Kyle Rittenhouse Trial - Verdict Is In ! - NOT GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES ! | |
ThereRMeds
User ID: 81107201 United States 11/19/2021 10:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I feel like today is the day Quoting: ~kpm~ If it’s truly holdouts, it will be hung, that Karen demanding evidence is dug in The people with common sense who KNOW this is self defense CAN NOT GIVE IN. They won’t, I believe that in my heart I do believe it will be hung and I hope the judge does the right thing Here's my take. I think the Judge is a lot smarter than most people think, in fact, he's let a ton of rope out for everyone to basically hang themselves. For instance the prosecution, MSM, and more, so when things get to that boiling point I'm going to wager he declares a mistrial with prejudice, then points to all the errors. This was my take earlier. He definitely knows the people of his community better than we do & can see the body language of the Jurors. At the same time he reminds me of the parent constantly yelling that their kid has gone too far but never actually imposing discipline. ThereRMeds4That |
GooPile
User ID: 81127134 Australia 11/19/2021 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am with camp Kyle. However, if the jury is in possession of higher definition footage which indisputably shows Rittenhouse pointed his gun, then maybe some of the murder charges (not necessarily 1st degree) could be argued. If it is like the footage we've seen, then utter b/s. Even if you believe that it could be showing what the prosecutor alleges, there is nothing for certain in that video and you are SUPPOSE to award the person benefit of doubt, especially in light of the fact that it is not his regular hand. Someone did upload that the new video, but it was highly compressed by Twitter to the same 4mb size as the one they supplied the defense. Only zoomed in presentations like this would preserve some of that added quality (not sure if this is sourced from it or not). [link to twitter.com (secure)] If that video is shown to be what caused the jury to convict, he should get a mistrial based on it due to the fact that prosecution didn't provide the high def video whereby the defense could have formulated arguments about Zed Nafinski having a gun in his hand as he approached Kyle, as some say. It does not necessarily constitute a lie on Kyle's part the fact that he made no mention of ever raising his weapon. I would not remember half the things these people claim to, and I suspect their memories are helped by things like video evidence. Would I remember that detail? I don't know. Not saying a 'reasonable person' wouldn't. Maybe I would. Let it go to court in that form. (Don't start quoting me on his name being Zed Nafinsky. LOL.) Last Edited by GooPile on 11/19/2021 10:24 AM GooPile |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78699487 United States 11/19/2021 10:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I feel like today is the day Quoting: ~kpm~ If it’s truly holdouts, it will be hung, that Karen demanding evidence is dug in The bigger question will be if its a hung jury, will the stupid protestors still burn shit down? I'm still confused as to who or why the protests? If anyone I would think anti-gun people, but it's mostly BLM? Why? Because this trial isn't about justice for them. It's about dominating the white man and devouring his children. ^^^^This |
Cheops
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Simple27
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~Jazz~
Forum Administrator 11/19/2021 10:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it will be a hung jury. Unfortunately, the judge will not declare a mistrial with prejudice. He isn’t that brave or faithful to the law. Quoting: Corporal Punishment On the next trial Rittenhouse needs a better defense team. These guys just weren’t that good. Can he afford better attorneys? RKL said yesterday that he had enough donations coming in to afford the best money could hire To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
Simple27
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FeedYourHead
User ID: 77416429 United States 11/19/2021 10:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He made stupid assumptions that cost two people their lives. Quoting: RationalOne The end. He must pay in some way. If not, it will open the door to use a perceived threat as justification for murder, regardless of who the aggressor actually is. Bring a rifle around drunk/drugged people in a frenzy, expect trouble! Rittenhouse was in way over his head, he panicked and killed two people based on his own stupidity. Nope...not gonna allow it! If he gets off, expect WAY more restrictive gun laws, with plenty of support behind them. Fact. Wrong, wrong, wrong. The stupid choices were made by the asshole felons who attacked him, while committing multiple other felonies. Sorry, your comrades played stupid games and won stupid prizes. OBTW, shitty, low skill effort at trolling. Up your game, give us a challenge. I am entitled to my opinion, and nothing you wrote has changed anything. The fact is, one doesn't get to put themselves in danger, kill others, and then claim he thought he was in danger! It's not "trolling " to disagree. OMG.....IF Kyle wasn't in "DANGER" (Your Word) there wouldn't have been any need for him to have ever fired his gun. So, lets use your logic...those who ATTACKED Kyle don't get to put THEMSELVES IN DANGER and then claim they were in "danger".... Ask Alice when she's 10ft tall This is a battle for the future of civilization. If free speech is lost even in America, tyranny is all that lies ahead. Elon Musk |
