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January 25, 2022: Russian and separatist forces stationed along the Dnieper River respond to "provocations" by Kiev and launch a multi-pronged assault on strategic locations in Ukraine. An emergency meeting of NATO is called, and a special session of the UN Security Council convenes to discuss the invasion. Meanwhile, Poland and Lithuania put their forces on maximum alert. Belarus and Russia make progress on unification.

February 28: Communications go offline across Taiwan, and there are reports of loud explosions at key military locations on Taiwanese-owned islands/outposts. After several hours the Pentagon confirms it is monitoring what appears to be the initial phase of a Chinese assault on Taiwanese forces. US Pacific Command goes on high alert, and President Joe Biden flies to Camp David along with the Joint Chiefs of Staff to discuss how the US should respond. China warns the US that once it "reunites" Taiwan with the mainland, it will be Chinese territory and any attempt by outside forces to "liberate" it will be considered an attempt to invade China. To emphasise its seriousness, Beijing puts its nuclear forces on the PLA's equivalent of DEFCON-2.

March 15-21: Russia pushes further into western Ukraine than NATO had anticipated and encircles Kiev. The Ukrainian government falls and Russia facilitates a "caretaker government" until new elections are held (this secretly includes a referendum on reuniting with Russia). In the interim, Russian forces occupy Ukraine but make assurances that it will withdraw once the security situation is stable.

April 30: Despite suffering heavily losses at sea and in the air, China completes its invasion of Taiwan. No outside powers intervened, allowing a quick and decisive victory for Beijing. Xi's ominous reminder that China regards its newly-conquered territory as its own soil gave the US Pacific Command enough pause to hold off on intervening. Later, General Milley would admit, "We didn't want to trigger a nuclear war over Taiwan". Chinese forces hold a victory parade, and Xi flies to the island to proclaim the "Chinese Century".

May 9: Russia holds its Victory Day parade and includes a military parade in occupied Ukraine, announcing on the same day that the new Ukrainian parliament will hold a referendum within six months on whether Ukraine should be reabsorbed into Russia. This follows similar referendums in previous years held in Abzhazia and South Ossetia (formerly part of Georgia) as well as Donbass, Luhansk and Crimea (formerly part of Ukraine). NATO explains its decision not to intervene in the war by saying that doing so would have triggered a full-scale war with Russia - something that would have had "apocalyptic ramifications on a global scale".
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Plausible?
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Why are regional skirmishes with US/NATO forces standing down in each instance considered WWIII?
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No way! Biden and his cronies would not let that go down without inflicting major wounds to the USA.
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No way! Biden and his cronies would not let that go down without inflicting major wounds to the USA.
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The Clinton way... never let a good crisis go to waste?
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Nicely written and very plausible OP ..5 stars
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January 25, 2022: Russian and separatist forces stationed along the Dnieper River respond to "provocations" by Kiev and launch a multi-pronged assault on strategic locations in Ukraine. An emergency meeting of NATO is called, and a special session of the UN Security Council convenes to discuss the invasion. Meanwhile, Poland and Lithuania put their forces on maximum alert. Belarus and Russia make progress on unification.

February 28: Communications go offline across Taiwan, and there are reports of loud explosions at key military locations on Taiwanese-owned islands/outposts. After several hours the Pentagon confirms it is monitoring what appears to be the initial phase of a Chinese assault on Taiwanese forces. US Pacific Command goes on high alert, and President Joe Biden flies to Camp David along with the Joint Chiefs of Staff to discuss how the US should respond. China warns the US that once it "reunites" Taiwan with the mainland, it will be Chinese territory and any attempt by outside forces to "liberate" it will be considered an attempt to invade China. To emphasise its seriousness, Beijing puts its nuclear forces on the PLA's equivalent of DEFCON-2.

March 15-21: Russia pushes further into western Ukraine than NATO had anticipated and encircles Kiev. The Ukrainian government falls and Russia facilitates a "caretaker government" until new elections are held (this secretly includes a referendum on reuniting with Russia). In the interim, Russian forces occupy Ukraine but make assurances that it will withdraw once the security situation is stable.

April 30: Despite suffering heavily losses at sea and in the air, China completes its invasion of Taiwan. No outside powers intervened, allowing a quick and decisive victory for Beijing. Xi's ominous reminder that China regards its newly-conquered territory as its own soil gave the US Pacific Command enough pause to hold off on intervening. Later, General Milley would admit, "We didn't want to trigger a nuclear war over Taiwan". Chinese forces hold a victory parade, and Xi flies to the island to proclaim the "Chinese Century".

