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I thought that i make a thread about that topic.
It seems it could get hot in the border region of Serbia and Kosovo, northern Kosovo region is ethnic Serbian.

Tensions rising at least since two weeks ago.
Could this escalate?

There was a thread today from someome else.
But no one seemed to be interessed.

I don't understand the language.
So if anyone could translate a bit would be very nice.

Any GLP'er in this region maybe?
For instant update on that topic?

Thanks in advance.

Here some videos from today. ( as stated by upload date )

A short news report



Serbian militia, in the north of Kosovo mobilized?

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just today i was watching some news, from Serbian perspective

they're saying how the Kosovo police is abusing them and trying to take the lands where these few remaining Serbs are living in the North of the country

because there was a raid today from the Kosovo police against criminals in that part of the state, where they searched for illegal activities, drugs, illegal guns etc., the Serbian people are saying, how fucking dare you and that they'd like to incite a war

while the Kosovarians are saying they're just fighting against crime

the first victim of every was is truth like usually
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Kosovo police, special forces etc.*
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the Serbian people/Government/President are saying, how fucking dare you and that they'd like to incite a war
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just today i was watching some news, from Serbian perspective

they're saying how the Kosovo police is abusing them and trying to take the lands where these few remaining Serbs are living in the North of the country

because there was a raid today from the Kosovo police against criminals in that part of the state, where they searched for illegal activities, drugs, illegal guns etc., the Serbian people are saying, how fucking dare you and that they'd like to incite a war

while the Kosovarians are saying they're just fighting against crime

the first victim of every was is truth like usually
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Thank you.

Yes,like you said, both sides have their versions.
It's just stupid.Why they again mixed these 2 countries?

Like they didn't know about that.
It was logic that this will make problems.
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just today i was watching some news, from Serbian perspective

they're saying how the Kosovo police is abusing them and trying to take the lands where these few remaining Serbs are living in the North of the country

because there was a raid today from the Kosovo police against criminals in that part of the state, where they searched for illegal activities, drugs, illegal guns etc., the Serbian people are saying, how fucking dare you and that they'd like to incite a war

while the Kosovarians are saying they're just fighting against crime

the first victim of every war is truth like usually
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79860155


Thank you.

Yes,like you said, both sides have their versions.
It's just stupid.Why they again mixed these 2 countries?

Like they didn't know about that.
It was logic that this will make problems.
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the whole issue in this thing is, that there were various agreements between the two sides, where the Kosovo side promised to the Serbian authorities and the people there that where the remaining Serbs are living, the Kosovarians obliged to fulfill the deal to create "AUTONOMOUS COUNTIES" where Serbs would have their administration, rules, laws etc.

while the Kosovo Prime Minister is saying today, years later after the agreement, that he doesn't plan to further, ETHNICALLY DIVIDE the country and give the Serbs what they agreed to

so this thing will go on forever, one side has to buckle as you know, hope i explained it to you what's the biggest, current contention in the relationships
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Albert Pikes war getting started as planned. Muslims against Christians.
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just today i was watching some news, from Serbian perspective

they're saying how the Kosovo police is abusing them and trying to take the lands where these few remaining Serbs are living in the North of the country

because there was a raid today from the Kosovo police against criminals in that part of the state, where they searched for illegal activities, drugs, illegal guns etc., the Serbian people are saying, how fucking dare you and that they'd like to incite a war

while the Kosovarians are saying they're just fighting against crime

the first victim of every war is truth like usually
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79860155


Thank you.

Yes,like you said, both sides have their versions.
It's just stupid.Why they again mixed these 2 countries?

Like they didn't know about that.
It was logic that this will make problems.
 Quoting: lol79


the whole issue in this thing is, that there were various agreements between the two sides, where the Kosovo side promised to the Serbian authorities and the people there that where the remaining Serbs are living, the Kosovarians obliged to fulfill the deal to create "AUTONOMOUS COUNTIES" where Serbs would have their administration, rules, laws etc.

while the Kosovo Prime Minister is saying today, years later after the agreement, that he doesn't plan to further, ETHNICALLY DIVIDE the country and give the Serbs what they agreed to

so this thing will go on forever, one side has to buckle as you know, hope i explained it to you what's the biggest, current contention in the relationships
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77006878


Thank you for your well explanations.

I agree, it seems to be very complicated.
I just don't get it, why they did not made the border a few miles down south?
Would surely helped a lot to avoid such tensions.

Like tptb ( i don't talk about Kosovo or Serbian government), wanted to be sure to still have a powder keg down there.
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This is allready more than a week old.

Short Sinopsis:

Serbia made an ultimatum to Kosovo to stop threatening the serbian minority.

Serbian president actually called it a pogrom.

Serbian army units in border region are in high readyness since then.

It was a dispute over licence plates ( and other things
of corse ) , that heating things up.



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I am absolutely no expert, but this could go wrong again down there. ( hope not! )
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who gives a shit?

yes, i came here just to write that down. I'll do it twice.

who gives a shit?
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who gives a shit?

yes, i came here just to write that down. I'll do it twice.

who gives a shit?
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Me, I do.
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who gives a shit?

yes, i came here just to write that down. I'll do it twice.

who gives a shit?
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I don't care if you give a shit, i really don't.

