Well, my employer just hit me with the Vaxxx requirement…NEED YOUR INPUT | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4723723 United States 10/25/2021 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | not true, its a smaller amount of people who arent getting vaccinated, up here 70% of people as of now are vaccinated. and my states populatiion is 7.1 million so if we are all supposed to die because of the vaccine that would mean roughly 4 million people in my state should be dead now, wellll im pretty sure id notice that many people missing, i mean theyd be burying them everywhere they could find open space, not to mention way less traffic on the roads. This post will not age well. Enjoy your lifelong tether to boosters, and AZT. |
Lost Pottawatomi
User ID: 72619303 United States 10/25/2021 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Be sure no one knows your job , they fire you ,they have to close down ...... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81047705 I designed 30 production machines , the greedy bastards wanted the machines not me .... Well I had the schematics in my hand when notified ! To their bad luck I was near a working shredder, I tripped and the papers went in ....... The dam thing ate the full 1,000 pages under a tenth of a second! They asked me, can you make copys from memory ? I said no ! You just fired me ! Fuck you ! they lost $5.8 million usD and went under ! Never felt better ! They fired over 7 engineers trying to decode the machines and failing miserably. Thank you for excercising your right to intellectual autonomy. They broke the contract and have no rights on your designs. I laughed when I got canned for not being strong enough to work after the attempted murder. Tried for a year. I was tired of repairing sabotage and technology being beaten up and being expected to magically make the presses run again at 2AM on weekends. Only wish I could see the numbers showing the increased downtime and lost production. Thanks for going Galt. Nothing shall be so certain as to permit confusion. |
Weisshaupt
User ID: 73936331 United States 10/25/2021 10:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey all, well the not-unexpected e-mail came today. We have essentially a month to get jabbed. They can go fuck themselves on that. Not doing it and will accept a firing if I have to. Not that I want to, but I will go down swinging. Quoting: Larphillips That said, there have been some EXCELLENT letters, forms, and strategies posted here in the past. Any site search is just going to be far too broad, so if you would be so kind, can you all please post up on this thread with some of the good stuff? I’ll go any route I need to. Now, I’m quite certain I had it early last year, but it was not officially diagnosed. I would consider the ‘religious exemption’ option, Catholic-flavored if possible. Any approach will be considered. I will NOT quit, I will NOT comply, and I will NOT volunteer anything to them. My deepest appreciation. 1) Claim this is a material change to your employment and you wish to negotiate the terms 2) get them to tell you where the FDA "approved" vaccine comniraty can be procured ( it can't be) 3) make them provide, in writing , recognition that legally they cannot compel you to take an experimental treatment 4) make them provide, in writing , recognition that you have a legal right to decline a vaccine on medical and religious bounds and ask them to define what exactly they would require for such an exception to be granted 5) ask them to accept, in writing, all liability for any injury or death that may result from you taking the vaccine, since it is a new requirement they are imposing 6) Ask them if they are taking responsibility for your health in this area if they will take responsibility in all areas - including informing you when co-workers have STDS and paying the full cost of any medical proceedure yoou may need 7) ask them what Doctor they have on staff that they have assumed the right to prescribe medication for you. 8) ask that if they will not agree to the foregoing terms that they provide, in writing , the reasons your dismissal Do not, refuse to take the vaccine out right. This sets up an insubordination defense for them. Do not quit. Make them fire you. Require written confirmation and the reason for your being fired or dismissed. Make them follow their own rules.. larger companies often require an "improvement plan" with quarterly checkups. You forgot to go to the appointment. Your car broke down. Feign epic levels of incompetence. Make them document it then sue them when they finally fire you |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80269194 United States 10/25/2021 10:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's refresh everyone's memory. The first year of COVID-19 had 600,000 deaths in the United States. We have 350,000,000 citizens in the USA. Let's do the math 600,000 ÷ 350,000,000 = a death rate of .0017142857 that means 1 out every 17142 people died from COVID-19. Remember these numbers were also inflated do to a $49,000 federal payout to the hospitals. So why would anyone take a drug that is not a vaccine,not tested, and being forced upon it's citizens.If it sounds Nefarious! It's because it is! The math is the science. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74873148 United States 10/25/2021 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i got vaccinated in late december of last year, im still here, not sick or dying. how do explain this? I really don't know how you vaxxed manage to put one foot in front of the other every day. I guess the lie is that good. That shit is debilitating. sorry but i cant agree with you, the hospital i work at we were vaccinated in late december, about 80 percent got vaccinated, i can assure you no one died, no long term effects either, im sorry i know you want to believe its a bad thing, but it really isnt and numbers dont lie, so how do you explain that away? How do you explain my body, my choice? End of argument. |
