Kyle Rittenhouse Trial - Verdict Is In ! - NOT GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES ! | |
ScrumpTheTexan
Forum Administrator 11/19/2021 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look how we all feel about this, can’t even imagine what that poor kid is going through and what he will go through no matter what the verdict is MSM and leftist politicians put a target on his back They work for and report directly to Satan. I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Lady Jane Smith
Forum Administrator 11/19/2021 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look how we all feel about this, can’t even imagine what that poor kid is going through and what he will go through no matter what the verdict is MSM and leftist politicians put a target on his back He needs to relocate, after the mistrial, to a red state and file a civil suit against the media. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
GooPile
User ID: 81127134 Australia 11/19/2021 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am with camp Kyle. However, if the jury is in possession of higher definition footage which indisputably shows Rittenhouse pointed his gun, then maybe some of the murder charges (not necessarily 1st degree) could be argued. If it is like the footage we've seen, then utter b/s. Even if you believe that it could be showing what the prosecutor alleges, there is nothing for certain in that video and you are SUPPOSE to award the person benefit of doubt, especially in light of the fact that it is not his regular hand. Someone did upload that the new video, but it was highly compressed by Twitter to the same 4mb size as the one they supplied the defense. Only zoomed in presentations like this would preserve some of that added quality (not sure if this is sourced from it or not). Quoting: GooPile [link to twitter.com (secure)] If that video is shown to be what caused the jury to convict, he should get a mistrial based on it due to the fact that prosecution didn't provide the high def video whereby the defense could have formulated arguments about Zed Nafinski having a gun in his hand as he approached Kyle, as some say. It does not necessarily constitute a lie on Kyle's part the fact that he made no mention of ever raising his weapon. I would not remember half the things these people claim to, and I suspect their memories are helped by things like video evidence. Would I remember that detail? I don't know. Not saying a 'reasonable person' wouldn't. Maybe I would. Let it go to court in that form. It does not show Kyle pointing gun at someone. Playing devils advocate, even IF it did show that he did: 1) the defense pointed out he was holding the gun with his left arm and is right handed, of which there is ample evidence, when did the prosecution counter that with proof he was ambidextrous? It wasn't even put to the jury. 2) if I recall, the defense said something about firing a weapon like that with the wrong hand may have been hazardous? If so, I wanted to know more from the defense about that argument, but it was argued so where was the counter-argument? 3) some say that you can't freely switch hands like that in that strap, is that right? The jury is suppose to decide based on what was argued and presented to the courts: 1) The video allegedly shows he raised his gun in his left hand. 2) Kyle is allegedly right handed and no evidence or even questioning to that fact was presented by the prosecution saying that he was ambidextrous, so that can't be considered. So the jury must accept that he was right handed and he lifted the gun in his left incompetent hand. Why would he even do that when he has the other hand? 3) The defense said something about hazards. Where was the counter? The jury can only take onboard that it has hazards, because I don't recall the prosecution countering it in the court. 4) The defense never (to my knowledge) argued it couldn't be freely switched from right hand to left hand, so the jury can't consider that. So as far as I can tell, the video has to be very persuasive and I just don't see it in what we have. Last Edited by GooPile on 11/19/2021 10:53 AM GooPile |
BBQ BOY™
(OP) User ID: 80860776 United States 11/19/2021 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good morning everyone Just got back and catching up. Jurors have been deliberating for 23 hours 30 minutes now. 8 hours 30 minutes Tuesday 7 hours Wednesday 7 hours Thursday 1 hour today "Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others." Everyone has to work out their own salvation. Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards. |
Nickadimus
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Buzzcheeze
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PINKORCHID88;}~LET'S GO
User ID: 81141404 Australia 11/19/2021 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who turned the stop light red. Warning proceeding to read this may cause anxiety, poster is indemnified if you proceed. I can't give you the ultimate truth ,it's all a matter of perspective and spin. So I empower you with the gift of discernment. SEE THE TRUTH , KNOW THE TRUTH, FEEL THE TRUTH |
Weyoun