Cheops
User ID: 80273058 United States 11/19/2021 10:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am with camp Kyle. However, if the jury is in possession of higher definition footage which indisputably shows Rittenhouse pointed his gun, then maybe some of the murder charges (not necessarily 1st degree) could be argued. If it is like the footage we've seen, then utter b/s. Even if you believe that it could be showing what the prosecutor alleges, there is nothing for certain in that video and you are SUPPOSE to award the person benefit of doubt, especially in light of the fact that it is not his regular hand. Someone did upload that the new video, but it was highly compressed by Twitter to the same 4mb size as the one they supplied the defense. Only zoomed in presentations like this would preserve some of that added quality (not sure if this is sourced from it or not). Quoting: GooPile [link to twitter.com (secure)] If that video is shown to be what caused the jury to convict, he should get a mistrial based on it due to the fact that prosecution didn't provide the high def video whereby the defense could have formulated arguments about Zed Nafinski having a gun in his hand as he approached Kyle, as some say. It does not necessarily constitute a lie on Kyle's part the fact that he made no mention of ever raising his weapon. I would not remember half the things these people claim to, and I suspect their memories are helped by things like video evidence. Would I remember that detail? I don't know. Not saying a 'reasonable person' wouldn't. Maybe I would. Let it go to court in that form. It does not show Kyle pointing gun at someone. |
Mistaken Identity
User ID: 81095737 United States 11/19/2021 10:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I feel like today is the day Quoting: ~kpm~ If it’s truly holdouts, it will be hung, that Karen demanding evidence is dug in The people with common sense who KNOW this is self defense CAN NOT GIVE IN. They won’t, I believe that in my heart I do believe it will be hung and I hope the judge does the right thing Here's my take. I think the Judge is a lot smarter than most people think, in fact, he's let a ton of rope out for everyone to basically hang themselves. For instance the prosecution, MSM, and more, so when things get to that boiling point I'm going to wager he declares a mistrial with prejudice, then points to all the errors. I hope you are correct. To me, the judge seems more worried about public opinion than the law. |
Don Draper from Nantucket
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Cheops
User ID: 80273058 United States 11/19/2021 10:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it will be a hung jury. Unfortunately, the judge will not declare a mistrial with prejudice. He isn’t that brave or faithful to the law. Quoting: Corporal Punishment On the next trial Rittenhouse needs a better defense team. These guys just weren’t that good. Can he afford better attorneys? RKL said yesterday that he had enough donations coming in to afford the best money could hire At least there is that. He should get Andrew Branca. Last Edited by Cheops on 11/19/2021 10:25 AM |
Corporal Punishment
User ID: 24262777 United States 11/19/2021 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it will be a hung jury. Unfortunately, the judge will not declare a mistrial with prejudice. He isn’t that brave or faithful to the law. Quoting: Corporal Punishment On the next trial Rittenhouse needs a better defense team. These guys just weren’t that good. Can he afford better attorneys? He should figure out a way. Plenty of people would help support his defense with donations. I thought there had already been donations for his defense. But, these guys aren’t good. What amazes me is the defense attorney in the Derick Chauvin case was so much better than these guys. He was all by himself. |
Corporal Punishment
