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Space is Bull Shit so this is a lie .
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space is the absence of any density of matter or what is between objects and I assure you, it exists


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Russia is threatening criminal charges against NASA astronaut Serena Auñón-Chancellor for allegedly drilling a hole in the Soyuz module back in 2018 while it was docked to ISS. Months ago they violated her privacy by disclosing that she suffered from deep vein thrombosis during her mission and postulated that this caused her to have a mental breakdown and drill a hole in the capsule to force her crew to come back to earth early. Now the conspiracy theory is that she had an unsuccessful attempt at a romantic relationship with another crewmember and this drove her to drill the hole. NASA says they know their astronauts were all on the US side of the station when the leak started and that none of them could even be responsible.

This seems like more baseless retaliation in an attempt to deflect blame after a series of events where Russia has endangered ISS. Russia also seems desperate to pull out of the ISS program after the success of SpaceX's crew Dragon capsule, which has resulted in a dramatic reduction in the number of Soyuz seats that NASA needs to buy to keep at least one NASA astronaut on ISS at all times. NASA has also been bargaining to do ride sharing where one cosmonaut will occasionally ride on the crew Dragon paid for by NASA in exchange for one NASA astronaut riding on Soyuz paid for by Russia. This means even less direct money transfers to the Russian space program, and frankly they became dependent on it during and after the end of the shuttle program. Now they seem to be doing everything they can to sabotage the relationship that built the ISS in an attempt to free themselves of their obligations to fly Soyuz and Progress capsules on a routine basis.
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 Quoting: Astromut


I'd take Russia at their word on this one. Don't underestimate the depravity of Team Neocon and their hatred of Russia and Putin. Fucking around with Space exploration should be off limits, especially since Russia has allowed us to use their rockets and Soyuz all these years even during the height of the anti-Russian Western campaign during the Trump years and even earlier under Obama.
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I truly respect the Russian people for having survived so many tyrants and so much abuse and to still have their spirit intact, but putin is a fetid cunt of a totalitarian communist dictator.
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Putin comes in the tradition of White Russia, Orthodox Russia - the Russia that existed for hundreds of years before the ancestors of Team Neocon decided to violently overthrow Russian in 1917 using the same tactics of "color revolution" that they used to overthrow Ukraine in 2014. Putin and Christian Russia should be America's best friend. Instead, we have let a few decrepit Elites hijack that relationship. In a sane world, America and Russia would engage in unhindered trade and we would already have launched a joint mission to establish a permanent base on the Moon.
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Russia is threatening criminal charges against NASA astronaut Serena Auñón-Chancellor for allegedly drilling a hole in the Soyuz module back in 2018 while it was docked to ISS. Months ago they violated her privacy by disclosing that she suffered from deep vein thrombosis during her mission and postulated that this caused her to have a mental breakdown and drill a hole in the capsule to force her crew to come back to earth early. Now the conspiracy theory is that she had an unsuccessful attempt at a romantic relationship with another crewmember and this drove her to drill the hole. NASA says they know their astronauts were all on the US side of the station when the leak started and that none of them could even be responsible.

This seems like more baseless retaliation in an attempt to deflect blame after a series of events where Russia has endangered ISS. Russia also seems desperate to pull out of the ISS program after the success of SpaceX's crew Dragon capsule, which has resulted in a dramatic reduction in the number of Soyuz seats that NASA needs to buy to keep at least one NASA astronaut on ISS at all times. NASA has also been bargaining to do ride sharing where one cosmonaut will occasionally ride on the crew Dragon paid for by NASA in exchange for one NASA astronaut riding on Soyuz paid for by Russia. This means even less direct money transfers to the Russian space program, and frankly they became dependent on it during and after the end of the shuttle program. Now they seem to be doing everything they can to sabotage the relationship that built the ISS in an attempt to free themselves of their obligations to fly Soyuz and Progress capsules on a routine basis.
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 Quoting: Astromut


