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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80942288 United States 10/02/2021 08:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the proper concept of surrender is not that which is used today.. to mean one entity or person or government wins at the expense of the other which is forced to "surrender" in the traditional use of the word ... study the examples in the post above that starts this thread and ponder them.. and then if you wish post your thoughts in this thread.. Its a topic facing our REAL world we are building and essential to comprehend. I have long as I prepare my own future mission how I will handle large issues on this world.. and they all come under surrender in its real meaning.. every one I have considered. And I see the usual small minded one star already. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80942288 United States 10/02/2021 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to abundanthope.net] Seraphin Message 464: THE IMPORTANCE OF SURRENDER TO DIVINE TIMING Through Rosie, 2nd October 2021 As an addendum to the previous message on surrender, we would like to further address an important aspect which has not yet been covered enough, and this is the concept of DIVINE TIMING. It is actually not a concept at all. IT IS REALITY. YOUR LIVES ARE DIVINELY GUIDED. THE QUESTION IS: DO YOU REALISE THIS? DO YOU SURRENDER TO THIS DIVINE GUIDANCE? Do you find time to sit in quiet mediation, clear your mind and ask the divine core within yourself for advice? And if something unpleasant or disappointing occurs, blocking your most favoured path, shattering your dreams and leaving you reeling in shock, can you accept that such obstacles are also the actions of DIVINE HAND in an attempt to stop you moving towards disaster, or to encourage you to move in a direction more worthy? Are barriers actually a sign of assistance? Can you SURRENDER to the fact that this is not the right time, or perhaps the right place, to do what you had planned? This all ties in with the fact that you all have a specific task to fulfil on earth – a task which was discussed and decided upon previous to your incarnation here. You are always being assisted by unseen guides (which are REPRESENTATIVES OF THE DIVINE, working for the DIVINE) in order to fulfil that mandate. They are the ones who place the obstacles, the ideas and the opportunities. This turns life into an adventure. The smallest or the largest occurrence could be a sign pointing you in the DIVINE DIRECTION. It is up to you to SUCCUMB AND SURRENDER to this Divine guidance in order to live a truly fulfilling and beneficial life. If things do not turn out as you wish, or if something does not happen on your own timing, then you can be sure that the DIVINE has other plans for you, and that there are still other issues to be looked at, or problems to be solved, or knots which need untying, or issues which require closure, before that particular avenue is open to you. This is valid on a personal level and also a global level. Many of you who are “in the know” about the DIVINE DESTINY of this planet have been impatient with the “wrapping up” of the old, corrupt age, and are eager to move on to the new. And we say: ALL IN GOOD TIMING, which actually means ALL IN DIVINE TIMING. We encourage you to think more along these lines, and to make good use of the time which is left to you, because it affords you an unparalleled opportunity to learn. We again take our leave, Seraphin :Divine timing: All 5 volumes of THE COMPLETE SERAPHIN MESSAGES are now available. They will help all readers to navigate these difficult times, easing their passage when old structures / world views / beliefs fall, and when new priorities ensue. |
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User ID: 80916097 Germany 10/02/2021 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a really thought-provoking text. Thank you for posting. It started me thinking about which times of my life involved the most surrender, and I conclude that it was when I was a mother of small children. One of them never slept through the night for 18 months, due to earache / coughing / middle ear infections. Often, I would have to take her to the hospital at night at a moment's notice. If I heard her crying, I was up on my feet immediately. It was a period of intense tiredness. All mothers experience this to some degree - the unquestionable devotion to a small helpless being. In some ways, we are responsible for life and death. This was often my thought as a mother. And later on, when the children grow up, there is no "slacking off" possible if we want them to grow into responsible, stable, independant adults. Our constant attention is required. This is not to say that parents should not look out for our own health and happiness, just that rearing children is one of the most important tasks on this planet. Colour Crusader: may we fill the world