User ID: 24262777 United States 11/19/2021 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I feel like today is the day Quoting: ~kpm~ If it’s truly holdouts, it will be hung, that Karen demanding evidence is dug in The people with common sense who KNOW this is self defense CAN NOT GIVE IN. They won’t, I believe that in my heart I do believe it will be hung and I hope the judge does the right thing Here's my take. I think the Judge is a lot smarter than most people think, in fact, he's let a ton of rope out for everyone to basically hang themselves. For instance the prosecution, MSM, and more, so when things get to that boiling point I'm going to wager he declares a mistrial with prejudice, then points to all the errors. You may be right. But that seems like the QAnon theories in that it depends on the idea that there are hidden heroes in our government just waiting to do the right thing. I don’t think I’ve even seen that happen. Not once. Most people in our country have no integrity and no courage. People in government necessarily have even less than the average American. I can’t say it won’t happen. But id bet heavily against it. |
FeedYourHead
User ID: 77416429 United States 11/19/2021 10:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am with camp Kyle. However, if the jury is in possession of higher definition footage which indisputably shows Rittenhouse pointed his gun, then maybe some of the murder charges (not necessarily 1st degree) could be argued. If it is like the footage we've seen, then utter b/s. Even if you believe that it could be showing what the prosecutor alleges, there is nothing for certain in that video and you are SUPPOSE to award the person benefit of doubt, especially in light of the fact that it is not his regular hand. Someone did upload that the new video, but it was highly compressed by Twitter to the same 4mb size as the one they supplied the defense. Only zoomed in presentations like this would preserve some of that added quality (not sure if this is sourced from it or not). Quoting: GooPile [link to twitter.com (secure)] If that video is shown to be what caused the jury to convict, he should get a mistrial based on it due to the fact that prosecution didn't provide the high def video whereby the defense could have formulated arguments about Zed Nafinski having a gun in his hand as he approached Kyle, as some say. It does not necessarily constitute a lie on Kyle's part the fact that he made no mention of ever raising his weapon. I would not remember half the things these people claim to, and I suspect their memories are helped by things like video evidence. Would I remember that detail? I don't know. Not saying a 'reasonable person' wouldn't. Maybe I would. Let it go to court in that form. (Don't start quoting me on his name being Zed Nafinsky. LOL.) Therein lies the problem with the drone video. There was ZERO foundational evidence presented as to it's authenticity, no evidence as to who actually filmed it, the prosecution withheld the better quality video from the defense...HELL, the damn prosecution couldn't even tell the court where or who it came from ....it should NEVER have been allowed into evidence. Ask Alice when she's 10ft tall This is a battle for the future of civilization. If free speech is lost even in America, tyranny is all that lies ahead. Elon Musk |
Tangy
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Corporal Punishment
User ID: 24262777 United States 11/19/2021 10:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am with camp Kyle. However, if the jury is in possession of higher definition footage which indisputably shows Rittenhouse pointed his gun, then maybe some of the murder charges (not necessarily 1st degree) could be argued. If it is like the footage we've seen, then utter b/s. Even if you believe that it could be showing what the prosecutor alleges, there is nothing for certain in that video and you are SUPPOSE to award the person benefit of doubt, especially in light of the fact that it is not his regular hand. Someone did upload that the new video, but it was highly compressed by Twitter to the same 4mb size as the one they supplied the defense. Only zoomed in presentations like this would preserve some of that added quality (not sure if this is sourced from it or not). Quoting: GooPile [link to twitter.com (secure)] If that video is shown to be what caused the jury to convict, he should get a mistrial based on it due to the fact that prosecution didn't provide the high def video whereby the defense could have formulated arguments about Zed Nafinski having a gun in his hand as he approached Kyle, as some say. It does not necessarily constitute a lie on Kyle's part the fact that he made no mention of ever raising his weapon. I would not remember half the things these people claim to, and I suspect their memories are helped by things like video evidence. Would I remember that detail? I don't know. Not saying a 'reasonable person' wouldn't. Maybe I would. Let it go to court in that form. (Don't start quoting me on his name being Zed Nafinsky. LOL.) The footage does not can cannot show that Kyle pointed his gun. Video lies. Video is 2D and not 3D. We’ve all seen photographic or video illusions. Video, by itself, is not reliable evidence. If someone testified that Kyle pointed his gun and the video supported that it would be one thing. But by itself the video evidence is reasonably doubtful. Also, the video should never have been admitted as evidence. I can’t imagine how it was. No one testified as to the origin of the video, right? The judge is awful to have allowed it as evidence. |
