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PUBLISHED!!!! Vikings were in North America by 1021!

 
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Centuries before Christopher Columbus stumbled across the Bahamas, the Vikings established a beachhead at L’Anse Aux Meadows, a site on the northern peninsula of what is now Newfoundland, Canada. A recent study narrows down the date of the Norse arrival in North America to as early as 1021 CE, based on scraps of discarded wood from the site and with help from the aftermath of an ancient solar storm.

Vikings and cosmic rays

In the early 1200s, Icelandic authors wrote down two sagas describing Norse explorers’ trips to a place called Vinland. The expeditions had happened about two centuries earlier. Based on those sagas and the types of artifacts left behind at L’Anse aux Meadows, archaeologists today generally agree that the Norse arrived sometime near the end of the 1st millennium CE. For a few years (between three and 10), the Norse settlers used the site as a base for explorations farther south—and then they left.
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Goes well with the conspiracy that the very elites of Europe were using N America as their personal play ground and kept it hidden for almost 500 years.
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Thread: Confirmed: Vikings Reached the Americas 471 Years Before Columbus


Sorry. Just saw yours. GLP is losing in the news category. Pretty big deal that used to be a big time conspiracy. Now it’s fact.
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I was taught Erik the Red.

Why is that all the drama of who was really here HAS nothing to do with Native Americans?
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There was a special event that affected all the trees on the planet that can be used to this day.


Radiocarbon dating of charcoal from L’Anse aux Meadows suggests that the Viking Age came to American shores sometime between 975 and 1020 CE. To narrow down when the Norse arrived in Newfoundland, University of Groningen chronologists Michael Dee and Margot Kuitems, along with their colleagues, looked for evidence of the year a solar storm bombarded Earth’s atmosphere with radiation.

In late 992 and early 993 CE, people in Korea, Germany, and Ireland all mentioned vibrant red auroras dancing in the night sky. Trees around the world trapped an unusually high amount of carbon-14 in their growth rings the following year. Carbon-14 forms in the upper atmosphere when highly energized particles called cosmic rays collide with nitrogen molecules. Usually, those cosmic rays come from events outside our Solar System, toward the center of the Milky Way galaxy, but physicists blame the 993 CE event on our own Sun.
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I was taught Erik the Red.

Why is that all the drama of who was really here HAS nothing to do with Native Americans?
 Quoting: pool


They may have been the invaders before the Europeans.
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Sorry. Just saw yours. GLP is losing in the news category. Pretty big deal that used to be a big time conspiracy. Now it’s fact.
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I've read plenty of 19th and early 20th century textbooks and histories that include Viking's in NA in the early 4 digits, i.e. 1000 A.D., and after.

This I also learned in grade school in the 60s and 70s.

Why is this 'news'?

Next ya'll will claim to discover a trendy European thing once known as The Renaissance.

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Sorry. Just saw yours. GLP is losing in the news category. Pretty big deal that used to be a big time conspiracy. Now it’s fact.
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I've read plenty of 19th and early 20th century textbooks and histories that include Viking's in NA in the early 4 digits, i.e. 1000 A.D., and after.

This I also learned in grade school in the 60s and 70s.

Why is this 'news'?

Next ya'll will claim to discover a trendy European thing once known as The Renaissance.

smh
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No. It’s not news to you and I. It’s news to those that rewrite our history. Several professors over the years have been terminated over such claims. Until this evidence, there were none physical except ruinstones. Which can’t be dated. If you were lucky enough to be taught privately, you’ll remember the books used words like “probably” and “most likely”. The education system will now have to accept it.
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There was a story about a Viking sword found in Minnesota but no one can prove it was left there by Vikings and not some European collector losing it.
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The last 10 years, the greatest driver of this theory was…The History Channel. Several shows from Oak island to Americas hidden secrets have all pushed the narrative. And have also been made fun of for it.
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The natives and Norse got along great.

perfect trading partners.

likely Red haired Giants were also among those North American residents the Norse respected
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The natives and Norse got along great.

perfect trading partners.

likely Red haired Giants were also among those North American residents the Norse respected
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There are stories about whites and reds being trading partners for centuries before Columbus. But oral traditions aren’t proof either.
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I was taught Erik the Red.

Why is that all the drama of who was really here HAS nothing to do with Native Americans?
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I think it was Ragnar Lothbrok.
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Its been known about for a very long time.

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Sorry. Just saw yours. GLP is losing in the news category. Pretty big deal that used to be a big time conspiracy. Now it’s fact.
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What are you talking about this hasn't been a big time conspiracy for a long time

I earned a master's degree in early American history from Cornell in the 1990s.. and it was taught that the Vikings made it here in the 10th 11th century

They never set up permanent settlements like Columbus and the other Spanish and English explorers did though
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So the Yarmouth Runic stone isn't a fake?
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This is old news.

