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This following says it all,

aometimes things are said and in retrospect with a differant point of view and some wisdom they mean something else entirely :-)

If not heard and like the Pink as opening post will like, the only other version by the top artists with a twist ever worth listening very CAREFULLY to the lyrics.



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lmao
 Quoting: Marco Israel



How are you going to handle the "Halloween avatar" pressure?

kiss
 Quoting: pool


I don’t think he celebrates Halloween.

chuckle
 Quoting: Ricky M


:lmsilly:
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Not to be contentious, but there is a point to be made that I simply cannot pass upon the opportunity to share.

If many are Christian as claim to be.....What does Halloween have to do with God?

Why would a Christian participate in such an occasion as many who claim to be Christian do?

As scripture say's;

1 Corinthians 10:21 - Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.

& again here;

2 Corinthians Chapter 6

14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

A true Christian would not observe, nor promote such an obviously evil occasion.

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Dirt is as much a part of god as we are, if not more. The mere color, texture is unmatched in ability to denote foundations of structures' stability as well as the foundation of a resting or growing place, eternally.

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I am not resigned to the shutting away of loving hearts in the hard ground.
So it is, and so it will be, for so it has been, time out of mind:
Into the darkness they go, the wise and the lovely. Crowned
With lilies and with laurel they go; but I am not resigned.

Lovers and thinkers, into the earth with you.
Be one with the dull, the indiscriminate dust.
A fragment of what you felt, of what you knew,
A formula, a phrase remains,—but the best is lost.

The answers quick and keen, the honest look, the laughter, the love,—
They are gone. They are gone to feed the roses. Elegant and curled
Is the blossom. Fragrant is the blossom. I know. But I do not approve.
More precious was the light in your eyes than all the roses in the world.

Down, down, down into the darkness of the grave
Gently they go, the beautiful, the tender, the kind;
Quietly they go, the intelligent, the witty, the brave.
I know. But I do not approve. And I am not resigned.

Edna St. Vincent Millay, “Dirge Without Music” from Collected Poems © 1928, 1955 by Edna St. Vincent Millay and Norma Millay Ellis. Reprinted with permission of Elizabeth Barnett and Holly Peppe, Literary Executors, The Millay Society.
Source: Collected Poems (HarperCollins, 1958)
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it is a bit complex with my mom dad and my elder sister whom died before i was born because i have stayed aloof from them in their death because i am not decided on some things about my own death and until i do i am not motivated to do anything with them
one other person that died to be with her husband and i do not mind that
those 4
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It's alright to stay aloof, having one truth and sticking with it takes mastery.

I had an experience, after my father died, trying to communicate with his soul to leave his body and go to heaven. His body had trapped him for so long I believed his soul wouldn't rise. So, I imagined his body in his casket, the marks on his wrists when he was tied to the hospital bed, his sunken face and pale eyelashes closed most of the way, his suit appearing to be too big...and his shrinking body was probably how I saw him. The connection to his visual state was overwhelmingly real. Probably not as real as having a past century open casket of him for a week or two for family to take photographs...It was quite the challenge to get his soul to leave his body. It might have been that he told me, no one goes to heaven after they die...

John 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.
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involving other people into your eternity through their eternity to become true
 Quoting: aether





the thing is since that 1975 fractal pattern discovery the risk to aliens is that we are rapidly discovering enough to become part of their eternity storyline because we will possess our own ability to experience eternity the same way that they do thus forcing them to include us into their memory of their future and what may occur within it
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that feels comfortable
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my non human memory is emotional visual only which until the planck dimensions where described through discovery in past 30 years or so was not explainable

fluid something that responded instant to my emotional response to its emotional motion that looked fluid motion
me and all that is not me
the 2
no thought of matter no thought of motion or direction by me
no people or any thought of solid shape or any description prompting that notion

everything like that i discovered after my birth here
scale
our science discoveries show that my scale then in comparison to my environment caused me to experience my environment as fluid
meaning that the uinverse that my memory describes me being in
is the universe that this universe resides in and me seeing this universe from that scale to here causes me to see here as fluid until i formed in it myself and matched scales
is what i mean is the short description
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my dead sister mom and dad remain in my environment and wait is the sensation and i do mind because my life effects their future although i was never knowing anything about them before i utilzed their lives to cause my life and i have no definite thought yet about my lifestyle and their experiences in their future

is where i have gotten to
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What do you hope happens?
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There are some beautiful music videos posted, thanks everyone for being harmonious. :flowers:

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What do you hope happens?
 Quoting: locol


To me there is no end, only changes.

