Most PhD students just do fake research and fake their results | |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78975012 Canada 10/15/2021 11:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just went through this....3 professors stole the masters students work for a paper nobody gives a shit about. Then won't even help me get into a PhD lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73641815 It's just how their system works. It's all fraud.. and for what? For nothing. Just to feed their childish egos. Everything is fake in this society. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4812794 United States 10/15/2021 11:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was in an engineering grad program and noticed that most PhD students were absolutely incompetent and were frauds. All they did was fake their results to get grant money. Most of the professors were no different. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78975012 Imagine how bad things are in non-STEM fields? Your tax dollars hard at work. The smell of 'sour grapes' is clear to all.. . |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78975012 Canada 10/16/2021 12:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was in an engineering grad program and noticed that most PhD students were absolutely incompetent and were frauds. All they did was fake their results to get grant money. Most of the professors were no different. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78975012 Imagine how bad things are in non-STEM fields? Your tax dollars hard at work. The smell of 'sour grapes' is clear to all.. . Yes you're right, PhD students are incredibly jealous of intelligent people, which is why they spend years faking research in order to get a paper that says "PhD" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73630176 United States 10/16/2021 12:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was in an engineering grad program and noticed that most PhD students were absolutely incompetent and were frauds. All they did was fake their results to get grant money. Most of the professors were no different. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78975012 Imagine how bad things are in non-STEM fields? Your tax dollars hard at work. The smell of 'sour grapes' is clear to all.. . Yes you're right, PhD students are incredibly jealous of intelligent people, which is why they spend years faking research in order to get a paper that says "PhD" If it was that easy everyone would do it You have no idea what your talking about... Yes HS dropouts are the real intelligent folk |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78975012 Canada 10/16/2021 12:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was in an engineering grad program and noticed that most PhD students were absolutely incompetent and were frauds. All they did was fake their results to get grant money. Most of the professors were no different. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78975012 Imagine how bad things are in non-STEM fields? Your tax dollars hard at work. The smell of 'sour grapes' is clear to all.. . Yes you're right, PhD students are incredibly jealous of intelligent people, which is why they spend years faking research in order to get a paper that says "PhD" If it was that easy everyone would do it You have no idea what your talking about... Yes HS dropouts are the real intelligent folk I just said I was in a grad program and yet you tell me I'm a HS dropout. You can't even read at a 5th grade level. You must have a PhD. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79228559 United States 10/16/2021 12:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was in an engineering grad program and noticed that most PhD students were absolutely incompetent and were frauds. All they did was fake their results to get grant money. Most of the professors were no different. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78975012 Imagine how bad things are in non-STEM fields? Your tax dollars hard at work. Try again, chief. The analysis done on these data sets can be replicated, and if you knew anything about it, you'd know that "faked" data can be detected by a variety of means. The only way data can guaranteed to pass scrutiny is if the grad student knows more stats than the reviewer. So basically, anyone doing this is risking having their entire career destroyed if someone happens to re-analyze their data. I'll grant you that a lot of dissertation topics are BS, but BS is different from faked data. |
Glaxnor
User ID: 78263873 Germany 10/16/2021 12:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just went through this....3 professors stole the masters students work for a paper nobody gives a shit about. Then won't even help me get into a PhD lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73641815 It's just how their system works. It's all fraud.. and for what? For nothing. Just to feed their childish egos. Everything is fake in this society. Been there, done that. Got out of the corrupt crap. Empty Men offer Empty Words and Empty Hearts. |
above/below
