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Kyle Rittenhouse Trial - Verdict Watch - Day 1

 
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I'm taking this as a positive sign.

I think they've reached a verdict of not guilty but didn't want to spring it at this time of night. Don't want the crazies running around tonight burnin the city down.
 Quoting: aylarue


Think you may be right. Someone said there were only 2 jurors hung up when they asked for the instruction copies.
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One of the jurors said this? If so that'd be pretty close to a majority, whatever they've decided
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Its been 8 hours now, since the Jury got the case.
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9 hours …
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What could they possibly be hung up on?

Did they watch the same trial I did?

This is insane!!
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Sounds like 2 Karens hanging it up....This needed to end tonight or sequester the damn jury...
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I'm taking this as a positive sign.

I think they've reached a verdict of not guilty but didn't want to spring it at this time of night. Don't want the crazies running around tonight burnin the city down.
 Quoting: aylarue


bump
 Quoting: Vaellene


Yep....someone on the jury laid out the game plan so as not to arrive at verdict 'til morning. Very strategic, actually. Gotta' wonder what manner of fuckery useful tools and ass-hats will put jurors, their families, their communities thru' tonight tho'.
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The rules when you go home: no talking about the case
No accessing certain websites etc etc.

Do judges and lawyers actually believe that jurors follow these rules? LMFAO... nice rules. But no one will follow them.
 Quoting: Clayton Bigsby


They will. The internet knows and never forgets, big brother eyes. And considering the seriousness of the situation, I have confidence they will follow the rules to a T.
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Are you kidding me? You know how easy it would be for me to use a burner phone, a family members phone or a friends phone or computer to browse the web? And are these people wearing wires? I doubt it so they go home to their wife or husbands or roommates they can easily talk about it without getting found out.
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My take after having a bit to think about what we actually know as of now. Consider that the supposed "Leak" by a "US Marshal" is not known to be fact.

We know two things about the jury as of now. They first asked for the first 6 pages of the jury instructions. They then asked for the remaining pages. The first 6 dealt with self defense privilege, the remaining were all of the charges.

The argued through self defense and found there was none. Then they ask for the charges to hash through which ones they find guilty.


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My take after having a bit to think about what we actually know as of now. Consider that the supposed "Leak" by a "US Marshal" is not known to be fact.

We know two things about the jury as of now. They first asked for the first 6 pages of the jury instructions. They then asked for the remaining pages. The first 6 dealt with self defense privilege, the remaining were all of the charges.

The argued through self defense and found there was none. Then they ask for the charges to hash through which ones they find guilty.


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A US Marshall would not leak anything. That circumstance is hard to believe.

But US Marshalls will be needed, obviously. They are top of LE pyramid and draw the toughest LE tasks.
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Review of some of the charges - claims of prosecution and of defense
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Longer deliberations in this case are absolutely a bad sign. They’re looking for a way to find him guilty to protect themselves. Also, 7 women, who are the likeliest subgroup in America to support BLM, on the jury makes it even worse for Kyle.

My hope is the judge hears the verdict and declares the mistrial based on the prosecution bringing to court the fact that Kyle exercised his 5th amendment right.
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It's unusually warm in the Chicago region tonight.... 48... compared to what it has been at night lately.

A morning acquittal gives police time to deploy and also the night time lows (prime looting hours) go back down

Wed 33
Thur 26
Fri 35

Not sure if this is on the jury's mind.
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My take after having a bit to think about what we actually know as of now. Consider that the supposed "Leak" by a "US Marshal" is not known to be fact.

We know two things about the jury as of now. They first asked for the first 6 pages of the jury instructions. They then asked for the remaining pages. The first 6 dealt with self defense privilege, the remaining were all of the charges.

The argued through self defense and found there was none. Then they ask for the charges to hash through which ones they find guilty.


Dunno if I'm right but my gut is rarely wrong.
 Quoting: The Daddylorian


A US Marshall would not leak anything. That circumstance is hard to believe.

But US Marshalls will be needed, obviously. They are top of LE pyramid and draw the toughest LE tasks.
 Quoting: Redcat1


They are probably on their VPNs catching up on this thread.
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Longer deliberations in this case are absolutely a bad sign. They’re looking for a way to find him guilty to protect themselves. Also, 7 women, who are the likeliest subgroup in America to support BLM, on the jury makes it even worse for Kyle.

My hope is the judge hears the verdict and declares the mistrial based on the prosecution bringing to court the fact that Kyle exercised his 5th amendment right.
 Quoting: dmefoc23


He will be Acquitted
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Longer deliberations in this case are absolutely a bad sign. They’re looking for a way to find him guilty to protect themselves. Also, 7 women, who are the likeliest subgroup in America to support BLM, on the jury makes it even worse for Kyle.

My hope is the judge hears the verdict and declares the mistrial based on the prosecution bringing to court the fact that Kyle exercised his 5th amendment right.
 Quoting: dmefoc23


He will be Acquitted
 Quoting: Vaellene


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Longer deliberations in this case are absolutely a bad sign. They’re looking for a way to find him guilty to protect themselves. Also, 7 women, who are the likeliest subgroup in America to support BLM, on the jury makes it even worse for Kyle.

