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BBQ BOY™
(OP) User ID: 80860776 United States 11/15/2021 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Judge said Thursday his Jury Instructions would last about forty five minutes. Quoting: BBQ BOY™ Then he will allow each side two and a half hours for closing arguments. For the State that two and a half hours includes their rebuttal. With breaks and lunch it's going to be late afternoon before the Jury gets the case. So verdict announcement tomorrow morning at the earliest. Hard to say. "Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others." Everyone has to work out their own salvation. Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards. |
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NeroAxia
User ID: 78914227 11/15/2021 11:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, the irony is, when Kyle gets acquitted, the cities will burn and cops will do nothing... Quoting: Oaken Paw which is the reason Kyle is on trial now. SMH Nope. Word on the street is BLM doesn't give a shit about the garbage Rittenhouse swept up off the sidewalks. If there are riots Antifa communists will not have the cover of legitimate protestors. BLM are 'legitimate'? Yes. Yes I do. I believe the protests were justified, the police are out of control on many different levels. This is not east Germany or Stalins Russia. I know this much, the police behaving as they do has me convinced they must be reined in one way or the other. These are the same paramilitary occupational force forcing every single thing the people who complain about the government are bitching about. It's not just black people they are abusing, oppressing and murdering and you are foolish for siding with them. Paramilitary? Hahaha get a grip. 100% of those who don’t resist arrest survive. And let’s be crystal fucking clear. If you’re advocating the abolishment of police, you’re a communist. |
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John Blutarsky
User ID: 78893125 United States 11/15/2021 11:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is not the first time this has happened in this country. We had the same basic conflict in 1968 at the Democratic National convention. Read up on the Chicago Five. Then it as about the Vietnam war, and in retrospect we all now realize the protestors were absolutely right for protesting it. Leave me be and I will let you live. |
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John Blutarsky
User ID: 78893125 United States 11/15/2021 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: John Blutarsky Nope. Word on the street is BLM doesn't give a shit about the garbage Rittenhouse swept up off the sidewalks. If there are riots Antifa communists will not have the cover of legitimate protestors. BLM are 'legitimate'? :wordmeas: Yes. Yes I do. I believe the protests were justified, the police are out of control on many different levels. This is not east Germany or Stalins Russia. I know this much, the police behaving as they do has me convinced they must be reined in one way or the other. These are the same paramilitary occupational force forcing every single thing the people who complain about the government are bitching about. It's not just black people they are abusing, oppressing and murdering and you are foolish for siding with them. Paramilitary? Hahaha get a grip. 100% of those who don’t resist arrest survive. And let’s be crystal fucking clear. If you’re advocating the abolishment of police, you’re a communist. FIRST OFF, I am NOT advocating any abolishment of legitimate law enforcement. IF it is within constitutional bounds. SHOOTING A MAN IN THE BACK OR RECEIVING A PERSON OF THEIR CASH ON THE ROADSIDE AT GUNPOINT, OR BUSTING DOWN A DOOR WITHOUT FIRST PRESENTING A SEARCH WARRANT IS NOT Yes, Paramilitary. They dress and act like soldiers and carry military ordinance. They have rules of engagement much more "liberal" than in a combat zone. If they shoot you all they need do is say they thought you were reaching and the all Freemason Grand Jury gives it a no bill. Last Edited by John Blutarsky on 11/15/2021 11:15 AM Leave me be and I will let you live. |
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User ID: 81131053 Australia 11/15/2021 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, the irony is, when Kyle gets acquitted, the cities will burn and cops will do nothing... Quoting: Oaken Paw which is the reason Kyle is on trial now. SMH Nope. Word on the street is BLM doesn't give a shit about the garbage Rittenhouse swept up off the sidewalks. If there are riots Antifa communists will not have the cover of legitimate protestors. BLM are 'legitimate'? Yes. Yes I do. I believe the protests were justified, the police are out of control on many different levels. This is not east Germany or Stalins Russia. I know this much, the police behaving as they do has me convinced they must be reined in one way or the other. These are the same paramilitary occupational force forcing every single thing the people who complain about the government are bitching about. It's not just black people they are abusing, oppressing and murdering and you are foolish for siding with them. Burning cars, wrecking building , throwing rocks ,threatening and harassment of others is not Legitimate protesting regardless of the causal factors. That is rioting. Warning proceeding to read this may cause anxiety, poster is indemnified if you proceed. I can't give you the ultimate truth ,it's all a matter of perspective and spin. So I empower you with the gift of discernment. SEE THE TRUTH , KNOW THE TRUTH, FEEL THE TRUTH |
