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Kyle Rittenhouse Trial - Jury Instructions and Closing Arguments

 
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The Judge said Thursday his Jury Instructions would last about forty five minutes.

Then he will allow each side two and a half hours for closing arguments.

For the State that two and a half hours includes their rebuttal.

With breaks and lunch it's going to be late afternoon before the Jury gets the case.
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So verdict announcement tomorrow morning at the earliest.
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Hard to say.
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What is the deal with the barrel length issue. The AR was purchased from a gun store, correct?
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It's dismissed.. The prosecution KNEW it was legal.
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Malicious prosecution.
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So, the irony is, when Kyle gets acquitted, the cities will burn and cops will do nothing...

which is the reason Kyle is on trial now.

SMH
 Quoting: Oaken Paw


Nope. Word on the street is BLM doesn't give a shit about the garbage Rittenhouse swept up off the sidewalks. If there are riots Antifa communists will not have the cover of legitimate protestors.
 Quoting: John Blutarsky



BLM are 'legitimate'?

wordmeans
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan


Yes. Yes I do. I believe the protests were justified, the police are out of control on many different levels. This is not east Germany or Stalins Russia.

I know this much, the police behaving as they do has me convinced they must be reined in one way or the other.

These are the same paramilitary occupational force forcing every single thing the people who complain about the government are bitching about. It's not just black people they are abusing, oppressing and murdering and you are foolish for siding with them.
 Quoting: John Blutarsky


Paramilitary? Hahaha get a grip.

100% of those who don’t resist arrest survive.

And let’s be crystal fucking clear. If you’re advocating the abolishment of police, you’re a communist.
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SO, THEY DO A LOTTERY OF THE 18 JURORS AND SEND 6 HOME?

BEEN DONE YET?
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Not yet
 Quoting: BBQ BOY™


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This is not the first time this has happened in this country.

We had the same basic conflict in 1968 at the Democratic National convention. Read up on the Chicago Five.

Then it as about the Vietnam war, and in retrospect we all now realize the protestors were absolutely right for protesting it.
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What is the deal with the barrel length issue. The AR was purchased from a gun store, correct?
 Quoting: Oaken Paw


It's dismissed.. The prosecution KNEW it was legal.
 Quoting: Tangy


Malicious prosecution.
 Quoting: digitaldetective


jay

tgmultifu prosecution
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Nope. Word on the street is BLM doesn't give a shit about the garbage Rittenhouse swept up off the sidewalks. If there are riots Antifa communists will not have the cover of legitimate protestors.
 Quoting: John Blutarsky



BLM are 'legitimate'?

:wordmeas:
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan


Yes. Yes I do. I believe the protests were justified, the police are out of control on many different levels. This is not east Germany or Stalins Russia.

I know this much, the police behaving as they do has me convinced they must be reined in one way or the other.

These are the same paramilitary occupational force forcing every single thing the people who complain about the government are bitching about. It's not just black people they are abusing, oppressing and murdering and you are foolish for siding with them.
 Quoting: John Blutarsky


Paramilitary? Hahaha get a grip.

100% of those who don’t resist arrest survive.

And let’s be crystal fucking clear. If you’re advocating the abolishment of police, you’re a communist.
 Quoting: NeroAxia

FIRST OFF, I am NOT advocating any abolishment of legitimate law enforcement. IF it is within constitutional bounds. SHOOTING A MAN IN THE BACK OR RECEIVING A PERSON OF THEIR CASH ON THE ROADSIDE AT GUNPOINT, OR BUSTING DOWN A DOOR WITHOUT FIRST PRESENTING A SEARCH WARRANT IS NOT
Yes, Paramilitary. They dress and act like soldiers and carry military ordinance. They have rules of engagement much more "liberal" than in a combat zone. If they shoot you all they need do is say they thought you were reaching and the all Freemason Grand Jury gives it a no bill.

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So, the irony is, when Kyle gets acquitted, the cities will burn and cops will do nothing...

which is the reason Kyle is on trial now.

SMH
 Quoting: Oaken Paw


Nope. Word on the street is BLM doesn't give a shit about the garbage Rittenhouse swept up off the sidewalks. If there are riots Antifa communists will not have the cover of legitimate protestors.
 Quoting: John Blutarsky



BLM are 'legitimate'?

wordmeans
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan


Yes. Yes I do. I believe the protests were justified, the police are out of control on many different levels. This is not east Germany or Stalins Russia.

I know this much, the police behaving as they do has me convinced they must be reined in one way or the other.