User ID: 81110693 United States 11/19/2021 10:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They won’t, I believe that in my heart I do believe it will be hung and I hope the judge does the right thing Here's my take. I think the Judge is a lot smarter than most people think, in fact, he's let a ton of rope out for everyone to basically hang themselves. For instance the prosecution, MSM, and more, so when things get to that boiling point I'm going to wager he declares a mistrial with prejudice, then points to all the errors. I think you are officially guilty of wishful thinking.... Another speculative take, for entertainment purposes only: Robert Barnes has repeatedly hinted that Kyle's handler, Hancock, is a spook. Why would Kyle have a spook handler? On that fateful night, Kyle demonstrated nerves of steel and exceptional tactical instincts. With minimal training, he reacted with the cat-like lightning reflexes of an experienced spec ops ninja. Maybe Kyle already got recruited into some black ops Bourne program and the trial is a cover story? Last Edited by Weyoun on 11/19/2021 10:58 AM |
TheEmptyChild
User ID: 79273848 United States 11/19/2021 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He made stupid assumptions that cost two people their lives. Quoting: RationalOne The end. He must pay in some way. If not, it will open the door to use a perceived threat as justification for murder, regardless of who the aggressor actually is. Bring a rifle around drunk/drugged people in a frenzy, expect trouble! Rittenhouse was in way over his head, he panicked and killed two people based on his own stupidity. Nope...not gonna allow it! If he gets off, expect WAY more restrictive gun laws, with plenty of support behind them. Fact. Wrong, wrong, wrong. The stupid choices were made by the asshole felons who attacked him, while committing multiple other felonies. Sorry, your comrades played stupid games and won stupid prizes. OBTW, shitty, low skill effort at trolling. Up your game, give us a challenge. I am entitled to my opinion, and nothing you wrote has changed anything. The fact is, one doesn't get to put themselves in danger, kill others, and then claim he thought he was in danger! It's not "trolling " to disagree. Yes, you entitled to your illogical opinion. Logic has never been a libtard strong suit. Like it was explained yesterday...if you go to a bar and call someone fat and they start attacking you with a knife...you don't have to just let them kill you because you triggered them by calling them fat. It doesn't work that way. |
BBQ BOY™
(OP) User ID: 80860776 United States 11/19/2021 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | https://twitter.com/_/status/1461726110161506309 "Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others." Everyone has to work out their own salvation. Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards. |
Weyoun
User ID: 81110693 United States 11/19/2021 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Lady Jane Smith Wrong, wrong, wrong. The stupid choices were made by the asshole felons who attacked him, while committing multiple other felonies. Sorry, your comrades played stupid games and won stupid prizes. OBTW, shitty, low skill effort at trolling. Up your game, give us a challenge. I am entitled to my opinion, and nothing you wrote has changed anything. The fact is, one doesn't get to put themselves in danger, kill others, and then claim he thought he was in danger! It's not "trolling " to disagree. Yes, you entitled to your illogical opinion. Logic has never been a libtard strong suit. Like it was explained yesterday...if you go to a bar and call someone fat and they start attacking you with a knife...you don't have to just let them kill you because you triggered them by calling them fat. It doesn't work that way. Those who blame Kyle are the same ones who would say Rosenbaum's child rape victims are at fault for getting themselves into a situation that "provoked" Rosenbaum to sodomize them. The classic rapist's defense. |
Mary T
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Oaken Paw
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~Jazz~
Forum Administrator 11/19/2021 11:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry if this is a dumb question. If the jury comes back with a guilty decision, can the judge overrule it? Quoting: Oaken Paw Yes. He's saving the right to rule on defenses' motion to dismiss with/without prejudice just in case of that. To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
Oaken Paw
It's the wood that makes it good User ID: 75276837 United States 11/19/2021 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry if this is a dumb question. If the jury comes back with a guilty decision, can the judge overrule it? Quoting: Oaken Paw Yes. He's saving the right to rule on defenses' motion to dismiss with/without prejudice just in case of that. Got it. Thanks Everything has got to be a THING today |
Rachael123
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BBQ BOY™
(OP) User ID: 80860776 United States 11/19/2021 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry if this is a dumb question. If the jury comes back with a guilty decision, can the judge overrule it? Quoting: Oaken Paw Yes. He's saving the right to rule on defenses' motion to dismiss with/without prejudice just in case of that. They Just Said on Rekieta Law that the State has filed a response to the Mistrial motion, but did not say which one. "Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others." Everyone has to work out their own salvation. Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards. |
Don Draper from Nantucket
