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All viruses are pparasites?

 
Blessed Ev

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Very interesting.
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Re: All viruses are pparasites?
Yet, . . .

 Quoting: Wayfaring Stranger


Thanks...
I have not watched the video yet, but i read the description.

And to me it translates to: they are trying to introduce parasites that will, they say, hopefully cause genetic mutations which will help us to fight off these parasites which they're introducing.

Or am i reading it all wrong?

I'll watch the thing later, thank you for sharing.
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Is the Earth Flat?
Do Satellites exist?
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It's all fantasy. Flat Earth - Fantasy. Global Earth - Fantasy.

What we call reality is, at best, a consensual fantasy.

Parasites or viruses? Just complicated explanations for generation of a particular flavor of fantasy.
"We are lived by powers we pretend to understand."
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Is the Earth Flat?
Do Satellites exist?
 Quoting: above/below


It's all fantasy. Flat Earth - Fantasy. Global Earth - Fantasy.

What we call reality is, at best, a consensual fantasy.

Parasites or viruses? Just complicated explanations for generation of a particular flavor of fantasy.
 Quoting: All My Hemispheres


I guess what i'm suggesting is that we would all know this, we would all be aware that it's all fantasy, had we not, say for example, lost our ability to synthesize ascorbate.

I'm suggesting that it was parasites what caused us to lose this ability, or "turn it off", as they say, a very long time ago.

I'm wondering if we can turn it back on, and what would happen if we did.

Or is all of that stuff also fantasy?

Where do we draw the line between fantasy and not fantasy?
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Is the Earth Flat?
Do Satellites exist?
 Quoting: above/below


It's all fantasy. Flat Earth - Fantasy. Global Earth - Fantasy.

What we call reality is, at best, a consensual fantasy.

Parasites or viruses? Just complicated explanations for generation of a particular flavor of fantasy.
 Quoting: All My Hemispheres


I guess what i'm suggesting is that we would all know this, we would all be aware that it's all fantasy, had we not, say for example, lost our ability to synthesize ascorbate.

I'm suggesting that it was parasites what caused us to lose this ability, or "turn it off", as they say, a very long time ago.

I'm wondering if we can turn it back on, and what would happen if we did.

Or is all of that stuff also fantasy?

Where do we draw the line between fantasy and not fantasy?
 Quoting: SallyValentine

As soon as the first people, (made from the DUST), ate the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge, the story says...they began to die. To return to the DUST. (Maybe this is the point where the ability to synthesize ascorbate was shut off?)

For their punishment, they were cursed with death and struggle.

As for the serpent who beguiled them, his punishment was to crawl on his belly and eat the DUST.

Just a thought.
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Parasites are the cause for all diseases.

The Cure For All Diseases: [link to nutesla.com (secure)]
BLACK who the
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Parasites are the cause for all diseases.

The Cure For All Diseases: [link to nutesla.com (secure)]
 Quoting: who the


Wow, thanks!
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Is the Earth Flat?
Do Satellites exist?
 Quoting: above/below


It's all fantasy. Flat Earth - Fantasy. Global Earth - Fantasy.

What we call reality is, at best, a consensual fantasy.

Parasites or viruses? Just complicated explanations for generation of a particular flavor of fantasy.
 Quoting: All My Hemispheres


I guess what i'm suggesting is that we would all know this, we would all be aware that it's all fantasy, had we not, say for example, lost our ability to synthesize ascorbate.

I'm suggesting that it was parasites what caused us to lose this ability, or "turn it off", as they say, a very long time ago.

I'm wondering if we can turn it back on, and what would happen if we did.

Or is all of that stuff also fantasy?

Where do we draw the line between fantasy and not fantasy?
 Quoting: SallyValentine

As soon as the first people, (made from the DUST), ate the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge, the story says...they began to die. To return to the DUST. (Maybe this is the point where the ability to synthesize ascorbate was shut off?)

For their punishment, they were cursed with death and struggle.

As for the serpent who beguiled them, his punishment was to crawl on his belly and eat the DUST.

Just a thought.
 Quoting: BiblioPhile


I'm having the same thoughts.
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I'm noticing lately that what used to be considered "fringe" information, known only by a small handful of people, has become much more widely discussed. It's like people's eyes are slowly beginning to open about this subject, (and others).

A very good book to read is "Parasite Rex: Inside the Bizarre World of Nature's Most Dangerous Creatures," by Carl Zimmer. It will shock a lot of people to learn what these things can do - and what they really are.

If a person is well-versed in Scriptures and in Mythology, they will not fail to see the similarities between these creatures and the gods/goddesses, serpents and dragons of Lore, when reading this book.

Here is a link to the author's website discussing the book. I was able to read it for free I think on Kindle or some other site, so it should be findable in pdf.

