Kyle Rittenhouse Trial - Verdict Watch - Day 3 | |
SkymallBrookstone
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BBQ BOY™
(OP) User ID: 80860776 United States 11/18/2021 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Floyd Gondolli They won't convict because there's obviously jurors that are holding for an acquittal. They wouldn't go this long and then give in at the last minute. It'll be a hung jury if anything. So after a hung jury, what then? Retrial? Mistrial and then its up to the State if they want to spend the money and re try the case. If it’s a mistrial or hung jury, i can see the defense appealing this to the state Supreme Court. The prosecutor and judge have screwed up from day 2. I can see the state SC declaring a mistrial with prejudice for violating defendant’s constitutional rights and prosecutorial misconduct. If there is a conviction, and the Judge does not declare mistrial with prejudice, the questioning by the State that violated Kyles constitutional rights, and the motion made by his Defence, is enough to overturn this case by appeal The problem with that is Kyle sits in prison until that the case is overturned. Which could be years on end. "Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others." Everyone has to work out their own salvation. Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards. |
Lilopin
User ID: 16213727 United States 11/18/2021 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We will definitely get a verdict quickly...no one wants to be stuck in a hotel during Thanksgiving! Just my opinion. Quoting: GreyAlien1997 They are not in a hotel. they go home every night. And you can bet if this goes to Thanksgiving the Karen jurors will be talking about it at the dinner table - ETA - this better not go to Thanksgiving! . Last Edited by Lilopin on 11/18/2021 06:02 PM . My dog ate my pronouns, he/she/it - everywhere. (Clown World tees) . Want to make God laugh, tell Him 'your' plans. . Cremation... the only hope I have left for a smoking hot body... . God bless America! :flag waver: |
Lady Jane Smith
Forum Administrator 11/18/2021 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Eyeball Replacement With such people as "Karen", address them by only their first name. A downmarket diminutive of that name is even better -- for instance, address a Kathrine as Kathy or Kat, not Kate. It drives them crazy. What's the diminutive for "Karen?" Care-Care? Ren-Ren? Both are annoying. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
EightyEight
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~Jazz~
Forum Administrator 11/18/2021 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A jury of your peers does not mean that much now when almost all of your peers are insane communist lunatics. A jury of his peers would have immediately called for the jailing of the judge and prosecutor. Quoting: SkymallBrookstone A jury of KYLE'S peers should have all been young conservative men....not professional libbfuck karens. To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
~Jazz~
Forum Administrator 11/18/2021 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Disgusting cunt works for me. To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
18328
User ID: 80384718 United States 11/18/2021 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This a hung Jury. Quoting: BBQ BOY™ Unfortunately they can deliberate as long as they want and no one can stop them. When they finally decide they are a Hung Jury and tell the Judge. The Judge will give them the 'Allen Charge" and send them back to deliberate some more. Can the other members of the jury fire the foreKaren? No, I don't think so. And it wouldn't change anything. It'd just piss her off more, and she's still on the jury. And it would just strengthen her resolve to see "social justice" through. But that would allow another foreman to end the charade and tell the judge they are hung. I think the judge can if that person is not following instructions(like considering excluded testimony, ect) and the other jurors complain. I think. Maybe that's why the judge allowed said Karen to take the instructions home with her. He can have that checked and then say he DID NOT allow that and remove her from jury or declare mistrial with prejudice. Yeah I am clutching at straws, but at this point, who isn't? |
Clayton Bigsby
User ID: 78652278 United States 11/18/2021 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, I don't think so. And it wouldn't change anything. It'd just piss her off more, and she's still on the jury. And it would just strengthen her resolve to see "social justice" through. But that would allow another foreman to end the charade and tell the judge they are hung. I think the judge can if that person is not following instructions(like considering excluded testimony, ect) and the other jurors complain. I think. Maybe that's why the judge allowed said Karen to take the instructions home with her. He can have that checked and then say he DID NOT allow that and remove her from jury or declare mistrial with prejudice. Yeah I am clutching at straws, but at this point, who isn't? Definitely wishful thinking The Whole World Is A Stage |
Debug
User ID: 80720644 United States 11/18/2021 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This a hung Jury. Quoting: BBQ BOY™ Unfortunately they can deliberate as long as they want and no one can stop them. When they finally decide they are a Hung Jury and tell the Judge. The Judge will give them the 'Allen Charge" and send them back to deliberate some more. I wonder if he can invoke the "majority rule" in this case. That he can't do. In America a criminal jury has to be unanimous. |
Lilopin
User ID: 16213727 United States 11/18/2021 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I’m scratching my head on her taking the instructions home, your not supposed to look at news or discuss the case with anyone. Quoting: ~kpm~ This makes no sense She has been doing it all along. I have no doubt she is also receiving competent legal advice in formulating her arguments. I don’t doubt that either now She's not a karen. She's a plant put there to bring about the goobers desired outcome. I wouldn't doubt she's shadow goober herself. And as was said before 'volunteered' to be the foreman - oh- to the 'woke' people - 'fore' fucking 'person' . . My dog ate my pronouns, he/she/it - everywhere. (Clown World tees) . Want to make God laugh, tell Him 'your' plans. . Cremation... the only hope I have left for a smoking hot body... . God bless America! :flag waver: |