I'd take Russia at their word on this one.
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Then you are an idiot, straight up. No question about it. A complete idiot who is falling for Russian propaganda. The store uses on their side of the space station and to drill through it would require a power drill and making a shitload of noise everyone would hear. Have you seen what Russian space production facilities are like these days, people are sneaking in there at night unopposed! Somebody drilled that hole on the ground and realized they fucked up and tried to patch it. The patch didn't hold and the rest is history.
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that bitch had pass the tests, so the tests, at least about bitches are wrong

bitches are not capable for high stress positions like fighter pilots or first line soldiers or astronauts

when problems arise they fucked up
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Russia is threatening criminal charges against NASA astronaut Serena Auñón-Chancellor for allegedly drilling a hole in the Soyuz module back in 2018 while it was docked to ISS. Months ago they violated her privacy by disclosing that she suffered from deep vein thrombosis during her mission and postulated that this caused her to have a mental breakdown and drill a hole in the capsule to force her crew to come back to earth early. Now the conspiracy theory is that she had an unsuccessful attempt at a romantic relationship with another crewmember and this drove her to drill the hole. NASA says they know their astronauts were all on the US side of the station when the leak started and that none of them could even be responsible.

This seems like more baseless retaliation in an attempt to deflect blame after a series of events where Russia has endangered ISS. Russia also seems desperate to pull out of the ISS program after the success of SpaceX's crew Dragon capsule, which has resulted in a dramatic reduction in the number of Soyuz seats that NASA needs to buy to keep at least one NASA astronaut on ISS at all times. NASA has also been bargaining to do ride sharing where one cosmonaut will occasionally ride on the crew Dragon paid for by NASA in exchange for one NASA astronaut riding on Soyuz paid for by Russia. This means even less direct money transfers to the Russian space program, and frankly they became dependent on it during and after the end of the shuttle program. Now they seem to be doing everything they can to sabotage the relationship that built the ISS in an attempt to free themselves of their obligations to fly Soyuz and Progress capsules on a routine basis.
[link to arstechnica.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Astromut

Shill article

Nobody knows the truth, but you can immediately see it's very anti-Russian in tone.

It's pointless accusation without hearing the Russian side.
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I’ve heard the Russian side and it seemed quite credible. She WAS oustide the soyuz on a space walk WITH the drill.
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Hahaha, that is the most retarded shit I've ever heard on GLP and that's saying something. At no point during expedition 56 and 57 did she ever perform a spacewalk. You just made shit up and pulled it straight out of your ass.
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Russia is threatening criminal charges against NASA astronaut Serena Auñón-Chancellor for allegedly drilling a hole in the Soyuz module back in 2018 while it was docked to ISS. Months ago they violated her privacy by disclosing that she suffered from deep vein thrombosis during her mission and postulated that this caused her to have a mental breakdown and drill a hole in the capsule to force her crew to come back to earth early. Now the conspiracy theory is that she had an unsuccessful attempt at a romantic relationship with another crewmember and this drove her to drill the hole. NASA says they know their astronauts were all on the US side of the station when the leak started and that none of them could even be responsible.

This seems like more baseless retaliation in an attempt to deflect blame after a series of events where Russia has endangered ISS. Russia also seems desperate to pull out of the ISS program after the success of SpaceX's crew Dragon capsule, which has resulted in a dramatic reduction in the number of Soyuz seats that NASA needs to buy to keep at least one NASA astronaut on ISS at all times. NASA has also been bargaining to do ride sharing where one cosmonaut will occasionally ride on the crew Dragon paid for by NASA in exchange for one NASA astronaut riding on Soyuz paid for by Russia. This means even less direct money transfers to the Russian space program, and frankly they became dependent on it during and after the end of the shuttle program. Now they seem to be doing everything they can to sabotage the relationship that built the ISS in an attempt to free themselves of their obligations to fly Soyuz and Progress capsules on a routine basis.
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 Quoting: Astromut


I'd take Russia at their word on this one.
 Quoting: Et Sano


Then you are an idiot, straight up. No question about it. A complete idiot who is falling for Russian propaganda. The store uses on their side of the space station and to drill through it would require a power drill and making a shitload of noise everyone would hear. Have you seen what Russian space production facilities are like these days, people are sneaking in there at night unopposed! Somebody drilled that hole on the ground and realized they fucked up and tried to patch it. The patch didn't hold and the rest is history.
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you tell us that anyone can take a drill and open holes in a russian spaceship under all that cameras and guards ?

astro you are full of shit and lies
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Every part of that station has 24/7 HD video monitoring.
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Space is Bull Shit so this is a lie .
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Except it's not.
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That's a projection based on project blue beam tech.
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Projection of a hologram
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No it isn't. Holograms don't block background light.
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Russia is threatening criminal charges against NASA astronaut Serena Auñón-Chancellor for allegedly drilling a hole in the Soyuz module back in 2018 while it was docked to ISS. Months ago they violated her privacy by disclosing that she suffered from deep vein thrombosis during her mission and postulated that this caused her to have a mental breakdown and drill a hole in the capsule to force her crew to come back to earth early. Now the conspiracy theory is that she had an unsuccessful attempt at a romantic relationship with another crewmember and this drove her to drill the hole. NASA says they know their astronauts were all on the US side of the station when the leak started and that none of them could even be responsible.

