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The Ukrainians are getting 321 tanks.


When will your war end, Vladimir?



You really have no idea, do you?




I believe you will come to your end first unless you miraculously change course.


But I know you won't do that -- can't do that.
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Interesting if true. And really bad, I'd not want to be part of the maintenance crew on this.
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Interesting if true. And really bad, I'd not want to be part of the maintenance crew on this.
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Was it a message, I wonder.


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Vladimir Putin mocked for wearing high heels during university visit

Vladimir Putin has been mocked for wearing shoes with extra-large heels during an official visit.

The Kremlin chief, estimated to be 5ft 7in, sported the super-soles to pose with a group of young people at Moscow State University on Russian Students Day.

Mr Putin, 70, has been spotted wearing such heels for many years but these are thought to be the biggest yet.

One gleeful social media user remarked: ‘Russia’s president – a man so insecure and self-obsessed that he wears high heeled shoes.

‘And in an effort to make himself look even taller, then has smaller female students stand next to him.’


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The Ukrainians are getting 321 tanks.


When will your war end, Vladimir?



You really have no idea, do you?




I believe you will come to your end first unless you miraculously change course.


But I know you won't do that -- can't do that.
 Quoting: Tiger Blood


You'd think that once he sees 321 tanks he'd get the idea he's in a serious no-win situation.
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Russia is making very modest gains now -- AFTER CONSOLIDATING ITS FORCES AFTER THE KHERSON WITHDRAWAL -- WHICH WAS NECESSARY FROM A MILITARY POINT OF VIEW.

Punishing the general that evacuated troops and collaborators successfully after that fiasco -- just more of the usual Russian bullshit.

I wouldn't want to be a Russian general.

I wouldn't want to be Gerasimov soon enough.


Maybe not Shoigu either.


In any event this is not the collapse of the Ukrainian forces that the Putin-puffers make it out to be.



It could well be a tipping point though and this is why support right now (material and moral) is crucial.
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The Ukrainians are getting 321 tanks.


When will your war end, Vladimir?



You really have no idea, do you?




I believe you will come to your end first unless you miraculously change course.


But I know you won't do that -- can't do that.
 Quoting: Tiger Blood


You'd think that once he sees 321 tanks he'd get the idea he's in a serious no-win situation.
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


Well, he's got thousands of tanks.


Mostly useless Soviet era and WWII era scrap metal.


Much of which are probably not maintained.


He does not necessarily have the tankers to man them!


Mobiks can't be taught to operate a tank in two days.




Long-term his position is fucked.



Nine months tops. Then he won't be able to launch volleys of missiles at civilians and substations when he throws a little midget tantrum.

The clock is ticking.


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Russia May Run Out of Missiles in Three Months: Intelligence Report
Story by Zoe Strozewski • 57m ago

Russia may not have enough missiles to continue conducting massive strikes against Ukraine for more than three months, an Estonian intelligence official said in the wake of the newest Russian onslaught against its eastern European neighbor.




Since October 2022, Russia has been carrying out waves of attacks against Ukraine, targeting civilian areas and critical infrastructure like energy facilities. The strikes began after the Kerch Strait Bridge, which connects Russia to the occupied Crimean peninsula, and is also a key supply route for Putin's troops, was hit with an explosion in October. Ukraine did not formally claim responsibility for the explosion, but Putin blamed it on Ukraine, calling it an act of "terrorism," and vowed to respond.

The latest wave of strikes took place on Thursday. Valerii Zaluzhnyi, commander-in-chief of Ukraine's Armed Forces, said in a T_legram post that Russia fired 55 air and sea-based missile from aircraft and ships stationed in the Black Sea. Ukraine was able to destroy 47 of the missiles, including 20 that were "in the region" of the Ukrainian capital of Kyiv, Zaluzhnyi said.

"The goal of the Russians remains the same—psychological pressure on Ukrainians and the destruction of critical infrastructure," he added. "But we cannot be broken!"

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What is your plan after that, Vlad?


The clock is ticking.



How much time you really have is unknown, but it appears to be months rather than years.
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Interesting if true. And really bad, I'd not want to be part of the maintenance crew on this.
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That's a pic from 2019, not recent
I doubt Putin flies around in a rust bucket
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Interesting if true. And really bad, I'd not want to be part of the maintenance crew on this.
 Quoting: 3abzzybee


That's a pic from 2019, not recent
I doubt Putin flies around in a rust bucket
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Putin's spox denied there were casualties.