User ID: 71712018 United States 11/19/2021 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For me this case is now moving into the same surreal land that we've grown used to seeing every high profile issue grow into nowadays. The kind where you are just sitting there scratching your head thinking how in the hell did it come to this. This farce need to end and this young man needs to be allowed to return home to be with his family. Quoting: Don Draper from Nantucket rant/ Oh yeah, there is no way this would have taken this long without this being the outcome we will receive. In todays world a white man is supposed to "take a little beating once in a while" instead of defending his own damn life! Justice as is the case with our Constitution are things of the past in todays AmeriKa..... PLATA BITCHEZZZZZZ UPGRADE UNAVAILABLE The Rolling Stones said it best... "What's confusing you is the nature of my game" |
GooPile
User ID: 81127134 Australia 11/19/2021 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am with camp Kyle. However, if the jury is in possession of higher definition footage which indisputably shows Rittenhouse pointed his gun, then maybe some of the murder charges (not necessarily 1st degree) could be argued. If it is like the footage we've seen, then utter b/s. Even if you believe that it could be showing what the prosecutor alleges, there is nothing for certain in that video and you are SUPPOSE to award the person benefit of doubt, especially in light of the fact that it is not his regular hand. Someone did upload that the new video, but it was highly compressed by Twitter to the same 4mb size as the one they supplied the defense. Only zoomed in presentations like this would preserve some of that added quality (not sure if this is sourced from it or not). Quoting: GooPile [link to twitter.com (secure)] If that video is shown to be what caused the jury to convict, he should get a mistrial based on it due to the fact that prosecution didn't provide the high def video whereby the defense could have formulated arguments about Zed Nafinski having a gun in his hand as he approached Kyle, as some say. It does not necessarily constitute a lie on Kyle's part the fact that he made no mention of ever raising his weapon. I would not remember half the things these people claim to, and I suspect their memories are helped by things like video evidence. Would I remember that detail? I don't know. Not saying a 'reasonable person' wouldn't. Maybe I would. Let it go to court in that form. It does not show Kyle pointing gun at someone. Playing devils advocate, even IF it did show that he did: 1) the defense pointed out he was holding the gun with his left arm and is right handed, of which there is ample evidence, when did the prosecution counter that with proof he was ambidextrous? It wasn't even put to the jury. 2) if I recall, the defense said something about firing a weapon like that with the wrong hand may have been hazardous? If so, I wanted to know more from the defense about that argument, but it was argued so where was the counter-argument? 3) some say that you can't freely switch hands like that in that strap, is that right? The jury is suppose to decide based on what was argued and presented to the courts: 1) The video allegedly shows he raised his gun in his left hand. 2) Kyle is allegedly right handed and no evidence or even questioning to that fact was presented by the prosecution saying that he was ambidextrous, so that can't be considered. So the jury must accept that he was right handed and he lifted the gun in his left incompetent hand. Why would he even do that when he has the other hand? 3) The defense said something about hazards. Where was the counter? The jury can only take onboard that it has hazards, because I don't recall the prosecution countering it in the court. 4) The defense never (to my knowledge) argued it couldn't be freely switched from right hand to left hand, so the jury can't consider that. So as far as I can tell, the video has to be very persuasive and I just don't see it in what we have. That said, I missed the prosecutors rebuttal to the closing arguments by the defense. Maybe I should go back over that... I bet they didn't counter the left handed/right handed stuff, but then... I just realized I have been assuming. I did miss the rebuttal. GooPile |
~Jazz~
Forum Administrator 11/19/2021 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry if this is a dumb question. If the jury comes back with a guilty decision, can the judge overrule it? Quoting: Oaken Paw Yes. He's saving the right to rule on defenses' motion to dismiss with/without prejudice just in case of that. They Just Said on Rekieta Law that the State has filed a response to the Mistrial motion, but did not say which one. Hopefully, it's enough to get this judge to finally find his balls and shut them down. To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
BBQ BOY™