My hope is the judge hears the verdict and declares the mistrial based on the prosecution bringing to court the fact that Kyle exercised his 5th amendment right.
 Quoting: dmefoc23


Uh can the judge even declare a mistrial after hearing the verdict?
Mount that call something the judge makes based upon things other than the verdict results?
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This shit is fucking intense and I hope people finally stand up for what’s right. Kyle wouldn’t of thought twice about defending you or making sure your safe. Be like Kyle.
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DUDE... A SKINHEAD STOOD UP IN DEFENSE OF

BLM STANDING SHOULDER TO SHOULDER WITH A

BLACK MAN ...

AGAINST ...

WHITE MEN..........

WHO IS THE RACIST AND WHY WAS KYLE THERE IN FIRST PLACE.

PRE-MEDITATED SELF DEFENSE MURDER, GUILTY!
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Sooo anything popping off tonight in Kenosha?
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all that the non-sequestered jurors have to to is hear the news in the background. So easy to see clues of whats going on.
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Also, 7 women, who are the likeliest subgroup in America to support BLM, on the jury makes it even worse for Kyle.

 Quoting: dmefoc23


Left wing females overthink self defense. They make it a question of what-ifs leading up to the event. I see this all the time here in Chicago. Someone defends themselves against a carjacking or robbery and the blue haired females call it vigilantism, saying that the victim should have just complied and then nobody would have gotten hurt. This is literally the mindset of the liberal female in the Great Lakes region.


BUT.... Even in a worst case scenario if all seven are leftys and believe this, there's five men remaining and I don't see five random men, left or right, go along with a murder finding.
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Sooo anything popping off tonight in Kenosha?
 Quoting: Weeping Willow79


Nah. I think they have a buy one get one free at Popeye's.
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Longer deliberations in this case are absolutely a bad sign. They’re looking for a way to find him guilty to protect themselves. Also, 7 women, who are the likeliest subgroup in America to support BLM, on the jury makes it even worse for Kyle.

My hope is the judge hears the verdict and declares the mistrial based on the prosecution bringing to court the fact that Kyle exercised his 5th amendment right.
 Quoting: dmefoc23


Uh can the judge even declare a mistrial after hearing the verdict?
Mount that call something the judge makes based upon things other than the verdict results?
 Quoting: Fun Skeptic


yes. He heard the evidence also and knows what the verdict should be by law
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Not sequestering the Jury makes no sense unless the Judge has a sealed verdict and sent them home instead of possibly kicking off the riots tonight.

Otherwise he has to know that the pressure outside would find its way into the deliberations tomorrow.
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Unfortunately, he will probably be found guilty on at least one count. These jurors are targets if they don't. Now, the judge, will he have the balls to set aside the jury verdict and give a directed verdict of not-guilty? I doubt it.

The trial judge will be reversed on appeal because of prosecutorial misconduct. A mistrial should have been declared because of the violation of Rittenhouse's 5th Amendment rights.

Somewhere down the road, he will be retried and found not guilty on whatever charge he was initially convicted. Millions of dollars later and years out of this young persons life will be the result.
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Sooo anything popping off tonight in Kenosha?
 Quoting: Weeping Willow79


Nah. I think they have a buy one get one free at Popeye's.
 Quoting: Oaken Paw


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Sooo anything popping off tonight in Kenosha?
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I've just moved to my new house and it exhausted me to the point of sleeping all day (after sleeping all night last night!). I am glad I didn't miss the verdict happen live, but I'm a little nervous that it hasn't happened yet. Why would it take this long? It seemed pretty obvious to me that he isn't guilty. I'm worried for Kyle now :(

Poor kid must be beside himself.
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Makes sense since the drone was right over head at the right time and they handed over a video at the end of the trial

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The rules when you go home: no talking about the case
No accessing certain websites etc etc.

Do judges and lawyers actually believe that jurors follow these rules? LMFAO... nice rules. But no one will follow them.
 Quoting: Clayton Bigsby


They will. The internet knows and never forgets, big brother eyes. And considering the seriousness of the situation, I have confidence they will follow the rules to a T.
 Quoting: aylarue


Are you kidding me? You know how easy it would be for me to use a burner phone, a family members phone or a friends phone or computer to browse the web? And are these people wearing wires? I doubt it so they go home to their wife or husbands or roommates they can easily talk about it without getting found out.
 Quoting: Clayton Bigsby


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I've just moved to my new house and it exhausted me to the point of sleeping all day (after sleeping all night last night!). I am glad I didn't miss the verdict happen live, but I'm a little nervous that it hasn't happened yet. Why would it take this long? It seemed pretty obvious to me that he isn't guilty. I'm worried for Kyle now :(

Poor kid must be beside himself.
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Yeah I agree... Not looking good for him to found not guilty on all charges.
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Sooo anything popping off tonight in Kenosha?
 Quoting: Weeping Willow79


Nah. I think they have a buy one get one free at Popeye's.
 Quoting: Oaken Paw


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