This seems like more baseless retaliation in an attempt to deflect blame after a series of events where Russia has endangered ISS. Russia also seems desperate to pull out of the ISS program after the success of SpaceX's crew Dragon capsule, which has resulted in a dramatic reduction in the number of Soyuz seats that NASA needs to buy to keep at least one NASA astronaut on ISS at all times. NASA has also been bargaining to do ride sharing where one cosmonaut will occasionally ride on the crew Dragon paid for by NASA in exchange for one NASA astronaut riding on Soyuz paid for by Russia. This means even less direct money transfers to the Russian space program, and frankly they became dependent on it during and after the end of the shuttle program. Now they seem to be doing everything they can to sabotage the relationship that built the ISS in an attempt to free themselves of their obligations to fly Soyuz and Progress capsules on a routine basis.
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I'd take Russia at their word on this one.
 Quoting: Et Sano


Then you are an idiot, straight up. No question about it. A complete idiot who is falling for Russian propaganda. The store uses on their side of the space station and to drill through it would require a power drill and making a shitload of noise everyone would hear. Have you seen what Russian space production facilities are like these days, people are sneaking in there at night unopposed! Somebody drilled that hole on the ground and realized they fucked up and tried to patch it. The patch didn't hold and the rest is history.
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you tell us that anyone can take a drill and open holes in a russian spaceship under all that cameras and guards ?

astro you are full of shit and lies
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Yeah, definitely could never happen, Russians are really on top of it, right?
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Whoops. That facility isn't actually abandoned by the way, that's just the shit job they do taking care of it. Now I don't claim that a vandal went in and drilled it, I'm just pointing out the complete lack of quality control over there right now. It's the kind of thing that leads to them flipping the space station end over end and then a few weeks later damn near doing it again when a second vehicle docks to the station. If you want to pretend that they have expert quality control and that nothing bad has been happening lately, then you can be that blind, but I'm not.
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See- THIS is why constantly thinking and talking about sex and acting on impulse, gets people into trouble.

Sex addicts are easily blackmailed and compromised.

CONTROL YA DAMN SELVES ALREADY.

JEEZUS.
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Every part of that station has 24/7 HD video monitoring.
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They occasionally have handoffs where the video signal drops but none are long enough to allow you to drill through an entire capsule all the way out into space without being noticed. And there's no freaking way you could do that without the Russians noticing. All of you Americans who are throwing her under the bus today should be ashamed of yourselves for signal boosting anti-American propaganda.
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Russia is threatening criminal charges against NASA astronaut Serena Auñón-Chancellor for allegedly drilling a hole in the Soyuz module back in 2018 while it was docked to ISS. Months ago they violated her privacy by disclosing that she suffered from deep vein thrombosis during her mission and postulated that this caused her to have a mental breakdown and drill a hole in the capsule to force her crew to come back to earth early. Now the conspiracy theory is that she had an unsuccessful attempt at a romantic relationship with another crewmember and this drove her to drill the hole. NASA says they know their astronauts were all on the US side of the station when the leak started and that none of them could even be responsible.

This seems like more baseless retaliation in an attempt to deflect blame after a series of events where Russia has endangered ISS. Russia also seems desperate to pull out of the ISS program after the success of SpaceX's crew Dragon capsule, which has resulted in a dramatic reduction in the number of Soyuz seats that NASA needs to buy to keep at least one NASA astronaut on ISS at all times. NASA has also been bargaining to do ride sharing where one cosmonaut will occasionally ride on the crew Dragon paid for by NASA in exchange for one NASA astronaut riding on Soyuz paid for by Russia. This means even less direct money transfers to the Russian space program, and frankly they became dependent on it during and after the end of the shuttle program. Now they seem to be doing everything they can to sabotage the relationship that built the ISS in an attempt to free themselves of their obligations to fly Soyuz and Progress capsules on a routine basis.
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 Quoting: Astromut