For the Balkans and some european countries this would be really not good.

Because after the last Balkan wars millions have fled to western european countries.

Especially in Germany, Austria and Switzerland we have big
communities of every ethnic group that lives on the Balkans.

So count 1 and 1 together.
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yes, i came here just to write that down. I'll do it twice.

who gives a shit?
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Everyone cares, you will too but you dont realize it
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who gives a shit?

yes, i came here just to write that down. I'll do it twice.

who gives a shit?
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Everyone cares, you will too but you dont realize it
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I care too
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oh well...for all those who care, get some tissue.

i don't give a shit about groups and their wars.
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who gives a shit?

yes, i came here just to write that down. I'll do it twice.

who gives a shit?
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I don't care if you give a shit, i really don't.

For the Balkans and some european countries this would be really not good.

Because after the last Balkan wars millions have fled to western european countries.

Especially in Germany, Austria and Switzerland we have big
communities of every ethnic group that lives on the Balkans.

So count 1 and 1 together.
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No you don't. You def don't have a big Slovenian community in any of those countries you named. Slovenians are not an immigrant nation, never were..
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who gives a shit?

yes, i came here just to write that down. I'll do it twice.

who gives a shit?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17083092


I don't care if you give a shit, i really don't.

For the Balkans and some european countries this would be really not good.

Because after the last Balkan wars millions have fled to western european countries.

Especially in Germany, Austria and Switzerland we have big
communities of every ethnic group that lives on the Balkans.

So count 1 and 1 together.
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No you don't. You def don't have a big Slovenian community in any of those countries you named. Slovenians are not an immigrant nation, never were..
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don't know if you ever heard, but Slovenia is geographically not in the Balkans, so it shouldn't bother you, but culturally it is
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Seems like it's just police cracking down on protesters at least that's how they're projecting it
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This is,in my opinion a stunning documentary of the first Balkan wars.

It came to my mind again.

I watched it aprox 13 years ago, in german.
But it is a co production so i found it also in english.

It has 6 parts.

For,those who are interessed in geopolitically history.

I make a clear statement.

I am originated Swiss.

I have no opinion about this because i don't know shit about it, and i wasn't there.

The only thing i can say about, war sucks!

This is only for objected people intressed in history.
I don't know what is true and what is not.
I will not discuss this documemtary.

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They'll always be in a war state as long as you have unresolved ethnic issues in the region.

To have a qualified opinion about the situation there, you need to be well informed about both sides of the problem, not only seeing the "serbian perspective". If you dig deeper you're gonna see that serbs play the crying wolf very well.
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who gives a shit?

yes, i came here just to write that down. I'll do it twice.

who gives a shit?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17083092


I don't care if you give a shit, i really don't.

For the Balkans and some european countries this would be really not good.

Because after the last Balkan wars millions have fled to western european countries.

Especially in Germany, Austria and Switzerland we have big
communities of every ethnic group that lives on the Balkans.

So count 1 and 1 together.
 Quoting: lol79


No you don't. You def don't have a big Slovenian community in any of those countries you named. Slovenians are not an immigrant nation, never were..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76192420


don't know if you ever heard, but Slovenia is geographically not in the Balkans, so it shouldn't bother you, but culturally it is
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80144013


Geographically it is in Balkans, culturally not at all. Slovenians nurture German culture and are very proud of it. Most of Slovenians despise Balkans and anything related to it. Its not a coincidence that Slovenians started the break up in first place.
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They'll always be in a war state as long as you have unresolved ethnic issues in the region.

To have a qualified opinion about the situation there, you need to be well informed about both sides of the problem, not only seeing the "serbian perspective". If you dig deeper you're gonna see that serbs play the crying wolf very well.
 Quoting: Miri2019


This is exactly why i posted the documemtary.
Every one who was part of it, have their voices in this documentary.

I know it's old stuff. But the actual problems are well reflected.

Still i don't have a politicial or historical opinion about it.
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Serbs are known hypocrites, today they claim that they fought against the Ottoman invasion of Europe back in the day, through centuries, while they were 500 years conquered by the same Ottomans and were their cannon fodder, the Serbs are Orthodox people, like the Greeks, Russians etc., and the Orthodox people had their version of Pope, a Patriarch in the capital city of Ottoman Emmpire, ex-Constantinopole, modern day Istanbule, so just here you can see how the Orthodox people were spared by the Turkish rulers while the Catholics were massively persecuted, heads were chopped off, forced marriage, Catholic Churches destroyed and on their own foundations Orthodox monasteries were being built

this is a general references to the history

another point i'd like to say is that, Serbs today are saying how back in the day, modern days Kosovo, the disputed territories which the topic is about, according to Turkish sources when they arrived and conquered these territories, 90% of the inhabitants there were Orthodox people, at the same time, when the Turks marched North towards the Catholic lands of modern Balkan, concretely modern day country, Bosnia and Herzegovina, by the same Turkish sources was also 90% Catholic nation prior to the Turkish invasion, today that country is mostly Muslim (that's for another discussion), but the Serbs don't take those documents into consideration and today want to assimilate that country as well

you can see my point here, what kind of people we're talking about
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If you want a perspective of somebody who lives in Serbia, and has a bit better understanding than the average citizen of everything that's been happening on Balkans since 1989...

