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Help!! Coming off Ativan!!!

 
BornAgain87

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Hi, all. I have a question!! Does anyone know any vitamins that help with withdrawl? i've been on Ativan for 10 years and been super depressed lately. I took 9 extra pills some how this past 3 months and i'm short on my prescription. I can't get it filled till Sunday. I've been cutting them into quarters and today i'm stuck in this horrible hole and can't stop crying and horrible headache. Uggs!! Should I just keep feeling like this and come off Ativan? I don't know what to do. Thanks all!!!
 Quoting: OneSweetWorld


GABA, L-theanine, valerian, magnesium

I cold turkeyed 15 years of clonazepam at 3mg daily. I didn't have any supplements either. It was a long few years before I was free. Those supps should help. CBD oil could be beneficial as well with them.

I'd say the 2 most important are GABA and magnesium.
 Quoting: BornAgain87

I should add that I was also doing heroin, opiates, meth once in a while, and stimulant pills. I smoked at least a pack a day and drank on average a 12 pack a day after work. I quit it all over night cold Turkey.
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I just realized 9 extra pills in 3 months. That is NOTHING. Crap I've taken a few extra in one month just because I threw up because I was so anxious before they worked.

If you feel like you need to go to the ER go. They won't admit you. They'll give you something, watch and make sure you are ok and have a ride home. (at least thats what the ones around here do).
 Quoting: Raisty


Right. The problem was my pill bottle said the 2nd so I was thinking I was getting it filled. But, came back I didn't pick the medication up until the 6th and that's what they go off. So thank gosh I can get it Sunday and not wait till the 6th.
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Re: Help!! Coming off Ativan!!!
Hi, all. I have a question!! Does anyone know any vitamins that help with withdrawl? i've been on Ativan for 10 years and been super depressed lately. I took 9 extra pills some how this past 3 months and i'm short on my prescription. I can't get it filled till Sunday. I've been cutting them into quarters and today i'm stuck in this horrible hole and can't stop crying and horrible headache. Uggs!! Should I just keep feeling like this and come off Ativan? I don't know what to do. Thanks all!!!
 Quoting: OneSweetWorld


GABA, L-theanine, valerian, magnesium

I cold turkeyed 15 years of clonazepam at 3mg daily. I didn't have any supplements either. It was a long few years before I was free. Those supps should help. CBD oil could be beneficial as well with them.

I'd say the 2 most important are GABA and magnesium.
 Quoting: BornAgain87

I should add that I was also doing heroin, opiates, meth once in a while, and stimulant pills. I smoked at least a pack a day and drank on average a 12 pack a day after work. I quit it all over night cold Turkey.
 Quoting: BornAgain87


Oh wow. You are a rockstar my friend. How are you doing now? If it wasn't for my daughter i don't think i would be this way.
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Unfortunately this is what took my dad to the grave in 2019 he was only 62, he fought with the VA for years keep your head up I know it's tuff I've seen this first hand. Thoughts and prayers to you.
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Oh no!! i'm so sorry. thanks so much. i need them now more than ever.
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This is a medical emergency OP. You need your doctor or the ER on board. The time for self-care is later. Right now the key takeaway here is that you cannot do this alone without professional medical supervision. YOU are worth it OP!

You are going to need real ER/Doctor help to get through it.
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Hi, all. I have a question!! Does anyone know any vitamins that help with withdrawl? i've been on Ativan for 10 years and been super depressed lately. I took 9 extra pills some how this past 3 months and i'm short on my prescription. I can't get it filled till Sunday. I've been cutting them into quarters and today i'm stuck in this horrible hole and can't stop crying and horrible headache. Uggs!! Should I just keep feeling like this and come off Ativan? I don't know what to do. Thanks all!!!
 Quoting: OneSweetWorld


GABA, L-theanine, valerian, magnesium

I cold turkeyed 15 years of clonazepam at 3mg daily. I didn't have any supplements either. It was a long few years before I was free. Those supps should help. CBD oil could be beneficial as well with them.

