Kyle Rittenhouse Trial - Jury Instructions and Closing Arguments | |
John Blutarsky
User ID: 78893125 United States 11/15/2021 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is the deal with the barrel length issue. The AR was purchased from a gun store, correct? Quoting: Oaken Paw Because of Kyle's age COUNT 6: POSSESSION OF A DANGEROUS WEAPON BY A PERSON UNDER 18 That charge is unconstitutional There is nothing in the constitution that says minors have no constitutional rights to my knowledge. Leave me be and I will let you live. |
BBQ BOY™
(OP) User ID: 80860776 United States 11/15/2021 10:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Something a little different for you all today. This is a Live stream of the Kenosha Police Dept. Scanner traffic. Quoting: BBQ BOY™ Kenosha Scanner Live Stream It does not allow playback here so you will have to watch on YT [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Good morning - Just getting on and need to catch up with this mornings proceedings. This link looks interesting Pete. The judge took some heat this weekend. The parasites are going to go nuts if Kyle gets off. Given the how the fix is in against truth, justice an The American Way these days it is difficult to be hopeful for Kyle, but I am. Morning. "Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others." Everyone has to work out their own salvation. Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards. |
Tangy
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John Blutarsky
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BBQ BOY™
(OP) User ID: 80860776 United States 11/15/2021 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Calling The Jury in now. "Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others." Everyone has to work out their own salvation. Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards. |
FeedYourHead
User ID: 77416429 United States 11/15/2021 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Be ready for anything from these two.... Ask Alice when she's 10ft tall This is a battle for the future of civilization. If free speech is lost even in America, tyranny is all that lies ahead. Elon Musk |
Oaken Paw
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Don Draper from Nantucket
User ID: 80692948 United States 11/15/2021 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm still not putting it past Dumb and Dumber to pull some stunt in closing arguments in order to get their mistrial....they know they have lost. Quoting: FeedYourHead Be ready for anything from these two.... Yeah I can see fatty doing just that by intentionally stoking the jury to speculate on something! PLATA BITCHEZZZZZZ UPGRADE UNAVAILABLE The Rolling Stones said it best... "What's confusing you is the nature of my game" |
Zero Chaos
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Tangy
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John Blutarsky
User ID: 78893125 United States 11/15/2021 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm still not putting it past Dumb and Dumber to pull some stunt in closing arguments in order to get their mistrial....they know they have lost. Quoting: FeedYourHead Be ready for anything from these two.... It is practically impossible at that point, since the prosecutor can say anything he wants to in closing arguments basically. He's NOT sworn in and he is NOT under oath and can lie all he wants, and he will. Typically what they will do is just tell the jury what they want them to believe happened and hope it sways them. Trust me on this one. Leave me be and I will let you live. |
John Blutarsky
User ID: 78893125 United States 11/15/2021 10:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, the irony is, when Kyle gets acquitted, the cities will burn and cops will do nothing... Quoting: Oaken Paw which is the reason Kyle is on trial now. SMH Nope. Word on the street is BLM doesn't give a shit about the garbage Rittenhouse swept up off the sidewalks. If there are riots Antifa communists will not have the cover of legitimate protestors. Leave me be and I will let you live. |
Lady Jane Smith
Forum Administrator 11/15/2021 10:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is the deal with the barrel length issue. The AR was purchased from a gun store, correct? Quoting: Oaken Paw The barrel can't be shorter than 16" and OAL can't be less than 27" or it would be consider a short barrel rifle. That would fall into subsection (c) and therefore it would fit into the criteria of him carrying an weapon a weapon illegally. Wi gun laws are very gray but the judge dismissed it. Who would want a short barrel rifle? Shit accuracy. Barrel length improves accuracy. A hand gun makes more sense than a short barrel rifle. Now, if we are addressing a shotgun, that is a different conversation. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
BBQ BOY™
