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For the Long Term and for a Species as a Whole, It's Better to Get Sick than to Rely on External Man Made Cures

 
Hot Dog Harry (The Dude)
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For the Long Term and for a Species as a Whole, It's Better to Get Sick than to Rely on External Man Made Cures
What happens 100 years from now when human beings have relied on science and chemicals to protect themselves from sickness and then the science suddenly ends?

They are trying to blame mankind for destroying the climate with our technologies, so why aren't they blaming mankind for destroying our immune systems with technology too?

Suppose there is a world war, a pole shift, a super-volcano eruption, an asteroid impact, a massive solar flare...

What happens when there aren't any vaccines or technology to find?

You have an entire species whose immune systems won't know what the fuck to do if it encounters a new disease.

The only way to have a strong immune system is to actually get sick. Your body needs to figure out what to do to protect itself.

The original idea for vaccines was to get someone a little bit sick with an illness so that the body will still learn how to fight it without getting fully sick. Seems logical.

But if you invent new technologies to replace what the immune system does, we'll all have to rely on that technology and will become weaker over time.

Where did I learn this? I read the back of a melatonin bottle. It said that you shouldn't take it every night for long periods of time because your body can then become dependent on it for sleep.

It's a very simple concept.

If you depend on a chemical or technology to keep you healthy or to perform a function, you'll eventually become dependent on it.

I don't get sick anymore because I've gotten sick many times and I know simple tricks to help my body get over illnesses.

My immune system learned from every illness I ever got. That's the way it's supposed to work.

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10/09/2021 05:08 PM

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Sorry for the text rant, I just wanted to get that out there.
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Too late now either way.

Even discounting disease everyone is fucked should our current civilization be stoneaged again.

No one knows how to....

Hunt and make traps

Purify water

Forage for edible vegetation

Create natural antibiotics and treatements from whatever is growing around

How to tan leather or make clothing of any kind

Etc....

Todays generation of uneducated fat assed vaxxed up phone addicts would not last more than a week should we suddenly face a carrington even or other ele doom that resets everything to zero.

And on TOP of how useless everyone is in basic survival...

There is STILL disease.

A decade ago I almost died....from a tiny scratch that got infected

Doom comes in all shapes and sizes
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Too late now either way.

Even discounting disease everyone is fucked should our current civilization be stoneaged again.

No one knows how to....

Hunt and make traps

Purify water

Forage for edible vegetation

Create natural antibiotics and treatements from whatever is growing around

How to tan leather or make clothing of any kind

Etc....

Todays generation of uneducated fat assed vaxxed up phone addicts would not last more than a week should we suddenly face a carrington even or other ele doom that resets everything to zero.

And on TOP of how useless everyone is in basic survival...

There is STILL disease.

A decade ago I almost died....from a tiny scratch that got infected

Doom comes in all shapes and sizes
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Sol-tari

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10/09/2021 05:23 PM
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Re: For the Long Term and for a Species as a Whole, It's Better to Get Sick than to Rely on External Man Made Cures
What happens?

Humans life spans would gradually decrease..to 1900 levels...1600...400....

Eliminated diseases would return. Polio, small pox.

Treatable illnesses would become death sentences, Diabetes for example, and with no antibiotics an infection could equal death.

Basically mate, there's a reason governments are having a panic because there's about to be a shit tonne of old people for the first time in recorded human history.

After all humanities time in this environmental system, it still fucks us up on occasion.
Now we're smart enough to understand why, and better yet, kick it back.

That's a good thing
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10/09/2021 05:27 PM

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I so agree.




But it’s too late. We interrupted nature with electricity and modern food production. There’s no competition among the species so we’re not moving forward. This caused us to be overburdened with a lot of mouths. Which led us to compassion. Now we are trying save everybody no matter if they produce or not. And a lot those mouths realize they’re soulless and want to burn the whole planet down. Basically, the opposite of evolution. Stagnation
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I so agree.




But it’s too late. We interrupted nature with electricity and modern food production. There’s no competition among the species so we’re not moving forward. This caused us to be overburdened with a lot of mouths. Which led us to compassion. Now we are trying save everybody no matter if they produce or not. And a lot those mouths realize they’re soulless and want to burn the whole planet down. Basically, the opposite of evolution. Stagnation
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I had a good run for the first few decades of my life... Not sure what's around the corner next though...
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What happens?

Humans life spans would gradually decrease..to 1900 levels...1600...400....

Eliminated diseases would return. Polio, small pox.

Treatable illnesses would become death sentences, Diabetes for example, and with no antibiotics an infection could equal death.

