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The Politics of Starvation

 
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There was a guy who watched me open a stick of butter in Germany, unwrap it and discard the wrapper.

He got up and got it out of the trash.

then he scraped ALL the bits of butter remaining on it onto a knife, and added it to the stick of butter.


We can tell that you Amis (Americans) never experienced starvation, he said . . .



Historical facts were not his strong point -


a personal experience with prolonged hunger was.

 Quoting: beeches


He would be wrong; many people did experience starvation during the years leading up to and after the Great Depression. As a child, we had some very bad years with very low pantries.

It would not stop me from wanting to keep my freedom. I will eat grass before I knuckle under.
Sorry I got a headache

These are the times that tries men's and
women's souls!

May we come though it victorious!
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The Democrats with dual citizenship conspired with Communist China to win World War 3 without firing a shot including this manufactured supply chain crisis being used as the facade to mask this GLOBALIST OFFENSIVE which is actually a de facto blockade involving our own government to sanction it's own citizenry through embargoes at every level targeting red states and conservatives to starve out those that survive the next phase involving electrical grid rationing and water rationing over the winter to freeze out the rest of the unvaxxinated

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Thread: Trump: If I lose the election, you're going to have to learn to speak Chinese (Page 2)
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Thread: Trump's Grand Daughter Serenades Chinese President
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The Democrats with dual citizenship conspired with Communist China to win World War 3 without firing a shot including this manufactured supply chain crisis being used as the facade to mask this GLOBALIST OFFENSIVE which is actually a de facto blockade involving our own government to sanction it's own citizenry through embargoes at every level targeting red states and conservatives to starve out those that survive the next phase involving electrical grid rationing and water rationing over the winter to freeze out the rest of the unvaxxinated

trump-wng1
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Thread: Trump: If I lose the election, you're going to have to learn to speak Chinese (Page 2)
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Arabella Kushner Sings Chinese Songs at US-China Summit

"Donald Trump's Granddaughter Arabella Kushner Sings Chinese Song Jasmine in Mar-a-Lago Resort Florida, at US-China Summit with Chinese President Xi Jinping"



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Well
It’s just maybe a calling to end dependency on other people feeding you

I am getting and storing canned goods

But if I have to
There are plenty of game in my area to be trapped
Or caught
I actually live in the oldest inhabited area in North America
Not to many people know this
Cradle of civilization
Five biosomes converging
That’s why I live here now and that is why all this craziness is taking place
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Well
It’s just maybe a calling to end dependency on other people feeding you

I am getting and storing canned goods

But if I have to
There are plenty of game in my area to be trapped
Or caught
I actually live in the oldest inhabited area in North America
Not to many people know this
Cradle of civilization
Five biosomes converging
That’s why I live here now and that is why all this craziness is taking place
 Quoting: Vespertopia1717 49303066


*Biomes*
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There was a guy who watched me open a stick of butter in Germany, unwrap it and discard the wrapper.

He got up and got it out of the trash.

then he scraped ALL the bits of butter remaining on it onto a knife, and added it to the stick of butter.


We can tell that you Amis (Americans) never experienced starvation, he said . . .



Historical facts were not his strong point -


a personal experience with prolonged hunger was.

 Quoting: beeches


He would be wrong; many people did experience starvation during the years leading up to and after the Great Depression. As a child, we had some very bad years with very low pantries.

It would not stop me from wanting to keep my freedom. I will eat grass before I knuckle under.
 Quoting: hankie


Of course he was wrong.
Many Europeans had a very narrow view of America and American history when I was there.
Quite possibly the same is true today.

Lets's keep our freedom. Tomorrow and forever.

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In WAR, starvation is the greatest killer.
Your perception of me is a reflection of you.
I've got a front row seat to the end of the world.
my pronouns are: told/you/so
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Well
It’s just maybe a calling to end dependency on other people feeding you

I am getting and storing canned goods

But if I have to
There are plenty of game in my area to be trapped
Or caught
I actually live in the oldest inhabited area in North America
Not to many people know this
Cradle of civilization
Five biosomes converging
That’s why I live here now and that is why all this craziness is taking place
 Quoting: Vespertopia1717 49303066


*Biomes*
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49303066


thank you vesper....

I was just thinking about food dependency and how the school districts promote it.

They used to charge for a school lunch, then they reduced the cost for poorer kids.

that made the poorer kids sef-conscious, the schools thought, so they made the school lunches FREE for all students.

THEN they added free breakfasts...




so today - I don't even know if schools LET students bring lunches made at home any more. It was forbidden for them to share food with others, when I was there.

the whole thing means: Schools feed these kids 2 meals a day, and during the summer, lunch wagons bring the meals to them.

this is the exact opposite of learning self-sufficiency.