(OP) User ID: 80860776 United States 11/15/2021 10:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | COUNT 1: FIRST-DEGREE RECKLESS HOMICIDE, USE OF A DANGEROUS WEAPON COUNT 2: FIRST-DEGREE RECKLESSLY ENDANGERING SAFETY, USE OF A DANGEROUS WEAPON COUNT 3: FIRST-DEGREE RECKLESSLY ENDANGERING SAFETY, USE OF A DANGEROUS WEAPON COUNT 4: FIRST-DEGREE INTENTIONAL HOMICIDE, USE OF A DANGEROUS WEAPON COUNT 5: ATTEMPTED FIRST-DEGREE INTENTIONAL HOMICIDE, USE OF A DANGEROUS WEAPON COUNT 7: FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH AN EMERGENCY ORDER FROM STATE OR LOCAL GOVERNMENT Here are the Charges again. "Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others." Everyone has to work out their own salvation. Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards. |
Tangy
User ID: 23189531 United States 11/15/2021 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | COUNT 1: FIRST-DEGREE RECKLESS HOMICIDE, USE OF A DANGEROUS WEAPON COUNT 2: FIRST-DEGREE RECKLESSLY ENDANGERING SAFETY, USE OF A DANGEROUS WEAPON COUNT 3: FIRST-DEGREE RECKLESSLY ENDANGERING SAFETY, USE OF A DANGEROUS WEAPON COUNT 4: FIRST-DEGREE INTENTIONAL HOMICIDE, USE OF A DANGEROUS WEAPON COUNT 5: ATTEMPTED FIRST-DEGREE INTENTIONAL HOMICIDE, USE OF A DANGEROUS WEAPON COUNT 7: FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH AN EMERGENCY ORDER FROM STATE OR LOCAL GOVERNMENT Here are the Charges again. 7 is dismissed. |
Lady Jane Smith
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BBQ BOY™
(OP) User ID: 80860776 United States 11/15/2021 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | COUNT 1: FIRST-DEGREE RECKLESS HOMICIDE, USE OF A DANGEROUS WEAPON COUNT 2: FIRST-DEGREE RECKLESSLY ENDANGERING SAFETY, USE OF A DANGEROUS WEAPON COUNT 3: FIRST-DEGREE RECKLESSLY ENDANGERING SAFETY, USE OF A DANGEROUS WEAPON COUNT 4: FIRST-DEGREE INTENTIONAL HOMICIDE, USE OF A DANGEROUS WEAPON COUNT 5: ATTEMPTED FIRST-DEGREE INTENTIONAL HOMICIDE, USE OF A DANGEROUS WEAPON Here are the Charges again. 7 is dismissed. Ok I missed that Last Edited by BBQ BOY™ on 11/15/2021 10:58 AM "Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others." Everyone has to work out their own salvation. Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards. |
Oaken Paw
It's the wood that makes it good User ID: 75276837 United States 11/15/2021 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: BBQ BOY™ COUNT 1: FIRST-DEGREE RECKLESS HOMICIDE, USE OF A DANGEROUS WEAPON COUNT 2: FIRST-DEGREE RECKLESSLY ENDANGERING SAFETY, USE OF A DANGEROUS WEAPON COUNT 3: FIRST-DEGREE RECKLESSLY ENDANGERING SAFETY, USE OF A DANGEROUS WEAPON COUNT 4: FIRST-DEGREE INTENTIONAL HOMICIDE, USE OF A DANGEROUS WEAPON COUNT 5: ATTEMPTED FIRST-DEGREE INTENTIONAL HOMICIDE, USE OF A DANGEROUS WEAPON Here are the Charges again. 7 is dismissed. Ok I missed that Well, in that case, he will be acquitted. Everything has got to be a THING today |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77589412 United States 11/15/2021 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is the deal with the barrel length issue. The AR was purchased from a gun store, correct? Quoting: Oaken Paw The barrel can't be shorter than 16" and OAL can't be less than 27" or it would be consider a short barrel rifle. That would fall into subsection (c) and therefore it would fit into the criteria of him carrying an weapon a weapon illegally. Wi gun laws are very gray but the judge dismissed it. Who would want a short barrel rifle? Shit accuracy. Barrel length improves accuracy. A hand gun makes more sense than a short barrel rifle. Now, if we are addressing a shotgun, that is a different conversation. I would like an SBR. Those little DD MK18's are amazing. Great for close-quarters and home defense. Turning in a hallway with a shouldered long rifle can be a bitch/less for the assailant to grab onto. |
ScrumpTheTexan
Forum Administrator 11/15/2021 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, the irony is, when Kyle gets acquitted, the cities will burn and cops will do nothing... Quoting: Oaken Paw which is the reason Kyle is on trial now. SMH Nope. Word on the street is BLM doesn't give a shit about the garbage Rittenhouse swept up off the sidewalks. If there are riots Antifa communists will not have the cover of legitimate protestors. BLM are 'legitimate'? I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Tangy
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John Blutarsky
User ID: 78893125 United States 11/15/2021 11:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is the deal with the barrel length issue. The AR was purchased from a gun store, correct? Quoting: Oaken Paw The barrel can't be shorter than 16" and OAL can't be less than 27" or it would be consider a short barrel rifle. That would fall into subsection (c) and therefore it would fit into the criteria of him carrying an weapon a weapon illegally. Wi gun laws are very gray but the judge dismissed it. Who would want a short barrel rifle? Shit accuracy. Barrel length improves accuracy. A hand gun makes more sense than a short barrel rifle. Now, if we are addressing a shotgun, that is a different conversation. It is useful in enclosed spaces, and can penetrate body armor.. At a riot you'd want a carbine, M-4 type variant of the AR-15. Leave me be and I will let you live. |
ThumbsUp