For me, remaining open to allow non-judgement involves preparing thru time slowing down, higher source allowance whether loving or refusing thru withholding love, finding an outcome of peace outside of the world's process.

I feel as if last May, 5 mere months ago, was 2 years ago. So the connection surpassing cause and effects is being magnified.
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A true Christian would not observe, nor promote such an obviously evil occasion.

 Quoting: Osmium76

I cannot clearly see thru other's eyes, but most of the eyes I choose to see thru, see outside of religious projection. I have freedoms to think, feel, behave, live for life in my own creative way. I truly love giving candy to children, meals to adults, etc so they receive internal joy. They create the joy of having fun, appreciation, the candy I give is only a token to their mind's energy.

If it were my goal to see halloween as evil, I would miss out on so many happy things and giggles it creates. Pumpkin farmers love it, pumpkin is healing to eat, nutmeg cinnamon allspice are all healing and immune system boosting. Decorating is fun and no, I'm not into dry ice, blow up black cats, etc...however aren't black cats elegant. But hopefully you haven't read everything I've typed with a negative lean. I'll apologize if you see me thru your eyes as embracing an evil festival. There are people who see evil in things, good in others and create an evil environment out of thin air and good out of thin air. Ghosts are confused imo, not always evil. The night is dark and full of opportunity to create negative and positive things. So is the broad daylight. hugs endless.
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seriously, if i wake up tomorrow and see a spaceship hoover above, i won't be surprised. too many things are easily predictable.
 Quoting: pool


Do you think the public is ready?
I'm optimistic personally. Yes a percentage will freak out, but I believe the world is able to handle it.
 Quoting: m0r3


I think so!

Everyone saw Dark Helmet's star destroyer turn into a lady with a vacuum in Space Balls. I'm sure a lot of people would see that 90s movie as predictive programming if aliens wielding Hoovers invaded Earth...

At least Earth would be neater and if the Hoovers sucked up the plastic in the ocean while not hurting the whales I'm sure everyone would be happy to see them
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It's all bull!
Nevertheless, the ruler is not truly wise who cannot discern evils before they develop themselves, and this is a faculty given to few. Niccolo Machiavelli
Karma is funny, people who kick dogs usually get bitten.
If someone doesn't add value to your life, then that someone shouldn't be a part of it.
You can always trust people to do whatever is in their own interests.
It is certain wastelands will be brought under cultivation.
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 Quoting: locol


To me there is no end, only changes.

For me, remaining open to allow non-judgement involves preparing thru time slowing down, higher source allowance whether loving or refusing thru withholding love, finding an outcome of peace outside of the world's process.

I feel as if last May, 5 mere months ago, was 2 years ago. So the connection surpassing cause and effects is being magnified.
 Quoting: pool


float
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A true Christian would not observe, nor promote such an obviously evil occasion.

 Quoting: Osmium76

I cannot clearly see thru other's eyes, but most of the eyes I choose to see thru, see outside of religious projection. I have freedoms to think, feel, behave, live for life in my own creative way. I truly love giving candy to children, meals to adults, etc so they receive internal joy. They create the joy of having fun, appreciation, the candy I give is only a token to their mind's energy.

If it were my goal to see halloween as evil, I would miss out on so many happy things and giggles it creates. Pumpkin farmers love it, pumpkin is healing to eat, nutmeg cinnamon allspice are all healing and immune system boosting. Decorating is fun and no, I'm not into dry ice, blow up black cats, etc...however aren't black cats elegant. But hopefully you haven't read everything I've typed with a negative lean. I'll apologize if you see me thru your eyes as embracing an evil festival. There are people who see evil in things, good in others and create an evil environment out of thin air and good out of thin air. Ghosts are confused imo, not always evil. The night is dark and full of opportunity to create negative and positive things. So is the broad daylight. hugs endless.
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I respect your right to personal belief in something.

Everyone has a right to choose what and how they believe, but I believe scripture which illustrates that we wouldn't be in a such a predicament if Adam and eve didn't also choose wrong because the appeal of it in the moment made them sin in feigned ignorance.

Yet they could not hide the guilt or shame of what they chose from God. Neither can we.