with vibrant colour, constant critical assessment and deep compassion, moving ever forward towards a paradise of our own creating Thread THE WORLD WILL BECOME PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL AND ABUNDANT IF .. Thread: The world will become peaceful, beautiful and abundant IF .... Thread INCREDIBLE VOICES: THE MOST PERSONAL EXPRESSION OF THE HUMAN CONDITION Thread: INCREDIBLE VOICES, AND MUSIC WHICH COMFORTS AND INSPIRES IN DIFFICULT TIMES Thread: WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM? CHOOSE THE QUALITY WHICH HELPS Thread: HOW WE CAN SOLVE GLOBAL PROBLEMS BY CHOOSING A NUMBER BETWEEN 1 and 100 Thread: HOW FULFILLING IS YOUR JOB? WHAT IS YOUR VOCATION? DREAM ON ... Thread: IS YOUR JOB USEFUL, AND HAVE RECENT DEVELOPMENTS HELPED YOU TO REFLECT ON YOUR REAL VOCATION? Thread: QUESTION OF THE DAY Thread Thread: QUESTION OF THE DAY: SELF-REFLECTION IS ESSENTIAL FOR SURVIVAL |
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User ID: 79301643 Canada 10/03/2021 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We shall not flag nor fail. We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in France and on the seas and oceans; we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air. We shall defend our island whatever the cost may be; we shall fight on beaches, landing grounds, in fields, in streets and on the hills. We shall never surrender... ...1 0 1 0 [1 1] 2 3 5 8... |
Lester
User ID: 700817 United States 10/03/2021 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So predictably Laodicean. The pseudo-Christians that have no concept of the subject as relates to establishing Relationship With God, advising others... There is no "topic" of Surrender. Certainly, surrender is not witnessed or preached in church. Talked about, maybe... Yet, to witness means to relate facts KNOWN. As St. Paul counsels Timothy in 2nd Tim 2:6: those that would preach-teach-minister "Ought First BE Partakers Of The Fruits". So few of those 'serving' in the above capacities in this age of Laodicea even grasp that the Ezekiel 36:26-27 Born-Again Life is possible; much less, have Come Unto The Father themselves and thereby Enabled to witness what they did and what God Has Given Them To KNOW... Surrender Unto The Father is what Christ Jesus Was Sent To Enable. God cannot look upon sin. Until mankind was Redeemed from the sin in the garden, God could not look upon anyone. The 2nd paragraph of seraphin message 463 states attempts to define `surrender'. Yet, the author is In Error. There is NO Coming Unto The Father (surrendering) by effort of carnal self. There is no establishing "chosen alignment with the Divine". What is necessary to evoke "surrender" is brokenness. Realization that only life lived In Accord With God can be "right". I have written for years that Only sinners and Purehearts ever make their surrender... The sinner because he/she perceives or has no one else to turn to except God. The Pureheart because after all their self-efforts to establish Rellationship with the Father have failed, they finally in exasperation reach the point where they Give HIM All They Are and All They Ever Will Be, To Do With As HE Sees Fit... Coming Unto The Father is the Leap Of Faith. Loving God, Trusting HIM Competely and Fully; THEN, Taking Action and Seeking HIM in earnest & sincere prayer and Telling HIM ALL; Giving HIM Your ALL. There is no intellectually coming to decision. Matt 13:11-15 establishes that Christ Jesus Witnesses to those who can Hear & See The Gospel In Their Heart, rather than intellectually analyze. HE Plainly Says in verse 15 that those seeking with their head have hearts that are "waxed gross", meaning blocked. HE Says HE uses parables so they won't understand: "Lest they understand, be converted, and I should (have) to heal them."... Jesus' Witness in Matt 22:1-14 begins "A Certain King Made A Wedding Feast For HIS Son"... This parable is Jesus' Witness of Father's Plan for Christianity. This sentence is also the last mention of The King's Son. In verse 14, Jesus ends the parable with "For many were Called, but few are Chosen!" All those Called (in the parable and real life) were Chosen BY The Father. Matt 16:13-20 makes plain that KNOWING WHO Jesus IS, is KNOWLEDGE that ONLY The Father Puts On Your Heart... Knowledge of WHO HE IS is "the rock" or foundation upon which HE Builds HIS Church! Many were Called, but few CHOOSE=ELECT to Trust God Fully and Give HIM Their Lives... Not many will ever have the sinner's or pureheart's brokenness. I did. It was the Greatest Blessing of my life, to be so thoroughly broken and afraid to continue living a life without God... Surrender is Proving You Love God and Put HIM First in your life. Surrender is "the works" St. James refers to in "Faith Without Works Is Dead!" In less time than to read this first post, I made my surrender and gave my life unreservedly and completely Unto The Father. When I was done, having opened my heart fully and Given HIM my all, I KNEW I had stood In Father's Presence and was a New man. Surrender is what Delivers you into Father's Presence and Enables Father To Give You A NEW Heart Of HIS Flesh, "Put MY Spirit Within You" and Enable you to KNOW and DO HIS Will, and "Keep MY Statutes and DO MY Judgments". This is Ezekiel 36:26-27; The Concise Witness of The Born-Again Life. We have to die unto self to be alive with HIM Forever. We have to surrender self to be Partakers In HIS Holiness and Victory. All a matter of heart. If you Love HIM Fully and Would BE HIS; Time To Tell HIM So! Maranatha!!! |