I'd take Russia at their word on this one. Don't underestimate the depravity of Team Neocon and their hatred of Russia and Putin. Fucking around with Space exploration should be off limits, especially since Russia has allowed us to use their rockets and Soyuz all these years even during the height of the anti-Russian Western campaign during the Trump years and even earlier under Obama.
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I truly respect the Russian people for having survived so many tyrants and so much abuse and to still have their spirit intact, but putin is a fetid cunt of a totalitarian communist dictator.
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Putin comes in the tradition of White Russia, Orthodox Russia - the Russia that existed for hundreds of years before the ancestors of Team Neocon decided to violently overthrow Russian in 1917 using the same tactics of "color revolution" that they used to overthrow Ukraine in 2014. Putin and Christian Russia should be America's best friend. Instead, we have let a few decrepit Elites hijack that relationship. In a sane world, America and Russia would engage in unhindered trade and we would already have launched a joint mission to establish a permanent base on the Moon.
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No sir. Putin is a long time member of the communist party,a "former" KGB agent, and a totalitarian dictator. He is no christian and he is no conservative, in fact he is a pedophile.
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See- THIS is why constantly thinking and talking about sex and acting on impulse, gets people into trouble.

Sex addicts are easily blackmailed and compromised.

CONTROL YA DAMN SELVES ALREADY.

JEEZUS.
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You just blindly believe the bullshit? Fucking amazing, what happened to the deep vein thrombosis story from a few months ago? I guess you believed that back then but now you just blindly believe when the story changes? Are you really that stupid?
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I filmed that myself. There are no strings. I will offer you one chance to prove your claim by taking remote control of my telescope as it tracks the space station so that you can control it in real time for yourself and see that it is not fake. Do you accept my offer? Yes or no?
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I have a question for you since you seem to be the forums expert on the subject of space travel.

In 1969 we had rotary dial pulse tone telephones and if you wanted to call someone while out an about you either needed a pay phone or a radio transmitter that relayed calls through another stationary transceiver.

50 years later, we have pocket computers that allow us to talk to or transmit data to anyone else on earth who has a similar device.

Compare this to the progress we have made in space travel in the same 50 years. Doesn't really seem like much, does it?

When I was a boy and watched the moon landings on TV I assumed I would at least live to see interplanetary space travel, and yet we don't even have a capability to leave low earth orbit. The space station doesn't impress me.

What I want to ask you is how you would explain the disparity between the advances made in electronics and technology, and yet the seemingly backward step we have taken in space travel.

One of two things is true, either the advanced technology isn't Terran in origin, or we never actually have left low earth orbit. One would fully expect if a manned lunar landing took place in 1969 that by now interplanetary space travel would be routine. What I am saying is I see no significant advances being made in space travel but I do see a lot of money being spent on it. I see a lot of claims being made of successes I have no way to verify to justify these expenditures. How you answer a person who says the people should not be funding something that benefits none of them in any significant way?

What do I care about the space station? What is actually being accomplished?
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I'd really like to see your input on this. I strongly believe that there was a sudden leap in electronic technology that cannot be explained by the expected advancement of technology.
This seems apparent because for instance we are still flying in planes and driving cars that are essentially unchanged besides the inclusion of these advanced electronics. We went from requiring a large room to store the data contained on a fingernail sized chip in 50 years, and we still aren't engaged in interplanetary space travel. I am baffled. I am convinced we either are not allowed to leave, or already are on a routine basis and all of the visible space exploration using ancient rocket technology is a cover.
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Russia is threatening criminal charges against NASA astronaut Serena Auñón-Chancellor for allegedly drilling a hole in the Soyuz module back in 2018 while it was docked to ISS. Months ago they violated her privacy by disclosing that she suffered from deep vein thrombosis during her mission and postulated that this caused her to have a mental breakdown and drill a hole in the capsule to force her crew to come back to earth early. Now the conspiracy theory is that she had an unsuccessful attempt at a romantic relationship with another crewmember and this drove her to drill the hole. NASA says they know their astronauts were all on the US side of the station when the leak started and that none of them could even be responsible.