John Blutarsky
User ID: 78893125 United States 11/15/2021 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: John Blutarsky Nope. Word on the street is BLM doesn't give a shit about the garbage Rittenhouse swept up off the sidewalks. If there are riots Antifa communists will not have the cover of legitimate protestors. BLM are 'legitimate'? Yes. Yes I do. I believe the protests were justified, the police are out of control on many different levels. This is not east Germany or Stalins Russia. I know this much, the police behaving as they do has me convinced they must be reined in one way or the other. These are the same paramilitary occupational force forcing every single thing the people who complain about the government are bitching about. It's not just black people they are abusing, oppressing and murdering and you are foolish for siding with them. Burning cars, wrecking building , throwing rocks ,threatening and harassment of others is not Legitimate protesting regardless of the causal factors. That is rioting. This is true and I agree, HOWEVER the percentage of the protestors actually engaging in that behavior was extremely low, so you cant say since some of them did this they are all equally guilty of it as a group, that is not how our legal system works It was mostly shit stirring communists using the legitimate protests for cover, AS THEY ALWASY DO. Leave me be and I will let you live. |
Lady Jane Smith
Forum Administrator 11/15/2021 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is the deal with the barrel length issue. The AR was purchased from a gun store, correct? Quoting: Oaken Paw The barrel can't be shorter than 16" and OAL can't be less than 27" or it would be consider a short barrel rifle. That would fall into subsection (c) and therefore it would fit into the criteria of him carrying an weapon a weapon illegally. Wi gun laws are very gray but the judge dismissed it. Who would want a short barrel rifle? Shit accuracy. Barrel length improves accuracy. A hand gun makes more sense than a short barrel rifle. Now, if we are addressing a shotgun, that is a different conversation. I would like an SBR. Those little DD MK18's are amazing. Great for close-quarters and home defense. Turning in a hallway with a shouldered long rifle can be a bitch/less for the assailant to grab onto. I can see that, but a short barrel shotgun would do just as well in that situation. If I have to deal with an intruder, plan to use my blades - probably a pair of cyclone daggers. Quiet and effective. Unless he is fortunate enough for Mr. LJS to get to him first with a .45. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
Lady Jane Smith
Forum Administrator 11/15/2021 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, the irony is, when Kyle gets acquitted, the cities will burn and cops will do nothing... Quoting: Oaken Paw which is the reason Kyle is on trial now. SMH Nope. Word on the street is BLM doesn't give a shit about the garbage Rittenhouse swept up off the sidewalks. If there are riots Antifa communists will not have the cover of legitimate protestors. BLM are 'legitimate'? They are all bastards IMO. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
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Lady Jane Smith
Forum Administrator 11/15/2021 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ThumbsUp The barrel can't be shorter than 16" and OAL can't be less than 27" or it would be consider a short barrel rifle. That would fall into subsection (c) and therefore it would fit into the criteria of him carrying an weapon a weapon illegally. Wi gun laws are very gray but the judge dismissed it. Who would want a short barrel rifle? Shit accuracy. Barrel length improves accuracy. A hand gun makes more sense than a short barrel rifle. Now, if we are addressing a shotgun, that is a different conversation. Not true with every firearm. I have a couple SBR's. Barrel length doesn't affect accuracy as much as you'd think. It mostly affects ballistics, meaning bullet speed, which affects effective distance. Also having an SBR makes the rifle more mobile and easier to maneuver. Yep, a badass backpack gun. I learned something today. That is a good thing. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
BBQ BOY™
(OP) User ID: 80860776 United States 11/15/2021 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. Yes I do. I believe the protests were justified, the police are out of control on many different levels. This is not east Germany or Stalins Russia. I know this much, the police behaving as they do has me convinced they must be reined in one way or the other. These are the same paramilitary occupational force forcing every single thing the people who complain about the government are bitching about. It's not just black people they are abusing, oppressing and murdering and you are foolish for siding with them. Burning cars, wrecking building , throwing rocks ,threatening and harassment of others is not Legitimate protesting regardless of the causal factors. That is rioting. This is true and I agree, HOWEVER the percentage of the protestors actually engaging in that behavior was extremely low, so you cant say since some of them did this they are all equally guilty of it as a group, that is not how our legal system works It was mostly shit stirring communists using the legitimate protests for cover, AS THEY ALWASY DO. Kenosha unrest damages more than 100 buildings, at least 40 destroyed. [link to abc7chicago.com (secure)] Over 50 million dollars of damage. Last Edited by BBQ BOY™ on 11/15/2021 11:22 AM "Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others." Everyone has to work out their own salvation. Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards. |