Their example layed out in biblical scripture is meant to serve as a warning to us all to be careful of what we put our hand to do. It is the fruit of our labor and we are judged by our actions.

Premeditated murder is wrong too, but it doesn't stop people from attempting to justify their reason for engaging in it in front of the courts when caught when we are all aware that murder isn't justifiable. (Not to be confused with justifiable killing which is different.)

Scripture depicts people as trees that either bear good fruit or are cut down because they are unprofitable with corrupt and blighted fruit on it branches.

Luke
Chapter 6
43For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

44For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.

45A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

46And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

47Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like:

48He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock.

49But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.

I see the candy and the fun as the fruit of the forbidden tree. It looks good, but comes with foretold consequence of Christ denying us for our choices should they be in opposition to what our Creator designed.

God sent a flood to eradicate this type of thing among others and scripture says He will send fire in shot order upon the world as it is happening again.

Genesis 6:5
“And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.”

You and I have no argument. Your life is your to live as you see fit.

It's scripture and Gods word that matters. If you wish to argue with scripture, that also is your right, but it won't change the truth of what is said in it.

God is never wrong. hf

It is what it is.

You conscience decisions are a book of your life written on your soul for the time of judgment.

I am not your Judge. I am just a messenger and as such, I seek to separate truth from lie no matter the justification others hold as a matter of personal choice.

Ephesians 5:6-12 - Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.

Ephesians 5:11 - And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.


Isaiah 5:20 - Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

Don't shoot the messenger! macgun
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Thank you so much for writing again.

How is it denied that halloween is the type of holiday which can been seen differently?

Even Valentines is seen thru different eyes, some as solicitation to force an expression that should exist every day.

Christmas is seen both as the birth of christ and a marketing scheme to change financial woes in the retail sector.

All are true in my mind. People whomever choose to think evil or actualize hurting people are the problem. hugs
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Thank you so much for writing again.

How is it denied that halloween is the type of holiday which can been seen differently?

Even Valentines is seen thru different eyes, some as solicitation to force an expression that should exist every day.

Christmas is seen both as the birth of christ and a marketing scheme to change financial woes in the retail sector.

All are true in my mind. People whomever choose to think evil or actualize hurting people are the problem. hugs
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I view all pagan holidays as scripture defines them.

Halloween, Christmas, Easter, Valentines Day, St. Patrick Day are all secular pagan observances steeped in tradition of those whom God chose to smite from the earth for practicing.

They all are decried as being unprofitable in scripture for those who partake and engage in them.

Christians are called to come out of the world. The world practices these pagan festivities of which God is not pleased as scripture expressly states.

The World seeks to supplant Gods purpose with those imaginations of the carnal mind.

Romans 8:9 Context

6For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. 9But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 10And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. 12Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

The only point I truly wish to express is that all of our choices are conscience ones.

A professed Christian should make informed choices based upon the will of God as exampled by biblical scripture and not our own.

Israel continually adopted pagan customs and rites and were punished for them.

These same rituals are played out in secular holidays even today now in our time and scripture says that those who partake in them have no hope of salvation.

It is not I that say this, but God and Christ who is the Word.

Joshua 24:15
“And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.” [link to www.kingjamesbibleonline.org (secure)]
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You are blessed in belief for your Holy Father. I respect Him.

I embrace my spirituality believing all of all God's creatures were beautiful even after mankind saw and conveyed them as evil...the most dangerous creature is mankind.

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I just returned from a friend's funeral. The whole place was maskless, 100+ chatting f2f old folks, jabbed or not...
I was really shocked at how open and carefree everyone in church is...no fear.
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I just returned from a friend's funeral. The whole place was maskless, 100+ chatting f2f old folks, jabbed or not...
I was really shocked at how open and carefree everyone in church is...no fear.
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:fryshocked: peace

*sorry to hear you had a friend pass over.
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:fryshocked: peace

*sorry to hear you had a friend pass over.
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Thank you, she was graceful in all things.

She was an amazingly beautiful lady who did small things with big heart, gave thousands of boxes of food to people who relied on the church for needs....extraordinary.

Now, I have a cough and sniffles, taking zinc, dandelion root, claritin, etc. I'm sure there was enough vaxx-shedding breath in the room to take a few down.

#not ok
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Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.
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Beautiful, I will remember you...and your words for me
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grouphug Hope you are well today.
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“Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's a heaven for?” -Robert Browning

I think it's more about new/changes/reforming self than heaven.





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