This seems like more baseless retaliation in an attempt to deflect blame after a series of events where Russia has endangered ISS. Russia also seems desperate to pull out of the ISS program after the success of SpaceX's crew Dragon capsule, which has resulted in a dramatic reduction in the number of Soyuz seats that NASA needs to buy to keep at least one NASA astronaut on ISS at all times. NASA has also been bargaining to do ride sharing where one cosmonaut will occasionally ride on the crew Dragon paid for by NASA in exchange for one NASA astronaut riding on Soyuz paid for by Russia. This means even less direct money transfers to the Russian space program, and frankly they became dependent on it during and after the end of the shuttle program. Now they seem to be doing everything they can to sabotage the relationship that built the ISS in an attempt to free themselves of their obligations to fly Soyuz and Progress capsules on a routine basis.
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This is bullshit satire lying crap... drilled a hole in the module... in a vacuum of space, in a pressurized cabin..
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Russia is threatening criminal charges against NASA astronaut Serena Auñón-Chancellor for allegedly drilling a hole in the Soyuz module back in 2018 while it was docked to ISS. Months ago they violated her privacy by disclosing that she suffered from deep vein thrombosis during her mission and postulated that this caused her to have a mental breakdown and drill a hole in the capsule to force her crew to come back to earth early. Now the conspiracy theory is that she had an unsuccessful attempt at a romantic relationship with another crewmember and this drove her to drill the hole. NASA says they know their astronauts were all on the US side of the station when the leak started and that none of them could even be responsible.

This seems like more baseless retaliation in an attempt to deflect blame after a series of events where Russia has endangered ISS. Russia also seems desperate to pull out of the ISS program after the success of SpaceX's crew Dragon capsule, which has resulted in a dramatic reduction in the number of Soyuz seats that NASA needs to buy to keep at least one NASA astronaut on ISS at all times. NASA has also been bargaining to do ride sharing where one cosmonaut will occasionally ride on the crew Dragon paid for by NASA in exchange for one NASA astronaut riding on Soyuz paid for by Russia. This means even less direct money transfers to the Russian space program, and frankly they became dependent on it during and after the end of the shuttle program. Now they seem to be doing everything they can to sabotage the relationship that built the ISS in an attempt to free themselves of their obligations to fly Soyuz and Progress capsules on a routine basis.
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I'd take Russia at their word on this one.
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Then you are an idiot, straight up. No question about it. A complete idiot who is falling for Russian propaganda. The store uses on their side of the space station and to drill through it would require a power drill and making a shitload of noise everyone would hear. Have you seen what Russian space production facilities are like these days, people are sneaking in there at night unopposed! Somebody drilled that hole on the ground and realized they fucked up and tried to patch it. The patch didn't hold and the rest is history.
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No need to get nasty. The fact is that we don't know who is responsible. I still think the Russians will be vindicated. They have no reason to lie about this, are not the ones who have politicized and weaponized American-Russian relations, and Putin has a well documented history of firing incompetent heads of industry and government when they fuck up. The same cannot be said of Western leaders and heads of industry.
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why can't they plug the hole. Duck tape works wonders!
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The hole is no longer the issue, the Soyuz capsule with the hole came back months ago. The hole was in the orbital module that is disposed of before the re-entry capsule brings the cosmonauts home.
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If a US astronaut happened to be visiting the Russian side of the station, it's a little hard to believe she would have gone all the way to the Russian re-entry vehicle alone with enough time to drill a hole in it.
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Not another off balance female astronaut. It wasn't all that long, maybe 10 or 15 years ago, that another woman had a romantic fling that didn't work, and she drove like a thousand miles and didn't want to stop so she wore adult diapers so she could do harm to her love interest's GF. Who was that? Can't remember her name. Some wack-job.

These are just the incidents that were made public out of the very few women who are in the program. Maybe their inclusion should be re-evaluated.

Russia deserves to be compensated for the vandalism.
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Russia is threatening criminal charges against NASA astronaut Serena Auñón-Chancellor for allegedly drilling a hole in the Soyuz module back in 2018 while it was docked to ISS. Months ago they violated her privacy by disclosing that she suffered from deep vein thrombosis during her mission and postulated that this caused her to have a mental breakdown and drill a hole in the capsule to force her crew to come back to earth early. Now the conspiracy theory is that she had an unsuccessful attempt at a romantic relationship with another crewmember and this drove her to drill the hole. NASA says they know their astronauts were all on the US side of the station when the leak started and that none of them could even be responsible.