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User ID: 79301643 Canada 10/03/2021 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SURRENDER IS ISLAM Quoting: Akali ISLAM IS SURRENDER TO SURRENDER IS TO SUBMIT TO THE WILL OF ALLAH Please Be Enlightened yes ..... and it means all of the above in the Rosie piece. very few on this planet surrender to the indwelling father which is WHAT ALLAH IS. all, tell me one time in human history when someone has surrendered and ended up back on top? Last Edited by panthers on 10/03/2021 03:02 PM ...1 0 1 0 [1 1] 2 3 5 8... |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80942288 United States 10/03/2021 03:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So predictably Laodicean. Quoting: Lester The pseudo-Christians that have no concept of the subject as relates to establishing Relationship With God, advising others... There is no "topic" of Surrender. Certainly, surrender is not witnessed or preached in church. Talked about, maybe... Yet, to witness means to relate facts KNOWN. As St. Paul counsels Timothy in 2nd Tim 2:6: those that would preach-teach-minister "Ought First BE Partakers Of The Fruits". So few of those 'serving' in the above capacities in this age of Laodicea even grasp that the Ezekiel 36:26-27 Born-Again Life is possible; much less, have Come Unto The Father themselves and thereby Enabled to witness what they did and what God Has Given Them To KNOW... Surrender Unto The Father is what Christ Jesus Was Sent To Enable. God cannot look upon sin. Until mankind was Redeemed from the sin in the garden, God could not look upon anyone. The 2nd paragraph of seraphin message 463 states attempts to define `surrender'. Yet, the author is In Error. There is NO Coming Unto The Father (surrendering) by effort of carnal self. There is no establishing "chosen alignment with the Divine". What is necessary to evoke "surrender" is brokenness. Realization that only life lived In Accord With God can be "right". I have written for years that Only sinners and Purehearts ever make their surrender... The sinner because he/she perceives or has no one else to turn to except God. The Pureheart because after all their self-efforts to establish Rellationship with the Father have failed, they finally in exasperation reach the point where they Give HIM All They Are and All They Ever Will Be, To Do With As HE Sees Fit... Coming Unto The Father is the Leap Of Faith. Loving God, Trusting HIM Competely and Fully; THEN, Taking Action and Seeking HIM in earnest & sincere prayer and Telling HIM ALL; Giving HIM Your ALL. There is no intellectually coming to decision. Matt 13:11-15 establishes that Christ Jesus Witnesses to those who can Hear & See The Gospel In Their Heart, rather than intellectually analyze. HE Plainly Says in verse 15 that those seeking with their head have hearts that are "waxed gross", meaning blocked. HE Says HE uses parables so they won't understand: "Lest they understand, be converted, and I should (have) to heal them."... Jesus' Witness in Matt 22:1-14 begins "A Certain King Made A Wedding Feast For HIS Son"... This parable is Jesus' Witness of Father's Plan for Christianity. This sentence is also the last mention of The King's Son. In verse 14, Jesus ends the parable with "For many were Called, but few are Chosen!" All those Called (in the parable and real life) were Chosen BY The Father. Matt 16:13-20 makes plain that KNOWING WHO Jesus IS, is KNOWLEDGE that ONLY The Father Puts On Your Heart... Knowledge of WHO HE IS is "the rock" or foundation upon which HE Builds HIS Church! Many were Called, but few CHOOSE=ELECT to Trust God Fully and Give HIM Their Lives... Not many will ever have the sinner's or pureheart's brokenness. I did. It was the Greatest Blessing of my life, to be so thoroughly broken and afraid to continue living a life without God... Surrender is Proving You Love God and Put HIM First in your life. Surrender is "the works" St. James refers to in "Faith Without Works Is Dead!" In less time than to read this first post, I made my surrender and gave my life unreservedly and completely Unto The Father. When I was done, having opened my heart fully and Given HIM my all, I KNEW I had stood In Father's Presence and was a New man. Surrender is what Delivers you into Father's Presence and Enables Father To Give You A NEW Heart Of HIS Flesh, "Put MY Spirit Within You" and Enable you to KNOW and DO HIS Will, and "Keep MY Statutes and DO MY Judgments". This is Ezekiel 36:26-27; The Concise Witness of The Born-Again Life. We have to die unto self to be alive with HIM Forever. We have to surrender self to be Partakers In HIS Holiness and Victory. All a matter of heart. If you Love HIM Fully and Would BE HIS; Time To Tell HIM So! Maranatha!!! a great deal of BS in your long post... mostly poorly based on mind controlled religions. |