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Avenger1
User ID: 79174553 United States 11/18/2021 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We will definitely get a verdict quickly...no one wants to be stuck in a hotel during Thanksgiving! Just my opinion. Quoting: GreyAlien1997 They are not in a hotel. they go home every night. And you can bet if this goes to Thanksgiving the Karen jurors will be talking about it at the dinner table - ETA - this better not go to Thanksgiving! . Maybe the Karens on the jury will start worrying about Thanksgiving pies tmw. and throw in the towel. The civil-minded, reasonable adults will then hold a vote. "Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes" "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear" |
Avenger1
User ID: 79174553 United States 11/18/2021 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This a hung Jury. Quoting: BBQ BOY™ Unfortunately they can deliberate as long as they want and no one can stop them. When they finally decide they are a Hung Jury and tell the Judge. The Judge will give them the 'Allen Charge" and send them back to deliberate some more. I wonder if he can invoke the "majority rule" in this case. That he can't do. In America a criminal jury has to be unanimous. Thanks. "Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes" "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear" |
Lady Jane Smith
Forum Administrator 11/18/2021 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Lady Jane Smith A side note: There is NO WAY I would ever vote for a woman to be a jury foreman. Too much risk of getting a hyper emotional, or power hungry bitch. In fact, I think the best foreman would be a man who is reluctant to take the job. I prefer men as leaders too. Does this say something about the men on the jury? Men are the majority on the jury and the majority voted for a female foreman. I believe women are the majority on this jury. When did they start allowing women on juries? That's a troubling development lol I was on a Grand Jury in Texas once. Day 1 the DA walks in to address us and starts with, "I know you have heard that we can indict a ham sandwich ...". I quickly interrupted him and said, "You better have some evidence against that ham sandwich.". To which my fellow Grand Jurors fully agreed. In Texas, Grand Juries are not known for suffering BS, and are hand selected by the District Court Judge, not the DA. Unfortunately, what we are dealing with here is a trial jury -- a very different animal. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
18328
User ID: 80384718 United States 11/18/2021 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: The Way No, I don't think so. And it wouldn't change anything. It'd just piss her off more, and she's still on the jury. And it would just strengthen her resolve to see "social justice" through. But that would allow another foreman to end the charade and tell the judge they are hung. I think the judge can if that person is not following instructions(like considering excluded testimony, ect) and the other jurors complain. I think. Maybe that's why the judge allowed said Karen to take the instructions home with her. He can have that checked and then say he DID NOT allow that and remove her from jury or declare mistrial with prejudice. Yeah I am clutching at straws, but at this point, who isn't? Definitely wishful thinking Doing my best. There just has to be something resembling a silver lining here for Kyle. It's pathetic. |
Lady Jane Smith
Forum Administrator 11/18/2021 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Like you could really go home at night and not talk about it or see stuff about it at all. Quoting: sevenx My SO is my best friend. I would be talking my head off to him about it. (with his promise not to repeat of course) I'm sure these people are doing the same. There is literally no way you can just shut yourself off from everyone for this long. Well; for me anyway. lol I agree. Especially if the home and the family's lives are threatened. If we were about to hand down a decision that would piss off the loony left, I would let my husband know so he can brace for impact. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
Lilopin
User ID: 16213727 United States 11/18/2021 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We will definitely get a verdict quickly...no one wants to be stuck in a hotel during Thanksgiving! Just my opinion. Quoting: GreyAlien1997 They are not in a hotel. they go home every night. And you can bet if this goes to Thanksgiving the Karen jurors will be talking about it at the dinner table - ETA - this better not go to Thanksgiving! . Maybe the Karens on the jury will start worrying about Thanksgiving pies tmw. and throw in the towel. The civil-minded, reasonable adults will then hold a vote. Hopefully - 4 and 20 blackbirds baked in a pie - aka - crows! . . My dog ate my pronouns, he/she/it - everywhere. (Clown World tees) . Want to make God laugh, tell Him 'your' plans. . Cremation... the only hope I have left for a smoking hot body... . God bless America! :flag waver: |
Lady Jane Smith
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Lady Jane Smith
Forum Administrator 11/18/2021 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This a hung Jury. Quoting: BBQ BOY™ Unfortunately they can deliberate as long as they want and no one can stop them. When they finally decide they are a Hung Jury and tell the Judge. The Judge will give them the 'Allen Charge" and send them back to deliberate some more. I wonder if he can invoke the "majority rule" in this case. That he can't do. In America a criminal jury has to be unanimous. Majority only applies in a Grand Jury, not a trial jury. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
SoakedBC
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Blag Dahlia