The author has other books which I can't wait to get my hands on to read as well.

[link to carlzimmer.com (secure)]
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The 4 season's are equipped with just the right stuff quarterly to ward them off.

Each season prepares your body for the next. Its lifes recipe

Even if you rid them, they hatch every 3 months or maybe its 6..hmm have to check on that
 Quoting: FeelGood


I thought it was every new and full moon that you kill off the parasites.
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I'm noticing lately that what used to be considered "fringe" information, known only by a small handful of people, has become much more widely discussed. It's like people's eyes are slowly beginning to open about this subject, (and others).

A very good book to read is "Parasite Rex: Inside the Bizarre World of Nature's Most Dangerous Creatures," by Carl Zimmer. It will shock a lot of people to learn what these things can do - and what they really are.

If a person is well-versed in Scriptures and in Mythology, they will not fail to see the similarities between these creatures and the gods/goddesses, serpents and dragons of Lore, when reading this book.

Here is a link to the author's website discussing the book. I was able to read it for free I think on Kindle or some other site, so it should be findable in pdf.

The author has other books which I can't wait to get my hands on to read as well.

[link to carlzimmer.com (secure)]
 Quoting: BiblioPhile


Thanks, that's heavy.

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The 4 season's are equipped with just the right stuff quarterly to ward them off.

Each season prepares your body for the next. Its lifes recipe

Even if you rid them, they hatch every 3 months or maybe its 6..hmm have to check on that
 Quoting: FeelGood


I thought it was every new and full moon that you kill off the parasites.
 Quoting: Tex the Neanderthal


I think thats when they come out of the organs they're tucked into, for mating time, so thats when its a good time to do some kind of treatment to kill them, cuz they're easier targets. When the moon is full, i think i've read, on the equinoxes.
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Re: All viruses are pparasites?
Bump.
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Re: All viruses are pparasites?
I kind of think so as well. From an evolutionary standpoint it would benefit them greatly to evolve to be so small, that they can easily be carried through the air.
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Lyme is supposed to be from a bacteria, but it behaves exactly like a parasite.
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Oil of oregano
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dr. hulda clark...

look her book up
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this
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Lyme is supposed to be from a bacteria, but it behaves exactly like a parasite.
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cured my dog of lyme w antiparasitics
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These circadian rhythms affect all of us. During the full moon, we naturally produce less melatonin and more serotonin, which these pesky pathogens are attracted



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Bump
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These circadian rhythms affect all of us. During the full moon, we naturally produce less melatonin and more serotonin, which these pesky pathogens are attracted



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I'm pretty sure there is a connection between circadian rhythm and ascorbate.

For example, a byproduct of ascorbate synthesis is hydrogen peroxide. So when we humans stopped synthesizing ascorbate, we began producing less hydrogen peroxide. Hydrogen peroxide is related to our circadian rhythm. It's only a small tweak, but maybe its effects are huge.

Also, collagen production is dependent on vitamin c (ascorbate). I think circadian rhythm is effected by collagen.

And parasites are believed to have their own rhythm. If they can turn off the hosts rhythm clock, and if its true that there are more parasitic cells in our bodies than there are our own cells, then we've been fully hacked.
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Re: All viruses are pparasites?
No, they are not living organisms.
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Cancer is a fungus.
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 Quoting: BiblioPhile


That's actually how i fell into the parasite hole.

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No, they are not living organisms.
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They are parts of living organisms, it appears.
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Parasites need a host, aka Brigham Young. Viruses need something to feed from, aka uncle Joe Dracula.
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 Quoting: BiblioPhile


That's actually how i fell into the parasite hole.

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 Quoting: SallyValentine


Which led me to wonder why we need to eat foods that contain copper and zinc to function properly. we don't synthesize it, but we need it, does that make US parasites?

Would we need copper and zinc if we didn't have to fight against parasites?

Then i started to wonder where heavy metals come from.

No plants or animals make them, volcanoes do. Chemical reactions in from magma and rocks.

Then i started to wonder where parasites first came from.

Which led me to the Devil worm.

Found in 2008 in a gold mine in south africa, 3.6 km underground in water that has been trapped in the earth for 6 or 12 thousand years with almost no oxygen and in extreme heat.

What was the devil worm eating all that time? Lithoautotrophs, which translates to "rock eaters".

They named the thing after mephistopheles. I can't find a good picture of it, but some pictures would indicate that it looks like those little black worm things found on masks and on test swabs.

While trying to find a picture, i accidentally found info about this video game that's coming out the day after tomorrow...

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This red-skinned devil has three sets of curving horns atop his brow and three mismatched pairs of wings.

