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Covid surging everywhere
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Omicron Sub-Variants BA.4 and BA.5 Account for up to 13% of COVID Variants in U.S. - CDC
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Why your returning sense of smell after COVID may feel strange
A look at why some people report pleasant smells as rancid and how mint and garlic could help retrain noses.
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Covid cases surging everywhere again.
Expect restrictions again.
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Surged in the U.K. as restrictions where totally dropped…
Expect rip n burn
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has done that everywhere. locally, cases are stable but higher than when we went into restricted alert zones before. reported/official covid deaths are down. consistantly bout 1 death/county/week.

all hush hush, no restrictions coming. they can't afford to with the supply and worker situations. an "all hands on deck" policy to delay the inevitable. stuff is running out.

i think things would have to b so bad, the sheep would demand lockdowns before any govern's try them again. wasn't much of a lockdown the 1st time. was mask requirements. most ppl still went to work. exception was offices and govern workers.

as bad as we know things really are, imagine what it takes to wkae the public. they'd go from the hoax or flu thinking to hiding under their beds. would take high deaths or a pox that they can actually see. otherwise life will b "normal".

that being said, what happens as we near the bottom of the barrels? the govern has plans, they just look dumb. their thinking and ways are not to save ppl but to keep power and society from crashing. as stuff starts to run out such as food and meds, then what is the govern's plan? the bet at this moment is for tax $$ from vacations and summer outings.
that will b low as ppl need the money for food and gas.the baby formula crisis was a test to gauge the ppl's reactions.
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Deaths are increasing and also being surpressed. Geert expects this to begin to escalate now.
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do u read CC1's thread? i did a projection on the supply issues and how fast things should run out. very ruff math, but we have 1.5 yrs til things will get very bad.
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Is CC1 CleverCreator? If yes, yup, reading her thread also including your post just that I normally don't reply or comment, cause fully focused on Covid research or news. :-)
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Most workers who died of COVID in 2020 had something essential in common, study finds
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this is the opposite of what i have seen on the ground here. i'm on the edge of what i call a "the rocking chair zone". farthest away from metro's; rural, small town USA. i've reported on the way waves come thru here. they start in NYC and follow along the turnpikes of both PA and NY states. the interstate here is not completed on the NYC end. takes time for the waves to even get here.

covid started in rich ppl. those who could afford cruises and World traveling vacations. it also started with upper management ppl that traveled for work. the waves were also cliquey. the wealthy brought it back and spread it to their friends ,co-workers, and family. it took time for it to move down to poorer gas station workers, cab drivers, and low grade retail cashiers. granted it would get to the lower income ppl of the cities faster than it even got to the rocking chair zone. but even now, 2 yrs into the pandemic, the workers missing are govern offices, postal workers, managers, and medical personnel. low grade cashiers and construction workers are still at their posts.

so the report is flawed. either it is a small snapshot only considering metro areas or the method of calculating is wrong. i think they figured the death totals and did not consider the other variables. forgot to take in for the fact that there are more workers at the bottom than the top. if they ratioed via population, they'd see a different result. they also didn't take into consideration that the top ppl ,especially govern., stayed home during most of the wave.

more ppl may have died in the poorer sides of the metro's. i am not seeing that here. the missing are top level. whole offices wiped out of workers. none of the lower end retail stores have lost the entire workforces. the same ppl are there now as before.
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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Note: For example MA10 (also P10 or MAP10) means mice adapted passage 10. But I am not sure it means 10 rounds of re-infection (same mice) or 10 mutations cycle (different mice), hope someone can correct me, thanks.






Based on SARS1 study.

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A Mouse-Adapted SARS-Coronavirus Causes Disease and Mortality in BALB/c Mice


Based on Covid19 study.