jimmyrigger
User ID: 15572214 United States 10/25/2021 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is your answer OP. The actual vaccine has killed thousands of people and maimed thousands or millions more. ( can't get reliable info from the fake media ). Make them fire you, then sue them later in a class action lawsuit. The rest of us will stop buying their shit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79319753 United States 10/25/2021 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I work at a regional dispatch center (911, dispatch; PD, Fire, EMS, administrative calls, specialty dispatch; K9, bomb squad, WSAR, etc,etc.), we have had the mandate for a few weeks now. New hires start at a very low salary (I live in one of the most expensive counties in the country) and the pay does not even cover living expenses. I’m much higher tier. Longer story short, I am being tested weekly as long I am on shift. If I’m not working, I’m not coming in my day off to get tested (they won’t pay us for coming in)…we are about to lose 2 people who refuse even testing, and we’ve had another 3 people put in their 2 weeks b/c they found higher paying jobs, which is really easy to do lately. Also, they gave part timers (per diems) a MASSIVE raise ($4-$7 p/h) and they barely show up for their chosen shifts. Meanwhile, full timers haven’t had a contract in 2 years and we have received no raise. There are now some part timers making much more $$$ than full timers that have been there for years. I plan on getting fired in the next few months, I don’t give a damn. I make more money in my personal investments than I do at work at this point. Not to mention there are plenty of jobs available because people don’t want to work. They are hiring “urgently” everywhere and paying sign on bonuses. Principles are not principles if you don’t hold true to them when it becomes inconvenient. This is a hill I am willing to die on. FJB. Let’s go Brandon! |
LameDame
User ID: 81042161 United States 10/25/2021 11:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am so sorry. I can't believe this is America. Earlier today I was reading a transcript of a testimony given by Dr. Vanessa Schmidt Kuerger that she gave to the German government. I forgot which department. Her doctorate is in cellular and molecular biology. The shot is a crap shot. There are so many variables. It's like playing Russian roulette. If you are lucky, you will get a blank, if unlucky, you'll get the kill shot. I do pray that if you take it, you will get lucky. |
Tiger One
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 81009399 United Kingdom 10/26/2021 12:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey all, well the not-unexpected e-mail came today. We have essentially a month to get jabbed. They can go fuck themselves on that. Not doing it and will accept a firing if I have to. Not that I want to, but I will go down swinging. Quoting: Larphillips That said, there have been some EXCELLENT letters, forms, and strategies posted here in the past. Any site search is just going to be far too broad, so if you would be so kind, can you all please post up on this thread with some of the good stuff? I’ll go any route I need to. Now, I’m quite certain I had it early last year, but it was not officially diagnosed. I would consider the ‘religious exemption’ option, Catholic-flavored if possible. Any approach will be considered. I will NOT quit, I will NOT comply, and I will NOT volunteer anything to them. My deepest appreciation. 1) Claim this is a material change to your employment and you wish to negotiate the terms 2) get them to tell you where the FDA "approved" vaccine comniraty can be procured ( it can't be) 3) make them provide, in writing , recognition that legally they cannot compel you to take an experimental treatment 4) make them provide, in writing , recognition that you have a legal right to decline a vaccine on medical and religious bounds and ask them to define what exactly they would require for such an exception to be granted 5) ask them to accept, in writing, all liability for any injury or death that may result from you taking the vaccine, since it is a new requirement they are imposing 6) Ask them if they are taking responsibility for your health in this area if they will take responsibility in all areas - including informing you when co-workers have STDS and paying the full cost of any medical proceedure yoou may need 7) ask them what Doctor they have on staff that they have assumed the right to prescribe medication for you. 8) ask that if they will not agree to the foregoing terms that they provide, in writing , the reasons your dismissal Do not, refuse to take the vaccine out right. This sets up an insubordination defense for them. Do not quit. Make them fire you. Require written confirmation and the reason for your being fired or dismissed. Make them follow their own rules.. larger companies often require an "improvement plan" with quarterly checkups. You forgot to go to the appointment. Your car broke down. Feign epic levels of incompetence. Make them document it then sue them when they finally fire you great advice, play the grey man and stall them, tie them in knots and as you say don't flatly decline. Let them fuckers do the leg work. Mandates are not law and International law trumps any mandates. (for now) Plus at the end of the day, if you cause so much of an issue they might offer you 6 months paid to fuck off. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81009399 United Kingdom 10/26/2021 01:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's refresh everyone's memory. The first year of COVID-19 had 600,000 deaths in the United States. We have 350,000,000 citizens in the USA. Let's do the math 600,000 ÷ 350,000,000 = a death rate of .0017142857 that means 1 out every 17142 people died from COVID-19. Remember these numbers were also inflated do to a $49,000 federal payout to the hospitals. So why would anyone take a drug that is not a vaccine,not tested, and being forced upon it's citizens.If it sounds Nefarious! It's because it is! The math is the science. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80269194 Its 0.1714 your math is appalling :) just do 600,000 / 350,000,000 x 100 = |