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Corporal Punishment
User ID: 24262777 United States 11/19/2021 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am with camp Kyle. However, if the jury is in possession of higher definition footage which indisputably shows Rittenhouse pointed his gun, then maybe some of the murder charges (not necessarily 1st degree) could be argued. If it is like the footage we've seen, then utter b/s. Even if you believe that it could be showing what the prosecutor alleges, there is nothing for certain in that video and you are SUPPOSE to award the person benefit of doubt, especially in light of the fact that it is not his regular hand. Someone did upload that the new video, but it was highly compressed by Twitter to the same 4mb size as the one they supplied the defense. Only zoomed in presentations like this would preserve some of that added quality (not sure if this is sourced from it or not). Quoting: GooPile [link to twitter.com (secure)] If that video is shown to be what caused the jury to convict, he should get a mistrial based on it due to the fact that prosecution didn't provide the high def video whereby the defense could have formulated arguments about Zed Nafinski having a gun in his hand as he approached Kyle, as some say. It does not necessarily constitute a lie on Kyle's part the fact that he made no mention of ever raising his weapon. I would not remember half the things these people claim to, and I suspect their memories are helped by things like video evidence. Would I remember that detail? I don't know. Not saying a 'reasonable person' wouldn't. Maybe I would. Let it go to court in that form. (Don't start quoting me on his name being Zed Nafinsky. LOL.) Therein lies the problem with the drone video. There was ZERO foundational evidence presented as to it's authenticity, no evidence as to who actually filmed it, the prosecution withheld the better quality video from the defense...HELL, the damn prosecution couldn't even tell the court where or who it came from ....it should NEVER have been allowed into evidence. Yeah, this judge is awful for having allowed it in. I don’t see how anyone could hold out hope for him to declare a mistrial with prejudice. |
FeedYourHead
User ID: 77416429 United States 11/19/2021 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For me this case is now moving into the same surreal land that we've grown used to seeing every high profile issue grow into nowadays. The kind where you are just sitting there scratching your head thinking how in the hell did it come to this. This farce need to end and this young man needs to be allowed to return home to be with his family. Quoting: Don Draper from Nantucket rant/ Oh yeah, there is no way this would have taken this long without this being the outcome we will receive. In todays world a white man is supposed to "take a little beating once in a while" instead of defending his own damn life! Justice as is the case with our Constitution are things of the past in todays AmeriKa..... Ask Alice when she's 10ft tall This is a battle for the future of civilization. If free speech is lost even in America, tyranny is all that lies ahead. Elon Musk |
Eilonwy
User ID: 80952719 United States 11/19/2021 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Could it be that they want to maximize riot-ability by making sure to time the announcement for the weekend? “A grower of turnips or shaper of clay, a commot Farmer or a king--every man is a hero if he strives more for others than for himself alone.” Lloyd Alexander, The Castle of Llyr |
Weyoun
User ID: 81110693 United States 11/19/2021 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For me this case is now moving into the same surreal land that we've grown used to seeing every high profile issue grow into nowadays. The kind where you are just sitting there scratching your head thinking how in the hell did it come to this. This farce need to end and this young man needs to be allowed to return home to be with his family. Quoting: Don Draper from Nantucket rant/ I believe the evil ones are using this thing to push for pedos as a protected class, so they can make laws classifying "hate" crimes and "hate" speech against pedos. Just like they made transgenitals into "heroes", they already making Rosenbaum into hero, not despite him being pedo, but because he's pedo. Normalizing and celebrating pedo is the left's ultimate unholy grail and completely inline with satanic child sacrifice agenda. |
FeedYourHead
User ID: 77416429 United States 11/19/2021 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I feel like today is the day Quoting: ~kpm~ If it’s truly holdouts, it will be hung, that Karen demanding evidence is dug in The people with common sense who KNOW this is self defense CAN NOT GIVE IN. They won’t, I believe that in my heart I do believe it will be hung and I hope the judge does the right thing Here's my take. I think the Judge is a lot smarter than most people think, in fact, he's let a ton of rope out for everyone to basically hang themselves. For instance the prosecution, MSM, and more, so when things get to that boiling point I'm going to wager he declares a mistrial with prejudice, then points to all the errors. I think you are officially guilty of wishful thinking.... Ask Alice when she's 10ft tall This is a battle for the future of civilization. If free speech is lost even in America, tyranny is all that lies ahead. Elon Musk |