This seems like more baseless retaliation in an attempt to deflect blame after a series of events where Russia has endangered ISS. Russia also seems desperate to pull out of the ISS program after the success of SpaceX's crew Dragon capsule, which has resulted in a dramatic reduction in the number of Soyuz seats that NASA needs to buy to keep at least one NASA astronaut on ISS at all times. NASA has also been bargaining to do ride sharing where one cosmonaut will occasionally ride on the crew Dragon paid for by NASA in exchange for one NASA astronaut riding on Soyuz paid for by Russia. This means even less direct money transfers to the Russian space program, and frankly they became dependent on it during and after the end of the shuttle program. Now they seem to be doing everything they can to sabotage the relationship that built the ISS in an attempt to free themselves of their obligations to fly Soyuz and Progress capsules on a routine basis.
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Shill article

Nobody knows the truth, but you can immediately see it's very anti-Russian in tone.

It's pointless accusation without hearing the Russian side.
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I’ve heard the Russian side and it seemed quite credible. She WAS oustide the soyuz on a space walk WITH the drill. The hole is the same size as the drill. What they could not figure out was whether it was an accident and she just didn’t say anything or if she had some motive. Clearly, Russia now believes there was motive.
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Interesting. If the Drill was outside the station, in space, there would be no noise from the drill machine. Only the cutting itself would make noise.
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Russia is threatening criminal charges against NASA astronaut Serena Auñón-Chancellor for allegedly drilling a hole in the Soyuz module back in 2018 while it was docked to ISS. Months ago they violated her privacy by disclosing that she suffered from deep vein thrombosis during her mission and postulated that this caused her to have a mental breakdown and drill a hole in the capsule to force her crew to come back to earth early. Now the conspiracy theory is that she had an unsuccessful attempt at a romantic relationship with another crewmember and this drove her to drill the hole. NASA says they know their astronauts were all on the US side of the station when the leak started and that none of them could even be responsible.

This seems like more baseless retaliation in an attempt to deflect blame after a series of events where Russia has endangered ISS. Russia also seems desperate to pull out of the ISS program after the success of SpaceX's crew Dragon capsule, which has resulted in a dramatic reduction in the number of Soyuz seats that NASA needs to buy to keep at least one NASA astronaut on ISS at all times. NASA has also been bargaining to do ride sharing where one cosmonaut will occasionally ride on the crew Dragon paid for by NASA in exchange for one NASA astronaut riding on Soyuz paid for by Russia. This means even less direct money transfers to the Russian space program, and frankly they became dependent on it during and after the end of the shuttle program. Now they seem to be doing everything they can to sabotage the relationship that built the ISS in an attempt to free themselves of their obligations to fly Soyuz and Progress capsules on a routine basis.
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 Quoting: Astromut


I'd take Russia at their word on this one.
 Quoting: Et Sano


Then you are an idiot, straight up. No question about it. A complete idiot who is falling for Russian propaganda. The store uses on their side of the space station and to drill through it would require a power drill and making a shitload of noise everyone would hear. Have you seen what Russian space production facilities are like these days, people are sneaking in there at night unopposed! Somebody drilled that hole on the ground and realized they fucked up and tried to patch it. The patch didn't hold and the rest is history.
 Quoting: Astromut


No need to get nasty. The fact is that we don't know who is responsible. I still think the Russians will be vindicated. They have no reason to lie about this, are not the ones who have politicized and weaponized American-Russian relations, and Putin has a well documented history of firing incompetent heads of industry and government when they fuck up. The same cannot be said of Western leaders and heads of industry.
 Quoting: Et Sano


A Putin fan. Try asking some actual Russians what a hero Putin is. Especially those from the east of the country, which Putin is starving of resources.
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Oh wait, I read this wrong...

Dislexic me read it backwards.

That's quite the claim for the Russians to make without evidence.
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Russia is threatening criminal charges against NASA astronaut Serena Auñón-Chancellor for allegedly drilling a hole in the Soyuz module back in 2018 while it was docked to ISS. Months ago they violated her privacy by disclosing that she suffered from deep vein thrombosis during her mission and postulated that this caused her to have a mental breakdown and drill a hole in the capsule to force her crew to come back to earth early. Now the conspiracy theory is that she had an unsuccessful attempt at a romantic relationship with another crewmember and this drove her to drill the hole. NASA says they know their astronauts were all on the US side of the station when the leak started and that none of them could even be responsible.