chrion777
User ID: 79167926 United States 10/26/2021 01:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey all, well the not-unexpected e-mail came today. We have essentially a month to get jabbed. They can go fuck themselves on that. Not doing it and will accept a firing if I have to. Not that I want to, but I will go down swinging. Quoting: Larphillips That said, there have been some EXCELLENT letters, forms, and strategies posted here in the past. Any site search is just going to be far too broad, so if you would be so kind, can you all please post up on this thread with some of the good stuff? I’ll go any route I need to. Now, I’m quite certain I had it early last year, but it was not officially diagnosed. I would consider the ‘religious exemption’ option, Catholic-flavored if possible. Any approach will be considered. I will NOT quit, I will NOT comply, and I will NOT volunteer anything to them. My deepest appreciation. First, it's best if you write your own letter, sincerely in your own words. You know the reasons that you are seeking an exemption. Find the most relevant scripture and site that. List your cathloic faith. You may have multiple reasons for not wanting the vax but remember you need to focus on religious exemptions. You can not list safety concerns. For your Catholic faith you can object to deriving any benefit from testing with aborted fetal cell lines. Remember that the mRNA vaccines were not actually manufacture red with aborted fetal cell lines, but the J&J is actually produced with these cell lines. This is because J&J uses a live-attenuated adenovirus vector and uses teh cell lines to re-produce where the mRNA are synthetic. They used the testing of the cell lines to observe how the mRNA moved into the cytoplasm and created the protein. There are numerous other issues which you can find in your faith and this is just one of the possible concerns. Have you declined other vaccines in the last several years at least? This will help as well. |
chrion777
User ID: 79167926 United States 10/26/2021 01:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey all, well the not-unexpected e-mail came today. We have essentially a month to get jabbed. They can go fuck themselves on that. Not doing it and will accept a firing if I have to. Not that I want to, but I will go down swinging. Quoting: Larphillips That said, there have been some EXCELLENT letters, forms, and strategies posted here in the past. Any site search is just going to be far too broad, so if you would be so kind, can you all please post up on this thread with some of the good stuff? I’ll go any route I need to. Now, I’m quite certain I had it early last year, but it was not officially diagnosed. I would consider the ‘religious exemption’ option, Catholic-flavored if possible. Any approach will be considered. I will NOT quit, I will NOT comply, and I will NOT volunteer anything to them. My deepest appreciation. Print out the VAERS data showing that 10s of thousands have died and millions had adverse reactions. Tell them they are mandating that you potentially hurt yourself. Go to Renz-Law Group and find a lawyer in your area willing to draw up some paperwork saying they will not only be legally liable for any injury but also to fire you for not wanting to take a potentially deadly medical procedure that is NOT FDA approved is against every medical and employer law known to man. *do not do this*. This will give you an instant denial. However you may feel about this, safety can not be a valid objection and will immediately disqualify you. Step 1: Document a sincerely long held religious belief Step 2: Agree to the mitigations The employer will look to accomidate you. If you already work form home you should be good for Step 1. If your job requires you to be in person and interact with the public some employers are approving the religious excemption and saying that never-the-less they can't accomidate you. This also varies some by employer - who may tilt to one side or the other depending on how they may feel themselves about the policy. |
Arlie27
User ID: 79141158 10/26/2021 01:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Be sure no one knows your job , they fire you ,they have to close down ...... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81047705 I designed 30 production machines , the greedy bastards wanted the machines not me .... Well I had the schematics in my hand when notified ! To their bad luck I was near a working shredder, I tripped and the papers went in ....... The dam thing ate the full 1,000 pages under a tenth of a second! They asked me, can you make copys from memory ? I said no ! You just fired me ! Fuck you ! they lost $5.8 million usD and went under ! Never felt better ! They fired over 7 engineers trying to decode the machines and failing miserably. Wow. They never should have fired you. |
chrion777