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In comparison to MA10 published already, those variants were derived from different hosts. BMA8 was isolated from old BALB/c mice (9-month-old) with 8 passages, while C57MA14 was obtained from old C57BL/6N mice (9-month-old) with 14 passages, but MA10 was developed from young adult BALB/c mice (10-week-old) with 10 passages. Mortality rate of 20%–60% was recorded in young adult BALB/c mice, and nearly 100% mortality rate was shown in aged BALB/c mice (1-year-old), but ameliorated disease and no mortality in C57L/6J mice after SARS-CoV-2 MA10. The pathogenicity of MA10 seemed to be more virulent than BMA8 but weaker than C57MA14. Overall, BMA8 and C57MA14 can reflect the clinical characteristics of asymptomatic, mild, and severe disease of COVID-19 in mice.

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SARS-CoV-2 infection in hamsters and humans results in lasting and unique systemic perturbations post recovery
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Weekly deaths figures for England and Wales have been released. The most recent week had 10% more deaths than the 5-year average.

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The most recent 6 weeks have seen an average of 13% excess deaths compared to the 5 year average.

The ONS has indicated that the first 8 weeks' data in 2022 on excess deaths is not representative of trends due to the fact that 2021 is included in the 5-year average (2020's data is not included at all).

The first 8 weeks of 2021 saw many deaths due to Alpha.

So weeks 9-21 of 2022 have seen, on average, 6% excess deaths. But as I've stated the trend over the past six weeks is excess deaths of around 10-15%.
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Weekly deaths figures for England and Wales have been released. The most recent week had 10% more deaths than the 5-year average.

[link to www.ons.gov.uk (secure)]

The most recent 6 weeks have seen an average of 13% excess deaths compared to the 5 year average.

The ONS has indicated that the first 8 weeks' data in 2022 on excess deaths is not representative of trends due to the fact that 2021 is included in the 5-year average (2020's data is not included at all).

The first 8 weeks of 2021 saw many deaths due to Alpha.

So weeks 9-21 of 2022 have seen, on average, 6% excess deaths. But as I've stated the trend over the past six weeks is excess deaths of around 10-15%.
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Graphical representation, still very red in the 45+ ages.
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It is spreading, everyone wear their masks,
two if you have extra.

Vaccinations and horse paste optional.

And do not go ANYWHERE. Do not spend any money.

You can return to normal life, when the American Government says it is Safe. And we stop seeing scary videos from China.

Think I covered the important facts.

Almost forgot, DONT TOUCH ANYONE
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It is spreading, everyone wear their masks,
two if you have extra.

Vaccinations and horse paste optional.

And do not go ANYWHERE. Do not spend any money.

You can return to normal life, when the American Government says it is Safe. And we stop seeing scary videos from China.

Think I covered the important facts.

Almost forgot, DONT TOUCH ANYONE
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I forgive you for misunderstanding the gist of the ONS excess deaths data.

COVID is NOT killing these 10-20% people in the excess deaths category. (Covid 19 is primary cause of just 2.4% of deaths for Eng/Wales atm.. )

Something else is killing them ;)
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It is spreading, everyone wear their masks,
two if you have extra.

Vaccinations and horse paste optional.

And do not go ANYWHERE. Do not spend any money.

You can return to normal life, when the American Government says it is Safe. And we stop seeing scary videos from China.

Think I covered the important facts.

Almost forgot, DONT TOUCH ANYONE
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80822347

I forgive you for misunderstanding the gist of the ONS excess deaths data.

COVID is NOT killing these 10-20% people in the excess deaths category. (Covid 19 is primary cause of just 2.4% of deaths for Eng/Wales atm.. )

Something else is killing them ;)
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norespect
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It is spreading, everyone wear their masks,
two if you have extra.

Vaccinations and horse paste optional.

And do not go ANYWHERE. Do not spend any money.

You can return to normal life, when the American Government says it is Safe. And we stop seeing scary videos from China.

Think I covered the important facts.

Almost forgot, DONT TOUCH ANYONE
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80822347

I forgive you for misunderstanding the gist of the ONS excess deaths data.