This seems like more baseless retaliation in an attempt to deflect blame after a series of events where Russia has endangered ISS. Russia also seems desperate to pull out of the ISS program after the success of SpaceX's crew Dragon capsule, which has resulted in a dramatic reduction in the number of Soyuz seats that NASA needs to buy to keep at least one NASA astronaut on ISS at all times. NASA has also been bargaining to do ride sharing where one cosmonaut will occasionally ride on the crew Dragon paid for by NASA in exchange for one NASA astronaut riding on Soyuz paid for by Russia. This means even less direct money transfers to the Russian space program, and frankly they became dependent on it during and after the end of the shuttle program. Now they seem to be doing everything they can to sabotage the relationship that built the ISS in an attempt to free themselves of their obligations to fly Soyuz and Progress capsules on a routine basis.
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 Quoting: Astromut


I don't blame the Russians for wanting away from the ISS program.

WHEN the ASATS start flying the likelihood of the ISS surviving is basically going to drop to zero.

Not to mention that the Russians are looking to partner with the chicoms now that they're on their way to being the dominant orbital power.

I'm sure it's got to be both frustrating and sad to be at NASA at a time when you get to watch the massive space lead the US has had and squandered evaporate.

It's a sad time for humanity too since the Chinese aren't going to be willing to share data and etc like we historically have.

My sincere hope is that we don't find ourselves locked out of even LEO and the la grange points by the Chinese, but I fear that's exactly where this is going
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I am kind of confused does the dome extend beyond the moon?

If it does that would explain a lot...
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Russia is threatening criminal charges against NASA astronaut Serena Auñón-Chancellor for allegedly drilling a hole in the Soyuz module back in 2018 while it was docked to ISS. Months ago they violated her privacy by disclosing that she suffered from deep vein thrombosis during her mission and postulated that this caused her to have a mental breakdown and drill a hole in the capsule to force her crew to come back to earth early. Now the conspiracy theory is that she had an unsuccessful attempt at a romantic relationship with another crewmember and this drove her to drill the hole. NASA says they know their astronauts were all on the US side of the station when the leak started and that none of them could even be responsible.

This seems like more baseless retaliation in an attempt to deflect blame after a series of events where Russia has endangered ISS. Russia also seems desperate to pull out of the ISS program after the success of SpaceX's crew Dragon capsule, which has resulted in a dramatic reduction in the number of Soyuz seats that NASA needs to buy to keep at least one NASA astronaut on ISS at all times. NASA has also been bargaining to do ride sharing where one cosmonaut will occasionally ride on the crew Dragon paid for by NASA in exchange for one NASA astronaut riding on Soyuz paid for by Russia. This means even less direct money transfers to the Russian space program, and frankly they became dependent on it during and after the end of the shuttle program. Now they seem to be doing everything they can to sabotage the relationship that built the ISS in an attempt to free themselves of their obligations to fly Soyuz and Progress capsules on a routine basis.
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 Quoting: Astromut

Shill article

Nobody knows the truth, but you can immediately see it's very anti-Russian in tone.

It's pointless accusation without hearing the Russian side.
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I’ve heard the Russian side and it seemed quite credible. She WAS oustide the soyuz on a space walk WITH the drill. The hole is the same size as the drill. What they could not figure out was whether it was an accident and she just didn’t say anything or if she had some motive. Clearly, Russia now believes there was motive.
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Interesting. If the Drill was outside the station, in space, there would be no noise from the drill machine. Only the cutting itself would make noise.
 Quoting: Justme C'est Moi


Guys. Stop falling for fucking propaganda! She didn't even go on a spacewalk, and do you really think no one would notice her climbing around the outside of the Soyuz?! How would she even get there, there aren't any handrails so she'd have to be taken there by a robot arm operated by someone else inside or on the ground! But it's all a moot point SINCE SHE'S NEVER BEEN ON A SPACE WALK AND THE AC IS SPEWING LIES AND PROPAGANDA!
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Russia is threatening criminal charges against NASA astronaut Serena Auñón-Chancellor for allegedly drilling a hole in the Soyuz module back in 2018 while it was docked to ISS. Months ago they violated her privacy by disclosing that she suffered from deep vein thrombosis during her mission and postulated that this caused her to have a mental breakdown and drill a hole in the capsule to force her crew to come back to earth early. Now the conspiracy theory is that she had an unsuccessful attempt at a romantic relationship with another crewmember and this drove her to drill the hole. NASA says they know their astronauts were all on the US side of the station when the leak started and that none of them could even be responsible.

