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I need a ruling from GLP concerning something the school did today.

 
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I need all parameters in order to be able to judge.
What's the age of a "second grade" child?

Masktarding is crimmynol per definition, but i need to know details to decide my punishment.

(Waterboarding, pulling off limbs with 4 horses running in 4 different directions, and/or lamp post hanging)
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7 years old.

Masks are not currently required at the school, only on the bus.

Anything else you want to know? I've answered other questions in previous replies.
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Laps, a bit much. Also talking in line? Who the F cares. Let the kids talk.
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My child is in 2nd grade, it's about 90 degrees outside and no shade. After lunch they go to recess.

When recess is over they have the kids lineup and take them inside.

Today some children were talking when they were in line so they had everyone sit in the sun and wait there at least 5 minutes before they were allowed back inside. My child described it as torture.

The children that were still talking were then forced to run a lap around the basketball courts.

My question, is this form of punishment ok? My child wasn't even one of the ones talking.

I spent 5 minutes outside in the direct sun today and I was sweating hard. But at least I could walk over into the shade if I wanted.
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demand the teachers do the same or be sued
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No, heat stroke is a real dangerous killer.



Now, take it from me, don't be a Karen in dealing with this. Just go in and quietly tell the principal that you think lap running in the heat is a bad liability issue but you don't want to make a big deal about this incident.
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09/17/2021 05:21 PM
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No, heat stroke is a real dangerous killer.



Now, take it from me, don't be a Karen in dealing with this. Just go in and quietly tell the principal that you think lap running in the heat is a bad liability issue but you don't want to make a big deal about this incident.
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Thank you. Waiting for Monday when we are supposed to hear back from the school. If we don't get an acceptable answer we will escalate to higher authorities.

Heat stroke is a serious issue. As this happened to all students during recess, probably half the school, I am hoping other parents hear similar stories from their children and complain to the school.
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09/17/2021 05:27 PM
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Parents crying about discipline are making weak assed kids. When I was a kid playing outside and running around all day at 90 degrees+ was a good time.
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I'm certainly not crying. Yeah we've all played outside in the sun, but at least if we felt hot we could tell someone or walk over somewhere in the shade. And we weren't forced to run laps either. This is recess.

As another poster mentioned, children can't regulate their body temperature as well either. I've never heard my child describe anything as being tortured before.
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Don't listen to this asshole. The sun's output today is much different from when most of these pissants were in school. Plus it wasn't specified if the kids were sitting on concrete between two concrete structures, like a concrete wall and concrete sidewalk. The presence or lack thereof will be a huge factor as well. Being in direct sunlight sitting on concrete where it meets a concrete or brick wall with no air movement after playing hard on the playground would indeed be torture for anyone. Concrete has reflective properties that rival mirrors and it and the wall could have been radiating infrared radiation topping 150 degrees Fahrenheit. Without a breeze that's like literally sitting inside an oven. This should be made aware to higher-ups.
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09/17/2021 05:29 PM
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Boo fucking hoo!
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My child is in 2nd grade, it's about 90 degrees outside and no shade. After lunch they go to recess.

When recess is over they have the kids lineup and take them inside.

Today some children were talking when they were in line so they had everyone sit in the sun and wait there at least 5 minutes before they were allowed back inside. My child described it as torture.

The children that were still talking were then forced to run a lap around the basketball courts.

My question, is this form of punishment ok? My child wasn't even one of the ones talking.

I spent 5 minutes outside in the direct sun today and I was sweating hard. But at least I could walk over into the shade if I wanted.
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why are you still sending your child to school, may I ask?
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Parents crying about discipline are making weak assed kids. When I was a kid playing outside and running around all day at 90 degrees+ was a good time.
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I'm certainly not crying. Yeah we've all played outside in the sun, but at least if we felt hot we could tell someone or walk over somewhere in the shade. And we weren't forced to run laps either. This is recess.