I visited Lanse aux Meadows in 1981 in Newfoundland.

They found Viking relics in undisturbed soil from almost 1000 years ago.

They created the settlement to mine iron from the local bogs, the same way they create it in Norway and Iceland.

The iron was needed to make nails to help hold their ships together.
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I was taught Erik the Red.

Why is that all the drama of who was really here HAS nothing to do with Native Americans?
 Quoting: pool


I've always thought the name of the continent was a clue:

am ERIC a

ie, the country eric found.

Remember faux-cahontis? (Warren) Well, I felt a little bad for her because our family too had passed down history that the men of our family married native Americans. But when we do dna tests ...there's not much there.

Is it because the native Americans of Nova Scotia were already carrying European ancestry?
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Its been known about for a very long time.


 Quoting: skinnybob


Again, yes, people on GLP leaned in favor of it. It has not been proven beyond doubt ( a fact ) until peer reviewed proof was presented.


In other words, the conspiracy became true. Again.
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Sorry. Just saw yours. GLP is losing in the news category. Pretty big deal that used to be a big time conspiracy. Now it’s fact.
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What are you talking about this hasn't been a big time conspiracy for a long time

I earned a master's degree in early American history from Cornell in the 1990s.. and it was taught that the Vikings made it here in the 10th 11th century

They never set up permanent settlements like Columbus and the other Spanish and English explorers did though
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Went private school in 70’s and taught it too. It was taught as a BELIEF not a FACT. Hence the report in the link.
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I was taught Erik the Red.

Why is that all the drama of who was really here HAS nothing to do with Native Americans?
 Quoting: pool


I've always thought the name of the continent was a clue:

am ERIC a

ie, the country eric found.

Remember faux-cahontis? (Warren) Well, I felt a little bad for her because our family too had passed down history that the men of our family married native Americans. But when we do dna tests ...there's not much there.

Is it because the native Americans of Nova Scotia were already carrying European ancestry?
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First Amerigo Vespucci ..

And second.. it's nothing new for families to have tales about native American blood in their family

Because it was even hip and cool back in the day to say that

If you have any native blood in you it will certainly come up in a DNA test... Especially if it's a good amount

And genetically native Americans as a whole have no European genetics... Native Americans true natives can't even grow beards
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Sorry. Just saw yours. GLP is losing in the news category. Pretty big deal that used to be a big time conspiracy. Now it’s fact.
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What are you talking about this hasn't been a big time conspiracy for a long time

I earned a master's degree in early American history from Cornell in the 1990s.. and it was taught that the Vikings made it here in the 10th 11th century

They never set up permanent settlements like Columbus and the other Spanish and English explorers did though
 Quoting: SleepyJoe&theHoe


Went private school in 70’s and taught it too. It was taught as a BELIEF not a FACT. Hence the report in the link.
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It's been accepted as a fact for 30 years now
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Re: PUBLISHED!!!! Vikings were in North America by 1021!
This is old news.

I visited Lanse aux Meadows in 1981 in Newfoundland.

They found Viking relics in undisturbed soil from almost 1000 years ago.

They created the settlement to mine iron from the local bogs, the same way they create it in Norway and Iceland.

The iron was needed to make nails to help hold their ships together.
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Why is this so hard to understand? Yes. Minnesota calls their nfl team the VIKINGS. Because it was a belief. In the United States it’s taught that Portuguese and Spaniards discovered America. It’s NOT TRUE. Ever hear of Columbus Day?


So. Those who believed the tales were right to believe in them. They are now facts.
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Centuries before Christopher Columbus stumbled across the Bahamas, the Vikings established a beachhead at L’Anse Aux Meadows, a site on the northern peninsula of what is now Newfoundland, Canada. A recent study narrows down the date of the Norse arrival in North America to as early as 1021 CE, based on scraps of discarded wood from the site and with help from the aftermath of an ancient solar storm.

Vikings and cosmic rays

In the early 1200s, Icelandic authors wrote down two sagas describing Norse explorers’ trips to a place called Vinland. The expeditions had happened about two centuries earlier. Based on those sagas and the types of artifacts left behind at L’Anse aux Meadows, archaeologists today generally agree that the Norse arrived sometime near the end of the 1st millennium CE. For a few years (between three and 10), the Norse settlers used the site as a base for explorations farther south—and then they left.
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Vikings eh? I'm going to have to talk to Josh and Portman about this one.

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Re: PUBLISHED!!!! Vikings were in North America by 1021!
This is old news.

I visited Lanse aux Meadows in 1981 in Newfoundland.

They found Viking relics in undisturbed soil from almost 1000 years ago.