User ID: 80389651 United States 11/15/2021 11:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is the deal with the barrel length issue. The AR was purchased from a gun store, correct? Quoting: Oaken Paw The barrel can't be shorter than 16" and OAL can't be less than 27" or it would be consider a short barrel rifle. That would fall into subsection (c) and therefore it would fit into the criteria of him carrying an weapon a weapon illegally. Wi gun laws are very gray but the judge dismissed it. Who would want a short barrel rifle? Shit accuracy. Barrel length improves accuracy. A hand gun makes more sense than a short barrel rifle. Now, if we are addressing a shotgun, that is a different conversation. Not true with every firearm. I have a couple SBR's. Barrel length doesn't affect accuracy as much as you'd think. It mostly affects ballistics, meaning bullet speed, which affects effective distance. Also having an SBR makes the rifle more mobile and easier to maneuver. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77589412 United States 11/15/2021 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is the deal with the barrel length issue. The AR was purchased from a gun store, correct? Quoting: Oaken Paw The barrel can't be shorter than 16" and OAL can't be less than 27" or it would be consider a short barrel rifle. That would fall into subsection (c) and therefore it would fit into the criteria of him carrying an weapon a weapon illegally. Wi gun laws are very gray but the judge dismissed it. Who would want a short barrel rifle? Shit accuracy. Barrel length improves accuracy. A hand gun makes more sense than a short barrel rifle. Now, if we are addressing a shotgun, that is a different conversation. Not true with every firearm. I have a couple SBR's. Barrel length doesn't affect accuracy as much as you'd think. It mostly affects ballistics, meaning bullet speed, which affects effective distance. Also having an SBR makes the rifle more mobile and easier to maneuver. Yep, a badass backpack gun. |
muckuh
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John Blutarsky
User ID: 78893125 United States 11/15/2021 11:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, the irony is, when Kyle gets acquitted, the cities will burn and cops will do nothing... Quoting: Oaken Paw which is the reason Kyle is on trial now. SMH Nope. Word on the street is BLM doesn't give a shit about the garbage Rittenhouse swept up off the sidewalks. If there are riots Antifa communists will not have the cover of legitimate protestors. BLM are 'legitimate'? Yes. Yes I do. I believe the protests were justified, the police are out of control on many different levels. This is not east Germany or Stalins Russia. I know this much, the police behaving as they do has me convinced they must be reined in one way or the other. These are the same paramilitary occupational force forcing every single thing the people who complain about the government are bitching about. It's not just black people they are abusing, oppressing and murdering and you are foolish for siding with them. Leave me be and I will let you live. |
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User ID: 80389651 United States 11/15/2021 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ThumbsUp The barrel can't be shorter than 16" and OAL can't be less than 27" or it would be consider a short barrel rifle. That would fall into subsection (c) and therefore it would fit into the criteria of him carrying an weapon a weapon illegally. Wi gun laws are very gray but the judge dismissed it. Who would want a short barrel rifle? Shit accuracy. Barrel length improves accuracy. A hand gun makes more sense than a short barrel rifle. Now, if we are addressing a shotgun, that is a different conversation. Not true with every firearm. I have a couple SBR's. Barrel length doesn't affect accuracy as much as you'd think. It mostly affects ballistics, meaning bullet speed, which affects effective distance. Also having an SBR makes the rifle more mobile and easier to maneuver. Yep, a badass backpack gun. Exactly. Except my go to backpack/truck gun is technically a pistol. With a brace and a Law folder, I can legally conceal it and carry it where ever lawful just like a handgun. |
BBQ BOY™
(OP) User ID: 80860776 United States 11/15/2021 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not yet "Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others." Everyone has to work out their own salvation. Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards. |
Fun Skeptic
User ID: 80056545 United States 11/15/2021 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Judge said Thursday his Jury Instructions would last about forty five minutes. Quoting: BBQ BOY™ Then he will allow each side two and a half hours for closing arguments. For the State that two and a half hours includes their rebuttal. With breaks and lunch it's going to be late afternoon before the Jury gets the case. So verdict announcement tomorrow morning at the earliest. “Oh, What a feeling! “ -Toyota |
Tangy
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