ScrumpTheTexan
Forum Administrator 11/19/2021 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This poor kid… man I feel bad for him. I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Eyeball Replacement
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~kpm~
User ID: 75950402 United States 11/19/2021 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look how we all feel about this, can’t even imagine what that poor kid is going through and what he will go through no matter what the verdict is MSM and leftist politicians put a target on his back ~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~ |
refraktor
User ID: 71080834 United States 11/19/2021 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good morning. Quoting: BBQ BOY™ Its day four of Verdict watch. Jurors have had the case for 22 hours 30 minutes now. 8 hours 30 minutes on Tuesday 7 hours on Wednesday 7 hours on Thursday Last night's rumour mill news is saying the Jury is split 6/6. Will we see a Hung Jury verdict today? Will the Judge declare a Mistrial with Prejudice? Court is expected to start at 10 am est. I posted this a little early this morning. I have to run up to the VA. I should be back by the time Deliberations start to update the original post with some live streams. Don,t forget, While this distraction is going on, the real trial everyone should be laser focused on is happening. Ghislaine Maxwell. And Epstein didnt kill himself either.. refraktor |
Lady Jane Smith
Forum Administrator 11/19/2021 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am with camp Kyle. However, if the jury is in possession of higher definition footage which indisputably shows Rittenhouse pointed his gun, then maybe some of the murder charges (not necessarily 1st degree) could be argued. If it is like the footage we've seen, then utter b/s. Even if you believe that it could be showing what the prosecutor alleges, there is nothing for certain in that video and you are SUPPOSE to award the person benefit of doubt, especially in light of the fact that it is not his regular hand. Someone did upload that the new video, but it was highly compressed by Twitter to the same 4mb size as the one they supplied the defense. Only zoomed in presentations like this would preserve some of that added quality (not sure if this is sourced from it or not). Quoting: GooPile [link to twitter.com (secure)] If that video is shown to be what caused the jury to convict, he should get a mistrial based on it due to the fact that prosecution didn't provide the high def video whereby the defense could have formulated arguments about Zed Nafinski having a gun in his hand as he approached Kyle, as some say. It does not necessarily constitute a lie on Kyle's part the fact that he made no mention of ever raising his weapon. I would not remember half the things these people claim to, and I suspect their memories are helped by things like video evidence. Would I remember that detail? I don't know. Not saying a 'reasonable person' wouldn't. Maybe I would. Let it go to court in that form. (Don't start quoting me on his name being Zed Nafinsky. LOL.) The footage does not can cannot show that Kyle pointed his gun. Video lies. Video is 2D and not 3D. We’ve all seen photographic or video illusions. Video, by itself, is not reliable evidence. If someone testified that Kyle pointed his gun and the video supported that it would be one thing. But by itself the video evidence is reasonably doubtful. Also, the video should never have been admitted as evidence. I can’t imagine how it was. No one testified as to the origin of the video, right? The judge is awful to have allowed it as evidence. Exactly. Making it hearsay. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
Vapor Trails
User ID: 74603668 United States 11/19/2021 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Could it be that they want to maximize riot-ability by making sure to time the announcement for the weekend? Quoting: Eilonwy I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity. ~Edgar Allen Poe [link to youtu.be (secure)] |
PINKORCHID88;}~LET'S GO
User ID: 81141404 Australia 11/19/2021 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someones got this. Do you wonder why so many bad things are coming to light about the Prosecution, and why so many have been activated to support and pay attention? Warning proceeding to read this may cause anxiety, poster is indemnified if you proceed. I can't give you the ultimate truth ,it's all a matter of perspective and spin. So I empower you with the gift of discernment. SEE THE TRUTH , KNOW THE TRUTH, FEEL THE TRUTH |