is not actually in space, it is still in the earth,s upper atmosphere because it could never withstand the vacuum of the outer darkness, ie. space
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The difference between the pressure of low earth orbit and deep space is negligible, so you're wrong about that. And yes, it's in space, it's over 100 km in altitude. That is the internationally accepted line of space. How many times do I have to say this?


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why can't they plug the hole. Duck tape works wonders!
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The hole is no longer the issue, the Soyuz capsule with the hole came back months ago. The hole was in the orbital module that is disposed of before the re-entry capsule brings the cosmonauts home.
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Space is not real dumbo
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Yes, it is.
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Has absolutely NOTHING to do with the thread.
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I disagree. He is the dictator of russia and this story was ok'd by him for a purpose.
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Russia is threatening criminal charges against NASA astronaut Serena Auñón-Chancellor for allegedly drilling a hole in the Soyuz module back in 2018 while it was docked to ISS. Months ago they violated her privacy by disclosing that she suffered from deep vein thrombosis during her mission and postulated that this caused her to have a mental breakdown and drill a hole in the capsule to force her crew to come back to earth early. Now the conspiracy theory is that she had an unsuccessful attempt at a romantic relationship with another crewmember and this drove her to drill the hole. NASA says they know their astronauts were all on the US side of the station when the leak started and that none of them could even be responsible.

This seems like more baseless retaliation in an attempt to deflect blame after a series of events where Russia has endangered ISS. Russia also seems desperate to pull out of the ISS program after the success of SpaceX's crew Dragon capsule, which has resulted in a dramatic reduction in the number of Soyuz seats that NASA needs to buy to keep at least one NASA astronaut on ISS at all times. NASA has also been bargaining to do ride sharing where one cosmonaut will occasionally ride on the crew Dragon paid for by NASA in exchange for one NASA astronaut riding on Soyuz paid for by Russia. This means even less direct money transfers to the Russian space program, and frankly they became dependent on it during and after the end of the shuttle program. Now they seem to be doing everything they can to sabotage the relationship that built the ISS in an attempt to free themselves of their obligations to fly Soyuz and Progress capsules on a routine basis.
[link to arstechnica.com (secure)]
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Shill article

Nobody knows the truth, but you can immediately see it's very anti-Russian in tone.

It's pointless accusation without hearing the Russian side.
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I’ve heard the Russian side and it seemed quite credible. She WAS oustide the soyuz on a space walk WITH the drill.
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Hahaha, that is the most retarded shit I've ever heard on GLP and that's saying something. At no point during expedition 56 and 57 did she ever perform a spacewalk. You just made shit up and pulled it straight out of your ass.
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I don't know the details of the story

But I know psychology

And it looks like you already made up your mind, you're not here to discuss, you're here to impose your point of view (shill neocon agenda)

Goodbye
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Crazy bitches shouldn't be astronauts in the first place. Drilling holes and shit.
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Advances in computer technology do not equate to advances in the fundamentals of rocket technology. The Saturn V was more powerful than anything we currently launch, though that is about to change. We still fly in jets, same as 50 years ago. The materials are more advanced, the computers and navigation are way more advanced, but at the end of the day it's still the same fundamentals of propulsion technology.
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Yes, and this is what is baffling to me.

Rocketry is like 1200 years old. Compare the electronics of 800 Ad with now.
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Apples and oranges.
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True, but one would expect similar advances in both areas, and we have not seen this.
I am telling you whether you believe me or not that this does not make sense, that we would be using this same basic technology 1200 years later with absolutely no real advancement on the basic level, oxidizing a propellant and using the escaping gasses to propel the vehicle.
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Maybe a carpenter bee. I assume the Russian spacecraft is made of wood. :)


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Russia is threatening criminal charges against NASA astronaut Serena Auñón-Chancellor for allegedly drilling a hole in the Soyuz module back in 2018 while it was docked to ISS. Months ago they violated her privacy by disclosing that she suffered from deep vein thrombosis during her mission and postulated that this caused her to have a mental breakdown and drill a hole in the capsule to force her crew to come back to earth early. Now the conspiracy theory is that she had an unsuccessful attempt at a romantic relationship with another crewmember and this drove her to drill the hole. NASA says they know their astronauts were all on the US side of the station when the leak started and that none of them could even be responsible.

This seems like more baseless retaliation in an attempt to deflect blame after a series of events where Russia has endangered ISS. Russia also seems desperate to pull out of the ISS program after the success of SpaceX's crew Dragon capsule, which has resulted in a dramatic reduction in the number of Soyuz seats that NASA needs to buy to keep at least one NASA astronaut on ISS at all times. NASA has also been bargaining to do ride sharing where one cosmonaut will occasionally ride on the crew Dragon paid for by NASA in exchange for one NASA astronaut riding on Soyuz paid for by Russia. This means even less direct money transfers to the Russian space program, and frankly they became dependent on it during and after the end of the shuttle program. Now they seem to be doing everything they can to sabotage the relationship that built the ISS in an attempt to free themselves of their obligations to fly Soyuz and Progress capsules on a routine basis.
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Bot oh boy, the ratcheting up of global tensions has really taken off... It's literally everywhere in the news...

I'm sure their answer that we need unelected oligarchs controlled by the UN to settle such matters... And if you read what Klause Schwab has been saying lately, this is exactly what is being pushed.