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User ID: 80389651 United States 11/15/2021 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ThumbsUp The barrel can't be shorter than 16" and OAL can't be less than 27" or it would be consider a short barrel rifle. That would fall into subsection (c) and therefore it would fit into the criteria of him carrying an weapon a weapon illegally. Wi gun laws are very gray but the judge dismissed it. Who would want a short barrel rifle? Shit accuracy. Barrel length improves accuracy. A hand gun makes more sense than a short barrel rifle. Now, if we are addressing a shotgun, that is a different conversation. I would like an SBR. Those little DD MK18's are amazing. Great for close-quarters and home defense. Turning in a hallway with a shouldered long rifle can be a bitch/less for the assailant to grab onto. I can see that, but a short barrel shotgun would do just as well in that situation. If I have to deal with an intruder, plan to use my blades - probably a pair of cyclone daggers. Quiet and effective. Unless he is fortunate enough for Mr. LJS to get to him first with a .45. Everyone has their preference of what weapon to grab in the middle of the night. I don't care which weapon you grab as long as you are willing to fight and defend your self. |
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User ID: 80389651 United States 11/15/2021 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Lady Jane Smith Who would want a short barrel rifle? Shit accuracy. Barrel length improves accuracy. A hand gun makes more sense than a short barrel rifle. Now, if we are addressing a shotgun, that is a different conversation. Not true with every firearm. I have a couple SBR's. Barrel length doesn't affect accuracy as much as you'd think. It mostly affects ballistics, meaning bullet speed, which affects effective distance. Also having an SBR makes the rifle more mobile and easier to maneuver. Yep, a badass backpack gun. I learned something today. That is a good thing. |
NeroAxia
User ID: 78914227 11/15/2021 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: John Blutarsky Yes. Yes I do. I believe the protests were justified, the police are out of control on many different levels. This is not east Germany or Stalins Russia. I know this much, the police behaving as they do has me convinced they must be reined in one way or the other. These are the same paramilitary occupational force forcing every single thing the people who complain about the government are bitching about. It's not just black people they are abusing, oppressing and murdering and you are foolish for siding with them. Burning cars, wrecking building , throwing rocks ,threatening and harassment of others is not Legitimate protesting regardless of the causal factors. That is rioting. This is true and I agree, HOWEVER the percentage of the protestors actually engaging in that behavior was extremely low, so you cant say since some of them did this they are all equally guilty of it as a group, that is not how our legal system works It was mostly shit stirring communists using the legitimate protests for cover, AS THEY ALWASY DO. Kenosha unrest damages more than 100 buildings, at least 40 destroyed. [link to abc7chicago.com (secure)] Over 50 million dollars of damage. These people live is some delusional fantasy land. |
John Blutarsky
User ID: 78893125 United States 11/15/2021 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: John Blutarsky Yes. Yes I do. I believe the protests were justified, the police are out of control on many different levels. This is not east Germany or Stalins Russia. I know this much, the police behaving as they do has me convinced they must be reined in one way or the other. These are the same paramilitary occupational force forcing every single thing the people who complain about the government are bitching about. It's not just black people they are abusing, oppressing and murdering and you are foolish for siding with them. Burning cars, wrecking building , throwing rocks ,threatening and harassment of others is not Legitimate protesting regardless of the causal factors. That is rioting. This is true and I agree, HOWEVER the percentage of the protestors actually engaging in that behavior was extremely low, so you cant say since some of them did this they are all equally guilty of it as a group, that is not how our legal system works It was mostly shit stirring communists using the legitimate protests for cover, AS THEY ALWASY DO. Kenosha unrest damages more than 100 buildings, at least 40 destroyed. [link to abc7chicago.com (secure)] Over 50 million dollars of damage. Yes, and what percentage of the protestors present engaging in destructive behavior was responsible for that damage? Do you know? I saw large groups of people not doing anything at all but just standing there, the vast majority. Remember what I said, the government is now a common enemy of us all. It is no longer our government and sooner or later we will have to resist it or die. This is the same basic conflict we had back in the 60's, oppressive fascism of the government. Leave me be and I will let you live. |