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In WAR, starvation is the greatest killer.
 Quoting: Trio


An army fights on its stomach, they say.
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Well
It’s just maybe a calling to end dependency on other people feeding you

I am getting and storing canned goods

But if I have to
There are plenty of game in my area to be trapped
Or caught
I actually live in the oldest inhabited area in North America
Not to many people know this
Cradle of civilization
Five biosomes converging
That’s why I live here now and that is why all this craziness is taking place
 Quoting: Vespertopia1717 49303066


*Biomes*
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49303066


reminds me of this old place...
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
ride the tram and one can see how biomes change.
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In WAR, starvation is the greatest killer.
 Quoting: Trio


An army fights on its stomach, they say.
 Quoting: beeches


I find the subject of starvation very concerning. The public at large is not prepared for a food shortage. This will turn everyone against one another and the war would be against ourselves. Most people in the USA would not be able to go a week without food. It would be a quick kill off to starve out the country. If you were an enemy of this country it would be a good way to attack it. Starve out the population and turn them against one another.
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Stalin. 3.9 million people starved to death.

..."And, unlike other famines in history caused by blight
or drought, this was caused when a dictator wanted both to
replace Ukraine’s small farms with state-run collectives
and punish independence-minded Ukrainians who posed a threat
to his totalitarian authority."...


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THEY can and will do it when it suits THEM.

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So if the unvaxxed won’t be able to buy food, then how will they eat? Will they be able to order the food online?
Not everyone can grown a garden all year around. Im not sure but I doubt someone could live off vegetables alone without any type of fat or protein, but I could be wrong. Even if one could, I doubt the average person could grow enough vegetables for a family to eat several times a day everyday!
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So if the unvaxxed won’t be able to buy food, then how will they eat? Will they be able to order the food online?
Not everyone can grown a garden all year around. Im not sure but I doubt someone could live off vegetables alone without any type of fat or protein, but I could be wrong. Even if one could, I doubt the average person could grow enough vegetables for a family to eat several times a day everyday!
 Quoting: Ocean Goddess


If the "unvaxxed" are not permitted in stores to buy food, which is a travesty equal to not being able to fill a doctor's prescription for ivermectin -


then I doubt banning the "unvaxxed" from online food sales is far behind.

Then comes rationing of supplies, so people who would buy food to share with the "unvaxxed" will be unable to do that, either.

Since we refused the poison jab, there will be another way to get rid of us.

that is where ALL of this is going. Not the other way.
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with food uncertainty comes a focus on food.

after that, exhaustion after finding it.

later, one is too apathetic to care about much.



now I understand the empty shelves of East Germany and Poland when under Communistic Rule.

it was to keep them docile.
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They didnt have 500 million guns and many well trained ex servicemen with recent battle experience in the community.


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In WAR, starvation is the greatest killer.
 Quoting: Trio


An army fights on its stomach, they say.
 Quoting: beeches


I find the subject of starvation very concerning. The public at large is not prepared for a food shortage. This will turn everyone against one another and the war would be against ourselves. Most people in the USA would not be able to go a week without food. It would be a quick kill off to starve out the country. If you were an enemy of this country it would be a good way to attack it. Starve out the population and turn them against one another.
 Quoting: Trio


I totally agree with you.

there are people who have been talking about "food deserts" for years.
These are most often urban areas where the residents' crime makes it impossible for groceries to do normal business.

Food deserts... yep they want this to expand, not decrease. Share the hunger, it's only fair...

(liberal rant)

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Stalin. 3.9 million people starved to death.

..."And, unlike other famines in history caused by blight
or drought, this was caused when a dictator wanted both to
replace Ukraine’s small farms with state-run collectives
and punish independence-minded Ukrainians who posed a threat
to his totalitarian authority."...


[link to www.history.com (secure)]

THEY can and will do it when it suits THEM.

bf8
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Yes.

Mao starved millions too in the Great Leap Forward, where farmers who did not comply were murdered.
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that Henry Kissinger quote is coming in more handy all the time:




Control oil and you control the nations

Control food and you control the people.

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housing is the cornerstone of money slavery it's just that

only satanic nations actually hate the poor instead of feeling sympathy or helping them with the thing they obviously need, a place to sleep.

why would you begrudge people a safe warm place to sleep? why are there no churches that let the homeless sleep in the goddamn church? how perfect and evil can your hypocrysy be

they act like they don't know what the solution is? non sense.

they just don't want housing to be cheap or people will hold out for higher wages
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that Henry Kissinger quote is coming in more handy all the time:




Control oil and you control the nations

Control food and you control the people.