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User ID: 80925018 Canada 10/03/2021 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SURRENDER IS ISLAM Quoting: Akali ISLAM IS SURRENDER TO SURRENDER IS TO SUBMIT TO THE WILL OF ALLAH Please Be Enlightened yes ..... and it means all of the above in the Rosie piece. very few on this planet surrender to the indwelling father which is WHAT ALLAH IS. Unfortunately in Islam, Allah is NOT the in dwelling Father. Allah in Islam misappropriated the name of the indwelling Father and is instrumental in enslaving the souls of billions. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80942288 United States 10/03/2021 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SURRENDER IS ISLAM Quoting: Akali ISLAM IS SURRENDER TO SURRENDER IS TO SUBMIT TO THE WILL OF ALLAH Please Be Enlightened yes ..... and it means all of the above in the Rosie piece. very few on this planet surrender to the indwelling father which is WHAT ALLAH IS. Unfortunately in Islam, Allah is NOT the in dwelling Father. Allah in Islam misappropriated the name of the indwelling Father and is instrumental in enslaving the souls of billions. fortunately in Islam it is the Indwelling Father... but billions of souls have been fucked up in the teaching. As has Christianity if the "holy spirit" thing... that denies them of knowing the Indwelling Father also. |
Lester
User ID: 700817 United States 10/03/2021 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So predictably Laodicean. Quoting: Lester The pseudo-Christians that have no concept of the subject as relates to establishing Relationship With God, advising others... There is no "topic" of Surrender. Certainly, surrender is not witnessed or preached in church. Talked about, maybe... Yet, to witness means to relate facts KNOWN. As St. Paul counsels Timothy in 2nd Tim 2:6: those that would preach-teach-minister "Ought First BE Partakers Of The Fruits". So few of those 'serving' in the above capacities in this age of Laodicea even grasp that the Ezekiel 36:26-27 Born-Again Life is possible; much less, have Come Unto The Father themselves and thereby Enabled to witness what they did and what God Has Given Them To KNOW... Surrender Unto The Father is what Christ Jesus Was Sent To Enable. God cannot look upon sin. Until mankind was Redeemed from the sin in the garden, God could not look upon anyone. The 2nd paragraph of seraphin message 463 states attempts to define `surrender'. Yet, the author is In Error. There is NO Coming Unto The Father (surrendering) by effort of carnal self. There is no establishing "chosen alignment with the Divine". What is necessary to evoke "surrender" is brokenness. Realization that only life lived In Accord With God can be "right". I have written for years that Only sinners and Purehearts ever make their surrender... The sinner because he/she perceives or has no one else to turn to except God. The Pureheart because after all their self-efforts to establish Rellationship with the Father have failed, they finally in exasperation reach the point where they Give HIM All They Are and All They Ever Will Be, To Do With As HE Sees Fit... Coming Unto The Father is the Leap Of Faith. Loving God, Trusting HIM Competely and Fully; THEN, Taking Action and Seeking HIM in earnest & sincere prayer and Telling HIM ALL; Giving HIM Your ALL. There is no intellectually coming to decision. Matt 13:11-15 establishes that Christ Jesus Witnesses to those who can Hear & See The Gospel In Their Heart, rather than intellectually analyze. HE Plainly Says in verse 15 that those seeking with their head have hearts that are "waxed gross", meaning blocked. HE Says HE uses parables so they won't understand: "Lest they understand, be converted, and I should (have) to heal them."