Here is what the deployment of the Russian S-500 means for TPTB | |
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born on the 9th of Av User ID: 78874057 United States 09/18/2021 02:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "In June , Izvestia , citing sources in the Russian Defense Ministry , reported that the S-500 Prometheus would receive special ammunition designed to destroy enemy ballistic missile warheads" "In May , The National Interest magazine stated that the Russian S-500 Prometheus is capable of “killing” the American fifth generation F-22 Raptor and F-35 Lightning II fighters." google translate Last Edited by luke the duke on 09/18/2021 02:23 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72702941 United States 09/18/2021 02:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Российские войска начали получать С-500 The Poke'man C-500 The Scooty Puff Senior of missile defense systems. |
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born on the 9th of Av User ID: 78874057 United States 09/18/2021 04:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "In June , Izvestia , citing sources in the Russian Defense Ministry , reported that the S-500 Prometheus would receive special ammunition designed to destroy enemy ballistic missile warheads" Quoting: luke the duke "In May , The National Interest magazine stated that the Russian S-500 Prometheus is capable of “killing” the American fifth generation F-22 Raptor and F-35 Lightning II fighters." google translate Russia begins rollout of new S-500 air defence system - 1 day ago |
luke the duke
born on the 9th of Av User ID: 78874057 United States 09/18/2021 04:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First batch of Russian-made S-500 system enters service — Deputy PM Produced by the Almaz-Antey Concern, the S-500 air defense system is designed to defeat all possible means of an air and space attack by a potential enemy across the entire range of heights and speeds. [link to tass.com (secure)] from September 16th 2021 |
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Chay-Ophan
User ID: 77752291 United States 09/18/2021 04:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We now know it was an elaborate bluff. Everything about the system - the "leaked" specs, the outrageous price tag, hearings and debates, and even the controversy itself - ALL of it nothing but smoke and mirrors designed to con the Soviets into pissing away their dwindling resources in a desperate bid to stay viable in the nuclear arms race. I suppose it worked when you consider how that decade ended for the Reds. So yeah. the S-500 could very well be a Russian variation on that hustle, at least in some part. But, like I said, we'll probably never know the whole truth. Maybe our kids will, but probably not us. Last Edited by Chay-Ophan on 09/18/2021 04:57 AM ChayOphan |
Chay-Ophan
User ID: 77752291 United States 09/18/2021 05:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Icarus? Nah, just trying to seem clever. Apparently, the S-500 is so bleeding edge that NATO either has yet to create, or perhaps release, a reporting name. The missile itself appears to be of the same lineage as the 9M82 used in the S-300V series and that one's NATO reporting name is "Giant" so there's that - for whatever that's worth. ChayOphan |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80676346 United States 09/18/2021 05:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Delusional. Russians can come up with interesting designs, but when rubber meets road, most of those designs fail. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80877169 So true. Everyone bragged how the S-400 could detect and destroy US and Israeli F-35s, but it never worked. Both countries flew over Russian territory in Syria and Crimea and the planes were never detected. Alert systems were activated manually when the jet engines were heard flying over. From what Russian defectors have told the west, Russian military hardware rarely works as advertised. |
Dalek Uno User ID: 80874056 Germany 09/18/2021 05:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Icarus? Nah, just trying to seem clever. Apparently, the S-500 is so bleeding edge that NATO either has yet to create, or perhaps release, a reporting name. The missile itself appears to be of the same lineage as the 9M82 used in the S-300V series and that one's NATO reporting name is "Giant" so there's that - for whatever that's worth. "Frost Giant" |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 71214588 United States 09/18/2021 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Delusional. Russians can come up with interesting designs, but when rubber meets road, most of those designs fail. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80877169 So true. Everyone bragged how the S-400 could detect and destroy US and Israeli F-35s, but it never worked. Both countries flew over Russian territory in Syria and Crimea and the planes were never detected. Alert systems were activated manually when the jet engines were heard flying over. From what Russian defectors have told the west, Russian military hardware rarely works as advertised. They never fly over Syria. They shoot at Syria from Israel or Lebanon airspaces because they know better. And God forbid an F35 would approach the Russian border with an intent to cross. They are not invisible because otherwise they would be flying over Russia, wouldn't they like they used to with U2. |
Chay-Ophan