(OP) User ID: 80860776 United States 11/19/2021 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am with camp Kyle. However, if the jury is in possession of higher definition footage which indisputably shows Rittenhouse pointed his gun, then maybe some of the murder charges (not necessarily 1st degree) could be argued. If it is like the footage we've seen, then utter b/s. Even if you believe that it could be showing what the prosecutor alleges, there is nothing for certain in that video and you are SUPPOSE to award the person benefit of doubt, especially in light of the fact that it is not his regular hand. Someone did upload that the new video, but it was highly compressed by Twitter to the same 4mb size as the one they supplied the defense. Only zoomed in presentations like this would preserve some of that added quality (not sure if this is sourced from it or not). Quoting: GooPile [link to twitter.com (secure)] If that video is shown to be what caused the jury to convict, he should get a mistrial based on it due to the fact that prosecution didn't provide the high def video whereby the defense could have formulated arguments about Zed Nafinski having a gun in his hand as he approached Kyle, as some say. It does not necessarily constitute a lie on Kyle's part the fact that he made no mention of ever raising his weapon. I would not remember half the things these people claim to, and I suspect their memories are helped by things like video evidence. Would I remember that detail? I don't know. Not saying a 'reasonable person' wouldn't. Maybe I would. Let it go to court in that form. It does not show Kyle pointing gun at someone. Playing devils advocate, even IF it did show that he did: 1) the defense pointed out he was holding the gun with his left arm and is right handed, of which there is ample evidence, when did the prosecution counter that with proof he was ambidextrous? It wasn't even put to the jury. 2) if I recall, the defense said something about firing a weapon like that with the wrong hand may have been hazardous? If so, I wanted to know more from the defense about that argument, but it was argued so where was the counter-argument? 3) some say that you can't freely switch hands like that in that strap, is that right? The jury is suppose to decide based on what was argued and presented to the courts: 1) The video allegedly shows he raised his gun in his left hand. 2) Kyle is allegedly right handed and no evidence or even questioning to that fact was presented by the prosecution saying that he was ambidextrous, so that can't be considered. So the jury must accept that he was right handed and he lifted the gun in his left incompetent hand. Why would he even do that when he has the other hand? 3) The defense said something about hazards. Where was the counter? The jury can only take onboard that it has hazards, because I don't recall the prosecution countering it in the court. 4) The defense never (to my knowledge) argued it couldn't be freely switched from right hand to left hand, so the jury can't consider that. So as far as I can tell, the video has to be very persuasive and I just don't see it in what we have. That said, I missed the prosecutors rebuttal to the closing arguments by the defense. Maybe I should go back over that... I bet they didn't counter the left handed/right handed stuff, but then... I just realized I have been assuming. I did miss the rebuttal. Prosecution Rebuttal Closing Argument by Jame Kraus "Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others." Everyone has to work out their own salvation. Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards. |
Dleeb
User ID: 81160063 United States 11/19/2021 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is an extremely sad trial and the worst part is everyone has strong feelings about gun rights and self defense arguments in regards to guns. It has become impossible to speak to my father about any of this but he said something that is really ringing true today. When discussing this he listened to the prosecution, and because confirmation bias, he believes and makes up things in his mind regarding this case. When trying to show him examples such as, video and testimony counter to his beliefs he answers with "I don't care about the examples, I don't care about the facts, I have my opinion and you can't change it." Here is a guy who grew up in the late 60s and 70s, marched with blacks for equal treatment under the law, and believes in those ideas, and claims he is open minded. Yet, he doesn't care to see any proof that goes counter to his argument and would make him think. In the end Goebelles ideas about media and the control of it has won out over time. Essentially I'm saying, this kid may be skewered because people can't seem to remove themselves from their feelings and beliefs and look objectively. I hope anyone that's holding steadfast and won't consider anything counter counter their beliefs has to have a trial of their peers and is put in a similar awful position. I usually hold back from wishing bad on individuals, but we are going too far. People claim to be open minded, but at the end of the day, they only want want hear what makes them happy, not what would make them think. We are a fat, ugly, and extremely lazy nation. It's disgusting, and shit show trials like this are only reinforcing that our proud nation of laws is just a parody of what it was intended. Suffice it to say, we're fucked. |
T-Man
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Weyoun
User ID: 81110693 United States 11/19/2021 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bullies, abusers, and rapists hate that guns allow the weak to defend themselves. They argue the victim should just "take it like a man" or "put up fists." Likewise, they blame the victim for enticing the rapist and getting themselves in a "dangerous situation." Of course, it's the rapists who created the dangerous situation in the first place. A boy should be able to walk around town without being ambushed by pedos. When i was young, i would play outside by myself all the time and my mom didn't worry. Nowadays, with Rosenbaums running amock, wrecking havok on neighborhoods and children everywhere, it's become a necessity for every citizen, even teens, to carry a firearm at all times. Those siding with the Rosenbaums of this world put their vile hearts on display. It's no surprise they are the same people who celebrate satanic child rape and abuse, and celebrate torturing babies to death. |