Despite his appearance, Mephistopheles has a body formed of the ashes and brimstone of Hell rather than flesh and blood. He cannot be blinded, dazzled, or deafened, and he is immune to bleed damage, blood drain, critical hits, and precision-based damage. In addition, once per minute when he is hit by a melee or ranged attack, as an immediate action Mephistopheles can cause his body and all of his gear to collapse into ashes while he teleports to any point within 30 feet of his prior position and re-forms, taking no damage from the attack. Within his realm of Caina, he can trigger this power by expending one use of his mythic power and can teleport up to 300 feet, or up to 30 feet even when subject to effects that normally prevent teleportation.

Flattering Inquisitor (Su)
Mephistopheles is unsurpassed at inveigling himself into a creature’s good graces and ferreting out secrets. His discern lies spell-like ability automatically affects all creatures within 30 feet of him, and he does not need to concentrate to know whether a target is lying (although each time a creature tries to lie in this area it can attempt a Will save to negate the effect as normal). Anyone who attempts to lie when responding to a direct question posed by Mephistopheles must succeed at a DC 41 Will save or take 1d3 points of Wisdom drain and be unable to speak for 24 hours (Mephistopheles can end this enforced vow of silence at will as a free action). This is a mind-affecting effect. The save DC is Charisma-based.

Infernal Wings (Su)
Mephistopheles has three pairs of wings, and while the damage caused by all six wings is identical, the additional effect caused by a strike from a wing depends on its nature. A hit from one of his burning wings deals 1d6 additional points of fire damage and the creature struck must succeed at a DC 43 Reflex save or catch fire. A hit from one of his draconic wings deals 2d6 points of bleed damage. A hit from one of his raven wings causes permanent blindness unless the creature struck succeeds at a DC 43 Fortitude save. The save DCs are Constitution-based.

Profane Gift (Su)
As a full-round action, Mephistopheles can grant a willing non-devil a +4 profane bonus to one ability score; this also allows him to communicate telepathically with and use his mind-affecting spell-like abilities on the creature at any distance (even across planar boundaries).

A creature can have only one such gift at a time. The profane gift can be removed with dispel evil or dispel law, or Mephistopheles can remove it as a free action, dealing 3d6 points of Charisma drain to the target (no save). In addition, a creature that accepts a wish from Mephistopheles immediately becomes lawful evil (Will DC 41 negates) and gains the benefits of good hope for 1 week, followed by the effects of crushing despair for 1d6 months (CL 30th). The save DC is Charisma-based.

ECOLOGY

Environment any (Hell)
Organization solitary (unique)
Treasure triple (+5 axiomatic flaming unholy trident, Visineir, other treasure)

Mephistopheles was formed by Asmodeus from the ashes and hellfire of the plane of Hell itself. He is an artist of flattery and guile, a master of the infernal contract, and a warden of the chained prison plane of Caina. He is tireless in his hunt for new souls, and constantly seeks to lure mortals into signing theirs away in all manner of complex bargains and contracts.

Mephistopheles appears as a muscular, 12-foot-tall, red-skinned humanoid.

Visineir (Major Artifact)
Slot none; CL 30th; Weight 1 lb.; Aura overwhelming all

This adamantine quill pen is the greatest weapon Mephistopheles has in the corruption of souls. As a full-round action that does not provoke attacks of opportunity, he can use it to inscribe a magic circle against good (or chaos), place a mark of justice, or pen an infernal contract. These contracts can grant any number of boons, but typically do so in the form of a wish spell or the devilbound template.

Visineir can be wielded as a +1 adamantine keen wounding dagger, but Mephistopheles rarely does so, preferring his trident in battle. The quill can store a sample of blood from every creature it strikes, storing up to 33 blood samples at a time. The quill gains the bane special ability against any creature whose blood it stores, and it marks the target as if Mephistopheles had used a witch’s scar hex on it, allowing him to use his spell-like abilities on that creature with a range of 1 mile (or with unlimited range, if the creature is in Caina). Mephistopheles can expend one stored blood sample as a full-round action to inscribe a symbol spell of any type he wishes, or to call the creature to him as if he had cast greater planar binding (regardless of the creature’s actual type—this is not limited to calling outsiders).

DESTRUCTION

If Visineir is used to pen a contract that results in Asmodeus having to void the creation of Mephistopheles, the quill crumbles away to ashes, as does Mephistopheles himself.

Mephistopheles’s Cult
Mephistopheles is worshiped by dishonest merchants, crooked politicians, decadent nobles, and cruel tyrants.

His sacred places are almost always within large cities, often buried in hidden rooms beneath prisons, palaces, or courts of law, or in secret apartments of corrupt nobles.

His unholy symbol is a diagonal scarlet trident piercing a golden halo. His favored weapon is the trident.

He grants access to the Evil, Knowledge, Law, and Rune domains, and to the Devil, Language, Memory, and Thought subdomains.

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