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Russian State Media: Ukraine tells EU leaders: Prepare for War. P. 2902 One Year Since the Invasion: A Re-cap

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I like it when the enemy is wasting energy fighting among themselves.
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I like it when the enemy is wasting energy fighting among themselves.
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Why does Girkin even want to work for Prigozhin?

I don't get these guys.


Prigozhin is an asshole.
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...


So Larry...

You're Old and Wise

So what's the end game?

Will Ukraine ever border the Azov Sea again?

Myself I personally Doubt it

So then...

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If war is the outcome of failed diplomacy, and I think it is, there's a problem in this conflict.

I've learned, over the years, that you can only influence people willing to be influenced. You can only negotiate with people who are willing to negotiate.

Putin is nowhere being a rational person. And, like a certain German leader of years gone by, irrationality coupled with absolute power, leads to devastating results.

Putin would be well advised to remember that ultimately the rational German leaders "found" each other and tried to use a bomb to settle the issue.

Putin also needs to realize that his troops, by and large, are fighting to survive in theater and realize, in their lizard brain, their homes are "back there". The Ukrainians are fighting for their county, culture, language, and their homes are the land being bloodied and bombed.

I'm reminded of those films where the "bad guy" thinks he's got everyone intimidated, goes too far and finds himself in the penultimate scene suddenly surrounded by the townsfolk, heretofore bullied and silent, armed with sticks, clubs, and pitchforks.

When the Swiss say "fuck you, that's enough" it's time to revisit both strategy and tactics. Vlad doesn't get that.

I don't enjoy the threads that are pro-Russia. I do, however, read some of them lest I become too overly narrow in my perspective and thinking. I fear echo chambers, not for their internal resonance, but because of all the other sounds that get drowned out and missed. Russian media is an echo chamber by and large, which creates the illusion to the gullible or validation to the jingoist that "all is well".

Until Russia is "bombed" by truth, until Putin is removed from power by natural or manmade causes, all we'll see is the limits of treasure on the waging of war and the effects of uncontrolled psychosis on the landscape of both Ukraine and Russia.
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Well said, thank you.
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Thanks. Like everyone else I have opinions based on what I read, experience, etc. I've done business all over the world and learned that what I guess I'd call "an American viewpoint" is largely American. Every other region/country has their own unique way of looking at things based on their location, culture, and most importantly their history.

Thanks for taking the time.
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Of course, I value the assessments you and others post as they are always very well thought out/critically considered and not just a carelessly thrown out "there" opinion.

There's always an angle I didn't consider/know about and therefore expand my knowledge and/or understanding when you and the others who post offer up an analysis. hf
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I like it when the enemy is wasting energy fighting among themselves.
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


Why does Girkin even want to work for Prigozhin?

I don't get these guys.


Prigozhin is an asshole.
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The benefits therefore outweigh the negatives.

Access to loot/money from the occupied territories?

Family at risk back home if he doesn't comply?

Typical Russian chess game where he's already been told he gets "x" and that Progozhin is on his way to a nasty fall or suspcious fall or errant ordnance?
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I like it when the enemy is wasting energy fighting among themselves.
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


Why does Girkin even want to work for Prigozhin?

I don't get these guys.


Prigozhin is an asshole.
 Quoting: Tiger Blood




The benefits therefore outweigh the negatives.

Access to loot/money from the occupied territories?

Family at risk back home if he doesn't comply?

Typical Russian chess game where he's already been told he gets "x" and that Progozhin is on his way to a nasty fall or suspcious fall or errant ordnance?
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It's a real game of "fuck your buddy" over there.


No honor among thieves.


No honor among Russian bandits.
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There are some good men and women even in Moscow as sick of this shit as I am.


Important to remember...the anti-fascist stuck behind enemy lines...fighting for the freedom of Russia.


I hope one day it is a reality again.


There was a brief chance in the 90's.

Maybe there could be again...

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I would actually rather push for getting Ukraine some Su-27 or MiG-29 fighters from some of our NATO allies in exchange for sending them F-16's in exchange at a future date.


That way Ukraine would have fighters it could use right away.


I think some of our NATO allies still have many in use.
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I am all for getting some missiles at least in the 80-120km range.

Iran is preparing to send 300-700 km missiles to Russia.


It is hardly unfair.
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The Poles have 29 MiG-29 fighters.

The Slovaks retired theirs last year. I am not sure how many they still have.
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We’ve Done Lots for Ukraine, but Winning Will Take Much More

Opinion by David Rothkopf - 55m ago


While the Western commitment to send tanks to Ukraine was a welcome breakthrough, it should not be seen as a panacea. At this crucial juncture in the war between Russia and Ukraine, the outcome of the conflict is far from clear and it will take at least two major shifts in U.S. and NATO policies to capitalize on the successes achieved by Kyiv during the past year.



The first change required is to recognize that it is time to move toward an even more aggressive approach toward providing Ukraine with weapons, ammunition, and other vital supplies going forward. Welcome and essential as they have been, every provision of new weapons systems thus far has been a painstaking negotiation. Every step along the way toward providing more aid has been greeted by critics echoing Russian warnings that upgraded assistance to Ukraine could lead to potentially out-of-control escalation by Moscow. But that escalation has not happened. Russia’s capabilities have been proven to be far less than touted by them or by Western analysts before the war. They can’t beat Ukraine. They are not going to undertake a war against NATO that would lead to certain, swift disaster for Putin & Co.


For three decades the U.S. has been guided by the so-called Powell Doctrine that states that if we enter a war we should do so with overwhelming force. Providing ourselves with narrow margins of advantage is seen as dangerous… because it is.

As the war has progressed this past year, we have come to realize that the only true threat to NATO and Europe would be for Russia to be able to defeat Ukraine and to get away with its land grab and atrocities in that country. That is what we must avoid at all costs. And the only way to do that is to provide Ukraine with more rather than “just enough” assistance.

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Helicopter Used To Transport Putin, Top Officials Crash Lands in Moscow
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A helicopter which is part of a fleet that transports top Russian officials including President Vladimir Putin has reportedly crashed into the ground while landing in Moscow.

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Thanks for the clarification!

There are so many BS stories floating around I wasn't sure hmm
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Helicopter Used To Transport Putin, Top Officials Crash Lands in Moscow
Story by Brendan Cole • 2h ago

A helicopter which is part of a fleet that transports top Russian officials including President Vladimir Putin has reportedly crashed into the ground while landing in Moscow.

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Thanks for the clarification!

There are so many BS stories floating around I wasn't sure hmm
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The photo was incorrect.

Someone got lazy and used a stock photo probably.
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I saw something about multiple explosions in Iran, maybe Israel/Missed drone attacks, maybe an earthquake?

Don't have the brainpower right now to read through all the stupid and Putin puffer comments to figure it out.

What is your guy's thoughts on it?
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I saw something about multiple explosions in Iran, maybe Israel/Missed drone attacks, maybe an earthquake?

Don't have the brainpower right now to read through all the stupid and Putin puffer comments to figure it out.

What is your guy's thoughts on it?
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There were definitely drone attacks on an ammunition facility or defence facility in Isfahan.

Authorities say little damage.


Could have been internal groups, Israel, Azerbaijan or one of the Arab states.


It is unclear.
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