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Sue the school they are endangering the lives of the students.
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My child is in 2nd grade, it's about 90 degrees outside and no shade. After lunch they go to recess.

When recess is over they have the kids lineup and take them inside.

Today some children were talking when they were in line so they had everyone sit in the sun and wait there at least 5 minutes before they were allowed back inside. My child described it as torture.

The children that were still talking were then forced to run a lap around the basketball courts.

My question, is this form of punishment ok? My child wasn't even one of the ones talking.

I spent 5 minutes outside in the direct sun today and I was sweating hard. But at least I could walk over into the shade if I wanted.
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When I was in high school we had two a day football practices in the summer, in texas, and nobody got heat stroke.

And we went full bore all day.
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Yup. Same here. We also did not wear helmets and often rode in the back of pickup trucks. We swam in muddy, leach infested ponds and threw fire crackers at each other when we weren't getting shot with bb guns. Kids these days are fat and sit around playing video all day. They could stand to sweat a little...
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WATCHING TV AND AND PLAYING XBOX WILL DO THAT TOO YA. WHEN I WAS A KID, I WALKED 19 MILES ONE WAY TO GO TO SCHOOL. THEN I BECOME A MAIL MAN, TO GET AWAY FROM THE WIFE. THEN I BECOME A LAWYER TO GET AWAY FROM HER. THEN I BECOME A HITMAN, THEN FINALLY AN INMATE.
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WATCHING TV AND AND PLAYING XBOX WILL DO THAT TOO YA. WHEN I WAS A KID, I WALKED 19 MILES ONE WAY TO GO TO SCHOOL. THEN I BECOME A MAIL MAN, TO GET AWAY FROM THE WIFE. THEN I BECOME A LAWYER TO GET AWAY FROM HER. THEN I BECOME A HITMAN, THEN FINALLY AN INMATE.
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When I was in high school we had two a day football practices in the summer, in texas, and nobody got heat stroke.

And we went full bore all day.
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Yup. Same here. We also did not wear helmets and often rode in the back of pickup trucks. We swam in muddy, leach infested ponds and threw fire crackers at each other when we weren't getting shot with bb guns. Kids these days are fat and sit around playing video all day. They could stand to sweat a little...
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We were the same way.

Grew up riding bulls and anything else we could find, and swimming in stock tanks on our ranch.

Kids these days are pussies.
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Don’t worry about what happened outside, OP. After they went in, the teacher probably taught them all about sodomy.
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Sun damage skin I not right, it's child abuse and can cause cancer when they age.

Stop letting others raise your kids if you really care.
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You are turning your son into a pussy if he cant handle 5 minutes in the sun

Before video games us kids would spend the entire day out in the sun playing baseball and other sports.

Try working construction out in the sun with 20or 30 pounds of tools strapted to you in 100 degree weather.

This is why kids are weak and stupid now...because parents are way to over protective.
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Parents crying about discipline are making weak assed kids. When I was a kid playing outside and running around all day at 90 degrees+ was a good time.
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My complaint would center around EVERYONE BEING PUNISHED rather than the offenders.

That crap has always pissed me off, and it sends the wrong signals to little minds.
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Collective punishment just pits the kids against each other as well as authority. It's a technique used to break the will of dissenters by social out-casting.

Has no place in the discipline of children.
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Making them sit in silence is fine. It's a good punishment. I did it when I taught in China.

Doing it outside, in uncomfortable conditions, is dangerous and abuse.

Like others said, you can take them out of there. I met a mother who homeschooled her kids once. They met other homeschooling parents, and formed a group, so the kids would go out every day.

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Collective punishment just pits the kids against each other as well as authority. It's a technique used to break the will of dissenters by social out-casting.

Has no place in the discipline of children.
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My child is in 2nd grade, it's about 90 degrees outside and no shade. After lunch they go to recess.

When recess is over they have the kids lineup and take them inside.

Today some children were talking when they were in line so they had everyone sit in the sun and wait there at least 5 minutes before they were allowed back inside. My child described it as torture.

The children that were still talking were then forced to run a lap around the basketball courts.

My question, is this form of punishment ok? My child wasn't even one of the ones talking.

I spent 5 minutes outside in the direct sun today and I was sweating hard. But at least I could walk over into the shade if I wanted.
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Five whole minutes? It's a wonder they didn't get heat stroke. Tell your kid to shut up and listen to the teachers.
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Well it's not anything out of the ordinary but not very nice punishing the whole group like we are living under communism. I remember when I was in fourth grade some kids acting up in class instead of the teacher sending them to the principle office he decided to punish the whole class instead by making us sit in our seats the whole lunch period without lunch. I usually went home for lunch and my mother was worried when I didn't come home and when she found out she was very pissed off at the teacher. That was back in the 1980's so this crap about group punishment has been going on for a long time.
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I realize kids are more protected today and don't spend time playing outside like they used to but running in 90 degree temps is what kids should be doing.

Since kids aren't allowed to be kids anymore and very protected so they aren't used to the heat, this in turn does border on abuse.

Can't have it both ways.

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Nothing bad happened. Just stop now before you contribute to the weakening of society.
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Exact reason I don't have to worry about this kind of passive aggressive treatment. Kid is homeschooled.
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Should kids thatt can't tolerate 5 minutes in the sun attend regular schools? That sounds more like a handicap of some sort.
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Collective punishment just pits the kids against each other as well as authority. It's a technique used to break the will of dissenters by social out-casting.

Has no place in the discipline of children.
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:bfthis1:
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It also teaches you to function as a team.
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Also to function under communism as well as this is collectivist attitude towards crime and punishment where one person does something bad the whole group is punished. It was done in the Soviet Union where they would kill the whole village if one person pissed off the authorities.
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Parents crying about discipline are making weak assed kids. When I was a kid playing outside and running around all day at 90 degrees+ was a good time.
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I was thinking the same.