Did not deny the helicopter crashed.

Even if the picture is old, maybe the helicopter did crash.

I'll reserve judgment on this one yet but it bears looking into in my opinion.
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Picture is indeed old.



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The Ukrainians are getting 321 tanks.


When will your war end, Vladimir?



You really have no idea, do you?




I believe you will come to your end first unless you miraculously change course.


But I know you won't do that -- can't do that.
 Quoting: Tiger Blood


You'd think that once he sees 321 tanks he'd get the idea he's in a serious no-win situation.
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


So Larry...

You're Old and Wise

So what's the end game?

Will Ukraine ever border the Azov Sea again?

Myself I personally Doubt it

So then...

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I don't see good things for Russia beyond a three to nine month window.


They should enjoy their mini victories now.
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I don't see good things for Russia beyond a three to nine month window.


They should enjoy their mini victories now.
 Quoting: Tiger Blood


T-Blood...

Ukrainian Azov Sea border?

The Dnipro is key

like who owns the elbow of the Dnipro when it turns North

Going to come down to manpower

UAF cant match RA forces

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I don't see good things for Russia beyond a three to nine month window.


They should enjoy their mini victories now.
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T-Blood...

Ukrainian Azov Sea border?

The Dnipro is key

like who owns the elbow of the Dnipro when it turns North

Going to come down to manpower

UAF cant match RA forces

putin-thiss
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Presently no.

Wait.
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Actually they can "match".


They need to "beat".
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Actually they can "match".


They need to "beat".
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Actually they can "match".


They need to "beat".
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Cream comes to the top

Curds sinks

I love butter

Who's got the most milk

Training...training...training

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Nine years of experience now.


I gotta give these guys credit.


And despite those nine years the Russians don't seem to be getting smarter at this game.

Just the opposite


There's something wrong with them.
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Russia doesn't have a culture of learning.


Their cup is full.



The Ukrainians appear teachable so far.

That is the difference
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The Ukrainians are getting 321 tanks.


When will your war end, Vladimir?



You really have no idea, do you?




I believe you will come to your end first unless you miraculously change course.


But I know you won't do that -- can't do that.
 Quoting: Tiger Blood


You'd think that once he sees 321 tanks he'd get the idea he's in a serious no-win situation.
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


So Larry...

You're Old and Wise

So what's the end game?

Will Ukraine ever border the Azov Sea again?

Myself I personally Doubt it

So then...

dick
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If war is the outcome of failed diplomacy, and I think it is, there's a problem in this conflict.

I've learned, over the years, that you can only influence people willing to be influenced. You can only negotiate with people who are willing to negotiate.

Putin is nowhere being a rational person. And, like a certain German leader of years gone by, irrationality coupled with absolute power, leads to devastating results.

Putin would be well advised to remember that ultimately the rational German leaders "found" each other and tried to use a bomb to settle the issue.

Putin also needs to realize that his troops, by and large, are fighting to survive in theater and realize, in their lizard brain, their homes are "back there". The Ukrainians are fighting for their county, culture, language, and their homes are the land being bloodied and bombed.

I'm reminded of those films where the "bad guy" thinks he's got everyone intimidated, goes too far and finds himself in the penultimate scene suddenly surrounded by the townsfolk, heretofore bullied and silent, armed with sticks, clubs, and pitchforks.

When the Swiss say "fuck you, that's enough" it's time to revisit both strategy and tactics. Vlad doesn't get that.

I don't enjoy the threads that are pro-Russia. I do, however, read some of them lest I become too overly narrow in my perspective and thinking. I fear echo chambers, not for their internal resonance, but because of all the other sounds that get drowned out and missed. Russian media is an echo chamber by and large, which creates the illusion to the gullible or validation to the jingoist that "all is well".

Until Russia is "bombed" by truth, until Putin is removed from power by natural or manmade causes, all we'll see is the limits of treasure on the waging of war and the effects of uncontrolled psychosis on the landscape of both Ukraine and Russia.
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The Ukrainians are getting 321 tanks.


When will your war end, Vladimir?



You really have no idea, do you?




I believe you will come to your end first unless you miraculously change course.