 Quoting: beeches


housing is the cornerstone of money slavery it's just that

only satanic nations actually hate the poor instead of feeling sympathy or helping them with the thing they obviously need, a place to sleep.

why would you begrudge people a safe warm place to sleep? why are there no churches that let the homeless sleep in the goddamn church? how perfect and evil can your hypocrysy be

they act like they don't know what the solution is? non sense.

they just don't want housing to be cheap or people will hold out for higher wages
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Typical to hate on Christianity yet expect it to solve all the housing problems.
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Try as you must to be SELF-SUFFICIENT...PREP.
 Quoting: Alsabiades


learn to farm NOW

no matter if you are doing it on a window sill or a few extra acres.

get chicks now, some will die, others will produce lots of eggs in six months.

get a couple turkey chicks now - six months til maturity.

Rabbits are supposedly the easiest meat animal. Have not tried them.


in the war, Germans called cats by another name.

they were edible "roof rabbits".
 Quoting: beeches



Good stuff. Those that want to do turkeys... get heritage breeds. White Broad Breasted are no good they can't breed naturally. Males get so heavy they'll kill the female if they mate.

thank you.


Big Waynepoults1
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thank you.

I do want turkeys that can reproduce by themselves!

we may not be able to order any kinds of chicks or turkey poults if the fools at the top have their way.

you have beautiful birds there.
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If you can't get food for yourself, how do you plan on getting food to feed your birds? Do you plan to store enough of it that it will mold after a month? Seriously, if neighbors knew you had birds, they would kill them before you reaped any foood benefit from those yard birds.
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Mao starved millions too in the Great Leap Forward, where farmers who did not comply were murdered.
 Quoting: beeches


why do you only ever hear about people starving?


why do they never mention that hundreds of millions died from exposure?

its one of the things they are never ever supposed to talk about.

you can go weeks without eating you can go about 48 hours without shelter, or 2 hours in the winter
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China has led the Chinese into 3 famines, estimates of 400 million in total were starved to death. Many people who died owned ancestral farmland which had been handed down by generations over many centuries. They refused to sell. They opposed communism, obviously. This is the Chinese disgraceful way of convincing the people to not resist their government. The government sent spies into the countryside after making it illegal to speak negatively of the CCP. The punishment was harsh and cruel. A woman was stripped naked and forced to work in subzero temperatures, tethered to a post, until she died of hypothermia. A man was jailed and fed salt-laden fish as the only food, then refused water until he signed over his farmland. Those who lived resorted to cannibalism and first hand reports described a family cooking a newborn child to feed the older children. The Chinese people are more than a little insane as a result of their government’s methods of dealing with the opposition.
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learn to farm NOW

no matter if you are doing it on a window sill or a few extra acres.

get chicks now, some will die, others will produce lots of eggs in six months.

get a couple turkey chicks now - six months til maturity.

Rabbits are supposedly the easiest meat animal. Have not tried them.


in the war, Germans called cats by another name.

they were edible "roof rabbits".
 Quoting: beeches



Good stuff. Those that want to do turkeys... get heritage breeds. White Broad Breasted are no good they can't breed naturally. Males get so heavy they'll kill the female if they mate.

thank you.


Big Waynepoults1
 Quoting: #521


thank you.

I do want turkeys that can reproduce by themselves!

we may not be able to order any kinds of chicks or turkey poults if the fools at the top have their way.

you have beautiful birds there.
 Quoting: beeches


If you can't get food for yourself, how do you plan on getting food to feed your birds? Do you plan to store enough of it that it will mold after a month? Seriously, if neighbors knew you had birds, they would kill them before you reaped any foood benefit from those yard birds.
 Quoting: Sal Monella



The current flock I know could well exist on what they can find in nature. Egg production might drop.

They have acres and acres of woods to roam. Neighbors like-minded.

Wild predators a larger concern.
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Mao starved millions too in the Great Leap Forward, where farmers who did not comply were murdered.
 Quoting: beeches


why do you only ever hear about people starving?


why do they never mention that hundreds of millions died from exposure?

its one of the things they are never ever supposed to talk about.

you can go weeks without eating you can go about 48 hours without shelter, or 2 hours in the winter
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It's a fine topic for you to start a thread about.
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Learn nose to tail cooking (and eating)... rabbit meat is very lean, but the bones, liver etc can also be used... I would not recommend eating brain, even if some people do. There has been more than one connection to the mad cow disease, also rednecks hunting squirrels eating rabbit brains have had similar symptoms, and, cannibals in papua new guinea, eating brain also have some sort of similar problem.
But, in general, if you are going to eat meat, you better learn to use most of the carcass... Muscle meat is just one part, of the animal, and trust me when you're hungry, you'll have different standards!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81032585


I will starve before ever being brought down that low as to eat the flesh of other living beings.
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wow arnt you stupid...
 Quoting: MississippiGirl


Am I, now? How about you justify why you say that.