... Jesus' Witness in Matt 22:1-14 begins "A Certain King Made A Wedding Feast For HIS Son"... This parable is Jesus' Witness of Father's Plan for Christianity. This sentence is also the last mention of The King's Son. In verse 14, Jesus ends the parable with "For many were Called, but few are Chosen!" All those Called (in the parable and real life) were Chosen BY The Father. Matt 16:13-20 makes plain that KNOWING WHO Jesus IS, is KNOWLEDGE that ONLY The Father Puts On Your Heart... Knowledge of WHO HE IS is "the rock" or foundation upon which HE Builds HIS Church! Many were Called, but few CHOOSE=ELECT to Trust God Fully and Give HIM Their Lives... Not many will ever have the sinner's or pureheart's brokenness. I did. It was the Greatest Blessing of my life, to be so thoroughly broken and afraid to continue living a life without God... Surrender is Proving You Love God and Put HIM First in your life. Surrender is "the works" St. James refers to in "Faith Without Works Is Dead!" In less time than to read this first post, I made my surrender and gave my life unreservedly and completely Unto The Father. When I was done, having opened my heart fully and Given HIM my all, I KNEW I had stood In Father's Presence and was a New man. Surrender is what Delivers you into Father's Presence and Enables Father To Give You A NEW Heart Of HIS Flesh, "Put MY Spirit Within You" and Enable you to KNOW and DO HIS Will, and "Keep MY Statutes and DO MY Judgments". This is Ezekiel 36:26-27; The Concise Witness of The Born-Again Life. We have to die unto self to be alive with HIM Forever. We have to surrender self to be Partakers In HIS Holiness and Victory. All a matter of heart. If you Love HIM Fully and Would BE HIS; Time To Tell HIM So! Maranatha!!! a great deal of BS in your long post... mostly poorly based on mind controlled religions. Not hardly... I've been posting my Christian witness here for almost 18yrs. I came to make my surrender due to my efforts to work the AA 12 steps in 1984 on my return to AA. A guy showed me how the steps worked, and I had just completed my 4th step list, recognizing my resentments and where I had been at fault with other. It was 12:30am and I was headed for a soda from the fridge when I heard a soft voice say: "Why don't you give your life to God now? (the 5th step). I got down on my knees and did so... I told Father-God that I Knew Jesus was HIS Son, Our Redeemer and Saviour, but I didn't know how HE fit into HIS Plan, so I was giving my life to HIM. I callled every name I could think of for Father-God; Jehovah, Abba, Elohim, YahWeh etc. There was no religion about it. I was a pretty staunch catholic, raised & educated through university level. There was no such dogma or canon for Coming Unto The Father and surrendering. I didn't learn those terms until years later. Almost 37-1/2 yrs of Daily & Constant Contact With Father-God; plus Recovery From Alcoholism. As Jesus Said to Nicodemus: "WE Tell you what WE have Seen & Know and still you deny Our Witness. How can I tell you of Heavenly things when you deny earthly things?" John 3 11-12 If anybody plays games and spouts bullshit, it is you pseudo-Christians of Laodicea. Like the very pious Christian woman who told my wife and I about how she can't trust anything The Holy Spirit Gives her until she "proves it in The Word"... I KNOW The Father and Holy Spirit's voice and testify as to Jesus' Witness in John 17:15 that HIS people (Born-Agains) are "Preserved Against ALL evil". Want some intellectual rationale you can hang your beliefs on? Then you're unable to Trust God... Making surrender can happen any number of ways, but it's a matter of manifesting your heart; not following procedure or recitation of some prayer. It's your carnal-heart that prevents you from taking action. Pretty much, it takes brokenness of the sort that Coming Unto The Father means more to you than self-willed life itself. Me? I knew I would soon be dead if I couldn't give my life to God. I had fouled it up so brilliantly with my best thinking and plans. These ARE The Final Moments. I am sure you mean well, but... Unless YOU are yourself an Ezekiel 36:26-27 Born-Again, you have no idea what you are posting. YOU either KNOW God, or you don't. YOU either KNOW What You Did, Said, and Felt when YOU Came Unto The Father; or you never have. Jesus Witnesses harshly and specifically to the church of Laodicea in Revelation ch 3. Paul Says in Hebrews 12:5-10: 5. And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: 6. For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. 7. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? 8. But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. 9. Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live? 10. For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness. In these Final Moments, it is time to witness only those things Of-God which you Know Are True and Have Experienced. Most Laodiceans are the haughty and prideful wretches that Jesus Says They Are; "Bastards Not Sons"... Many will hear "Depart from ME, you who work iniquity: I KNOW YOU NOT! Matt 7:21-23 is pretty clear that HE Don't KNOW You Unless You're Born-Again. Ten or fifteen minutes to make my surrender and give my life to God. 37+ years ago... The most important moment of my life. |
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User ID: 79301643 Canada 10/04/2021 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Surrender is not about bible quotes and I will start removing the mind control of them if that is what it takes.. OK. YOu people cannot think STRAIGHT because of your "beliefs" which are NOT knowing. This is fanaticism. :Love to you 2: Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL There are zero Bible quotes I know suggesting anyone to surrender. In fact you will be hard pressed to even find that word in the Bible. So before you try to fix anyone else, maybe calibrate yourself first on what you are talking about. ...1 0 1 0 [1 1] 2 3 5 8... |