I'd say the 2 most important are GABA and magnesium.
 Quoting: BornAgain87

I should add that I was also doing heroin, opiates, meth once in a while, and stimulant pills. I smoked at least a pack a day and drank on average a 12 pack a day after work. I quit it all over night cold Turkey.
 Quoting: BornAgain87


Oh wow. You are a rockstar my friend. How are you doing now? If it wasn't for my daughter i don't think i would be this way.
 Quoting: OneSweetWorld


I'm doing well now mentally. I'm dealing with some old physical ailments. All in all I'm in a much better place mentally than ive ever been. That experience forged a stronger man.
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Please follow @grimhood on twitter. He has a ton of experience with avoiding big pharma products. Magnesium is the key.
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Contact the pharmacist, and explain your situation, and ask if you can have 5 pills or so, until your prescription is filled. Explain to them you are having terrible withdrawals and you are suffering. Most Pharmacist will comply as long as they know you have a prescription on file.
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My Doctor finally emailed me back. He said thanks for being honest and that the DEA is cracking down so he had to give me 1mg of clonazepam for 5 days. He said please don't ever let this happen again, because he won't be able to help me. Thank you so so much everyone!!! you have no idea how much it means to me.


hf
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OP... as a Addict (recovering)

IF you get into dire straits, but some beer and drink one every 2 hours.

Not too long ago I had to go to a detox center for alcohol and they put me on Ativan. Alcohol and specifically Ativan work on THE EXACT SAME parts of the brain.

Or go to a Detox center and they may use Phenobarbital to bring you off it.

Detoxing for any drug other than opioids only lasts a couple of days.

Pharmacies frequently "short" their customers. Anytime I get a controlled substance filled... I stand there and count them out before walking away.

GABA may help. BUT it's technically too large a molecule to make it through the blood/ brain barrier. GABApentin on the other hand helps the brain maintain it's GABA levels.

Basically, you are low on GABA because the Ativan has been doing the job of GABA for you. On the other hand, another brain chem called Glutimate is the opposite of GABA and it is there in abundance. The Glutimate binds to the GABA receptors as well and does the opposite of calming you down.

So if you start withdrawing HARD and can't get your Dr... Alcohol will help. Just PLEASE get help for the long term.
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OP... as a Addict (recovering)

IF you get into dire straits, but some beer and drink one every 2 hours.

Not too long ago I had to go to a detox center for alcohol and they put me on Ativan. Alcohol and specifically Ativan work on THE EXACT SAME parts of the brain.

Or go to a Detox center and they may use Phenobarbital to bring you off it.

Detoxing for any drug other than opioids only lasts a couple of days.

Pharmacies frequently "short" their customers. Anytime I get a controlled substance filled... I stand there and count them out before walking away.

GABA may help. BUT it's technically too large a molecule to make it through the blood/ brain barrier. GABApentin on the other hand helps the brain maintain it's GABA levels.

Basically, you are low on GABA because the Ativan has been doing the job of GABA for you. On the other hand, another brain chem called Glutimate is the opposite of GABA and it is there in abundance. The Glutimate binds to the GABA receptors as well and does the opposite of calming you down.

So if you start withdrawing HARD and can't get your Dr... Alcohol will help. Just PLEASE get help for the long term.
 Quoting: First Born Son


Oh wow congrats!! I thought everyone was teasing when they said to drink. It makes sense. I wish now i never took this medication. If this is a snipped of what it feels like to come off completely I might need to be put in a coma or something. This is horrible
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OP... as a Addict (recovering)

IF you get into dire straits, but some beer and drink one every 2 hours.

Not too long ago I had to go to a detox center for alcohol and they put me on Ativan. Alcohol and specifically Ativan work on THE EXACT SAME parts of the brain.

Or go to a Detox center and they may use Phenobarbital to bring you off it.

Detoxing for any drug other than opioids only lasts a couple of days.

Pharmacies frequently "short" their customers. Anytime I get a controlled substance filled... I stand there and count them out before walking away.

GABA may help. BUT it's technically too large a molecule to make it through the blood/ brain barrier. GABApentin on the other hand helps the brain maintain it's GABA levels.

Basically, you are low on GABA because the Ativan has been doing the job of GABA for you. On the other hand, another brain chem called Glutimate is the opposite of GABA and it is there in abundance. The Glutimate binds to the GABA receptors as well and does the opposite of calming you down.