User ID: 77752291 United States 09/19/2021 07:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Delusional. Russians can come up with interesting designs, but when rubber meets road, most of those designs fail. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80877169 So true. Everyone bragged how the S-400 could detect and destroy US and Israeli F-35s, but it never worked. Both countries flew over Russian territory in Syria and Crimea and the planes were never detected. Alert systems were activated manually when the jet engines were heard flying over. From what Russian defectors have told the west, Russian military hardware rarely works as advertised. They never fly over Syria. They shoot at Syria from Israel or Lebanon airspaces because they know better. And God forbid an F35 would approach the Russian border with an intent to cross. They are not invisible because otherwise they would be flying over Russia, wouldn't they like they used to with U2. Reputable sources claim that American stealth assets have been visible to Russia almost from the onset of our earliest programs. And not necessarily due to technological superiority on Russia's part. In fact, their comparative lack of resources forces Russian military thinkers to think that much harder often resulting in ingenious innovations and unorthodox counters to our top-shelf hardware. Example: while still deep in ultra-secret development, the highly advanced, unorthodox shape of the SR-71 Blackbird was already known to the Russians. Before the aircraft had even made a single test flight, the program had already lost some of its advantage. And the culprit was nothing more than the radar test model's shadow. Of course, owing to some very clever and attentive Russian analysts with a lot more brains than bells and whistles. ChayOphan |
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Mikhailman
User ID: 76811228 United States 09/19/2021 08:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GITLER KAPUT! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71214588 Russia is installing a system that will guarantee 100% nonpenetration by all missiles, including hypersonic. If NATO is going to continue to build up, Russia will have an option of complete destruction of all NATO infrastructure with very little risk to itself. [link to lenta.ru (secure)] cant stop a cloud burst Nuke! Mikhailman |
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User ID: 76811228 United States 09/19/2021 08:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GITLER KAPUT! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71214588 Russia is installing a system that will guarantee 100% nonpenetration by all missiles, including hypersonic. If NATO is going to continue to build up, Russia will have an option of complete destruction of all NATO infrastructure with very little risk to itself. [link to lenta.ru (secure)] "Russian Troll" Mikhailman |
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User ID: 76811228 United States 09/19/2021 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Delusional. Russians can come up with interesting designs, but when rubber meets road, most of those designs fail. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80877169 BINGO!! Magog will be destroyed!! Izz-real has 100's if not thousands of ERD's that will melt the flesh off the approaching hoards (just like the Indy Jone's - Ark of the Covenant nazi BBQ scene) Mikhailman |
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Forum Administrator 09/19/2021 09:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Delusional. Russians can come up with interesting designs, but when rubber meets road, most of those designs fail. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80877169 Or fail when needed. Russian manufacturing “We have assembled the most extensive and inclusive Voter Fraud Organization in the history of America”—Joe “SippyCup” Biden Joe Biden will never be the man Michelle Obama is The worst thing about dying is that you become a democratic voter for eternity |
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User ID: 79175670 United Kingdom 09/19/2021 09:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GITLER KAPUT! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71214588 Russia is installing a system that will guarantee 100% nonpenetration by all missiles, including hypersonic. If NATO is going to continue to build up, Russia will have an option of complete destruction of all NATO infrastructure with very little risk to itself. [link to lenta.ru (secure)] It means Europe can finally have THAAD missiles without Russia having a childish tantrum? Life is a dream and we are the imagination of ourselves. |
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DrGu
User ID: 79312863 Netherlands 09/19/2021 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Delusional. Russians can come up with interesting designs, but when rubber meets road, most of those designs fail. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80877169 Or fail when needed. Russian manufacturing So unreliable, amazing that the US was forced to rely on this terrible technology for their manned space program. The US was really lucky they had no failed launches over the 20 years they had to rely on it. Last Edited by DrGu on 09/19/2021 05:14 PM |
Cyn68
User ID: 80676346 United States 09/19/2021 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Delusional. Russians can come up with interesting designs, but when rubber meets road, most of those designs fail. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80877169 So true. Everyone bragged how the S-400 could detect and destroy US and Israeli F-35s, but it never worked. Both countries flew over Russian territory in Syria and Crimea and the planes were never detected. Alert systems were activated manually when the jet engines were heard flying over. From what Russian defectors have told the west, Russian military hardware rarely works as advertised. They never fly over Syria. They shoot at Syria from Israel or Lebanon airspaces because they know better. And God forbid an F35 would approach the Russian border with an intent to cross. They are not invisible because otherwise they would be flying over Russia, wouldn't they like they used to with U2. Are you even connected? Russia has bases in Syria and Crimea. The S-400 is a flop just like the S-500 will be, which is just an upgraded S-300 that didnt work either. Just ask India. Nothing ever goes away until it teaches us what we need to know. |
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User ID: 80060944 United States 09/19/2021 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Delusional. Russians can come up with interesting designs, but when rubber meets road, most of those designs fail. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80877169 Like the AK-47. And the T-33 tank. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Total junk. |