Basically mate, there's a reason governments are having a panic because there's about to be a shit tonne of old people for the first time in recorded human history.

After all humanities time in this environmental system, it still fucks us up on occasion.
Now we're smart enough to understand why, and better yet, kick it back.

That's a good thing
 Quoting: Sol-tari


Yeah, we've weakened ourselves big time. I'd love to go join the Hopi tribe and learn how to get back to nature. I haven't ruled it out...
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10/09/2021 05:45 PM
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What happens?

Humans life spans would gradually decrease..to 1900 levels...1600...400....

Eliminated diseases would return. Polio, small pox.

Treatable illnesses would become death sentences, Diabetes for example, and with no antibiotics an infection could equal death.

Basically mate, there's a reason governments are having a panic because there's about to be a shit tonne of old people for the first time in recorded human history.

After all humanities time in this environmental system, it still fucks us up on occasion.
Now we're smart enough to understand why, and better yet, kick it back.

That's a good thing
 Quoting: Sol-tari


Yeah, we've weakened ourselves big time. I'd love to go join the Hopi tribe and learn how to get back to nature. I haven't ruled it out...
 Quoting: Hot Dog Harry (The Dude)


That's always an option for you.
Seems a good chunk of the species is more interested in visiting other stars.

Oh plenty of other ways to get there, Hopi might even have method or two, and such things should be remembered.

But... you know...also good not to have to worry about Tetnus when you cut yourself on an arrow.
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What happens?

Humans life spans would gradually decrease..to 1900 levels...1600...400....

Eliminated diseases would return. Polio, small pox.

Treatable illnesses would become death sentences, Diabetes for example, and with no antibiotics an infection could equal death.

Basically mate, there's a reason governments are having a panic because there's about to be a shit tonne of old people for the first time in recorded human history.

After all humanities time in this environmental system, it still fucks us up on occasion.
Now we're smart enough to understand why, and better yet, kick it back.

That's a good thing
 Quoting: Sol-tari


Yeah, we've weakened ourselves big time. I'd love to go join the Hopi tribe and learn how to get back to nature. I haven't ruled it out...
 Quoting: Hot Dog Harry (The Dude)


That's always an option for you.
Seems a good chunk of the species is more interested in visiting other stars.

Oh plenty of other ways to get there, Hopi might even have method or two, and such things should be remembered.

But... you know...also good not to have to worry about Tetnus when you cut yourself on an arrow.
 Quoting: Sol-tari


I've got some nice arrow heads from the Iroquois. I think that tribe was a little more aggressive, but they had a good right to be.
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What happens?

Humans life spans would gradually decrease..to 1900 levels...1600...400....

Eliminated diseases would return. Polio, small pox.

Treatable illnesses would become death sentences, Diabetes for example, and with no antibiotics an infection could equal death.

Basically mate, there's a reason governments are having a panic because there's about to be a shit tonne of old people for the first time in recorded human history.

After all humanities time in this environmental system, it still fucks us up on occasion.
Now we're smart enough to understand why, and better yet, kick it back.

That's a good thing
 Quoting: Sol-tari


Yeah, we've weakened ourselves big time. I'd love to go join the Hopi tribe and learn how to get back to nature. I haven't ruled it out...
 Quoting: Hot Dog Harry (The Dude)


That's always an option for you.
Seems a good chunk of the species is more interested in visiting other stars.

Oh plenty of other ways to get there, Hopi might even have method or two, and such things should be remembered.

But... you know...also good not to have to worry about Tetnus when you cut yourself on an arrow.
 Quoting: Sol-tari


I've got some nice arrow heads from the Iroquois. I think that tribe was a little more aggressive, but they had a good right to be.
 Quoting: Hot Dog Harry (The Dude)


Couldn't possible imagine why...

cruise
To the day we can lower the arrows...
At least a little bit
cheers
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Yeah, we've weakened ourselves big time. I'd love to go join the Hopi tribe and learn how to get back to nature. I haven't ruled it out...
 Quoting: Hot Dog Harry (The Dude)


That's always an option for you.
Seems a good chunk of the species is more interested in visiting other stars.

Oh plenty of other ways to get there, Hopi might even have method or two, and such things should be remembered.

But... you know...also good not to have to worry about Tetnus when you cut yourself on an arrow.
 Quoting: Sol-tari


I've got some nice arrow heads from the Iroquois. I think that tribe was a little more aggressive, but they had a good right to be.
 Quoting: Hot Dog Harry (The Dude)


Couldn't possible imagine why...

cruise
To the day we can lower the arrows...
At least a little bit
cheers
 Quoting: Sol-tari


irishcheers





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