IAMONE6655
User ID: 78505753 United States 10/04/2021 11:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Surrender is not about bible quotes and I will start removing the mind control of them if that is what it takes.. OK. YOu people cannot think STRAIGHT because of your "beliefs" which are NOT knowing. This is fanaticism. :Love to you 2: Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL There are zero Bible quotes I know suggesting anyone to surrender. In fact you will be hard pressed to even find that word in the Bible. So before you try to fix anyone else, maybe calibrate yourself first on what you are talking about. here is one example: KJV James 4:7 "Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you." But this is not the point. You are not reading the thread. Is about what Surrender means, which is not defeat. But surrendering to God's or divine guidance and not going against that (resisting) Truth, God... "Be Perfect Even as I AM Perfect" -God |
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User ID: 78716192 United States 10/04/2021 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Surrender is not about bible quotes and I will start removing the mind control of them if that is what it takes.. OK. YOu people cannot think STRAIGHT because of your "beliefs" which are NOT knowing. This is fanaticism. :Love to you 2: Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL There are zero Bible quotes I know suggesting anyone to surrender. In fact you will be hard pressed to even find that word in the Bible. So before you try to fix anyone else, maybe calibrate yourself first on what you are talking about. Thy will be done. secretswami |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80942288 United States 10/04/2021 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Surrender is not about bible quotes and I will start removing the mind control of them if that is what it takes.. OK. YOu people cannot think STRAIGHT because of your "beliefs" which are NOT knowing. This is fanaticism. :Love to you 2: Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL There are zero Bible quotes I know suggesting anyone to surrender. In fact you will be hard pressed to even find that word in the Bible. So before you try to fix anyone else, maybe calibrate yourself first on what you are talking about. your bible is not the word of God... and the contents of the piece are not mine.. but another on my team but hints given on surrender by a person here on GLP which lead to the writing of the piece. YOU have to grow your own SPIRIT MIND and your churches and bible do NOT FOCUS on that which is a HUGE ERROR. Surrender is not winning a battle over another.. it is the working together in a nutshell of two or more parties.. being anyway from a couple to businesses and nations. if you believe the bible is the only source.. you have a box on your head problem. for it is insufficient to its core and often completely wrong. Ones are so mind controlled by religions etc they cannot see the real and that is very obvious right here on GLP... The real must be sought. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80942288 United States 10/04/2021 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Surrender is not about bible quotes and I will start removing the mind control of them if that is what it takes.. OK. YOu people cannot think STRAIGHT because of your "beliefs" which are NOT knowing. This is fanaticism. :Love to you 2: Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL There are zero Bible quotes I know suggesting anyone to surrender. In fact you will be hard pressed to even find that word in the Bible. So before you try to fix anyone else, maybe calibrate yourself first on what you are talking about. Thy will be done. Thy will of my Father I DO. As will as the will of Christ Jesus in my direct service WITH HIM. And I will be working thru help this world comprehend surrender in my future role here. |