Speaking to the point directly, I've known some crazy women that do some crazy shit in the name of love... But who knows what the real story is? It's not like any of them tell the truth to the public...
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ISS is not actually in space, it is still in the earth,s upper atmosphere because it could never withstand the vacuum of the outer darkness, ie. space
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The difference between the pressure of low earth orbit and deep space is negligible, so you're wrong about that. And yes, it's in space, it's over 100 km in altitude. That is the internationally accepted line of space. How many times do I have to say this?


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This reminds me of when people claimed the pneumatic tires of the space Tesla would explode in space due to the extreme pressure. the fact is the tires would need no more pressure in them in space than on earth, they'd just have to have less air in them to create the same pressure differential
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Advances in computer technology do not equate to advances in the fundamentals of rocket technology. The Saturn V was more powerful than anything we currently launch, though that is about to change. We still fly in jets, same as 50 years ago. The materials are more advanced, the computers and navigation are way more advanced, but at the end of the day it's still the same fundamentals of propulsion technology.
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Yes, and this is what is baffling to me.

Rocketry is like 1200 years old. Compare the electronics of 800 Ad with now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81367292

Apples and oranges.
 Quoting: Astromut

True, but one would expect similar advances in both areas, and we have not seen this.
I am telling you whether you believe me or not that this does not make sense, that we would be using this same basic technology 1200 years later with absolutely no real advancement on the basic level, oxidizing a propellant and using the escaping gasses to propel the vehicle.
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Truly revolutionary advances in technology will commence when we rediscover the truth of the Geostatic Model. Current cosmology is stuck in the technological mud of Copernican Heliocentrism, not for scientific reasons but for reasons of ideology and politics.
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Maybe a carpenter bee. I assume the Russian spacecraft is made of wood. :)


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Yes, and this is what is baffling to me.

Rocketry is like 1200 years old. Compare the electronics of 800 Ad with now.
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Apples and oranges.
 Quoting: Astromut

True, but one would expect similar advances in both areas, and we have not seen this.
I am telling you whether you believe me or not that this does not make sense, that we would be using this same basic technology 1200 years later with absolutely no real advancement on the basic level, oxidizing a propellant and using the escaping gasses to propel the vehicle.
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Truly revolutionary advances in technology will commence when we rediscover the truth of the Geostatic Model. Current cosmology is stuck in the technological mud of Copernican Heliocentrism, not for scientific reasons but for reasons of ideology and politics.
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It is retarded to believe the universe orbits the earth


NUFF SAID.
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Astromut I respect your space knowledge and postings here ... but the reality of THIS situation is that we just do NO KNOW enough about the facts of this case to sit here on the ground and make a call as to "IF" the Russians are right or wrong.

We clearly KNOW that at least one US Female Astronaut has in the past gone off the "Sane" Reservation, which occured AFTER all the psychological assessments that the US did wrt her ... and that the woman the Russians are accusing had an issue of some sort, be it medical or psychological we don't know, that was documented shortly after her trip.

We also do know that the very small hole WAS drilled from the inside, but again from here do NOT know if it was mostly drilled through BEFORE the module was sent into space and then failed or if it occured AFTER the module was in space.

What we do know is that the Russians made this claim about this specific US female astronaut some time ago (not the potential criminal charge which is new) and apparently firmly believe it.

Your defense of this astronaut is more emotional than fact based at this point in time.

Time to leave this in the UNKNOWN category since we just do not know, and in fact it almost impossible for those of us this remote from the actual situation and the people involved to even fairly speculate on what happened.

Keep up your good postings ... but for you this issue is clearly an emotional one.
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Apples and oranges.
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True, but one would expect similar advances in both areas, and we have not seen this.
I am telling you whether you believe me or not that this does not make sense, that we would be using this same basic technology 1200 years later with absolutely no real advancement on the basic level, oxidizing a propellant and using the escaping gasses to propel the vehicle.
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Truly revolutionary advances in technology will commence when we rediscover the truth of the Geostatic Model. Current cosmology is stuck in the technological mud of Copernican Heliocentrism, not for scientific reasons but for reasons of ideology and politics.
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It is retarded to believe the universe orbits the earth


NUFF SAID.
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Not according to Ernst Mach and many of the greatest scientists who ever lived. Of course, you know better.
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Astromut I respect your space knowledge and postings here ... but the reality of THIS situation is that we just do NO KNOW enough about the facts of this case to sit here on the ground and make a call as to "IF" the Russians are right or wrong.

We clearly KNOW that at least one US Female Astronaut has in the past gone off the "Sane" Reservation, which occured AFTER all the psychological assessments that the US did wrt her ... and that the woman the Russians are accusing had an issue of some sort, be it medical or psychological we don't know, that was documented shortly after her trip.

We also do know that the very small hole WAS drilled from the inside, but again from here do NOT know if it was mostly drilled through BEFORE the module was sent into space and then failed or if it occured AFTER the module was in space.

What we do know is that the Russians made this claim about this specific US female astronaut some time ago (not the potential criminal charge which is new) and apparently firmly believe it.

Your defense of this astronaut is more emotional than fact based at this point in time.

Time to leave this in the UNKNOWN category since we just do not know, and in fact it almost impossible for those of us this remote from the actual situation and the people involved to even fairly speculate on what happened.

Keep up your good postings ... but for you this issue is clearly an emotional one.
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Russian love this kind of intrigue. It goes back to the cold war.

Putin is a hard line communist dictator, let that sink in. He is not a conservative christian.





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