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is the J&J vxx Safe(r) ?

 
Danger Dan
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is the J&J vxx Safe(r) ?
nearly all the bad stuff I've heard/read seems to concern
pfizer - both it and modera use the mRNA, but the j&j does not...

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Thread: GLP exclusive VAERS report - which vax more prone to clotting and death?
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Re: is the J&J vxx Safe(r) ?
its the worst as it inserts viral DNA into your DNA.

Wait for NOVAVAX
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Re: is the J&J vxx Safe(r) ?
My dearest friend got J&J this summer. I tried to change her mind, but she insisted and just did it. She had a reaction like an acid trip - she recognized it, and then seemed to have no other reactions. She's otherwise in good health. I do worry about her, but she has a mind of her own and doesn't live nearby. I pray for her and deeply care for her. She says she won't be getting any boosters.

I wonder if there's anything I can do for her. She follows the crowd much more than I do, but she's not always a sheep.
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its the worst as it inserts viral DNA into your DNA.

Wait for NOVAVAX
 Quoting: Dr-Know


FDA has no reason to ever approve Novavax. They're owned by Pfizer and to a lesser extent, Moderna and J&J.
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Re: is the J&J vxx Safe(r) ?
Do a web search for the terms "J&J Mayo JAMA" that appeared in the past month.

You'll find things like:

"Mayo Clinic Study Reveals J&J Vaccine Recipients Four Times More Prone to Blood Clots

"The Mayo Clinic released a study on Nov. 1 revealing that Minnesota residents from Olmsted County who received the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine are 3.7 times more likely to develop blood clots.

"The study was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association."


If you want something "safer," why not wait for the Novavax vaccine?

It uses a virus that affects only insects and spiders, injects it into moths, waits for the moths to develop spike proteins, harvests the spike proteins, embeds them into nanoparticles and — voilà! — you've got your vaccine.

(Look this up if you think I'm making it up.)

NO VACCINE IS SAFE.

PERIOD!
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damn it all
the GF doesn't want to take it but she has to or lose her job
at the hospital
it seems that pfizer is the greatest of three evils

this sucks
rant
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Re: is the J&J vxx Safe(r) ?
It delivers the same mRNA code as all the others but it does it with another virus.

The mRNA code makes exactly the same spike proteins.

The virus has not been isolated. Instead they were given the code from the Wuhan laboratory.
Pfizer redefining rare.
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Sure it is if you listen to people who got paid to tell ya so.



you should get some!
the FDA went to court and wanted all vax data hidden until 2075 what does that tell ya!
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Re: is the J&J vxx Safe(r) ?
Do a web search for the terms "J&J Mayo JAMA" that appeared in the past month.

You'll find things like:

"Mayo Clinic Study Reveals J&J Vaccine Recipients Four Times More Prone to Blood Clots

"The Mayo Clinic released a study on Nov. 1 revealing that Minnesota residents from Olmsted County who received the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine are 3.7 times more likely to develop blood clots.

"The study was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association."


If you want something "safer," why not wait for the Novavax vaccine?

It uses a virus that affects only insects and spiders, injects it into moths, waits for the moths to develop spike proteins, harvests the spike proteins, embeds them into nanoparticles and — voilà! — you've got your vaccine.

(Look this up if you think I'm making it up.)

NO VACCINE IS SAFE.

PERIOD!

 Quoting: CTU.Agent


I agree that Novavax is probably the safest one, but I have no reason to get vaxxed. I got covid and got over it, so I have full immunity and I don't like getting jabbed with any foreign substance! I'm just concerned about my friend.

It's possible that the vector virus in J&J could be eliminated by a strong immune system before the pathogenic DNA/mRNA sequence could produce much in the way of spike proteins. She only got the vaxx because of external demands - she never got covid and is probably immune. There's no real reason for her to ever be vaxxed.
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Re: is the J&J vxx Safe(r) ?
Do a web search for the terms "J&J Mayo JAMA" that appeared in the past month.

You'll find things like:

"Mayo Clinic Study Reveals J&J Vaccine Recipients Four Times More Prone to Blood Clots

"The Mayo Clinic released a study on Nov. 1 revealing that Minnesota residents from Olmsted County who received the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine are 3.7 times more likely to develop blood clots.

"The study was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association."


If you want something "safer," why not wait for the Novavax vaccine?

It uses a virus that affects only insects and spiders, injects it into moths, waits for the moths to develop spike proteins, harvests the spike proteins, embeds them into nanoparticles and — voilà! — you've got your vaccine.

(Look this up if you think I'm making it up.)

NO VACCINE IS SAFE.

PERIOD!

 Quoting: CTU.Agent


I agree that Novavax is probably the safest one, but I have no reason to get vaxxed. I got covid and got over it, so I have full immunity and I don't like getting jabbed with any foreign substance! I'm just concerned about my friend.

It's possible that the vector virus in J&J could be eliminated by a strong immune system before the pathogenic DNA/mRNA sequence could produce much in the way of spike proteins. She only got the vaxx because of external demands - she never got covid and is probably immune. There's no real reason for her to ever be vaxxed.
 Quoting: FeralOne


Please reread my post. In no way do I think that Novavax is safe at all.

Seriously? You think basically injecting an insect virus in you is safe?
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damn it all
the GF doesn't want to take it but she has to or lose her job
at the hospital
it seems that pfizer is the greatest of three evils

this sucks
rant
 Quoting: Danger Dan


No problems in my family that took JnJ
Went on Prophylactic IVM a week before the shot and remained on for 3 months after. Also the other supplements ( D, zinc, C, NAC, nattokinase)
And lots and lots of water
Not even sore arms

Suggest any female taking birth control stop before taking the vaxx and stay off for 3 months. More women have died of blood clots from birth control than JnJ ..why double the risk

Pfizer is the worst and dishonest as hell.

Moderna is not even an option for young people under 30 in advanced countries, what does that tell you.

Last Edited by Dodger007 on 11/22/2021 11:35 AM
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It delivers the same mRNA code as all the others but it does it with another virus.

The mRNA code makes exactly the same spike proteins.

The virus has not been isolated. Instead they were given the code from the Wuhan laboratory.
 Quoting: burneracct


Dr McCullough talked about a study showing the nano lipids in the artificial vaxxes were traveling to the heart, where spike proteins were then being generated leading antibodies to attack the heart. The MRNA delivery vectors in Pfizer and Moderna are artificial lab creations. In JnJ and Astrozenica, the delivery vectors are weakened nonreplicating adenoviruses.

So there’s that distinction
Our govt agencies hold JnJ to a far different higher critical standard on reporting side effects…sensationally. As compared to Pfizer now being pumped into little kids.. They are all pimping Pfizer.
What does that tell you?

Last Edited by Dodger007 on 11/22/2021 11:10 AM
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damn it all
the GF doesn't want to take it but she has to or lose her job
at the hospital
it seems that pfizer is the greatest of three evils

this sucks
rant
 Quoting: Danger Dan


Moderna has twice the instructions to build twice the amount or more, of the spiked proteins. but these factories just keep saturating the body, she has to chose life and wait it out, not job. Seriously this is a survival thing.
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My BFF and I both took the JandJ shot near the end of March. I'm 75 and she's 88. No side effects for me except a somewhat sore arm for a day...she didn't even get that. Nothing at all unusual for either of us health-wise.

I know we don't have the largest of social circles, but really we don't know anyone who got the shot who has had any major issues, or has died. We know a bunch of people who actually got Covid and survived, and we only know one who died from Covid. Some years we lose several acquaintances to the flu, so this isn't much worse than that.


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