User ID: 79167926 United States 10/26/2021 01:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First, get a COVID antibodies test since you think you might have had COVID already. They do them at CVS pharmacy or check online. Quoting: 936432979 Then, if the results show you do have the antibodies, file for a medical exemption based on you are already immune and don’t need the vaccination. Attach the test results. Any idea how long they hold? My experience with it was around Feb ‘20. Everyone is different so take the test. For some people they last a lifetime, I’ve heard. There's also this T-Cell test which I just purchased. Haven't taken the test yet; but it is supposed to detect exposure better then the regular antibody test. [link to www.t-detect.com (secure)] |
Arlie27
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Larphillips
(OP) User ID: 78895011 United States 10/26/2021 01:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey all, well the not-unexpected e-mail came today. We have essentially a month to get jabbed. They can go fuck themselves on that. Not doing it and will accept a firing if I have to. Not that I want to, but I will go down swinging. Quoting: Larphillips That said, there have been some EXCELLENT letters, forms, and strategies posted here in the past. Any site search is just going to be far too broad, so if you would be so kind, can you all please post up on this thread with some of the good stuff? I’ll go any route I need to. Now, I’m quite certain I had it early last year, but it was not officially diagnosed. I would consider the ‘religious exemption’ option, Catholic-flavored if possible. Any approach will be considered. I will NOT quit, I will NOT comply, and I will NOT volunteer anything to them. My deepest appreciation. First, it's best if you write your own letter, sincerely in your own words. You know the reasons that you are seeking an exemption. Find the most relevant scripture and site that. List your cathloic faith. You may have multiple reasons for not wanting the vax but remember you need to focus on religious exemptions. You can not list safety concerns. For your Catholic faith you can object to deriving any benefit from testing with aborted fetal cell lines. Remember that the mRNA vaccines were not actually manufacture red with aborted fetal cell lines, but the J&J is actually produced with these cell lines. This is because J&J uses a live-attenuated adenovirus vector and uses teh cell lines to re-produce where the mRNA are synthetic. They used the testing of the cell lines to observe how the mRNA moved into the cytoplasm and created the protein. There are numerous other issues which you can find in your faith and this is just one of the possible concerns. Have you declined other vaccines in the last several years at least? This will help as well. I appreciate the advice, thank you. As for your last question, I haven’t gotten a vaccine of any sort in over 40 years…and I’ve never had a single flu shot my entire life. “A person is smart, people are stupid.” “Nobody knows until everybody knows” |
Larphillips
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Larphillips
(OP) User ID: 78895011 United States 10/26/2021 01:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey all, well the not-unexpected e-mail came today. We have essentially a month to get jabbed. They can go fuck themselves on that. Not doing it and will accept a firing if I have to. Not that I want to, but I will go down swinging. Quoting: Larphillips That said, there have been some EXCELLENT letters, forms, and strategies posted here in the past. Any site search is just going to be far too broad, so if you would be so kind, can you all please post up on this thread with some of the good stuff? I’ll go any route I need to. Now, I’m quite certain I had it early last year, but it was not officially diagnosed. I would consider the ‘religious exemption’ option, Catholic-flavored if possible. Any approach will be considered. I will NOT quit, I will NOT comply, and I will NOT volunteer anything to them. My deepest appreciation. 1) Claim this is a material change to your employment and you wish to negotiate the terms 2) get them to tell you where the FDA "approved" vaccine comniraty can be procured ( it can't be) 3) make them provide, in writing , recognition that legally they cannot compel you to take an experimental treatment 4) make them provide, in writing , recognition that you have a legal right to decline a vaccine on medical and religious bounds and ask them to define what exactly they would require for such an exception to be granted 5) ask them to accept, in writing, all liability for any injury or death that may result from you taking the vaccine, since it is a new requirement they are imposing 6) Ask them if they are taking responsibility for your health in this area if they will take responsibility in all areas - including informing you when co-workers have STDS and paying the full cost of any medical proceedure yoou may need 7) ask them what Doctor they have on staff that they have assumed the right to prescribe medication for you. 8) ask that if they will not agree to the foregoing terms that they provide, in writing , the reasons your dismissal Do not, refuse to take the vaccine out right. This sets up an insubordination defense for them. Do not quit. Make them fire you. Require written confirmation and the reason for your being fired or dismissed. Make them follow their own rules.. larger companies often require an "improvement plan" with quarterly checkups. You forgot to go to the appointment. Your car broke down. Feign epic levels of incompetence. Make them document it then sue them when they finally fire you “A person is smart, people are stupid.” “Nobody knows until everybody knows” |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79499150 United States 10/26/2021 02:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Catholic flavor is worst option as the pope approves of the vax. Don’t get the mark of the beast, no matter what Proof it’s the mark… [link to www.brighteon.com (secure)] |
One Small Ask: Burn a Mask.