So if you start withdrawing HARD and can't get your Dr... Alcohol will help. Just PLEASE get help for the long term.
 Quoting: First Born Son

I wonder about that as well. I wonder if they shorted me and here i'm thinking i probably took it? I mean 10 years on this and all a sudden they give me 3 months worth instead of 30 days and i'm short 9 pills.
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My Doctor finally emailed me back. He said thanks for being honest and that the DEA is cracking down so he had to give me 1mg of clonazepam for 5 days. He said please don't ever let this happen again, because he won't be able to help me. Thank you so so much everyone!!! you have no idea how much it means to me.


hf
 Quoting: OneSweetWorld


I am so happy to hear this! This will definitely get you thru until Sunday. And will make it so this situation doesn't interfere with your future refills.

Happy you have relief!

hugs
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I wonder about that as well. I wonder if they shorted me and here i'm thinking i probably took it? I mean 10 years on this and all a sudden they give me 3 months worth instead of 30 days and i'm short 9 pills.
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I'd bet that is no coincidence
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Valerian root can help it will make you sleepy but it should help.
GABA is crap nothing more than a placebo effect.
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GABA does not pass through the blood-brain barrier (BBB) making it ill-suited to inhibit the spreading of autoreactivity within the CNS. Homotaurine is a BBB-permeable amino acid that antagonizes amyloid fibril formation and was found to be safe but ineffective in long-term Alzheimer's disease clinical trials.
Good luck I know how hard it is to detox.
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Kava kava for anxiety. Not as potent as xanax makes your tongue numb like some old school Peruvian flake if it’s quality Kava.

Kratom in low doses (2mg) of a WHITE strain for slight mood boost and energy. Stay away from the red unless you want to zombify yourself.

Ashwaganda is longer lasting than the Kava but doesn’t “hit” as hard.

Benzo w.drawl is no joke; neither is alcohol. In both instances Librium is the way to medical detox (contradiction in terms).

Whole Foods / Sprouts / local tree hugger hippie grifter bodega will have the Kava and the Kratom.

You’ll be fine my friend. Just breathe, it’s simple and automatic but if you SLOW DOWN and pay attention to JUST BREATHING.

IN 1,2,3,4
HOLD 4,3,2,1
OUT 1,2,3,4
WAIT 4,3,2,1

Eyes open on the inhale.
Eyes closed on the exhale.

That’s right brain — I AM in control.
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OP... as a Addict (recovering)

IF you get into dire straits, but some beer and drink one every 2 hours.

Not too long ago I had to go to a detox center for alcohol and they put me on Ativan. Alcohol and specifically Ativan work on THE EXACT SAME parts of the brain.

Or go to a Detox center and they may use Phenobarbital to bring you off it.

Detoxing for any drug other than opioids only lasts a couple of days.

Pharmacies frequently "short" their customers. Anytime I get a controlled substance filled... I stand there and count them out before walking away.

GABA may help. BUT it's technically too large a molecule to make it through the blood/ brain barrier. GABApentin on the other hand helps the brain maintain it's GABA levels.

Basically, you are low on GABA because the Ativan has been doing the job of GABA for you. On the other hand, another brain chem called Glutimate is the opposite of GABA and it is there in abundance. The Glutimate binds to the GABA receptors as well and does the opposite of calming you down.

So if you start withdrawing HARD and can't get your Dr... Alcohol will help. Just PLEASE get help for the long term.
 Quoting: First Born Son

I wonder about that as well. I wonder if they shorted me and here i'm thinking i probably took it? I mean 10 years on this and all a sudden they give me 3 months worth instead of 30 days and i'm short 9 pills.
 Quoting: OneSweetWorld


Wow! Mega scripts (90 days worth) are ripe for the picking.
I went to college with 2 guys who became pharmacists. BOTH would "bleed" a few pills here and there for I guess personal use or private sale.

It's WAY more common than you think.

I feel for your dilemma, I actually prayed for you last night. Please keep us posted as to how you are doing!
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My Doctor finally emailed me back. He said thanks for being honest and that the DEA is cracking down so he had to give me 1mg of clonazepam for 5 days. He said please don't ever let this happen again, because he won't be able to help me. Thank you so so much everyone!!! you have no idea how much it means to me.


hf
 Quoting: OneSweetWorld


I am so happy to hear this! This will definitely get you thru until Sunday. And will make it so this situation doesn't interfere with your future refills.