These are the same paramilitary occupational force forcing every single thing the people who complain about the government are bitching about. It's not just black people they are abusing, oppressing and murdering and you are foolish for siding with them.
 Quoting: John Blutarsky


Burning cars, wrecking building , throwing rocks ,threatening and harassment of others is not Legitimate protesting regardless of the causal factors.
That is rioting.
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Nope. Word on the street is BLM doesn't give a shit about the garbage Rittenhouse swept up off the sidewalks. If there are riots Antifa communists will not have the cover of legitimate protestors.
 Quoting: John Blutarsky



BLM are 'legitimate'?

wordmeans
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan


Yes. Yes I do. I believe the protests were justified, the police are out of control on many different levels. This is not east Germany or Stalins Russia.

I know this much, the police behaving as they do has me convinced they must be reined in one way or the other.

These are the same paramilitary occupational force forcing every single thing the people who complain about the government are bitching about. It's not just black people they are abusing, oppressing and murdering and you are foolish for siding with them.
 Quoting: John Blutarsky


Burning cars, wrecking building , throwing rocks ,threatening and harassment of others is not Legitimate protesting regardless of the causal factors.
That is rioting.
 Quoting: PINKORCHID88;}~LET'S GO


This is true and I agree, HOWEVER the percentage of the protestors actually engaging in that behavior was extremely low, so you cant say since some of them did this they are all equally guilty of it as a group, that is not how our legal system works It was mostly shit stirring communists using the legitimate protests for cover, AS THEY ALWASY DO.
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What is the deal with the barrel length issue. The AR was purchased from a gun store, correct?
 Quoting: Oaken Paw

The barrel can't be shorter than 16" and OAL can't be less than 27" or it would be consider a short barrel rifle. That would fall into subsection (c) and therefore it would fit into the criteria of him carrying an weapon a weapon illegally. Wi gun laws are very gray but the judge dismissed it.
 Quoting: ThumbsUp


Who would want a short barrel rifle?

Shit accuracy. Barrel length improves accuracy.

A hand gun makes more sense than a short barrel rifle.

Now, if we are addressing a shotgun, that is a different conversation.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


I would like an SBR.

Those little DD MK18's are amazing.

Great for close-quarters and home defense.

Turning in a hallway with a shouldered long rifle can be a bitch/less for the assailant to grab onto.
 Quoting: BFD Never Jabbed


I can see that, but a short barrel shotgun would do just as well in that situation.

If I have to deal with an intruder, plan to use my blades - probably a pair of cyclone daggers. Quiet and effective. Unless he is fortunate enough for Mr. LJS to get to him first with a .45.
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So, the irony is, when Kyle gets acquitted, the cities will burn and cops will do nothing...

which is the reason Kyle is on trial now.

SMH
 Quoting: Oaken Paw


Nope. Word on the street is BLM doesn't give a shit about the garbage Rittenhouse swept up off the sidewalks. If there are riots Antifa communists will not have the cover of legitimate protestors.
 Quoting: John Blutarsky



BLM are 'legitimate'?


 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan


They are all bastards IMO.
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SO, THEY DO A LOTTERY OF THE 18 JURORS AND SEND 6 HOME?

BEEN DONE YET?
 Quoting: muckuh


Not yet
 Quoting: BBQ BOY™


THX...THEY SHOULD STILL KEEP A COUPLE THOU?
 Quoting: muckuh


THEY R ALL BLAK BUT JUAN

THEY MAY COME APART IN THERE AN CREATE DEY OWN MISTRIAL IF THEY SEND ALL 6 HOME EARLY!!! SOMETHIN' FUCKY. UH
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The barrel can't be shorter than 16" and OAL can't be less than 27" or it would be consider a short barrel rifle. That would fall into subsection (c) and therefore it would fit into the criteria of him carrying an weapon a weapon illegally. Wi gun laws are very gray but the judge dismissed it.
 Quoting: ThumbsUp


Who would want a short barrel rifle?

Shit accuracy. Barrel length improves accuracy.

A hand gun makes more sense than a short barrel rifle.

Now, if we are addressing a shotgun, that is a different conversation.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith

Not true with every firearm. I have a couple SBR's. Barrel length doesn't affect accuracy as much as you'd think. It mostly affects ballistics, meaning bullet speed, which affects effective distance. Also having an SBR makes the rifle more mobile and easier to maneuver.
 Quoting: ThumbsUp


Yep, a badass backpack gun.
 Quoting: BFD Never Jabbed


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BLM are 'legitimate'?

wordmeans
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan


Yes. Yes I do. I believe the protests were justified, the police are out of control on many different levels. This is not east Germany or Stalins Russia.

