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orangecrush
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ST. FLOYD OF FENTANYL
User ID: 44411968 United States 09/16/2021 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it financial based? Butthurt? Click 'Add to Ignore List' under my username Si vis pacem, para bellum VACCINES ARE THE LEADING CAUSE OF COINCIDENCES 'Your user name here makes me want to punch you in the fucking face, you sick fucking diseased cunt' Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8100888 |
BoatyMcBoatface
(OP) User ID: 77825331 United States 09/16/2021 10:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can you maintain this service remotely or do you need to hire people who are dedicated only to you? Quoting: pool I can maintain this service remotely. I just need a little help from my GLP friends to understand what I am up against. ```````````````` ````__/\__`````` ~~~\____/~~~~ .~~..~~~....~~~ ~..~~~....~~~~ Thoughts do not come from you nor God; you do not create thoughts; you are not your thoughts; every thought is a lie. - 2 Corinthians 10:5 - [link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76423614 United States 09/16/2021 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | one last time ... how big is the demand and what is the current price point? you were will to pay $50/mo, how many others will also? @ $360/day you'll need 216 clients paying you $50 to break even without making one cent in profit or payment for your time investment |
BoatyMcBoatface
(OP) User ID: 77825331 United States 09/16/2021 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | one last time ... how big is the demand and what is the current price point? you were will to pay $50/mo, how many others will also? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76423614 @ $360/day you'll need 216 clients paying you $50 to break even without making one cent in profit or payment for your time investment My calculation for the full-blown service I want to offer = $360/day. I don't have to offer that. But I want to. I can do whatever I want. ```````````````` ````__/\__`````` ~~~\____/~~~~ .~~..~~~....~~~ ~..~~~....~~~~ Thoughts do not come from you nor God; you do not create thoughts; you are not your thoughts; every thought is a lie. - 2 Corinthians 10:5 - [link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)] |
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The Rickest Rick Sanchez
User ID: 65121889 United States 09/16/2021 10:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who is already doing it and how do they make $$ from it? Can you compete? Location, Location, Location - even online there are equivalents like data center regions and providers and where you advertise or make the actual sale. You won't be driving mass traffic to a new unknown site. Start small and grow it gradually until you can tell if it is worth it. The universe is basically an animal. It grazes on the ordinary. It creates infinite idiots just to eat them. The Rickest Rick Sanchez comments are meant for entertainment purposes only and should not be construed to reflect the feelings and opinions, implied or expressed, of the author. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76423614 United States 09/16/2021 10:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | one last time ... how big is the demand and what is the current price point? you were will to pay $50/mo, how many others will also? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76423614 @ $360/day you'll need 216 clients paying you $50 to break even without making one cent in profit or payment for your time investment My calculation for the full-blown service I want to offer = $360/day. I don't have to offer that. But I want to. I can do whatever I want. you know what, i'll ask one last time ... how big is the demand for the service? competitors? size of the vertical in dollars? of course you can do whatever you want. it's your baby. maybe you should consider answering the whole question since you're asking for the advice? i've only got ~ 25 years experience as an entrepreneur so what do i know, right? on second thought forget it, i have better things to do with my time than waste it trying to coax the answers necessary to help you. good. luck. |
The Rickest Rick Sanchez
User ID: 65121889 United States 09/16/2021 10:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This clearly sounds like a "tech thing". If you want to reach out to me privately with more details I could help you with some perspective. I have worked as a Network and Systems admin and Monitoring engineer for 20 years and currently work at a company that is the second largest of its type in North America. If this is related to data storage / transmission / analytics I might have some insight. The universe is basically an animal. It grazes on the ordinary. It creates infinite idiots just to eat them. The Rickest Rick Sanchez comments are meant for entertainment purposes only and should not be construed to reflect the feelings and opinions, implied or expressed, of the author. |
rccola
User ID: 80392109 United States 09/16/2021 10:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does your service have potential but insurable product liabilities? In which realm of business might those lie? Does it require bonding? Will you be working with corporate entities or personal/residential clients? What is your expected ROI% ? I feel like a panelist on "What's My Line" Last Edited by rccola on 09/16/2021 10:17 PM |
BoatyMcBoatface