As another poster mentioned, children can't regulate their body temperature as well either. I've never heard my child describe anything as being tortured before.
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Whatever….the pussification of America continues full steam ahead.
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Discuss the pussification of hiding your identity behind an AC mask on here, coward.
If it isn't in The Bible then it is just conspiracy theory.
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:scrumpbump:
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Thanks for the unexpected pine.
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am i right ?
someone spoke when it was a no talking time ?yes ?

so why the hell were all punished & why wouldn't writing 50 times " i respect the rules " be enough ?

LOL we went to catholic schools back in the late 50s&up & definitely there was PUNISHMENT given out,
BUT this is not right outside in the heat.
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09/17/2021 05:52 PM
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School board public meeting. Have it put on the agenda if you can. Spread the word and tell the whole town to meet at the next meeting.
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Doesn't seem like a big deal to me. 90 in September? Are you in Texas?

When I was a kid, they would paddle you. Guaranteed that is more extreme the sitting or running in the sunshine (which we also did plenty of).

Your kid is not a glass doll.
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[imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)]

Paramedic and firefighter. I'm former triathlete including a half Ironman in 2000. I have extensive backcountry hiking experience and high desert hiking experience. I have remote and wilderness medical training.

It's not only dumb, it's fucking dangerous. I took exercise physiology in college as an elective. I've been a workout junkie my entire life. You can kill a well acclimatized adult in that situation, a 7-9 year old, I would consider it child abuse.

Of course, my momma tossed me in Western Oklahoma cotton field for five weeks when I was a kid, so, I'm a tad sensitive to the plight of wee chillins.
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Child abuse sponsored by the government, are you surprised? If you love your child, you will home-school or put them in a good private school. God's peace be with you.
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I need all parameters in order to be able to judge.
What's the age of a "second grade" child?

Masktarding is crimmynol per definition, but i need to know details to decide my punishment.

(Waterboarding, pulling off limbs with 4 horses running in 4 different directions, and/or lamp post hanging)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78453369


Second graders start age 7 and turn age 8 usually
These would be 7 or 8 years with a couple 6 and 9 possibly

Should not have been seated in the sun

This teacher is using discipline meant for much older kids and military

The laps could have done a little kid like that in AFTER playing outside for at least 30 minutes and being sat in sun before - and probably not given water until they came in
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09/17/2021 06:06 PM
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"Talking in line".

Tyrants like to start when they're young...
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09/17/2021 06:07 PM
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I think kids need to toughen up.

This "child abuse" talk for 5 minutes in the sun is retarded.

I wonder what state op is in.
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https://imgur.com/a/AM3jM5c


Paramedic and firefighter. I'm former triathlete including a half Ironman in 2000. I have extensive backcountry hiking experience and high desert hiking experience. I have remote and wilderness medical training.

It's not only dumb, it's fucking dangerous. I took exercise physiology in college as an elective. I've been a workout junkie my entire life. You can kill a well acclimatized adult in that situation, a 7-9 year old, I would consider it child abuse.

Of course, my momma tossed me in Western Oklahoma cotton field for five weeks when I was a kid, so, I'm a tad sensitive to the plight of wee chillins.
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It wasn't strenuous. Your table of ultimate wisdom does not apply. By the way, you don't need a table to figure out if you should be running a 10k in 100F+. Ffs, people are dumb these days....
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My child is in 2nd grade, it's about 90 degrees outside and no shade. After lunch they go to recess.

When recess is over they have the kids lineup and take them inside.

Today some children were talking when they were in line so they had everyone sit in the sun and wait there at least 5 minutes before they were allowed back inside. My child described it as torture.

The children that were still talking were then forced to run a lap around the basketball courts.

My question, is this form of punishment ok? My child wasn't even one of the ones talking.

I spent 5 minutes outside in the direct sun today and I was sweating hard. But at least I could walk over into the shade if I wanted.
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Are you in MO outside of Kansas City?
I just a very similar conversation about this almost same situation today with a vice principle.