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User ID: 69356349 Canada 10/05/2021 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Surrender is not about bible quotes and I will start removing the mind control of them if that is what it takes.. OK. YOu people cannot think STRAIGHT because of your "beliefs" which are NOT knowing. This is fanaticism. :Love to you 2: Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL There are zero Bible quotes I know suggesting anyone to surrender. In fact you will be hard pressed to even find that word in the Bible. So before you try to fix anyone else, maybe calibrate yourself first on what you are talking about. your bible is not the word of God... and the contents of the piece are not mine.. but another on my team but hints given on surrender by a person here on GLP which lead to the writing of the piece. YOU have to grow your own SPIRIT MIND and your churches and bible do NOT FOCUS on that which is a HUGE ERROR. Surrender is not winning a battle over another.. it is the working together in a nutshell of two or more parties.. being anyway from a couple to businesses and nations. if you believe the bible is the only source.. you have a box on your head problem. for it is insufficient to its core and often completely wrong. Ones are so mind controlled by religions etc they cannot see the real and that is very obvious right here on GLP... The real must be sought. The Bible is the first religious book to offer prophecy and is the first religious book to actually have prophecies come true. In just 2020 alone, over 24 prophecies were fulfilled with outstanding accuracy and precision. Keeping in mind that these prophecies were given about 2000 years ago. With that being said, the prophecies themselves validate the Book and its source. If you dont understand that this is a smoking gun and its ready to fire again, then maybe you should invest your time into something more fruitful and suited to your level. it is purely fruitless for you to try and undermine the facts that prophecies present, especially when they lead to a superior force which you have denied over and over. The Bible has proven itself over and over to be the Rock of Ages. Nothing else compares, and for good reason. Time for you to get on the winning team All, otherwise you will be going in circles forever. Is what the buddists call Samsara. ;) ...1 0 1 0 [1 1] 2 3 5 8... |
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User ID: 80402237 United States 10/06/2021 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the Urantia Book/Urantia Papers: PART I The Central and Superuniverses PAPER 1 THE UNIVERSAL FATHER [link to holybooks-lichtenbergpress.netdna-ssl.com (secure)] "The Creator refuses to coerce or compel the submission of the spiritual free wills of his material creatures. The affectionate dedication of the human will to the doing of the Father’s will is man’s choicest gift to God; in fact, such a consecration of creature will constitutes man’s only possible gift of true value to the Paradise Father. In God, man lives, moves, and has his being; there is nothing which man can give to God except this choosing to abide by the Father’s will, and such decisions, effected by the intelligent will creatures of the universes, constitute the reality of that true worship which is so satisfying to the love-dominated nature of the Creator Father." "Be Perfect Even as I AM Perfect" -God |
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User ID: 80402237 United States 10/06/2021 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Urantia Papers: [link to holybooks-lichtenbergpress.netdna-ssl.com (secure)] Paper 111 5. THE CONSECRATION OF CHOICE "The doing of the will of God is nothing more or less than an exhibition of creature willingness to share the inner life with God—with the very God who has made such a creature life of inner meaning-value possible. Sharing is Godlike—divine....The imitation of God is the key to perfection; the doing of his will is the secret of survival and of perfection in survival." ".......Peace in this life, survival in death, perfection in the next life, service in eternity—all these are achieved (in spirit) now when the creature personality consents—chooses—to subject the creature will to the Father’s will. "Such a creature choice is not a surrender of will. It is a consecration of will, an expansion of will, a glorification of will, a perfecting of will; and such choosing raises the creature will from the level of temporal significance to that higher estate wherein the personality of the creature son communes with the personality of the spirit Father." "Be Perfect Even as I AM Perfect" -God |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80942288 United States 10/08/2021 08:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to abundanthope.net] SERAPHIN MESSAGE 465: THE IMPORTANCE OF SURRENDER IN CREATING THE SACRED Through Rosie, 7th October 2021 We would like to continue, Beloveds on Earth, with our instructions concerning surrender – a word which instantly triggers many of you because you feel it involves SACRIFICE. (And it is of course always your choice whether to work on yourselves, thus removing the trigger, or whether to avoid working on yourselves and simply remove the word). In a way, it does involve sacrifice, yet the OUTCOME of surrendering is vastly preferable to the chaos and enslavement which you have generated on your earth today. As we have already mentioned, surrender is a method of increasing your joy and serenity. INSTRUCTIONS FOR A PEACEFUL AND JOYFUL LIFE It is necessary to SURRENDER FIXED IDEAS. A FIXED IDEA IS FINITE. A FIXED IDEA LIMITS YOU. If you