Happy you have relief!

hugs
 Quoting: Simple27


Thank you so much, Simple. Much love to you my friend
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OP... as a Addict (recovering)

IF you get into dire straits, but some beer and drink one every 2 hours.

Not too long ago I had to go to a detox center for alcohol and they put me on Ativan. Alcohol and specifically Ativan work on THE EXACT SAME parts of the brain.

Or go to a Detox center and they may use Phenobarbital to bring you off it.

Detoxing for any drug other than opioids only lasts a couple of days.

Pharmacies frequently "short" their customers. Anytime I get a controlled substance filled... I stand there and count them out before walking away.

GABA may help. BUT it's technically too large a molecule to make it through the blood/ brain barrier. GABApentin on the other hand helps the brain maintain it's GABA levels.

Basically, you are low on GABA because the Ativan has been doing the job of GABA for you. On the other hand, another brain chem called Glutimate is the opposite of GABA and it is there in abundance. The Glutimate binds to the GABA receptors as well and does the opposite of calming you down.

So if you start withdrawing HARD and can't get your Dr... Alcohol will help. Just PLEASE get help for the long term.
 Quoting: First Born Son

I wonder about that as well. I wonder if they shorted me and here i'm thinking i probably took it? I mean 10 years on this and all a sudden they give me 3 months worth instead of 30 days and i'm short 9 pills.
 Quoting: OneSweetWorld


Wow! Mega scripts (90 days worth) are ripe for the picking.
I went to college with 2 guys who became pharmacists. BOTH would "bleed" a few pills here and there for I guess personal use or private sale.

It's WAY more common than you think.

I feel for your dilemma, I actually prayed for you last night. Please keep us posted as to how you are doing!
 Quoting: First Born Son


Thank you so much my friend. I actually slept last night for the first time in a week. I just have a lil headache today. When will I start feeling myself again today or tomorrow? I just have a lil headache. I bet Rite Aid is taking some of my medication. Next time I get anything 90 days I assume I should count it? hfhfhf
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Valerian root can help it will make you sleepy but it should help.
GABA is crap nothing more than a placebo effect.
copy pasta from google.
GABA does not pass through the blood-brain barrier (BBB) making it ill-suited to inhibit the spreading of autoreactivity within the CNS. Homotaurine is a BBB-permeable amino acid that antagonizes amyloid fibril formation and was found to be safe but ineffective in long-term Alzheimer's disease clinical trials.
Good luck I know how hard it is to detox.
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Well crapola I ordered some yesterday and it should be here today. Should I return it and get Kava? thanks so much
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Re: Help!! Coming off Ativan!!!
Kava kava for anxiety. Not as potent as xanax makes your tongue numb like some old school Peruvian flake if it’s quality Kava.

Kratom in low doses (2mg) of a WHITE strain for slight mood boost and energy. Stay away from the red unless you want to zombify yourself.

Ashwaganda is longer lasting than the Kava but doesn’t “hit” as hard.

Benzo w.drawl is no joke; neither is alcohol. In both instances Librium is the way to medical detox (contradiction in terms).

Whole Foods / Sprouts / local tree hugger hippie grifter bodega will have the Kava and the Kratom.

You’ll be fine my friend. Just breathe, it’s simple and automatic but if you SLOW DOWN and pay attention to JUST BREATHING.

IN 1,2,3,4
HOLD 4,3,2,1
OUT 1,2,3,4
WAIT 4,3,2,1

Eyes open on the inhale.
Eyes closed on the exhale.

That’s right brain — I AM in control.
 Quoting: ShakyMirror

How does Kratom make you feel? A vape shop like a mile away sells it. So tell them I want some white kratom? Do you smoke it or how do you take it? thanks so much
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OP, you should get professional help. Ativan causes addiction to a certain degree. It's just a lighter version of a drug. I'm wishing you best on your withdrawal
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I was addicted to ativan.

I'm telling you, good weed.

Even if you dont smoke weed.

Ativan withdrawls can kill you.

I've buried several friends from ativan and adderall withdrawls.