Everyone today is pampered - yes, US, TOO.....

We can't stand being outside in the heat. But when most of us were young, we played and walked around in the heat all day long,

didn't we, OP???
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Collective punishment just pits the kids against each other as well as authority. It's a technique used to break the will of dissenters by social out-casting.

Has no place in the discipline of children.
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bfthis1
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It also teaches you to function as a team.
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Also to function under communism as well as this is collectivist attitude towards crime and punishment where one person does something bad the whole group is punished. It was done in the Soviet Union where they would kill the whole village if one person pissed off the authorities.
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My child is in 2nd grade, it's about 90 degrees outside and no shade. After lunch they go to recess.

When recess is over they have the kids lineup and take them inside.

Today some children were talking when they were in line so they had everyone sit in the sun and wait there at least 5 minutes before they were allowed back inside. My child described it as torture.

The children that were still talking were then forced to run a lap around the basketball courts.

My question, is this form of punishment ok? My child wasn't even one of the ones talking.

I spent 5 minutes outside in the direct sun today and I was sweating hard. But at least I could walk over into the shade if I wanted.
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It was only 5 minutes, not an hour.

They should be following rules.
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No, absolutely not okay. I work in a school setting and this teacher abused her power by making the students uncomfortable. She or he sounds like they lack the ability to discipline a class without fear or anger, which means he/ she is not fit to educate your child.
I wish more parents would stand up to shitty teachers and policies. I spoke out in a meeting yesterday after parents asked if their deaf child could have a mask excusal. I said yes, based on their diagnosis, and they should ask for it, and an administration official said they could not. Those parents should have said well I want it and they did not. Fight for your children!!! These people are not smart.
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I think kids need to toughen up.

This "child abuse" talk for 5 minutes in the sun is retarded.

I wonder what state op is in.
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I definitely didn't say child abuse. I presented the facts as neutral and well as I could, but they were stated by a 7 year old. Who doesn't lie and tells us about the day every day. After repeated questions, the story has not changed, and as this was dozens, maybe a hundred or more children, I believe we aren't the only ones hearing these heart wrenching facts about young children enduring extreme punishment.

Midwest here, extreme heat, uv, few clouds, at least 50% humidity today. Trying to pin down as many facts as possible about this incident.
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Collective punishment just pits the kids against each other as well as authority. It's a technique used to break the will of dissenters by social out-casting.

Has no place in the discipline of children.
 Quoting: Robot Emotions


bfthis1
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It also teaches you to function as a team.
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Lazy method. Much better ways which require more effort
on the trainer.

I'm no fan of feely good mushy hand holding methods.

But that is a Trainer's cop-out method.

Lots of sound, positive ways to build camaraderie and
Team spirit.

Lazy method was employed here.

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Parents crying about discipline are making weak assed kids. When I was a kid playing outside and running around all day at 90 degrees+ was a good time.
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I was thinking the same.

Everyone today is pampered - yes, US, TOO.....

We can't stand being outside in the heat. But when most of us were young, we played and walked around in the heat all day long,

didn't we, OP???
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We used to have more mellow yellow sun that wasn't as strong and didn't feel like you were under magnifying glass being cooked. Now the sun is white hot and people burn real quick now. It's not a fair comparison to compare the more gentle sun of the past with the brutal white hot one we have now.
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No, absolutely not okay. I work in a school setting and this teacher abused her power by making the students uncomfortable. She or he sounds like they lack the ability to discipline a class without fear or anger, which means he/ she is not fit to educate your child.
I wish more parents would stand up to shitty teachers and policies. I spoke out in a meeting yesterday after parents asked if their deaf child could have a mask excusal. I said yes, based on their diagnosis, and they should ask for it, and an administration official said they could not. Those parents should have said well I want it and they did not. Fight for your children!!! These people are not smart.
 Quoting: Salty Potato


No, absolutely not okay. I work in a school setting and this teacher abused her power by making the students uncomfortable. She or he sounds like they lack the ability to discipline a class without fear or anger, which means he/ she is not fit to educate your child.
I wish more parents would stand up to shitty teachers and policies. I spoke out in a meeting yesterday after parents asked if their deaf child could have a mask excusal. I said yes, based on their diagnosis, and they should ask for it, and an administration official said they could not. Those parents should have said well I want it and they did not. Fight for your children!!! These people are not smart who are making these policies and educating your children. I am astounded by their stupidity every day.
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Collective punishment just pits the kids against each other as well as authority. It's a technique used to break the will of dissenters by social out-casting.

Has no place in the discipline of children.
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:bfthis1:
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It also teaches you to function as a team.
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Remember, this is the same argument that insinuates all white people are guilty of the sins of slavery, i.e. reparations.

Sounds a lot like "we're all in this together" talk too.

No one is guilty for the actions of another... period.

Public school is nothing more than commie training.

Most commie teachers have no business pushing a mop, let alone taking care of children.

Take your kids out of public schools, if you love them.
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I think kids need to toughen up.

This "child abuse" talk for 5 minutes in the sun is retarded.

I wonder what state op is in.
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I definitely didn't say child abuse. I presented the facts as neutral and well as I could, but they were stated by a 7 year old. Who doesn't lie and tells us about the day every day. After repeated questions, the story has not changed, and as this was dozens, maybe a hundred or more children, I believe we aren't the only ones hearing these heart wrenching facts about young children enduring extreme punishment.

Midwest here, extreme heat, uv, few clouds, at least 50% humidity today. Trying to pin down as many facts as possible about this incident.
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My son is 11 and in jrotc and the sarge runs the shit out them boys.

No one has fallen out yet.
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