They created the settlement to mine iron from the local bogs, the same way they create it in Norway and Iceland.

The iron was needed to make nails to help hold their ships together.
 Quoting: Crypto-Tard


Why is this so hard to understand? Yes. Minnesota calls their nfl team the VIKINGS. Because it was a belief. In the United States it’s taught that Portuguese and Spaniards discovered America. It’s NOT TRUE. Ever hear of Columbus Day?


So. Those who believed the tales were right to believe in them. They are now facts.
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Columbus Day celebrates the beginning of the colonization of the new world

The Vikings did not colonize North America.. they had non-permanent settlements

Nobody says Columbus was the first to North America anymore
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Re: PUBLISHED!!!! Vikings were in North America by 1021!
This is old news.

I visited Lanse aux Meadows in 1981 in Newfoundland.

They found Viking relics in undisturbed soil from almost 1000 years ago.

They created the settlement to mine iron from the local bogs, the same way they create it in Norway and Iceland.

The iron was needed to make nails to help hold their ships together.
 Quoting: Crypto-Tard


Why is this so hard to understand? Yes. Minnesota calls their nfl team the VIKINGS. Because it was a belief. In the United States it’s taught that Portuguese and Spaniards discovered America. It’s NOT TRUE. Ever hear of Columbus Day?


So. Those who believed the tales were right to believe in them. They are now facts.
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Columbus Day celebrates the beginning of the colonization of the new world

The Vikings did not colonize North America.. they had non-permanent settlements

Nobody says Columbus was the first to North America anymore
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You have to find North America on a real map before I declare that anyone has found it yet.
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Apparently, there are facts that people believe in that visit GLP and then there are facts the rest of the world believe.

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And here we have an article from a very msm that more Americans will believe than GLP.

[link to time.com (secure)]


Fact for 30 years? Bullshit. This is 3 months old.
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There was a story about a Viking sword found in Minnesota but no one can prove it was left there by Vikings and not some European collector losing it.
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Check out the Kensington Runestone found in Minnesota. It's runes tell a tale of Norsemen fleeing west for their lives. Their shipmates were killed and their ships set fire by Natives.

Lewis and Clark spent their first winter on the upper Missouri river with the Mandan Indians. Amongst the natives were redhair and blue eyes. The winter shelters the Mandans used and built look like longhouses the Norse built.

There is yet another tale of a group that came into Minnesota from Hudson bay to the north, in search of signs of an earlier group that had left piles of rocks as land claim markers. That story even more obscure. The Sinclairs and the Knights Templar come into play here too, after the crusades.
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Re: PUBLISHED!!!! Vikings were in North America by 1021!
This is old news.

I visited Lanse aux Meadows in 1981 in Newfoundland.

They found Viking relics in undisturbed soil from almost 1000 years ago.

They created the settlement to mine iron from the local bogs, the same way they create it in Norway and Iceland.

The iron was needed to make nails to help hold their ships together.
 Quoting: Crypto-Tard


Why is this so hard to understand? Yes. Minnesota calls their nfl team the VIKINGS. Because it was a belief. In the United States it’s taught that Portuguese and Spaniards discovered America. It’s NOT TRUE. Ever hear of Columbus Day?


So. Those who believed the tales were right to believe in them. They are now facts.
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Columbus Day celebrates the beginning of the colonization of the new world

The Vikings did not colonize North America.. they had non-permanent settlements

Nobody says Columbus was the first to North America anymore
 Quoting: SleepyJoe&theHoe


Obviously. It was still taught 50 years ago to people still alive. And it’s not because of colonization, it’s the establishment of new trade routes.
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There was a story about a Viking sword found in Minnesota but no one can prove it was left there by Vikings and not some European collector losing it.
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Check out the Kensington Runestone found in Minnesota. It's runes tell a tale of Norsemen fleeing west for their lives. Their shipmates were killed and their ships set fire by Natives.

Lewis and Clark spent their first winter on the upper Missouri river with the Mandan Indians. Amongst the natives were redhair and blue eyes. The winter shelters the Mandans used and built look like longhouses the Norse built.

There is yet another tale of a group that came into Minnesota from Hudson bay to the north, in search of signs of an earlier group that had left piles of rocks as land claim markers. That story even more obscure. The Sinclairs and the Knights Templar come into play here too, after the crusades.
 Quoting: Fat Freddy's Cat


It gets crazier. Been found as far as east as Oklahoma.
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Apparently, there are facts that people believe in that visit GLP and then there are facts the rest of the world believe.

[link to time.com (secure)]


And here we have an article from a very msm that more Americans will believe than GLP.

[link to time.com (secure)]


Fact for 30 years? Bullshit. This is 3 months old.
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Time magazine? Might as well Post New York times articles too

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