You need some good weed.

It works better than anything else, trust me.
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My advice is to get off ativan completely, and any other benzos.

It's just alcohol in a pill, but stronger.

You'd be better off with a couple light beers.

Those drugs, even clonazepam are highly addictive.

You would do better with a couple beers and a bowl of kush.

I have huge anxiety issues and struggled with drug dependence after the army.

Trust what I say.

Get off benzos.
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My Doctor finally emailed me back. He said thanks for being honest and that the DEA is cracking down so he had to give me 1mg of clonazepam for 5 days. He said please don't ever let this happen again, because he won't be able to help me. Thank you so so much everyone!!! you have no idea how much it means to me.


hf
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Glad you're doing ok! hf
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Kava kava for anxiety. Not as potent as xanax makes your tongue numb like some old school Peruvian flake if it’s quality Kava.

Kratom in low doses (2mg) of a WHITE strain for slight mood boost and energy. Stay away from the red unless you want to zombify yourself.

Ashwaganda is longer lasting than the Kava but doesn’t “hit” as hard.

Benzo w.drawl is no joke; neither is alcohol. In both instances Librium is the way to medical detox (contradiction in terms).

Whole Foods / Sprouts / local tree hugger hippie grifter bodega will have the Kava and the Kratom.

You’ll be fine my friend. Just breathe, it’s simple and automatic but if you SLOW DOWN and pay attention to JUST BREATHING.

IN 1,2,3,4
HOLD 4,3,2,1
OUT 1,2,3,4
WAIT 4,3,2,1

Eyes open on the inhale.
Eyes closed on the exhale.

That’s right brain — I AM in control.
 Quoting: ShakyMirror

How does Kratom make you feel? A vape shop like a mile away sells it. So tell them I want some white kratom? Do you smoke it or how do you take it? thanks so much
 Quoting: OneSweetWorld


I take the pills. It got me off of antidepressants and other substances.

Krave is the brand I buy though I’m sure it’s not the best quality as it’s mass produced and heavily marketed. That said they have a lot of varieties.

Kratom is strange in that low doses (4g) it’s stimulative. I take it with a cup of coffee. In higher doses (I’ve heard people taking 30g a day) it’s an opiate pain killer makes you numb and dogshit tired.

As with everything you’ll develop a tolerance. To avoid that switch strains every couple of weeks / months. From Thai to Maeng Da to whatever the other 3 varieties are.

I personally stay away from “blends”.
Red, green, white are just which part of the leaf is harvested.
Red = heroin
White = stimulant
Green is balancing?

They say euphoria can occur but I think you’d need to take larger doses.

There’s also yellow and Orange but I don’t think those are natural. Someone correct me if I’m wrong.

Search the interweb for Kratom Sampler Pack. You can get a good deal on blends and powders.

Sort of like drinking tea: Earl Grey / Boack Tea for the AM Chamomile for bedtime. Do your own DD. There’s quite a few threads for Kratom on this board.

Www.erowid.org is also a good resource
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Kava kava for anxiety. Not as potent as xanax makes your tongue numb like some old school Peruvian flake if it’s quality Kava.

Kratom in low doses (2mg) of a WHITE strain for slight mood boost and energy. Stay away from the red unless you want to zombify yourself.

Ashwaganda is longer lasting than the Kava but doesn’t “hit” as hard.

Benzo w.drawl is no joke; neither is alcohol. In both instances Librium is the way to medical detox (contradiction in terms).

Whole Foods / Sprouts / local tree hugger hippie grifter bodega will have the Kava and the Kratom.

You’ll be fine my friend. Just breathe, it’s simple and automatic but if you SLOW DOWN and pay attention to JUST BREATHING.

IN 1,2,3,4
HOLD 4,3,2,1
OUT 1,2,3,4
WAIT 4,3,2,1

Eyes open on the inhale.
Eyes closed on the exhale.

That’s right brain — I AM in control.
 Quoting: ShakyMirror

How does Kratom make you feel? A vape shop like a mile away sells it. So tell them I want some white kratom? Do you smoke it or how do you take it? thanks so much
 Quoting: OneSweetWorld


I take the pills. It got me off of antidepressants and other substances.