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80738247 United States 10/26/2021 02:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no fully FDA approved vaccine for COVID-19 available in the USA, it only approve for emergency authorization use only. Quoting: Terrebonne Sen. Ron Johnson incorrectly claimed there are no approved COVID-19 vaccines in the US [link to www.poynter.org (secure)] . There is no fully FDA approved vaccine for COVID-19 available in the USA, it only approve for emergency authorization use only. Quoting: Terrebonne Sen. Ron Johnson incorrectly claimed there are no approved COVID-19 vaccines in the US [link to www.poynter.org (secure)] . Wrong. He said there are no approved ones currently AVAILABLE in the US. Even if the BionTech and Comirnaty vaxxes are the same in substance, they are not the same in regard to the FDA approval documentation. Words have meaning. If the BionTech vax was to receive full FDA approval, it would have been listed alongside Comirnaty in the approval verbiage. It was not. So, they are not the same from a legal standpoint. Stop muddying the waters. An attorney would have a field day with your logic and the logic of the article that you posted. |
chrion777
User ID: 79167926 United States 10/26/2021 02:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no fully FDA approved vaccine for COVID-19 available in the USA, it only approve for emergency authorization use only. Quoting: Terrebonne Sen. Ron Johnson incorrectly claimed there are no approved COVID-19 vaccines in the US [link to www.poynter.org (secure)] . There is no fully FDA approved vaccine for COVID-19 available in the USA, it only approve for emergency authorization use only. Quoting: Terrebonne Sen. Ron Johnson incorrectly claimed there are no approved COVID-19 vaccines in the US [link to www.poynter.org (secure)] . Wrong. He said there are no approved ones currently AVAILABLE in the US. Even if the BionTech and Comirnaty vaxxes are the same in substance, they are not the same in regard to the FDA approval documentation. Words have meaning. If the BionTech vax was to receive full FDA approval, it would have been listed alongside Comirnaty in the approval verbiage. It was not. So, they are not the same from a legal standpoint. Stop muddying the waters. An attorney would have a field day with your logic and the logic of the article that you posted. This is something for lawyers to fight. It won't help anyone in their job seeking an exemption or maintaining their employment. |
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SpiritinFlesh
User ID: 80244906 United States 10/26/2021 03:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey all, well the not-unexpected e-mail came today. We have essentially a month to get jabbed. They can go fuck themselves on that. Not doing it and will accept a firing if I have to. Not that I want to, but I will go down swinging. Quoting: Larphillips That said, there have been some EXCELLENT letters, forms, and strategies posted here in the past. Any site search is just going to be far too broad, so if you would be so kind, can you all please post up on this thread with some of the good stuff? I’ll go any route I need to. Now, I’m quite certain I had it early last year, but it was not officially diagnosed. I would consider the ‘religious exemption’ option, Catholic-flavored if possible. Any approach will be considered. I will NOT quit, I will NOT comply, and I will NOT volunteer anything to them. My deepest appreciation. Make sure you use all your vacation days and find another job. Wait until we can sue the companies for violating our human rights |
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jjournals
User ID: 73071795 United States 10/26/2021 03:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I used religion exemption. I said my God does not allow us to ingest, inject, consume or drink human tissue or fluids. It got approved, good thing or I would be suing the crap out 'em. In State, Federal and International courts of law. |
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