DestinyAKA-Des
User ID: 81144313 United States 11/19/2021 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just got this in email. Supposedly a 6 6 split. I don't know if factual. The Rittenhouse Jurors’ Verdict Count Was Just Overheard in Court… [link to populist.press (secure)] Last Edited by DestinyAKA-Des on 11/19/2021 11:31 AM Petite Southern Gun Toting Bubbette NO. Is a complete sentence. |
BBQ BOY™
(OP) User ID: 80860776 United States 11/19/2021 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jurors have been deliberating for 24 hours now. 8 hours 30 minutes Tuesday 7 hours Wednesday 7 hours Thursday 1 hour and 30 minutes today "Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others." Everyone has to work out their own salvation. Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards. |
Corporal Punishment
User ID: 24262777 United States 11/19/2021 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is an extremely sad trial and the worst part is everyone has strong feelings about gun rights and self defense arguments in regards to guns. It has become impossible to speak to my father about any of this but he said something that is really ringing true today. When discussing this he listened to the prosecution, and because confirmation bias, he believes and makes up things in his mind regarding this case. When trying to show him examples such as, video and testimony counter to his beliefs he answers with "I don't care about the examples, I don't care about the facts, I have my opinion and you can't change it." Here is a guy who grew up in the late 60s and 70s, marched with blacks for equal treatment under the law, and believes in those ideas, and claims he is open minded. Yet, he doesn't care to see any proof that goes counter to his argument and would make him think. In the end Goebelles ideas about media and the control of it has won out over time. Essentially I'm saying, this kid may be skewered because people can't seem to remove themselves from their feelings and beliefs and look objectively. I hope anyone that's holding steadfast and won't consider anything counter counter their beliefs has to have a trial of their peers and is put in a similar awful position. I usually hold back from wishing bad on individuals, but we are going too far. People claim to be open minded, but at the end of the day, they only want want hear what makes them happy, not what would make them think. We are a fat, ugly, and extremely lazy nation. It's disgusting, and shit show trials like this are only reinforcing that our proud nation of laws is just a parody of what it was intended. Suffice it to say, we're fucked. Quoting: Dleeb I hate to say it but your dad has embraced evil. Evil is the supremacy of the will. It is wanting reality to be, not something we discover, but something we determine. It is wanting to be God. Sadly, far too many Americans have embraced evil. Even our loved ones have gone down the path of darkness. All we can do is live right ourselves and pray. |
Debug
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~Jazz~
Forum Administrator 11/19/2021 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bullies, abusers, and rapists hate that guns allow the weak to defend themselves. They argue the victim should just "take it like a man" or "put up fists." Likewise, they blame the victim for enticing the rapist and getting themselves in a "dangerous situation." Of course, it's the rapists who created the dangerous situation in the first place. A boy should be able to walk around town without being ambushed by pedos. Quoting: Weyoun When i was young, i would play outside by myself all the time and my mom didn't worry. Nowadays, with Rosenbaums running amock, wrecking havok on neighborhoods and children everywhere, it's become a necessity for every citizen, even teens, to carry a firearm at all times. Those siding with the Rosenbaums of this world put their vile hearts on display. It's no surprise they are the same people who celebrate satanic child rape and abuse, and celebrate torturing babies to death. Yes. I liken it to the depraved breaking down the doors of Lots' house and demanding to rape the angels. There is no sin too vile for them. To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
PINKORCHID88;}~LET'S GO
User ID: 81141404 Australia 11/19/2021 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just got this in email. Supposedly a 6 6 split. I don't know if factual. Quoting: DestinyAKA-Des The Rittenhouse Jurors’ Verdict Count Was Just Overheard in Court… [link to populist.press (secure)] Rekieta Law brought that up half an hour ago , said it was just a rumor being pushed. I can see that too with the focus needing misdirection from juror 54(?) Warning proceeding to read this may cause anxiety, poster is indemnified if you proceed. I can't give you the ultimate truth ,it's all a matter of perspective and spin. So I empower you with the gift of discernment. SEE THE TRUTH , KNOW THE TRUTH, FEEL THE TRUTH |