COVID is NOT killing these 10-20% people in the excess deaths category. (Covid 19 is primary cause of just 2.4% of deaths for Eng/Wales atm.. )

Something else is killing them ;)
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This chart shows why many of us are so worried

https://imgur.com/a/9yrAAS8
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This chart shows why many of us are so worried

[imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)]
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According to history, the charts posted lines up with what always happens in December, January, February and March.


In 2017, an average of 7,708 deaths occurred each day. January, February, and December were the months with the highest average daily number of deaths


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‘Calendar of death’ reveals the months of the year you’re most likely to die
The morbid figures show that March is one of the most fatal periods


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This chart shows why many of us are so worried

[imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Diffster


According to history, the charts posted lines up with what always happens in December, January, February and March.


In 2017, an average of 7,708 deaths occurred each day. January, February, and December were the months with the highest average daily number of deaths


[link to www.cdc.gov (secure)]

‘Calendar of death’ reveals the months of the year you’re most likely to die
The morbid figures show that March is one of the most fatal periods


[link to www.thesun.co.uk (secure)]
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Correct, it is called Winter Months equals more Deaths.

peace
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This chart shows why many of us are so worried

[imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Diffster


According to history, the charts posted lines up with what always happens in December, January, February and March.


In 2017, an average of 7,708 deaths occurred each day. January, February, and December were the months with the highest average daily number of deaths


[link to www.cdc.gov (secure)]

‘Calendar of death’ reveals the months of the year you’re most likely to die
The morbid figures show that March is one of the most fatal periods


[link to www.thesun.co.uk (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80701876


Correct, it is called Winter Months equals more Deaths.

peace
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Nope we are talking about the last 4-6 weeks, which is variously between 13-25% above the 5-yr average based on '15-'19....
Graphical representation, still very red in the 45+ ages.
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Any other reports of BA.5?
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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This chart shows why many of us are so worried

[imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Diffster


According to history, the charts posted lines up with what always happens in December, January, February and March.


In 2017, an average of 7,708 deaths occurred each day. January, February, and December were the months with the highest average daily number of deaths


[link to www.cdc.gov (secure)]

‘Calendar of death’ reveals the months of the year you’re most likely to die
The morbid figures show that March is one of the most fatal periods


[link to www.thesun.co.uk (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80701876


Correct, it is called Winter Months equals more Deaths.

peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82752658

Nope we are talking about the last 4-6 weeks, which is variously between 13-25% above the 5-yr average based on '15-'19....
Graphical representation, still very red in the 45+ ages.
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You guys are digging deep for any data point, tweet or news source that a doom scenario is happening. And to be honest, you are scraping the bottom of the barrel of the internet.

I assure you, the Doom scenario/SHTF event that you are searching for. You will know when it happens. There will be no questioning, The whole world will know it.
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but we don't wanta know when everyone else is. then will b too late. they'll already b infected. or starving... or burning up... or nuked....

we wanta know before the rest dig their heads out of the sand.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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Any other reports of BA.5?
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We’ll all be swimming in BA.4 & BA.5 soon.

Here a fit to the Belgian GISAID sequence data. BA.5 is winning. BA.4 & BA.5 have a growth advantage relative to BA.2 of 8.8% [7.6-10.1%] and 14% [12-16%] per day, which with a generation time of 4 days would imply BA.5 having a 1.75x higher Rt value than BA.2.

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Any other reports of BA.5?
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We’ll all be swimming in BA.4 & BA.5 soon.

Here a fit to the Belgian GISAID sequence data. BA.5 is winning. BA.4 & BA.5 have a growth advantage relative to BA.2 of 8.8% [7.6-10.1%] and 14% [12-16%] per day, which with a generation time of 4 days would imply BA.5 having a 1.75x higher Rt value than BA.2.

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Thanks Guythu :-)

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COVID-19 pandemic's origins obscured by lack of Chinese data: WHO panel
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Unless very rich, if lost job due to serious long Covid affecting work performance, how to survive in this world without income?

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COVID-19 infection may negatively impact work performance post-recovery: study

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Upgrading buildings’ ventilation, filtration and other factors would not only decrease COVID transmission but also improve health and cognitive performance in general
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