User ID: 78111195 Denmark 11/18/2021 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Indeed. I am still impressed when I watch the footage. He kept his wits about him when most would have panicked and just started shooting. SInce it's kind of mucky and mired right now... If— BY RUDYARD KIPLING If you can keep your head when all about you Are losing theirs and blaming it on you, If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you, But make allowance for their doubting too; If you can wait and not be tired by waiting, Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies, Or being hated, don’t give way to hating, And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise: If you can dream—and not make dreams your master; If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim; If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster And treat those two impostors just the same; If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken, And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools: If you can make one heap of all your winnings And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss, And lose, and start again at your beginnings And never breathe a word about your loss; If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew To serve your turn long after they are gone, And so hold on when there is nothing in you Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’ If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch, If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you, If all men count with you, but none too much; If you can fill the unforgiving minute With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run, Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it, And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son! No fear. No distractions. AKA Johnny Animosity |
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Weyoun
User ID: 81110693 United States 11/18/2021 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mistrial and then its up to the State if they want to spend the money and re try the case. If it’s a mistrial or hung jury, i can see the defense appealing this to the state Supreme Court. The prosecutor and judge have screwed up from day 2. I can see the state SC declaring a mistrial with prejudice for violating defendant’s constitutional rights and prosecutorial misconduct. If there is a conviction, and the Judge does not declare mistrial with prejudice, the questioning by the State that violated Kyles constitutional rights, and the motion made by his Defence, is enough to overturn this case by appeal The problem with that is Kyle sits in prison until that the case is overturned. Which could be years on end. Maybe the judge can sentence him to deputization as the judge's bodyguard. Kind of like a work-release thing. They used to sentence people to fight in Vietnam or Iraq during wars. Last Edited by Weyoun on 11/18/2021 06:42 PM |
Weyoun
User ID: 81110693 United States 11/18/2021 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, I don't think so. And it wouldn't change anything. It'd just piss her off more, and she's still on the jury. And it would just strengthen her resolve to see "social justice" through. But that would allow another foreman to end the charade and tell the judge they are hung. I think the judge can if that person is not following instructions(like considering excluded testimony, ect) and the other jurors complain. I think. Maybe that's why the judge allowed said Karen to take the instructions home with her. He can have that checked and then say he DID NOT allow that and remove her from jury or declare mistrial with prejudice. Yeah I am clutching at straws, but at this point, who isn't? Giving her rope to hang herself. |
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Jeff_43
User ID: 81076928 United States 11/18/2021 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why tf does she want to bring the instructions home? Will she be able to annatate notes on it fro her “lawyer” friends and then Quoting: Weeping Willow79 Bring them back tomorrow and try to convince the others with her notes she took at home? She obviously has visions of grandeur. She will be on CNN and MSNBC 2 hours after the trial ends. She may already have contacted them. |
Sotired
User ID: 2492899 United States 11/18/2021 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Boombooms did this. It's your fault. You guys took your bribes, your easy jobs and your easy to acquire house. That was a bribe. And you sat there and never let the applecart get upset as they were stealing everything and corrupting everything. You let it happen and now you continue to watch it happen and let it because you don't want to lose your comfy retirement. Your children and grandchildren will curse your very existence. This judge is the perfect example. A dumb fuck out of touch person too scared to take any heat and make any tough decisions with consequences for himself because he wants his comfy pension. Look at what you've done to the country given to you. Didn't your dummy parents ever teach you to leave things the way you found them? What the fuck kind of country are you giving to your kids and grandkids? Look at how badly you fucked up. Where is your shame???? |
Mistaken Identity
User ID: 81095737 United States 11/18/2021 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why tf does she want to bring the instructions home? Will she be able to annatate notes on it fro her “lawyer” friends and then Quoting: Weeping Willow79 Bring them back tomorrow and try to convince the others with her notes she took at home? She obviously has visions of grandeur. She will be on CNN and MSNBC 2 hours after the trial ends. She may already have contacted them. Yup, book deal all lined up too. |
Jeff_43
User ID: 81076928 United States 11/18/2021 07:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why tf does she want to bring the instructions home? Will she be able to annatate notes on it fro her “lawyer” friends and then Quoting: Weeping Willow79 Bring them back tomorrow and try to convince the others with her notes she took at home? She obviously has visions of grandeur. She will be on CNN and MSNBC 2 hours after the trial ends. She may already have contacted them. Yup, book deal all lined up too. She started writing the book as soon as she got the call for jury duty. |