Is there anything you wouldn't do in the case of extreme hunger? Do you have any red lines or limits?

When that rugby team plane crash happened in south America, some of the survivors ate the dead bodies of their friends. Others refused. Were they stupid? Would you have eaten that flesh? Is there anything you wouldn't do to avoid your own death - which is coming, eventually, no matter what you choose to do before that time comes?
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With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

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Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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Try as you must to be SELF-SUFFICIENT...PREP.
 Quoting: Alsabiades


learn to farm NOW

no matter if you are doing it on a window sill or a few extra acres.

get chicks now, some will die, others will produce lots of eggs in six months.

get a couple turkey chicks now - six months til maturity.

Rabbits are supposedly the easiest meat animal. Have not tried them.


in the war, Germans called cats by another name.

they were edible "roof rabbits".
 Quoting: beeches


don't forget thos other lesser known delicacies

Chicken of the cave
And
Chicken of the railyard

Aka bats n cats

Brought ot you courtesy of Anchorman II the legend continues
(and the greatest line eve 'i'll shoot you in the cooch with a bb gun' delivered by the goddss that is Christina applegate)
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Learn nose to tail cooking (and eating)... rabbit meat is very lean, but the bones, liver etc can also be used... I would not recommend eating brain, even if some people do. There has been more than one connection to the mad cow disease, also rednecks hunting squirrels eating rabbit brains have had similar symptoms, and, cannibals in papua new guinea, eating brain also have some sort of similar problem.
But, in general, if you are going to eat meat, you better learn to use most of the carcass... Muscle meat is just one part, of the animal, and trust me when you're hungry, you'll have different standards!
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I will starve before ever being brought down that low as to eat the flesh of other living beings.
 Quoting: thinking...


wow arnt you stupid...
 Quoting: MississippiGirl


Am I, now? How about you justify why you say that.

Is there anything you wouldn't do in the case of extreme hunger? Do you have any red lines or limits?

When that rugby team plane crash happened in south America, some of the survivors ate the dead bodies of their friends. Others refused. Were they stupid? Would you have eaten that flesh? Is there anything you wouldn't do to avoid your own death - which is coming, eventually, no matter what you choose to do before that time comes?
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It's your choice now and at any time.
Not stupid or smart - just part of your way of being in this world.
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Good thread! And scary.

I'm reminded of Amazing Polly how she said she can no longer talk to her loved-one who is pro-mandates. That loved-one is actually, in a way, saying they want unvaxed Polly to starve.

Now, I brought that up here at my home and what the people said was that the vaxed want their "hesitant" loved ones to get vaxed, and so they are pro-mandate because it serves their personal agenda.

But those loved-ones's aren't looking past their own, selfish desires. And they definitely aren't remembering their history of what happens once people become second or third class citizens.

It's like if a mother was embarrassed by her daughter's witch-like behavior in the olden days. And so she was pro-witch hunt because she thought maybe her daughter would stop acting witchy. And then oops, daughter gets burned at the stake.
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You're ALREADY a second class citizen...

The U.S. citizen was created by Congress when they passed the 14th Amendment on July 16th, 1868 !

So what class of citizen existed for the first 90+ years?

What are We the People? (because they are not U.S. citizens...)

And if you don't know... how can you be one?
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Try as you must to be SELF-SUFFICIENT...PREP.
 Quoting: Alsabiades


learn to farm NOW

no matter if you are doing it on a window sill or a few extra acres.

get chicks now, some will die, others will produce lots of eggs in six months.

get a couple turkey chicks now - six months til maturity.

Rabbits are supposedly the easiest meat animal. Have not tried them.


in the war, Germans called cats by another name.

they were edible "roof rabbits".
 Quoting: beeches


you cannot get full nutrition from rabbit meat, look up rabbit fever and incomplete nutrition from rabit meat, but can be a supplement and they will eat grass .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78888723


no one food offers "full nutrition".

some come close, but none do.

Rabbits are indeed among the easiest to keep for food - you can do it in your home if you have to.

try that with a goat.
 Quoting: beeches



Whole eggs come very close and you can survive on eggs alone for a very long while.
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Pretty fucking stupid theory you have op.





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