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Mechanics? What is a plug and play swap for a 2006 5.4 Triton engine?

 
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Re: Mechanics? What is a plug and play swap for a 2006 5.4 Triton engine?
Get a car with a good engine to begin with?
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BUY A TOYOTA
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Re: Mechanics? What is a plug and play swap for a 2006 5.4 Triton engine?
If you can't figure this out, might I suggest a replaced oil pump... Not sure if that year has the plastic chain guides or not, but that is an additional replacement to be made (replace with metal). I do know that this works on '04. Not sure if the problem is the same.

Alberta native here. Have had and dealt with a lot of F150s...
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I should elaborate; one of the biggest design defects of the older engines is not getting enough oil to them. This causes sludge and eventually broken plastic guides. After that, you have what I like to call a "slightly used early 2000s stock ford engine". Aka it's FRIGGED.
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Maybe Ford should start buying engines from GM or Toyota.
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If that's what you want then by all means buy GM or Tonka toy......meanwhile Ill drag ya out with my 01 7.3....
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7.3 what? Is that a diesel?
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Re: Mechanics? What is a plug and play swap for a 2006 5.4 Triton engine?
Sorry op, garbage car. Sell it before it costs you money.

Cam phasers, oil passages clog, junk trans, suspension components, bearings, hubs.
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Re: Mechanics? What is a plug and play swap for a 2006 5.4 Triton engine?
Get a car with a good engine to begin with?
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BUY A TOYOTA
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Everybody seems to know that and the used toyota prices are higher than American equivalents.
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Re: Mechanics? What is a plug and play swap for a 2006 5.4 Triton engine?
I believe a 4.6L will swap right in there. Make sure to try to find the 3 valve version of the 4.6. These started manufacture in mid 2010. The older 2 valve engines have the very same issues as the 5.4

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Re: Mechanics? What is a plug and play swap for a 2006 5.4 Triton engine?
The equivalent suburban is still a decent vehicle. The 3/4 ton suburban is still pretty desirable today. Expeditions are junk.
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Re: Mechanics? What is a plug and play swap for a 2006 5.4 Triton engine?
Sorry op, garbage car. Sell it before it costs you money.

Cam phasers, oil passages clog, junk trans, suspension components, bearings, hubs.
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It looks great. It's a King Ranch special and even has saddle leather on the seats.. still in perfect condition.
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Re: Mechanics? What is a plug and play swap for a 2006 5.4 Triton engine?
I believe a 4.6L will swap right in there. Make sure to try to find the 3 valve version of the 4.6. These started manufacture in mid 2010. The older 2 valve engines have the very same issues as the 5.4
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That's a thought. I was wanting to go bigger, but the 4.6 might be ok.
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Re: Mechanics? What is a plug and play swap for a 2006 5.4 Triton engine?
The equivalent suburban is still a decent vehicle. The 3/4 ton suburban is still pretty desirable today. Expeditions are junk.
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and it would have an LS engine.
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Re: Mechanics? What is a plug and play swap for a 2006 5.4 Triton engine?
Alright. You guys talked me out of it. I guess it was just the allure of the saddle leather seats that was calling me.
A Triton engine just isn't worth it.
Of the last two Ford's I've owned (early 90's) the paint blew off one, and the oil pump failed on the other and destroyed the engine.
OOps, We got a 96 mustang and it was ok.

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Re: Mechanics? What is a plug and play swap for a 2006 5.4 Triton engine?
Call a junk yard. The larger ones can tell you what interchanges.
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Re: Mechanics? What is a plug and play swap for a 2006 5.4 Triton engine?
Ford made some Excursions with 7.3 powerstroke diesels in them. Turbocharged diesels are powerful and get great mileage.
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Re: Mechanics? What is a plug and play swap for a 2006 5.4 Triton engine?
Watch Car Wizard he won't steer you wrong ( pun intended)
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The more I read about the 5.4, the worse it seems. Why can't Ford make an engine as reliable as honda or toyota?
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I hear ya . I have a '15 Ram with a HEMI and at exactly 108k miles it started with the stuck lifter shit. I bought it with 8k on the ODO and took meticulous care of it. oil changes every 5k or fewer miles. Love the Truck . The ZF transmission is excellent. Pulls my camper great . but everytime I hear that clicking I think "whelp it will leave me stranded one day" Just in case anyone asks Yes I turn off the MDS almost every time I drive it .And no I don't idle a lot. Good luck on the new engine.
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Re: Mechanics? What is a plug and play swap for a 2006 5.4 Triton engine?
I think they got the bugs worked out by then. They are really not a bad engine. Worthy of 300,000 miles or better.

Really don't know of any easy swaps. Ford usually sucks in that aspect.
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The current engine has 200,000 and known problems go from breaking sparkplugs in the hole to timing chain failures in an interference engine..ie bye bye engine. If I could swap engines, this might be a good deal
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If that stuff hasn't happened already it probably won't.

The only thing I would be worried about are cam phasers, which aren't hard to swap.

If the engine sounds good and feels good and the oil is clean it's probably a sound engine.
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Re: Mechanics? What is a plug and play swap for a 2006 5.4 Triton engine?
Sorry op, garbage car. Sell it before it costs you money.

Cam phasers, oil passages clog, junk trans, suspension components, bearings, hubs.
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It looks great. It's a King Ranch special and even has saddle leather on the seats.. still in perfect condition.
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Don't listen to that poster, fords are fine.
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Re: Mechanics? What is a plug and play swap for a 2006 5.4 Triton engine?
The equivalent suburban is still a decent vehicle. The 3/4 ton suburban is still pretty desirable today. Expeditions are junk.
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and it would have an LS engine.
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Yea gm equivalent in good shape will be double price or more opposed to a ford.
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Re: Mechanics? What is a plug and play swap for a 2006 5.4 Triton engine?
I believe a 4.6L will swap right in there. Make sure to try to find the 3 valve version of the 4.6. These started manufacture in mid 2010. The older 2 valve engines have the very same issues as the 5.4
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4.6l 3v are inferior to 5.4 2v.

Not even close.
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Re: Mechanics? What is a plug and play swap for a 2006 5.4 Triton engine?
There is no direct swap. Would require harness swap and pcm.They ran the triton 5.4 3v until 2010ish and decided to scrap it. If your getting timing codes already just find a used one or buy a reman and have the phasers locked and deleted. Do not use your old block for a rebuild. You can attempt to do chains oil pump phasers etc but chances are your cam clearance feeding the phasers the oil is shot too. 20 years experience here. Only truck i trust with my life would be a chevy.
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Re: Mechanics? What is a plug and play swap for a 2006 5.4 Triton engine?
Bolth my 5.4 were great still 180k and 230k did nothing but regular maintenance. Plugs suck doing though.
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Re: Mechanics? What is a plug and play swap for a 2006 5.4 Triton engine?
If you can't figure this out, might I suggest a replaced oil pump... Not sure if that year has the plastic chain guides or not, but that is an additional replacement to be made (replace with metal). I do know that this works on '04. Not sure if the problem is the same.

Alberta native here. Have had and dealt with a lot of F150s...
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I suppose i might consider that and replacing the guides (plastic I think) before there is a problem.
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Jasper offers a rebuilt engine that does away with a lot of the poor engineering by Ford. I've owned the engine you are talking about and it sucks.

I personally want to know the name of the chief engineer in charge of designing the Triton.

Just to talk with, of course.





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