BBQ BOY™
(OP) User ID: 80860776 United States 11/15/2021 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reading the 5th count now. "Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others." Everyone has to work out their own salvation. Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards. |
PINKORCHID88;}~LET'S GO
User ID: 81131053 Australia 11/15/2021 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. Yes I do. I believe the protests were justified, the police are out of control on many different levels. This is not east Germany or Stalins Russia. I know this much, the police behaving as they do has me convinced they must be reined in one way or the other. These are the same paramilitary occupational force forcing every single thing the people who complain about the government are bitching about. It's not just black people they are abusing, oppressing and murdering and you are foolish for siding with them. Burning cars, wrecking building , throwing rocks ,threatening and harassment of others is not Legitimate protesting regardless of the causal factors. That is rioting. This is true and I agree, HOWEVER the percentage of the protestors actually engaging in that behavior was extremely low, so you cant say since some of them did this they are all equally guilty of it as a group, that is not how our legal system works It was mostly shit stirring communists using the legitimate protests for cover, AS THEY ALWASY DO. Occupying a public space for a protest , permitted or not also implys responsibility upon those carrying out said protest to reasonably manage and control that protest. Because they are occupying a public space and due care is expected in the preservation of all person and property in the exercise of protesting. Warning proceeding to read this may cause anxiety, poster is indemnified if you proceed. I can't give you the ultimate truth ,it's all a matter of perspective and spin. So I empower you with the gift of discernment. SEE THE TRUTH , KNOW THE TRUTH, FEEL THE TRUTH |
MrCoolone
User ID: 33106931 United States 11/15/2021 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Lady Jane Smith Who would want a short barrel rifle? Shit accuracy. Barrel length improves accuracy. A hand gun makes more sense than a short barrel rifle. Now, if we are addressing a shotgun, that is a different conversation. I would like an SBR. Those little DD MK18's are amazing. Great for close-quarters and home defense. Turning in a hallway with a shouldered long rifle can be a bitch/less for the assailant to grab onto. I can see that, but a short barrel shotgun would do just as well in that situation. If I have to deal with an intruder, plan to use my blades - probably a pair of cyclone daggers. Quiet and effective. Unless he is fortunate enough for Mr. LJS to get to him first with a .45. Everyone has their preference of what weapon to grab in the middle of the night. I don't care which weapon you grab as long as you are willing to fight and defend your self. It has been proven during WW1, Buc shot in a trench gun, will out perform a 1911 45acp or rifle of its time. The combat shotguns, but use the one between your ears first. |
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Dirck de Noorman
User ID: 81119271 United States 11/15/2021 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is the deal with the barrel length issue. The AR was purchased from a gun store, correct? Quoting: Oaken Paw The barrel can't be shorter than 16" and OAL can't be less than 27" or it would be consider a short barrel rifle. That would fall into subsection (c) and therefore it would fit into the criteria of him carrying an weapon a weapon illegally. Wi gun laws are very gray but the judge dismissed it. Who would want a short barrel rifle? Shit accuracy. Barrel length improves accuracy. A hand gun makes more sense than a short barrel rifle. Now, if we are addressing a shotgun, that is a different conversation. My Mini-30 tactical has a 16.125" barrel and it's accurate as hell. Not my first choice for self-defense, however. I've got a Mossberg 500 "Persuader" short-barreled shotgun with a heavenly spray and a 1911 for all that fun stuff. Good girls go to heaven ~ Heathen women go wherever the fuck they want |
BBQ BOY™
(OP) User ID: 80860776 United States 11/15/2021 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What the hell? He botched one of the instructions? "Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others." Everyone has to work out their own salvation. Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards. |
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ScrumpTheTexan
Forum Administrator 11/15/2021 11:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mind-numbing. I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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