May 9: Russia holds its Victory Day parade and includes a military parade in occupied Ukraine, announcing on the same day that the new Ukrainian parliament will hold a referendum within six months on whether Ukraine should be reabsorbed into Russia. This follows similar referendums in previous years held in Abzhazia and South Ossetia (formerly part of Georgia) as well as Donbass, Luhansk and Crimea (formerly part of Ukraine). NATO explains its decision not to intervene in the war by saying that doing so would have triggered a full-scale war with Russia - something that would have had "apocalyptic ramifications on a global scale".
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2 more weeks?
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January 25, 2022: Russian and separatist forces stationed along the Dnieper River respond to "provocations" by Kiev and launch a multi-pronged assault on strategic locations in Ukraine. An emergency meeting of NATO is called, and a special session of the UN Security Council convenes to discuss the invasion. Meanwhile, Poland and Lithuania put their forces on maximum alert. Belarus and Russia make progress on unification.

February 28: Communications go offline across Taiwan, and there are reports of loud explosions at key military locations on Taiwanese-owned islands/outposts. After several hours the Pentagon confirms it is monitoring what appears to be the initial phase of a Chinese assault on Taiwanese forces. US Pacific Command goes on high alert, and President Joe Biden flies to Camp David along with the Joint Chiefs of Staff to discuss how the US should respond. China warns the US that once it "reunites" Taiwan with the mainland, it will be Chinese territory and any attempt by outside forces to "liberate" it will be considered an attempt to invade China. To emphasise its seriousness, Beijing puts its nuclear forces on the PLA's equivalent of DEFCON-2.

March 15-21: Russia pushes further into western Ukraine than NATO had anticipated and encircles Kiev. The Ukrainian government falls and Russia facilitates a "caretaker government" until new elections are held (this secretly includes a referendum on reuniting with Russia). In the interim, Russian forces occupy Ukraine but make assurances that it will withdraw once the security situation is stable.

April 30: Despite suffering heavily losses at sea and in the air, China completes its invasion of Taiwan. No outside powers intervened, allowing a quick and decisive victory for Beijing. Xi's ominous reminder that China regards its newly-conquered territory as its own soil gave the US Pacific Command enough pause to hold off on intervening. Later, General Milley would admit, "We didn't want to trigger a nuclear war over Taiwan". Chinese forces hold a victory parade, and Xi flies to the island to proclaim the "Chinese Century".

May 9: Russia holds its Victory Day parade and includes a military parade in occupied Ukraine, announcing on the same day that the new Ukrainian parliament will hold a referendum within six months on whether Ukraine should be reabsorbed into Russia. This follows similar referendums in previous years held in Abzhazia and South Ossetia (formerly part of Georgia) as well as Donbass, Luhansk and Crimea (formerly part of Ukraine). NATO explains its decision not to intervene in the war by saying that doing so would have triggered a full-scale war with Russia - something that would have had "apocalyptic ramifications on a global scale".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79472377


2 more weeks?
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I'm hearing November 31st. Trust the plan.
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Nicely written and very plausible OP ..5 stars
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As plausible as it appears, outcome and timeline could vary dramatically.
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No way! Biden and his cronies would not let that go down without inflicting major wounds to the USA.
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LOL! You said it all

Sad, but true.
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China has to shut down Guam, Okinawa, and the Reagan to accomplish this. If they try they will get shut down quicker than Wagner was in Syria in 2018.
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WWIII: Outbreak, Order of Events and Outcome

January 25, 2022: Russian and separatist forces stationed along the Dnieper River respond to "provocations" by Kiev and launch a multi-pronged assault on strategic locations in Ukraine. An emergency meeting of NATO is called, and a special session of the UN Security Council convenes to discuss the invasion. Meanwhile, Poland and Lithuania put their forces on maximum alert. Belarus and Russia make progress on unification.

February 28: Communications go offline across Taiwan, and there are reports of loud explosions at key military locations on Taiwanese-owned islands/outposts. After several hours the Pentagon confirms it is monitoring what appears to be the initial phase of a Chinese assault on Taiwanese forces. US Pacific Command goes on high alert, and President Joe Biden flies to Camp David along with the Joint Chiefs of Staff to discuss how the US should respond. China warns the US that once it "reunites" Taiwan with the mainland, it will be Chinese territory and any attempt by outside forces to "liberate" it will be considered an attempt to invade China. To emphasise its seriousness, Beijing puts its nuclear forces on the PLA's equivalent of DEFCON-2.

March 15-21: Russia pushes further into western Ukraine than NATO had anticipated and encircles Kiev. The Ukrainian government falls and Russia facilitates a "caretaker government" until new elections are held (this secretly includes a referendum on reuniting with Russia). In the interim, Russian forces occupy Ukraine but make assurances that it will withdraw once the security situation is stable.