(OP) User ID: 77825331 United States 09/16/2021 10:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | one last time ... how big is the demand and what is the current price point? you were will to pay $50/mo, how many others will also? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76423614 @ $360/day you'll need 216 clients paying you $50 to break even without making one cent in profit or payment for your time investment My calculation for the full-blown service I want to offer = $360/day. I don't have to offer that. But I want to. I can do whatever I want. you know what, i'll ask one last time ... how big is the demand for the service? competitors? size of the vertical in dollars? of course you can do whatever you want. it's your baby. maybe you should consider answering the whole question since you're asking for the advice? i've only got ~ 25 years experience as an entrepreneur so what do i know, right? on second thought forget it, i have better things to do with my time than waste it trying to coax the answers necessary to help you. good. luck. Thanks AC. I appreciate your input. ```````````````` ````__/\__`````` ~~~\____/~~~~ .~~..~~~....~~~ ~..~~~....~~~~ Thoughts do not come from you nor God; you do not create thoughts; you are not your thoughts; every thought is a lie. - 2 Corinthians 10:5 - [link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)] |
BoatyMcBoatface
(OP) User ID: 77825331 United States 09/16/2021 10:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lets try from another angle. Quoting: rccola Does your service have potential but insurable product liabilities? In which realm of business might those lie? Does it require bonding? Will you be working with corporate entities or personal/residential clients? What is your expected ROI% ? I feel like a panelist on "What's My Line" Nah, none of that stuff. ```````````````` ````__/\__`````` ~~~\____/~~~~ .~~..~~~....~~~ ~..~~~....~~~~ Thoughts do not come from you nor God; you do not create thoughts; you are not your thoughts; every thought is a lie. - 2 Corinthians 10:5 - [link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80237993 United States 09/16/2021 10:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This clearly sounds like a "tech thing". Quoting: The Rickest Rick Sanchez If you want to reach out to me privately with more details I could help you with some perspective. I have worked as a Network and Systems admin and Monitoring engineer for 20 years and currently work at a company that is the second largest of its type in North America. If this is related to data storage / transmission / analytics I might have some insight. I am a digital marketing consultant, Web designer, graphic designer, SEO, Adwords, etc. I have used my own solutions, white label and god forbid MLM (which is a mistake, btw). To me, this is a classic call for help in getting a web marking plan in place with a web presence, a squeeze page for sign ups and analytics for conversions as well as drip campaigns (email and text marketing for on the fence leads). The cost to run is hard to advise about as a lack of details are present. Setting up for testing the market shouldn't cost much if you are able to do it on your own. Then it comes down to what you pay per sign-up per month vs what they ay you. Again, hard to say with lack of details. Honestly, go in with a budget and hire someone to help you that you can trust. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71318064 United States 09/16/2021 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Impossible to give you advice without know what the service that you are going to provide is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80574738 I don't think that's a true statement. I supplied costs, and a basic plan idea. ..whether or not it's a viable service is entirely dependent on what the service is. Costs and "basic plan idea" are irrelevant without it. $360/day for a shoeshine business is completely different from, say, $360/day for a vaccine free fellatio business... |
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BoatyMcBoatface
(OP) User ID: 77825331 United States 09/16/2021 10:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is what you might laugh at or expect. All that you want. Good for you. You get what you predict. ```````````````` ````__/\__`````` ~~~\____/~~~~ .~~..~~~....~~~ ~..~~~....~~~~ Thoughts do not come from you nor God; you do not create thoughts; you are not your thoughts; every thought is a lie. - 2 Corinthians 10:5 - [link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80574738 United States 09/16/2021 10:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Impossible to give you advice without know what the service that you are going to provide is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80574738 I don't think that's a true statement. I supplied costs, and a basic plan idea. Sure what do I know about making money..... From your statement I will tell you its probably not viable. Are you trying to make a little money or make something worth millions of dollars. My advice is only good for the latter. |
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Avenger1
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80881244 09/16/2021 10:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Impossible to give you advice without know what the service that you are going to provide is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80574738 I don't think that's a true statement. I supplied costs, and a basic plan idea. You are wrong OP Example. CAT MILKING SERVICE business would not be as viable as Food delivery service due to demand. Costs and basic plan ideas have nothing to do with demand and biz viability. Think about it some more. Don’t throw your money away. . |
Justme C'est Moi