Krave is the brand I buy though I’m sure it’s not the best quality as it’s mass produced and heavily marketed. That said they have a lot of varieties.

Kratom is strange in that low doses (4g) it’s stimulative. I take it with a cup of coffee. In higher doses (I’ve heard people taking 30g a day) it’s an opiate pain killer makes you numb and dogshit tired.

As with everything you’ll develop a tolerance. To avoid that switch strains every couple of weeks / months. From Thai to Maeng Da to whatever the other 3 varieties are.

I personally stay away from “blends”.
Red, green, white are just which part of the leaf is harvested.
Red = heroin
White = stimulant
Green is balancing?

They say euphoria can occur but I think you’d need to take larger doses.

There’s also yellow and Orange but I don’t think those are natural. Someone correct me if I’m wrong.

Search the interweb for Kratom Sampler Pack. You can get a good deal on blends and powders.

Sort of like drinking tea: Earl Grey / Boack Tea for the AM Chamomile for bedtime. Do your own DD. There’s quite a few threads for Kratom on this board.

Www.erowid.org is also a good resource
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Just smoke a bowl and you'll be fine man.

Holy shit.
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Re: Help!! Coming off Ativan!!!
My advice is to get off ativan completely, and any other benzos.

It's just alcohol in a pill, but stronger.

You'd be better off with a couple light beers.

Those drugs, even clonazepam are highly addictive.

You would do better with a couple beers and a bowl of kush.

I have huge anxiety issues and struggled with drug dependence after the army.

Trust what I say.

Get off benzos.
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I do smoke and take rso.
I think i'm smoking White Widow right now. I got a deal on some carts. I probably need a heavy Indica correct? White Widow doesn't make me sleepy. Or do you think I should switch back to flower? I've been using mmj carts for 3 years. Thanks so much
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Re: Help!! Coming off Ativan!!!
Kava kava for anxiety. Not as potent as xanax makes your tongue numb like some old school Peruvian flake if it’s quality Kava.

Kratom in low doses (2mg) of a WHITE strain for slight mood boost and energy. Stay away from the red unless you want to zombify yourself.

Ashwaganda is longer lasting than the Kava but doesn’t “hit” as hard.

Benzo w.drawl is no joke; neither is alcohol. In both instances Librium is the way to medical detox (contradiction in terms).

Whole Foods / Sprouts / local tree hugger hippie grifter bodega will have the Kava and the Kratom.

You’ll be fine my friend. Just breathe, it’s simple and automatic but if you SLOW DOWN and pay attention to JUST BREATHING.

IN 1,2,3,4
HOLD 4,3,2,1
OUT 1,2,3,4
WAIT 4,3,2,1

Eyes open on the inhale.
Eyes closed on the exhale.

That’s right brain — I AM in control.
 Quoting: ShakyMirror

How does Kratom make you feel? A vape shop like a mile away sells it. So tell them I want some white kratom? Do you smoke it or how do you take it? thanks so much
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I take the pills. It got me off of antidepressants and other substances.

Krave is the brand I buy though I’m sure it’s not the best quality as it’s mass produced and heavily marketed. That said they have a lot of varieties.

Kratom is strange in that low doses (4g) it’s stimulative. I take it with a cup of coffee. In higher doses (I’ve heard people taking 30g a day) it’s an opiate pain killer makes you numb and dogshit tired.

As with everything you’ll develop a tolerance. To avoid that switch strains every couple of weeks / months. From Thai to Maeng Da to whatever the other 3 varieties are.

I personally stay away from “blends”.
Red, green, white are just which part of the leaf is harvested.
Red = heroin
White = stimulant
Green is balancing?

They say euphoria can occur but I think you’d need to take larger doses.

There’s also yellow and Orange but I don’t think those are natural. Someone correct me if I’m wrong.

Search the interweb for Kratom Sampler Pack. You can get a good deal on blends and powders.

Sort of like drinking tea: Earl Grey / Boack Tea for the AM Chamomile for bedtime. Do your own DD. There’s quite a few threads for Kratom on this board.

Www.erowid.org is also a good resource
 Quoting: ShakyMirror


Thanks so much.. I will look into it. I think I have a couple vape shops near me that sells it. I know 1 does not sure of the others. <3
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