... it's all about the CIA.

CIA started te wars in Yugoslavia in order to divide and conquer this territory.

CIA initiated the U.S. bombing campaign against Serbia in order to either:
a) occupy the one of only two territories in Europe previously not occupied by the CIA (the other one having been UK before CIA installed Boris Johnson over there), or
b) occupy a part of Serbia, in order to create a CIA colony for distribution of Afghani heroin, that part obviously being Kosovo, but northern Serbia (Vojvodina) was also in CIA's (script)play at the time

Ever since 2000 (especially since 2004), Serbia has been infiltrated and occupied by the CIA at the highest level, and in fact, CIA's station under the U.S. embassy in Belgrade is CIA's HQ for all European operations right now.

Kosovo is also under complete CIA control, so you may be wondering why the CIA seems to be shooting itself in the foot by stirring shit over here.

Well... it just happens that, right now, CIA looks like a bunch of incompetent buffoons who can't control Belgrade, and some Serbs with guns are starting to grow their balls once again, telling the CIA to shove their orders up their asses, and the CIA is forced to make a move
to regain its (now completely lost) influence here... by bluffing their way out of this mess.

The things happening in Kosovo (initiated by the CIA) are a threat to the people in Belgrade, claiming that CIA will wipe Serbs off the face of the Earth, but... since we already know that CIA is actually the power behind the active push for planetary-wide genocide via "vaccinations", such a threat sounds very hollow at this moment.

It could've worked two years ago, perhaps, but right now? Not a chance.

In fact, the CIA itself has much more to lose by provoking another war over here than any Serbian citizen, so as far as I'm concerned -- bring it on!

I'm eagerly waiting for that "civil war" to finally break out over here... where "civil war" will actually be a war against CIA's Syrian (ISIS) mercenaries in Serbia (being trained by the CIA in Serbia since 2015), the outcome of which will be 100% death rate among the CIA staff in Serbia... and upwards of 90% death rate among all U.S. citizens currently visiting Serbia... because they're here only to act as CIA's assets at this point.

Unfortunately... I don't think that CIA's analysts are stupid enough to fall for it, so I do expect things to calm down very shortly.

Then again... we may be lucky, and CIA psychopaths may actually get the final word, and do what all psychos are known to do -- destroy everything they touch... including the CIA itself.
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I thought that i make a thread about that topic.
It seems it could get hot in the border region of Serbia and Kosovo, northern Kosovo region is ethnic Serbian.

Tensions rising at least since two weeks ago.
Could this escalate?

There was a thread today from someome else.
But no one seemed to be interessed.

I don't understand the language.
So if anyone could translate a bit would be very nice.

Any GLP'er in this region maybe?
For instant update on that topic?

Thanks in advance.

Here some videos from today. ( as stated by upload date )

A short news report



Serbian militia, in the north of Kosovo mobilized?


 Quoting: lol79

KOSOVO & METOhIJA IS SERBIA!!!
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This is,in my opinion a stunning documentary of the first Balkan wars.

It came to my mind again.

I watched it aprox 13 years ago, in german.
But it is a co production so i found it also in english.

It has 6 parts.

For,those who are interessed in geopolitically history.

I make a clear statement.

I am originated Swiss.

I have no opinion about this because i don't know shit about it, and i wasn't there.

The only thing i can say about, war sucks!

This is only for objected people intressed in history.
I don't know what is true and what is not.
I will not discuss this documemtary.

Graphic warning!



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 Quoting: lol79


Incredible documentry, haunting.
Remember watching it years ago.
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Serbs are known hypocrites, today they claim that they fought against the Ottoman invasion of Europe back in the day, through centuries, while they were 500 years conquered by the same Ottomans and were their cannon fodder, the Serbs are Orthodox people, like the Greeks, Russians etc., and the Orthodox people had their version of Pope, a Patriarch in the capital city of Ottoman Emmpire, ex-Constantinopole, modern day Istanbule, so just here you can see how the Orthodox people were spared by the Turkish rulers while the Catholics were massively persecuted, heads were chopped off, forced marriage, Catholic Churches destroyed and on their own foundations Orthodox monasteries were being built

this is a general references to the history

another point i'd like to say is that, Serbs today are saying how back in the day, modern days Kosovo, the disputed territories which the topic is about, according to Turkish sources when they arrived and conquered these territories, 90% of the inhabitants there were Orthodox people, at the same time, when the Turks marched North towards the Catholic lands of modern Balkan, concretely modern day country, Bosnia and Herzegovina, by the same Turkish sources was also 90% Catholic nation prior to the Turkish invasion, today that country is mostly Muslim (that's for another discussion), but the Serbs don't take those documents into consideration and today want to assimilate that country as well

you can see my point here, what kind of people we're talking about
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Bosnia is the western part of medieval serbia and Raska the eastern part. In Bosnia there was a religious mix just like today but the people were serbs





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