I know this much, the police behaving as they do has me convinced they must be reined in one way or the other.

These are the same paramilitary occupational force forcing every single thing the people who complain about the government are bitching about. It's not just black people they are abusing, oppressing and murdering and you are foolish for siding with them.
 Quoting: John Blutarsky


Burning cars, wrecking building , throwing rocks ,threatening and harassment of others is not Legitimate protesting regardless of the causal factors.
That is rioting.
 Quoting: PINKORCHID88;}~LET'S GO


This is true and I agree, HOWEVER the percentage of the protestors actually engaging in that behavior was extremely low, so you cant say since some of them did this they are all equally guilty of it as a group, that is not how our legal system works It was mostly shit stirring communists using the legitimate protests for cover, AS THEY ALWASY DO.
 Quoting: John Blutarsky


Kenosha unrest damages more than 100 buildings, at least 40 destroyed.

[link to abc7chicago.com (secure)]

Over 50 million dollars of damage.

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The barrel can't be shorter than 16" and OAL can't be less than 27" or it would be consider a short barrel rifle. That would fall into subsection (c) and therefore it would fit into the criteria of him carrying an weapon a weapon illegally. Wi gun laws are very gray but the judge dismissed it.
 Quoting: ThumbsUp


Who would want a short barrel rifle?

Shit accuracy. Barrel length improves accuracy.

A hand gun makes more sense than a short barrel rifle.

Now, if we are addressing a shotgun, that is a different conversation.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


I would like an SBR.

Those little DD MK18's are amazing.

Great for close-quarters and home defense.

Turning in a hallway with a shouldered long rifle can be a bitch/less for the assailant to grab onto.
 Quoting: BFD Never Jabbed


I can see that, but a short barrel shotgun would do just as well in that situation.

If I have to deal with an intruder, plan to use my blades - probably a pair of cyclone daggers. Quiet and effective. Unless he is fortunate enough for Mr. LJS to get to him first with a .45.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith

Everyone has their preference of what weapon to grab in the middle of the night. I don't care which weapon you grab as long as you are willing to fight and defend your self.
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Who would want a short barrel rifle?

Shit accuracy. Barrel length improves accuracy.

A hand gun makes more sense than a short barrel rifle.

Now, if we are addressing a shotgun, that is a different conversation.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith

Not true with every firearm. I have a couple SBR's. Barrel length doesn't affect accuracy as much as you'd think. It mostly affects ballistics, meaning bullet speed, which affects effective distance. Also having an SBR makes the rifle more mobile and easier to maneuver.
 Quoting: ThumbsUp


Yep, a badass backpack gun.
 Quoting: BFD Never Jabbed


I learned something today.

That is a good thing.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith

hf
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Yes. Yes I do. I believe the protests were justified, the police are out of control on many different levels. This is not east Germany or Stalins Russia.

I know this much, the police behaving as they do has me convinced they must be reined in one way or the other.

These are the same paramilitary occupational force forcing every single thing the people who complain about the government are bitching about. It's not just black people they are abusing, oppressing and murdering and you are foolish for siding with them.
 Quoting: John Blutarsky


Burning cars, wrecking building , throwing rocks ,threatening and harassment of others is not Legitimate protesting regardless of the causal factors.
That is rioting.
 Quoting: PINKORCHID88;}~LET'S GO


This is true and I agree, HOWEVER the percentage of the protestors actually engaging in that behavior was extremely low, so you cant say since some of them did this they are all equally guilty of it as a group, that is not how our legal system works It was mostly shit stirring communists using the legitimate protests for cover, AS THEY ALWASY DO.
 Quoting: John Blutarsky


Kenosha unrest damages more than 100 buildings, at least 40 destroyed.

[link to abc7chicago.com (secure)]

Over 50 million dollars of damage.
 Quoting: BBQ BOY™


These people live is some delusional fantasy land.
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Yes. Yes I do. I believe the protests were justified, the police are out of control on many different levels. This is not east Germany or Stalins Russia.

I know this much, the police behaving as they do has me convinced they must be reined in one way or the other.