April 30: Despite suffering heavily losses at sea and in the air, China completes its invasion of Taiwan. No outside powers intervened, allowing a quick and decisive victory for Beijing. Xi's ominous reminder that China regards its newly-conquered territory as its own soil gave the US Pacific Command enough pause to hold off on intervening. Later, General Milley would admit, "We didn't want to trigger a nuclear war over Taiwan". Chinese forces hold a victory parade, and Xi flies to the island to proclaim the "Chinese Century".

May 9: Russia holds its Victory Day parade and includes a military parade in occupied Ukraine, announcing on the same day that the new Ukrainian parliament will hold a referendum within six months on whether Ukraine should be reabsorbed into Russia. This follows similar referendums in previous years held in Abzhazia and South Ossetia (formerly part of Georgia) as well as Donbass, Luhansk and Crimea (formerly part of Ukraine). NATO explains its decision not to intervene in the war by saying that doing so would have triggered a full-scale war with Russia - something that would have had "apocalyptic ramifications on a global scale".
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Why attack Taiwan on February 28, 2022. That is the beginning of the Rainy Season there. China's military would get bogged down and it would take longer than 2 months to take Taiwan in the Rainy Season...

If China was going to attack, it would be close to a New Moon period and during the dry season...

The dry season for Taiwan is from November - January. The Chinese would need at least 2 months of dry weather to secure a major foot hold on Taiwan. That would put an attack date of no later than the first week of December 2021...

As of Russia attacking Ukraine. It is plausible for a Jan. 25, 2022 attack. Yet, that would be right around a full moon. Their tanks would be highlighted by moonlight and easy pickings for Ukraine Army...

IMO, best time to attack Ukraine would be close to a New Moon and to coordinate the attack with China's attack on Taiwan. Imagine Ukraine and Taiwan being attacked simultaneously on the same day (First Week in December 2021). Could you imagine the chaos in the Pentagon if that happened. How would we split our forces to respond...

Answer is, we wouldn't...

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Plausible?
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Plausible. Except what you mapped out is more like "timeline of how we avoided WWII".

There's a lot to be said in favor of isolationism. I'm not a proponent of hyperinterventionism, but there's the slippery slope factor to consider.

I don't see that Ukrainian autonomy or non-autonomy has much impact on the world. Not sure it has much impact on Igor Ukrainski, for that matter. It'd matter far more to the new people who are currently in power; they'd be losing their newfound cushy jobs, possibly even their lives.

Taiwan is a different matter, but even so, I don't know what effect it'd have on Hop Singh's day-to-day life. Having never been over there, I don't know if there's a stark contrast between PRC peasantry and Taiwanese peasantry.

Now, when China decides that Australia should be annexed next, the world would be less likely to sit on its hands.

A lot of blood was shed and a lot of treasure was squandered in Vietnam, and the situations were similar. Things have to be relatively better there now. I used to have ugly mental images of gorillas on a rampage on the Plain of Jars.
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Fearing an all out campaign against Ukraine by Russia, residents of Mariupol began evacuating the city to points further west. The city's remaining population, mainly pro Russians, welcomed the city's liberation.
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Having established a land corridor between Russia and Crimea, Russia ceased any further westward advance along the line of contact.
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Estonia will cave and cede a land corridor between Russia and kaliningrad to avoid an all out war and loss of independence.
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Any other further provocations will trigger a move west along the Black sea and unite Transnistria with Russia.
Perhaps all this will turn Mariupol and Odessa into land locked enclaves.

New status quo.
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This thread would be a great go to for all the hard hitters.

But instead they are preoccupied with their own loser threads that they would rather bump
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Plausible?
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Not even close...

First off, when shit kicks off this time, the first many of us will know of it is when suddenly Gps goes down, down detector is just a sea of red, and if you're by a military base it will suddenly look like a kicked anthill...

When servers for Google and etc start coming back online the first thing you'll see is Twitter trending saying that whole portions of the internet are just... Gone and pings to whole regions of the world go dead.

Depending on where you live you may start seeing panicked preparations for entirely unscheduled rocket launches and big expensive aircraft both military and civilian landed in tiny or even disused airports.

If you have an fm radio, ham, or etc you may also find it extremely hard to get signal through and you may see "northern lights" in places you're not supposed to see them.

That will be the broad spectrum over the horizon jamming.

When news from outside the Continental US does start coming in it'll be grim.

Hell there's a chance that by the time we re establish any sort of formal contact with other continents the world will be a very different place.

There's a chance that well before any real communications are established Oconus you'll instead hear emergency sirens and broadcasts on all frequencies saying that radioactive plumes are being detected and to stay indoors.

Depending on when exactly this occurs you may also see missile strikes on targets inside the US.

There's a good chance that long before you get any official verifiable news you'll see fighter jets and etc in the air, the interstates being shutdown except for military and official traffic etc.

How likely is this to happen?