User ID: 76209865 United States 10/16/2021 12:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was in an engineering grad program and noticed that most PhD students were absolutely incompetent and were frauds. All they did was fake their results to get grant money. Most of the professors were no different. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78975012 Imagine how bad things are in non-STEM fields? Your tax dollars hard at work. Try again, chief. The analysis done on these data sets can be replicated, and if you knew anything about it, you'd know that "faked" data can be detected by a variety of means. The only way data can guaranteed to pass scrutiny is if the grad student knows more stats than the reviewer. So basically, anyone doing this is risking having their entire career destroyed if someone happens to re-analyze their data. I'll grant you that a lot of dissertation topics are BS, but BS is different from faked data. lol we found a faker! above/below |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78975012 Canada 10/16/2021 12:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was in an engineering grad program and noticed that most PhD students were absolutely incompetent and were frauds. All they did was fake their results to get grant money. Most of the professors were no different. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78975012 Imagine how bad things are in non-STEM fields? Your tax dollars hard at work. Try again, chief. The analysis done on these data sets can be replicated, and if you knew anything about it, you'd know that "faked" data can be detected by a variety of means. The only way data can guaranteed to pass scrutiny is if the grad student knows more stats than the reviewer. So basically, anyone doing this is risking having their entire career destroyed if someone happens to re-analyze their data. I'll grant you that a lot of dissertation topics are BS, but BS is different from faked data. The problem is that all the "peer reviewers" are just as corrupt as the people faking the data. It's all political in the end, so as long as the research has certain buzzwords and the student fits a certain demographic, they will say it's legitimate and give the grant money. You know how I know? I saw it with my own two eyes. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78975012 Canada 10/16/2021 12:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You just need to be from a wealthy white liberal family, or you need to be a person of color and/or identify as female/bi/trans. Get accepted into any public university and make friends with the communist professors (the majority of professors today). That's it, you're in. |
Turd Ferguson, Jr.
User ID: 51522520 United States 10/16/2021 12:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was in an engineering grad program and noticed that most PhD students were absolutely incompetent and were frauds. All they did was fake their results to get grant money. Most of the professors were no different. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78975012 Imagine how bad things are in non-STEM fields? Your tax dollars hard at work. So you're saying all the STEM fields are becoming like psychology? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78975012 Canada 10/16/2021 12:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was in an engineering grad program and noticed that most PhD students were absolutely incompetent and were frauds. All they did was fake their results to get grant money. Most of the professors were no different. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78975012 Imagine how bad things are in non-STEM fields? Your tax dollars hard at work. So you're saying all the STEM fields are becoming like psychology? Precisely. Where do you think the government gets all these BS research studies that support their COVID lies? From universities, duh. |
Glaxnor
User ID: 78263873 Germany 10/16/2021 12:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was in an engineering grad program and noticed that most PhD students were absolutely incompetent and were frauds. All they did was fake their results to get grant money. Most of the professors were no different. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78975012 Imagine how bad things are in non-STEM fields? Your tax dollars hard at work. Try again, chief. The analysis done on these data sets can be replicated, and if you knew anything about it, you'd know that "faked" data can be detected by a variety of means. The only way data can guaranteed to pass scrutiny is if the grad student knows more stats than the reviewer. So basically, anyone doing this is risking having their entire career destroyed if someone happens to re-analyze their data. I'll grant you that a lot of dissertation topics are BS, but BS is different from faked data. The problem is that all the "peer reviewers" are just as corrupt as the people faking the data. It's all political in the end, so as long as the research has certain buzzwords and the student fits a certain demographic, they will say it's legitimate and give the grant money. You know how I know? I saw it with my own two eyes. One of my professors was/is a brilliant structural engineer; but they got no where. Mostly because they believed it was an engineers responsibility to ensure people's safety. Research has been political my whole life. Empty Men offer Empty Words and Empty Hearts. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79144269 United States 10/16/2021 12:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just went through this....3 professors stole the masters students work for a paper nobody gives a shit about. Then won't even help me get into a PhD lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73641815 It's just how their system works. It's all fraud.. and for what? For nothing. Just to feed their childish egos. Everything is fake in this society. It's so anything real is drawn out of it. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78975012 Canada 10/16/2021 12:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was in an engineering grad program and noticed that most PhD students were absolutely incompetent and were frauds. All they did was fake their results to get grant money. Most of the professors were no different. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78975012 Imagine how bad things are in non-STEM fields? Your tax dollars hard at work. Try again, chief. The analysis done on these data sets can be replicated, and if you knew anything about it, you'd know that "faked" data can be detected by a variety of means. The only way data can guaranteed to pass scrutiny is if the grad student knows more stats than the reviewer. So basically, anyone doing this is risking having their entire career destroyed if someone happens to re-analyze their data. I'll grant you that a lot of dissertation topics are BS, but BS is different from faked data. The problem is that all the "peer reviewers" are just as corrupt as the people faking the data. It's all political in the end, so as long as the research has certain buzzwords and the student fits a certain demographic, they will say it's legitimate and give the grant money. You know how I know? I saw it with my own two eyes. One of my professors was/is a brilliant structural engineer; but they got no where. Mostly because they believed it was an engineers responsibility to ensure people's safety. Research has been political my whole life. Funny how that works, isn't it? The intelligent and capable ones are always ignored, except for when they get their research stolen. Not everything the frauds write about in their papers is fraudulent. Sometimes there are chunks of real research in there to prop up the rest of the BS in there. The thing is, those chunks of legitimate research are stolen from bright people like the person you mentioned. This sort of behavior has come to dominate industry as well. The people who have connections get the raise and promotion, and take the credit for other people's work. Where do you think they learned that sort of behavior is acceptable? In public university. |
Turd Ferguson, Jr.
User ID: 51522520 United States 10/16/2021 12:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was in an engineering grad program and noticed that most PhD students were absolutely incompetent and were frauds. All they did was fake their results to get grant money. Most of the professors were no different. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78975012 Imagine how bad things are in non-STEM fields? Your tax dollars hard at work. Try again, chief. The analysis done on these data sets can be replicated, and if you knew anything about it, you'd know that "faked" data can be detected by a variety of means. The only way data can guaranteed to pass scrutiny is if the grad student knows more stats than the reviewer. So basically, anyone doing this is risking having their entire career destroyed if someone happens to re-analyze their data. I'll grant you that a lot of dissertation topics are BS, but BS is different from faked data. So why did no one detect all the fake data in the research done by Purdue Pharmaceuticals showing that Oxycontin had a low propensity for abuse and addiction? That's the Mt. Everest of scientific failures in my generation. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78975012 Canada 10/16/2021 12:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was in an engineering grad program and noticed that most PhD students were absolutely incompetent and were frauds. All they did was fake their results to get grant money. Most of the professors were no different. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78975012 Imagine how bad things are in non-STEM fields? Your tax dollars hard at work. Try again, chief. The analysis done on these data sets can be replicated, and if you knew anything about it, you'd know that "faked" data can be detected by a variety of means. The only way data can guaranteed to pass scrutiny is if the grad student knows more stats than the reviewer. So basically, anyone doing this is risking having their entire career destroyed if someone happens to re-analyze their data. I'll grant you that a lot of dissertation topics are BS, but BS is different from faked data. So why did no one detect all the fake data in the research done by Purdue Pharmaceuticals showing that Oxycontin had a low propensity for abuse and addiction? That's the Mt. Everest of scientific failures in my generation. Where does the gov get its fake and fraudulent research for global warming? COVID-19? Vaccines? The list goes on and on... It's all from universities. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78427319 Hong Kong 10/16/2021 12:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Degrees are a barrier in anything. It doesn't define intellect, logic, or reasoning of an individual. It simply states you paid enough to regurgitate the information they crammed down your throat. Here is your piece of paper. That said, I work for one of the most prestigious companies this country has ever known. My life skills and talents, exceed most people that hold multiple degrees, yet I am limited in mobility. One day, I decided to fudge the results in a way that reflected my true talent, and it has been the greatest opportunity for the last two decades. The paper is the barrier, it doesn't grade upon skillset, only that you hold it. Much like the shot. You are no longer employed based upon your knowledge or skill, but whether you shot up. Same fucking barrier of nonsense. If you are talented, you will produce or get fired. Fuck em. If they want to game the system, then all's fair in love and war. GAME THE SYSTEM. Your livelihood depends on it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74110416 United States 10/16/2021 12:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was in an engineering grad program and noticed that most PhD students were absolutely incompetent and were frauds. All they did was fake their results to get grant money. Most of the professors were no different. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78975012 Imagine how bad things are in non-STEM fields? Your tax dollars hard at work. Try again, chief. The analysis done on these data sets can be replicated, and if you knew anything about it, you'd know that "faked" data can be detected by a variety of means. The only way data can guaranteed to pass scrutiny is if the grad student knows more stats than the reviewer. So basically, anyone doing this is risking having their entire career destroyed if someone happens to re-analyze their data. I'll grant you that a lot of dissertation topics are BS, but BS is different from faked data. So why did no one detect all the fake data in the research done by Purdue Pharmaceuticals showing that Oxycontin had a low propensity for abuse and addiction? That's the Mt. Everest of scientific failures in my generation. Where does the gov get its fake and fraudulent research for global warming? COVID-19? Vaccines? The list goes on and on... It's all from universities. Quite the scam they be runnin! Get ejumucated with papers you be stunning;) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74110416 United States 10/16/2021 12:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Degrees are a barrier in anything. It doesn't define intellect, logic, or reasoning of an individual. It simply states you paid enough to regurgitate the information they crammed down your throat. Here is your piece of paper. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78427319 That said, I work for one of the most prestigious companies this country has ever known. My life skills and talents, exceed most people that hold multiple degrees, yet I am limited in mobility. One day, I decided to fudge the results in a way that reflected my true talent, and it has been the greatest opportunity for the last two decades. The paper is the barrier, it doesn't grade upon skillset, only that you hold it. Much like the shot. You are no longer employed based upon your knowledge or skill, but whether you shot up. Same fucking barrier of nonsense. If you are talented, you will produce or get fired. Fuck em. If they want to game the system, then all's fair in love and war. GAME THE SYSTEM. Your livelihood depends on it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80643549 United States 10/16/2021 01:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every department and every university is different. Here's why I was denied the Ph.D.: "You are overly confident and too opinionated. Women who demand the right to their own opinion end up in a place colder than Siberia." And a lot else. All ad hominem garbage. I did not sue but complained to the Board and nearly all were fired or retired. Big deal. My life was destroyed. I never found out why because they were all under gag orders. My ex-husband was denied the Ph.D. because his research negated long held findings. He won the right to redo everything and proved them all wrong. He was a bona fide genius, though, which I am not. I kept studying to avoid having to teach high school. |
TSPNS
User ID: 2154157 United States 10/16/2021 01:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was in an engineering grad program and noticed that most PhD students were absolutely incompetent and were frauds. All they did was fake their results to get grant money. Most of the professors were no different. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78975012 Imagine how bad things are in non-STEM fields? Your tax dollars hard at work. Lust for power exposes the slave. Lord, protect me from my friends; I can take care of my enemies. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78975012 Canada 10/16/2021 01:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was in an engineering grad program and noticed that most PhD students were absolutely incompetent and were frauds. All they did was fake their results to get grant money. Most of the professors were no different. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78975012 Imagine how bad things are in non-STEM fields? Your tax dollars hard at work. :doublefacepalm: Willing to bet anything my IQ is higher than yours. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74939805 United States 10/16/2021 02:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not a PHD student but a scientist who does work with them often. Approaching 20 years experience. I have no idea where you went to school but this is not how it’s ever worked in my experience. Yes projects do not always turn out the way one might expect but this is part of the process. However, at no time have I personally experienced what you claim. I’ve heard of what you claim on a few rare occasions and these people were failed. In my field research projects of the level that a PHD is expected to produce are reviewed by their fellow students, professors, and professionals like myself. It is close to impossible for fraudulent work to be passed off as a legitimate accomplishment. There is no possibility a professor would allow it to be published. I’m not saying you did not experience this; I am, however, saying for you to speak as if it is common practice makes me question the institution you attended, the field you worked in, and the amount of experience you have. |