Am not happy about how am finding they are treating the children. On my end, it was concerning a 1st grader.
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Parents crying about discipline are making weak assed kids. When I was a kid playing outside and running around all day at 90 degrees+ was a good time.
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I'm certainly not crying. Yeah we've all played outside in the sun, but at least if we felt hot we could tell someone or walk over somewhere in the shade. And we weren't forced to run laps either. This is recess.

As another poster mentioned, children can't regulate their body temperature as well either. I've never heard my child describe anything as being tortured before.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80379140


Don't listen to this asshole. The sun's output today is much different from when most of these pissants were in school. Plus it wasn't specified if the kids were sitting on concrete between two concrete structures, like a concrete wall and concrete sidewalk. The presence or lack thereof will be a huge factor as well. Being in direct sunlight sitting on concrete where it meets a concrete or brick wall with no air movement after playing hard on the playground would indeed be torture for anyone. Concrete has reflective properties that rival mirrors and it and the wall could have been radiating infrared radiation topping 150 degrees Fahrenheit. Without a breeze that's like literally sitting inside an oven. This should be made aware to higher-ups.
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Fak off pussy - just another person trying to justify being a crybaby -if this if that - suns output at 90 degrees is the same today as 50 years ago - actually less at same temp now that the ozone layer has had some time to repair
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My child is in 2nd grade, it's about 90 degrees outside and no shade. After lunch they go to recess.

When recess is over they have the kids lineup and take them inside.

Today some children were talking when they were in line so they had everyone sit in the sun and wait there at least 5 minutes before they were allowed back inside. My child described it as torture.

The children that were still talking were then forced to run a lap around the basketball courts.

My question, is this form of punishment ok? My child wasn't even one of the ones talking.

I spent 5 minutes outside in the direct sun today and I was sweating hard. But at least I could walk over into the shade if I wanted.
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Absolutely fucked to do that to kids, the end. That heat is no joke, using that as punishment is child abuse, the end
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When I was in high school we had two a day football practices in the summer, in texas, and nobody got heat stroke.

And we went full bore all day.
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Collective punishment just pits the kids against each other as well as authority. It's a technique used to break the will of dissenters by social out-casting.

Has no place in the discipline of children.
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After their harsh punishment of waiting an extra 5 minutes after playing in the heat for 15-30 they went back into their air conditioned school-LOL
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I'm a mom, oldest child is 31, youngest is 15...I've been raising kids a long time. First, don't trust anyone with your children except yourself or family ..nobody...I homeschooled Mine for the most part, but I didn't have to work despite being a single parent ...I would pull them out and try to work at home. Public schools are secretly giving young kids covid shots anyway ..a friend's child ( also 2nd grade) in Michigan came home and told her mom...thank God they didn't succeed but when you let your child go to govt public schools, you basically sign over your rights...they do what they want with your child...when they feel like it...public schools aren't designed to learn...they are made to create more little tax paying slaves that are all alike...they look down on individuality and gifted Children and chastise them if they are different...they want robots that comply and obey...the history they teach are mostly all lies too ...total bullshit...they are indoctrination centers at best...your child's education is your responsibility,not a stranger's. Good luck.
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Why would they punish them with sitting in the sun for 5 minutes if it wasn't to make them uncomfortable. The punishment is a little harsh for the crime. Why not take 5 minutes off of their next recess?

Sitting children in the sun for punishment is taking a risk that any one of them may suffer heat stroke!

So, from a nurse's point of view, that teacher has a problem. I have no problem with punishing bad behavior, but this ain't the kind of punishment they deserve. The teacher is obviously immature & angry!

Complain to the principle!
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I agree. Losing 5 min. off the next recess would be the logical thing to do. sitting kids out in the hot sun for 5 minutes isn't to punish its done to cause physical pain.

I would ask the principal for a meeting with the teacher to discuss your concerns.
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Collective punishment just pits the kids against each other as well as authority. It's a technique used to break the will of dissenters by social out-casting.

Has no place in the discipline of children.
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