release a fixed idea, you open up the door to growth. You allow EVEN GREATER VISIONS TO BLOOM. Why would you want to limit yourselves, Beloveds? Why would you encourage restricting, enslaving and unsatisfactory conditions when you could be leading projects which have a huge capacity to impact large numbers of people positively? Would this not be SACRED WORK? You must SURRENDER your ideas of “me as opposed to you” and “my success” and “my goal”. You must release the focus on yourself and start to INCLUDE OTHERS IN YOUR TRAIN OF THOUGHT. You must release ideas of personal gain, personal wealth and personal steps up the career ladder, and you must start to see yourself In RELATION TO ALL OTHERS AND ALL THINGS, positioning yourself and your contributions IN COMBINATION with other contributions so that a synergy effect can take place, resulting in a huge explosion of potential. To harbour secrets and to “opt out” of this communal forward movement is to miss out on fulfilment. To withdraw, and to avoid participation, is to cement your own unhappiness. Do you have a pet project or a pet plan? Are you proud of being the instigator of such a plan? If so, you must SURRENDER YOUR SUPPOSED OWNERSHIP, FOR NOTHING SACRED WILL BE ACHIEVED IN COMPLETE ISOLATION. You need others to GROW AND LEARN FASTER, Beloveds, and we can say that although there have been some very fast learners on your earth plane, the majority have been PLODDING ALONG AT AN INCREDIBLY SLOW RATE. These are the ones for whom surrender is a difficult concept, for they already consider themselves as victims who have “surrendered”. These are the ones who, for the most part, refuse to learn and who will reap the (unfortunately negative) results of their (unfortunately negative) behavior. Know also that we love these “little ones”, who cannot conceive of their own greatness and potential, and that is why we try to reach them through such messages. Coming back to the title of this piece: it is your mandate to CREATE SOMETHING SACRED – not something which is flighty, temporary, mundane or mediocre. It should be characterised by EXCELLENCE. It might have a stunning effect on others, assisting their growth and lighting up their faces with amazement at such beauty, or it may instigate a longing for peace, or it may instill them with increased sensitivity, or it may dispel their greatest fears, or it may fill them with gratitude, or it may bring them to a place of calm, content in the knowledge that they are supported, loved and cared for. ALL WORK ON EARTH FALLS INTO ONE OF THESE CATEGORIES, AND IF CARRIED OUT WITH DEVOTION, DILIGENCE AND ATTENTION TO DETAIL, IT WILL BE SACRED WORK. We would like to focus on one particular category. The most sacred of tasks, in which SURRENDER plays a never-ending and pivotal role, is that of raising children. Not a second goes by, in the heart of a true parent, which is not used for the teaching of the child, and, by the same token, of the child teaching the parent how to teach. The child, in order to learn, must surrender to the knowledge and wisdom of the parent, and the parent must surrender to the slower pace and not-yet-developed learning capacities of the child. Parents are required to be constantly patient and to constantly adjust themselves. Nothing can be forced. There is a phrase which says “Don’t cut off a piece bigger than you can swallow”. All processes must be thorough, constant and appropriate to the “digestive system” of the “swallower”. What if your present occupation is LESS THAN SACRED? This is an excellent time to review your activities, looking at them from this aspect. We hope that we have been able to provide you with some insights which will serve you and everyone in the future. Seraphin.:to label self: |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80942288 United States 10/08/2021 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SURRENDER IS ISLAM Quoting: Akali ISLAM IS SURRENDER TO SURRENDER IS TO SUBMIT TO THE WILL OF ALLAH Please Be Enlightened yes ..... and it means all of the above in the Rosie piece. very few on this planet surrender to the indwelling father which is WHAT ALLAH IS. all, tell me one time in human history when someone has surrendered and ended up back on top? you did not comprehend the piece did you? to properly surrender is to have reached the top in something you are involved in with another... and the other has also reached the top and there is thus peace.. harmoney.. love and balance.. in whatever was involved in that transaction with another.. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80942288 United States 10/08/2021 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now We Are Free... this is what happens when parties find Surrender.. it frees all parties in the situation or transaction and the concept will be used heavily by me in my future role in service to Christ Jesus on this world. The use and understanding alone will bring this world into Light and life. |