But I know you won't do that -- can't do that.
 Quoting: Tiger Blood


You'd think that once he sees 321 tanks he'd get the idea he's in a serious no-win situation.
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


So Larry...

You're Old and Wise

So what's the end game?

Will Ukraine ever border the Azov Sea again?

Myself I personally Doubt it

So then...

dick
 Quoting: Hugh G. Reckshon



If war is the outcome of failed diplomacy, and I think it is, there's a problem in this conflict.

I've learned, over the years, that you can only influence people willing to be influenced. You can only negotiate with people who are willing to negotiate.

Putin is nowhere being a rational person. And, like a certain German leader of years gone by, irrationality coupled with absolute power, leads to devastating results.

Putin would be well advised to remember that ultimately the rational German leaders "found" each other and tried to use a bomb to settle the issue.

Putin also needs to realize that his troops, by and large, are fighting to survive in theater and realize, in their lizard brain, their homes are "back there". The Ukrainians are fighting for their county, culture, language, and their homes are the land being bloodied and bombed.

I'm reminded of those films where the "bad guy" thinks he's got everyone intimidated, goes too far and finds himself in the penultimate scene suddenly surrounded by the townsfolk, heretofore bullied and silent, armed with sticks, clubs, and pitchforks.

When the Swiss say "fuck you, that's enough" it's time to revisit both strategy and tactics. Vlad doesn't get that.

I don't enjoy the threads that are pro-Russia. I do, however, read some of them lest I become too overly narrow in my perspective and thinking. I fear echo chambers, not for their internal resonance, but because of all the other sounds that get drowned out and missed. Russian media is an echo chamber by and large, which creates the illusion to the gullible or validation to the jingoist that "all is well".

Until Russia is "bombed" by truth, until Putin is removed from power by natural or manmade causes, all we'll see is the limits of treasure on the waging of war and the effects of uncontrolled psychosis on the landscape of both Ukraine and Russia.
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Well said, thank you.
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You'd think that once he sees 321 tanks he'd get the idea he's in a serious no-win situation.
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


So Larry...

You're Old and Wise

So what's the end game?

Will Ukraine ever border the Azov Sea again?

Myself I personally Doubt it

So then...

dick
 Quoting: Hugh G. Reckshon



If war is the outcome of failed diplomacy, and I think it is, there's a problem in this conflict.

I've learned, over the years, that you can only influence people willing to be influenced. You can only negotiate with people who are willing to negotiate.

Putin is nowhere being a rational person. And, like a certain German leader of years gone by, irrationality coupled with absolute power, leads to devastating results.

Putin would be well advised to remember that ultimately the rational German leaders "found" each other and tried to use a bomb to settle the issue.

Putin also needs to realize that his troops, by and large, are fighting to survive in theater and realize, in their lizard brain, their homes are "back there". The Ukrainians are fighting for their county, culture, language, and their homes are the land being bloodied and bombed.

I'm reminded of those films where the "bad guy" thinks he's got everyone intimidated, goes too far and finds himself in the penultimate scene suddenly surrounded by the townsfolk, heretofore bullied and silent, armed with sticks, clubs, and pitchforks.

When the Swiss say "fuck you, that's enough" it's time to revisit both strategy and tactics. Vlad doesn't get that.

I don't enjoy the threads that are pro-Russia. I do, however, read some of them lest I become too overly narrow in my perspective and thinking. I fear echo chambers, not for their internal resonance, but because of all the other sounds that get drowned out and missed. Russian media is an echo chamber by and large, which creates the illusion to the gullible or validation to the jingoist that "all is well".

Until Russia is "bombed" by truth, until Putin is removed from power by natural or manmade causes, all we'll see is the limits of treasure on the waging of war and the effects of uncontrolled psychosis on the landscape of both Ukraine and Russia.
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


Well said, thank you.
 Quoting: 3abzzybee



Thanks. Like everyone else I have opinions based on what I read, experience, etc. I've done business all over the world and learned that what I guess I'd call "an American viewpoint" is largely American. Every other region/country has their own unique way of looking at things based on their location, culture, and most importantly their history.

Thanks for taking the time.
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Helicopter Used To Transport Putin, Top Officials Crash Lands in Moscow
Story by Brendan Cole • 2h ago

A helicopter which is part of a fleet that transports top Russian officials including President Vladimir Putin has reportedly crashed into the ground while landing in Moscow.

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