These are the same paramilitary occupational force forcing every single thing the people who complain about the government are bitching about. It's not just black people they are abusing, oppressing and murdering and you are foolish for siding with them.
 Quoting: John Blutarsky


Burning cars, wrecking building , throwing rocks ,threatening and harassment of others is not Legitimate protesting regardless of the causal factors.
That is rioting.
 Quoting: PINKORCHID88;}~LET'S GO


This is true and I agree, HOWEVER the percentage of the protestors actually engaging in that behavior was extremely low, so you cant say since some of them did this they are all equally guilty of it as a group, that is not how our legal system works It was mostly shit stirring communists using the legitimate protests for cover, AS THEY ALWASY DO.
 Quoting: John Blutarsky


Kenosha unrest damages more than 100 buildings, at least 40 destroyed.

[link to abc7chicago.com (secure)]

Over 50 million dollars of damage.
 Quoting: BBQ BOY™


Yes, and what percentage of the protestors present engaging in destructive behavior was responsible for that damage? Do you know? I saw large groups of people not doing anything at all but just standing there, the vast majority.

Remember what I said, the government is now a common enemy of us all. It is no longer our government and sooner or later we will have to resist it or die.

This is the same basic conflict we had back in the 60's, oppressive fascism of the government.
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Reading the 5th count now.
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BLM are 'legitimate'?

wordmeans
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan


Yes. Yes I do. I believe the protests were justified, the police are out of control on many different levels. This is not east Germany or Stalins Russia.

I know this much, the police behaving as they do has me convinced they must be reined in one way or the other.

These are the same paramilitary occupational force forcing every single thing the people who complain about the government are bitching about. It's not just black people they are abusing, oppressing and murdering and you are foolish for siding with them.
 Quoting: John Blutarsky


Burning cars, wrecking building , throwing rocks ,threatening and harassment of others is not Legitimate protesting regardless of the causal factors.
That is rioting.
 Quoting: PINKORCHID88;}~LET'S GO


This is true and I agree, HOWEVER the percentage of the protestors actually engaging in that behavior was extremely low, so you cant say since some of them did this they are all equally guilty of it as a group, that is not how our legal system works It was mostly shit stirring communists using the legitimate protests for cover, AS THEY ALWASY DO.
 Quoting: John Blutarsky


Occupying a public space for a protest , permitted or not also implys responsibility upon those carrying out said protest to reasonably manage and control that protest. Because they are occupying a public space and due care is expected in the preservation of all person and property in the exercise of protesting.
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Who would want a short barrel rifle?

Shit accuracy. Barrel length improves accuracy.

A hand gun makes more sense than a short barrel rifle.

Now, if we are addressing a shotgun, that is a different conversation.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


I would like an SBR.

Those little DD MK18's are amazing.

Great for close-quarters and home defense.

Turning in a hallway with a shouldered long rifle can be a bitch/less for the assailant to grab onto.
 Quoting: BFD Never Jabbed


I can see that, but a short barrel shotgun would do just as well in that situation.

If I have to deal with an intruder, plan to use my blades - probably a pair of cyclone daggers. Quiet and effective. Unless he is fortunate enough for Mr. LJS to get to him first with a .45.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith

Everyone has their preference of what weapon to grab in the middle of the night. I don't care which weapon you grab as long as you are willing to fight and defend your self.
 Quoting: ThumbsUp


It has been proven during WW1, Buc shot in a trench gun, will out perform a 1911 45acp or rifle of its time. The combat shotguns, but use the one between your ears first.
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Its gotten to the ridiculous now, on the charges now, FREE KYLE !
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The jury instructions are cruel and unusual punishment.
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What is the deal with the barrel length issue. The AR was purchased from a gun store, correct?
 Quoting: Oaken Paw

The barrel can't be shorter than 16" and OAL can't be less than 27" or it would be consider a short barrel rifle. That would fall into subsection (c) and therefore it would fit into the criteria of him carrying an weapon a weapon illegally. Wi gun laws are very gray but the judge dismissed it.
 Quoting: ThumbsUp


Who would want a short barrel rifle?

Shit accuracy. Barrel length improves accuracy.

A hand gun makes more sense than a short barrel rifle.

Now, if we are addressing a shotgun, that is a different conversation.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


My Mini-30 tactical has a 16.125" barrel and it's accurate as hell.

Not my first choice for self-defense, however.

I've got a Mossberg 500 "Persuader" short-barreled shotgun with a heavenly spray and a 1911 for all that fun stuff.
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What the hell? He botched one of the instructions?
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What the hell? He botched one of the instructions?
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I'm trying to figure out what he said that he needed to stop. He's explaining it now.
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The jury instructions are cruel and unusual punishment.
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EXACTLY!!!! Make it clear Judge.
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He's really having a hard time with this right now isn't he?





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