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80556822 United States 09/16/2021 11:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can tell you a little bit about it. I paid $50/per month for what should have been real-time streaming data. The data sucked and was slow as fuck. So, I decided I would build something better that could compete with that company. I have that working at a basic level, and if I can charge $50/month it will be profitable provided I have enough users. You got a marketing budget? Not really.. I'm just a dude trying to break out of the matrix. You need to take a business class. First, you don't know what a margin is. At least watch some Shark Tank, Second, your idea is terrible. You will be crushed like a cockroach by larger companies. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35738720 United States 09/16/2021 11:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am an entrepreneur and quite a successful one. I don’t actually know what you’re asking with this post though. If you’re asking for a risk assessment every business has inherent risk. The only controlable you have is your own work ethic. Don’t quit and you will succeed as long as your product is good. What kind of profit margin‘s are you hoping to make off each customer? Quoting: Full Blown American what I learned in my 15 years as a sole proprietor "as long as the product is good" That was my #1 goal. and my #1 mistake! THE REALITY IS #1 is marketing |
Avenger1
User ID: 79174553 United States 09/16/2021 11:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface I can tell you a little bit about it. I paid $50/per month for what should have been real-time streaming data. The data sucked and was slow as fuck. So, I decided I would build something better that could compete with that company. I have that working at a basic level, and if I can charge $50/month it will be profitable provided I have enough users. You got a marketing budget? Not really.. I'm just a dude trying to break out of the matrix. You need to take a business class. First, you don't know what a margin is. At least watch some Shark Tank, Second, your idea is terrible. You will be crushed like a cockroach by larger companies. Mr. Wonderful! "Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes" "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79204970 United States 09/16/2021 11:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm looking into providing a service that I am developing. Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface I just did a couple of tests, and based on those tests, it looks like it's going to cost me $360/day to fully do what I want. That's a lot of money. I can reduce those costs probably by 20% with some tweaking to how I'm developing it, but it's still a lot of money for a startup. I am thinking of building a landing page with a signup list. That would give me some idea of how many are interested in using the service and help me determine if that service would be financially viable. I would need a lot of signups to break even/be profitable, so there's a marketing expense involved in getting those signups. I could probably work on that marketing myself and reduce that expense. The full-blown service doesn't have to happen immediately. I could offer a smaller subset of the service initially and make the costs even lower at first. But I really want to offer the opportunity for the full-blown service right out of the gate. I have never run a business before. But I have thought about doing so quite a bit. Any GLPers have any feedback? I know this post is vague about details of what the business is/will be (that's intentional). Any/all feedback will be very much appreciated, and I think other GLPers can learn from this thread too. . I would use your service 100%, just because I can and I want. You have great idea and I love it! Do it, I can't wait to be your customer. . |
A-Aron
User ID: 78905132 United States 09/16/2021 11:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | one last time ... how big is the demand and what is the current price point? you were will to pay $50/mo, how many others will also? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76423614 @ $360/day you'll need 216 clients paying you $50 to break even without making one cent in profit or payment for your time investment My calculation for the full-blown service I want to offer = $360/day. I don't have to offer that. But I want to. I can do whatever I want. you know what, i'll ask one last time ... how big is the demand for the service? competitors? size of the vertical in dollars? of course you can do whatever you want. it's your baby. maybe you should consider answering the whole question since you're asking for the advice? i've only got ~ 25 years experience as an entrepreneur so what do i know, right? on second thought forget it, i have better things to do with my time than waste it trying to coax the answers necessary to help you. good. luck. Entrepreneur here. Clearly you are protective of your idea. More info about the nature of the service and target market would be helpful. With that said: What AC said above. I'll add this: Do you have enough capital to build an inexpensive, perhaps scaled-back version of your service to provide for free or small incentive to a small test group of prospective customers within your target market? If so, I encourage you to do so. You will need to decipher their feedback based on the understanding they know it's not a full blown product. Their perceived value of the functionality/purpose of your product based on your scaled-back version is what you want to learn about. Temporarily throw out the feedback related to "it doesn't do this or that" if you are planning to include that in the full blown service. You can, however, use the "it doesn't do this or that" info to add/change/delete features that you may not have thought about. If it's a computer service, set up a test machine on a cheap desktop computer, for instance. If it's a whorehouse, use a motel room at first before you build that Hugh Hefner mansion. -Theep doughts by Hand Jackley. |
REaliZe
User ID: 80781908 United States 09/16/2021 11:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It’ll be too unforgiving to start a business with a running cost of a car payment a day... You definitely need a proof of concept, and the ability to start small then ramp up as you achieve more subscriptions; since you need 200+ just to break even, you will have a lot of ramping up to do... There's. A. H0le. In. The. Sky. |