I'd put it at 45% likely within the next 3 months to 3 years.

Some of the bigger moves being made right now suggest to me that China is very unhappy with us for very good reasons.

What remains to be seen is who else they manage to get on their side before d day / whether us Americans deal with our power structure ourselves before the Chinese are ready to...

IF

We handle the people in power here ourselves there's at least a chance we can escape being punished by china/potentially a good chunk of the rest of the world.

If we don't... My guess is that we're at some point in the near future going to know exactly what north Korea feels like, except nobody on earth will give a fuck that our kids are starving to death
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No way! Biden and his cronies would not let that go down without inflicting major wounds to the USA.
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Truthfully, depending on how ya Americans handle the next months to years, the American elites have probably already done more than enough damage to end us.

At this point it's all over except the looting...

Have any of you people looked at what's been in all the spending in the last two years?

They've stolen more money in the last two years than In the previous century.
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Russia's Attack Ukraine on December 4, 2021
Chinese Attack Taiwan on December 5th

Israeli Attack Iran on December 21
jesus on ....... Mountain on Christmas Eve

Conversation with God at a temperature of forty degrees below zero

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Plausible?
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Not even close...

First off, when shit kicks off this time, the first many of us will know of it is when suddenly Gps goes down, down detector is just a sea of red, and if you're by a military base it will suddenly look like a kicked anthill...

When servers for Google and etc start coming back online the first thing you'll see is Twitter trending saying that whole portions of the internet are just... Gone and pings to whole regions of the world go dead.

Depending on where you live you may start seeing panicked preparations for entirely unscheduled rocket launches and big expensive aircraft both military and civilian landed in tiny or even disused airports.

If you have an fm radio, ham, or etc you may also find it extremely hard to get signal through and you may see "northern lights" in places you're not supposed to see them.

That will be the broad spectrum over the horizon jamming.

When news from outside the Continental US does start coming in it'll be grim.

Hell there's a chance that by the time we re establish any sort of formal contact with other continents the world will be a very different place.

There's a chance that well before any real communications are established Oconus you'll instead hear emergency sirens and broadcasts on all frequencies saying that radioactive plumes are being detected and to stay indoors.

Depending on when exactly this occurs you may also see missile strikes on targets inside the US.

There's a good chance that long before you get any official verifiable news you'll see fighter jets and etc in the air, the interstates being shutdown except for military and official traffic etc.

How likely is this to happen?

I'd put it at 45% likely within the next 3 months to 3 years.

Some of the bigger moves being made right now suggest to me that China is very unhappy with us for very good reasons.

What remains to be seen is who else they manage to get on their side before d day / whether us Americans deal with our power structure ourselves before the Chinese are ready to...

IF

We handle the people in power here ourselves there's at least a chance we can escape being punished by china/potentially a good chunk of the rest of the world.

If we don't... My guess is that we're at some point in the near future going to know exactly what north Korea feels like, except nobody on earth will give a fuck that our kids are starving to death
 Quoting: roguetechie81




This seems very plausible.

China is very unhappy with us because they believe they have reasons, they are flexing their muscle and within the next few months the world will be ripe for picking.
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Plausible?
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Yes, it's plausible because Miley lacks a spine, and we have a potato head for a president.
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It's plausible.

Russia is being increasingly paranoid about needing a buffer zone of puppet nations along its border.

It's only a matter of time before every neighbouring country starting from Finland will either be annexed physically or politically (i.e. little green men and puppet governments).
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Why are you guys so unaware?

There will be no World War 3 because the leaders are afraid of extraterrestrials living underground.

We are not alone on this planet. There are extraterrestrials living underground. These beings are just waiting for a war to break out so they can take control of all humans.

TRUTH ABOUT HISTORY

World War 2 was an E.T. proxy war fought through humans!

Hitler was a puppet.

Stalin was a puppet.

They were controlled by beings living underground.
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Some of the bigger moves being made right now suggest to me that China is very unhappy with us for very good reasons.

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Please elaborate.
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Not plausible on the Taiwan side; Weaponry has changed;
Invisibility cloaking;
Lasers;
AI systems;
Hyper-sonic;
Dews;

Should be PRC was caught off-guard after initial successful wave of hyper-sonic attacks; American forces wiped out all initial landing forces in a counter attack which lasted three hours;
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“Russia is being increasingly paranoid about needing a buffer zone of puppet nations along its border.”

I think Putin sees EASY PICKINGS -

With RETARDS (official & backroom Obums) in charge

of our future-

Stolen elections matter!

Will the former usa be considered the “Vichy France”

of the 21st Century???

- perhaps . . . if we are LUCKY !
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Some people have no idea of the wunderwaffen hidden away
they are not russian chinese or alien

we don't know what they are

they are ours





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