This seems like more baseless retaliation in an attempt to deflect blame after a series of events where Russia has endangered ISS. Russia also seems desperate to pull out of the ISS program after the success of SpaceX's crew Dragon capsule, which has resulted in a dramatic reduction in the number of Soyuz seats that NASA needs to buy to keep at least one NASA astronaut on ISS at all times. NASA has also been bargaining to do ride sharing where one cosmonaut will occasionally ride on the crew Dragon paid for by NASA in exchange for one NASA astronaut riding on Soyuz paid for by Russia. This means even less direct money transfers to the Russian space program, and frankly they became dependent on it during and after the end of the shuttle program. Now they seem to be doing everything they can to sabotage the relationship that built the ISS in an attempt to free themselves of their obligations to fly Soyuz and Progress capsules on a routine basis.
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 Quoting: Astromut


I'd take Russia at their word on this one.
 Quoting: Et Sano


Then you are an idiot, straight up. No question about it. A complete idiot who is falling for Russian propaganda. The store uses on their side of the space station and to drill through it would require a power drill and making a shitload of noise everyone would hear. Have you seen what Russian space production facilities are like these days, people are sneaking in there at night unopposed! Somebody drilled that hole on the ground and realized they fucked up and tried to patch it. The patch didn't hold and the rest is history.
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No need to get nasty. The fact is that we don't know who is responsible. I still think the Russians will be vindicated. They have no reason to lie about this,
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Yes, they do. They ABSOLUTELY do. They are under fire for all the fuckups they have been doing to ISS for months now, they have EVERY REASON TO LIE AND DEFLECT FROM LAUNCHING A SPACECRAFT WITH A BADLY PATCHED HOLE IN IT.
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I am kind of confused does the dome extend beyond the moon?

If it does that would explain a lot...
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Me-too accusations will follow you out past Pluto. There is a sort of transition at the edge of the solar system. Not closer than that.
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I'd take Russia at their word on this one.
 Quoting: Et Sano


Then you are an idiot, straight up. No question about it. A complete idiot who is falling for Russian propaganda. The store uses on their side of the space station and to drill through it would require a power drill and making a shitload of noise everyone would hear. Have you seen what Russian space production facilities are like these days, people are sneaking in there at night unopposed! Somebody drilled that hole on the ground and realized they fucked up and tried to patch it. The patch didn't hold and the rest is history.
 Quoting: Astromut


No need to get nasty. The fact is that we don't know who is responsible. I still think the Russians will be vindicated. They have no reason to lie about this,
 Quoting: Et Sano

Yes, they do. They ABSOLUTELY do. They are under fire for all the fuckups they have been doing to ISS for months now, they have EVERY REASON TO LIE AND DEFLECT FROM LAUNCHING A SPACECRAFT WITH A BADLY PATCHED HOLE IN IT.
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Well, we will just have to let the process play out then. The truth will eventually come out.
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I'd take Russia at their word on this one.
 Quoting: Et Sano


Then you are an idiot, straight up. No question about it. A complete idiot who is falling for Russian propaganda. The store uses on their side of the space station and to drill through it would require a power drill and making a shitload of noise everyone would hear. Have you seen what Russian space production facilities are like these days, people are sneaking in there at night unopposed! Somebody drilled that hole on the ground and realized they fucked up and tried to patch it. The patch didn't hold and the rest is history.
 Quoting: Astromut


No need to get nasty. The fact is that we don't know who is responsible. I still think the Russians will be vindicated. They have no reason to lie about this, are not the ones who have politicized and weaponized American-Russian relations, and Putin has a well documented history of firing incompetent heads of industry and government when they fuck up. The same cannot be said of Western leaders and heads of industry.
 Quoting: Et Sano


A Putin fan. Try asking some actual Russians what a hero Putin is. Especially those from the east of the country, which Putin is starving of resources.
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The Russian people are not the problem. I believe given a chance americans and Russians would get along very well. I think there is a reason we were set against each other after WW2; to insure the white christian race remain divided against itself.


He is no moral christian conservative, he has a dark history, and present. He kills people who oppose him politically. He starves out political opposition.. He has a thing for little boys apparently, which probably means he is compromised by outside factions like so many of our leaders are. Wouldn't it be a surprise to find out it was the same faction controlling both?



We all must be careful not to judge a country by its government, imagine how the world would judge us.





GLP