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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80365094 United States 09/13/2021 11:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: While America was distracted, the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta revised its GDP forecast DOWNWARD by 41%. Something's VERY wrong here. Didn’t Yellen just say we are broke? Quoting: Justsayno We are at destination dark winter Edit: Thread: Janet Yellen says we are broke! Warns Congress! We aint broke. The scumbags in "government" are broke. 21,000,000 fed3ral and state employees crash and burn first. Rest of us need to click the "Roll American" switch and do what Americans do. Make stuff, sell / barter, rebuild from within while keeping an eye peeled on some sort of UN invasion. GET BUSY and dont be sheep |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80833944 United States 09/13/2021 11:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: While America was distracted, the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta revised its GDP forecast DOWNWARD by 41%. Something's VERY wrong here. They reduced the rate of growth estimate by 41%. Makes sense after that big hurricane. Nothing too earth shaking that I can see. The western US is mostly drought damaged, and that will hurt also! Quoting: bigD111 No it doesn't. I have never, ever heard of such a drop in the forecast. I don't even think this happened in '08. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80833944 United States 09/13/2021 11:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: While America was distracted, the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta revised its GDP forecast DOWNWARD by 41%. Something's VERY wrong here. See Deagel’s predictions for 2025….ooops wait sorry they took that down. USA predicted to be down from 330 million to 99 million by 2025. GDP crashing in a similar fashion. Who knows what the driver is behind Deagle... Down 2/3 sounds pretty unrealistic to me. I could buy 1/3 though. There is a generation that is approaching the age of departure, and they're quite a large one. The latest bout of flu seems to be accelerating it. I think the push for vax might have something to do with economic fears surrounding the mass die-off. We're approaching the middle of that Bell curve. Without their consumption there will be less demand for products resulting in oversupply and crashing prices. Of course, from an economic perspective, it would be ideal to drag out the wind down as long as possible to preclude a sudden collapse. The driver behind Deagle? The goals for the USA is to have 70% vaccinated. What is 70% of 330 Million? 231 Million dead Leaving 99 Million! Except that not everyone is dying of the vax. Not yet, anyways. Can't be ruled out just yet, but I'm not jumping to conclusions, either. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80562797 United States 09/14/2021 12:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: While America was distracted, the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta revised its GDP forecast DOWNWARD by 41%. Something's VERY wrong here. Big ole nothing burger. For Christ sakes They had GDP listed at 6.7% and revised it to 3.4%. The best quarter of GDP under Trump was 3.0 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80416381 Government debt spending is included in GDP. If the government spends only what they earn in taxes, GDP drops. But if government borrows $4 trillion and spends it, GDP rises. So you have to always subtract government deficit spending from gdp to get some kind of idea what's going on. John Williams at Shadow Stats has inflation calculated how they used to calculate it before Clinton changed it, is around 10-11%.So subtract 10% from 3.4%, 3.4% - 10% = -6.6%. Even at 6.7%, the economy is declining by -3.3%. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80833944 United States 09/14/2021 12:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: While America was distracted, the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta revised its GDP forecast DOWNWARD by 41%. Something's VERY wrong here. Big ole nothing burger. For Christ sakes They had GDP listed at 6.7% and revised it to 3.4%. The best quarter of GDP under Trump was 3.0 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80416381 Government debt spending is included in GDP. If the government spends only what they earn in taxes, GDP drops. But if government borrows $4 trillion and spends it, GDP rises. So you have to always subtract government deficit spending from gdp to get some kind of idea what's going on. John Williams at Shadow Stats has inflation calculated how they used to calculate it before Clinton changed it, is around 10-11%.So subtract 10% from 3.4%, 3.4% - 10% = -6.6%. Even at 6.7%, the economy is declining by -3.3%. That's an absolutely fucking HUGE amount, I wish to point out. I don't recall any declines like this outside '08. For the sake of comparison... GDP fell 8.5% in 1929, another 6.4% in 1930, and 12.9% in 1931, with an additional 1.3% in 1932 for a cumulative drop of 29.1%. Overall GDP only dropped 2.6% in 2009. A 41% movement is unheard of. Never happened before. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34086455 United States 09/14/2021 12:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: While America was distracted, the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta revised its GDP forecast DOWNWARD by 41%. Something's VERY wrong here. garbage. even if its true (there have been no recent revisions of gdp forecast at atlanta fed) that would mean gdp growth was revised down from 5% to 3.7% (the current projection) big fucking deal. glenn beck is a manipulative dubious motherfucker. if you want to fear monger about the economy consider the democrats trying to raise taxes all over the fucking place. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31976951 Russia 09/14/2021 01:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: While America was distracted, the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta revised its GDP forecast DOWNWARD by 41%. Something's VERY wrong here. I think this idea is a fallacy. You really think the banks are going to be like "oh ok ... The money is worthless... We forgive all your debts let's start over" C'mon man. In the USSR nobody owned anything so they could just keep what they had. In a capitalist system it will require forcible separation from assets. I don't see this ending well. I don't see people just handing their assets over to the Fed. There is going to be a war, and it's going to be a bloody one. Who will prevail? Banks will go for debt forgiveness in exchange for"own nothing and be happy". So they lived in the USSR in the 20-60 years. But first, our ancestors were dispossessed - they took all the property from all wealthy people. Absolutely all the property is owned by everyone. Revolution of 1917-welcome. Our country could not stand the surprise and betrayal of the tsar by the government. you have weapons and the Internet, unfortunately there is no association. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80170612 09/14/2021 01:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: While America was distracted, the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta revised its GDP forecast DOWNWARD by 41%. Something's VERY wrong here. Big ole nothing burger. For Christ sakes They had GDP listed at 6.7% and revised it to 3.4%. The best quarter of GDP under Trump was 3.0 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80416381 Government debt spending is included in GDP. If the government spends only what they earn in taxes, GDP drops. But if government borrows $4 trillion and spends it, GDP rises. So you have to always subtract government deficit spending from gdp to get some kind of idea what's going on. John Williams at Shadow Stats has inflation calculated how they used to calculate it before Clinton changed it, is around 10-11%.So subtract 10% from 3.4%, 3.4% - 10% = -6.6%. Even at 6.7%, the economy is declining by -3.3%. That's an absolutely fucking HUGE amount, I wish to point out. I don't recall any declines like this outside '08. For the sake of comparison... GDP fell 8.5% in 1929, another 6.4% in 1930, and 12.9% in 1931, with an additional 1.3% in 1932 for a cumulative drop of 29.1%. Overall GDP only dropped 2.6% in 2009. A 41% movement is unheard of. Never happened before. I don't know what Glen's been smoking? The fed announced that it under performed by 41% in 3rd quarter 6.7 to 3.3. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80170612 09/14/2021 01:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: While America was distracted, the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta revised its GDP forecast DOWNWARD by 41%. Something's VERY wrong here. Big ole nothing burger. For Christ sakes They had GDP listed at 6.7% and revised it to 3.4%. The best quarter of GDP under Trump was 3.0 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80416381 Government debt spending is included in GDP. If the government spends only what they earn in taxes, GDP drops. But if government borrows $4 trillion and spends it, GDP rises. So you have to always subtract government deficit spending from gdp to get some kind of idea what's going on. John Williams at Shadow Stats has inflation calculated how they used to calculate it before Clinton changed it, is around 10-11%.So subtract 10% from 3.4%, 3.4% - 10% = -6.6%. Even at 6.7%, the economy is declining by -3.3%. That's an absolutely fucking HUGE amount, I wish to point out. I don't recall any declines like this outside '08. For the sake of comparison... GDP fell 8.5% in 1929, another 6.4% in 1930, and 12.9% in 1931, with an additional 1.3% in 1932 for a cumulative drop of 29.1%. Overall GDP only dropped 2.6% in 2009. A 41% movement is unheard of. Never happened before. I don't know what Glen's been smoking? The fed announced that it under performed by 41% in 3rd quarter 6.7 to 3.3. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80833944 United States 09/14/2021 01:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: While America was distracted, the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta revised its GDP forecast DOWNWARD by 41%. Something's VERY wrong here. I think this idea is a fallacy. You really think the banks are going to be like "oh ok ... The money is worthless... We forgive all your debts let's start over" C'mon man. In the USSR nobody owned anything so they could just keep what they had. In a capitalist system it will require forcible separation from assets. I don't see this ending well. I don't see people just handing their assets over to the Fed. There is going to be a war, and it's going to be a bloody one. Who will prevail? Banks will go for debt forgiveness in exchange for"own nothing and be happy". So they lived in the USSR in the 20-60 years. But first, our ancestors were dispossessed - they took all the property from all wealthy people. Absolutely all the property is owned by everyone. Revolution of 1917-welcome. Our country could not stand the surprise and betrayal of the tsar by the government. you have weapons and the Internet, unfortunately there is no association. Weeeeellll... Part of my family ended up in the US as a direct result of that confiscation... So I do know something about it. What I'm saying is... What we have here in the US are essentially the dissidents... And we have guns - and lots of them. Everyone I know had fired a gun by the age of 12. See, the rest of the world thinks we're crazy for owning guns. We think you're crazy for failing to secure protections against government tyranny. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80833944 United States 09/14/2021 01:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: While America was distracted, the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta revised its GDP forecast DOWNWARD by 41%. Something's VERY wrong here. Big ole nothing burger. For Christ sakes They had GDP listed at 6.7% and revised it to 3.4%. The best quarter of GDP under Trump was 3.0 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80416381 Government debt spending is included in GDP. If the government spends only what they earn in taxes, GDP drops. But if government borrows $4 trillion and spends it, GDP rises. So you have to always subtract government deficit spending from gdp to get some kind of idea what's going on. John Williams at Shadow Stats has inflation calculated how they used to calculate it before Clinton changed it, is around 10-11%.So subtract 10% from 3.4%, 3.4% - 10% = -6.6%. Even at 6.7%, the economy is declining by -3.3%. That's an absolutely fucking HUGE amount, I wish to point out. I don't recall any declines like this outside '08. For the sake of comparison... GDP fell 8.5% in 1929, another 6.4% in 1930, and 12.9% in 1931, with an additional 1.3% in 1932 for a cumulative drop of 29.1%. Overall GDP only dropped 2.6% in 2009. A 41% movement is unheard of. Never happened before. I don't know what Glen's been smoking? The fed announced that it under performed by 41% in 3rd quarter 6.7 to 3.3. Even so... It's a huge drop. |
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User ID: 77578725 United States 09/14/2021 02:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: While America was distracted, the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta revised its GDP forecast DOWNWARD by 41%. Something's VERY wrong here. Janet Yellen is telling Congress they can’t afford the 3.5 trn Quoting: Coastie Patriot Something else I read said we are at a point where taxes no longer cover the expenses of America. Janet Yellin' to Congress they can’t afford the 3.5 trn Why not? It is free money for them. Inflation is a problem for the stupid slaves. TootiePoopie |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6458095 Canada 09/14/2021 02:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: While America was distracted, the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta revised its GDP forecast DOWNWARD by 41%. Something's VERY wrong here. OOPS, and now we know why the United States dropped the ball in Afghanistan and the Saudi's have abandoned the dollar. Next up, MAD MAX. or more acurately, MAD MANUEL. |
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Traveler In The Matrix User ID: 80863380 United States 09/14/2021 02:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: While America was distracted, the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta revised its GDP forecast DOWNWARD by 41%. Something's VERY wrong here. Guess this must be Joe's Long Dark Winter... I'm really disgusted at how so many people are aligning to destroy this country... And we've got a dementia patient as a leader, and won't be responsible for any of it... since he can't remember ahit from day to day... All planned out... I've got a really bad feeling about what's coming... First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. ~ Mahatma Gandhi "Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—forever." ~ George Orwell "The exact level of tyranny that you're going to live under, is the level of tyranny you put up with." ~Thomas Jefferson "All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. ~ Thomas Jefferson |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79513929 United States 09/14/2021 03:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: While America was distracted, the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta revised its GDP forecast DOWNWARD by 41%. Something's VERY wrong here. Janet Yellen is telling Congress they can’t afford the 3.5 trn Quoting: Coastie Patriot Something else I read said we are at a point where taxes no longer cover the expenses of America. What you probably read was that the USA's GDP was eclipsed by the nation's total debt. in other words - man makes 50K a year and has a personal debt of $51K. You are a bit late to the party on the taxes meeting the annual budgets. There has only a very brief period where taxes covered america's budget expenses since the 1970's. That doesn't even count social security and so forth. For decades the USA has been running at 10-15% budget deficit every year for 50 years. This is all the sudden reordering you see that GLP calls 'communiust takeover'. In reality it is just an empire well past completely broke. |
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2012Portal - Mayan Beyond 2012 User ID: 15022013 Netherlands 09/14/2021 03:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: While America was distracted, the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta revised its GDP forecast DOWNWARD by 41%. Something's VERY wrong here. It's all based on funny money. This is "real" GDP, meaning highly, no, extremely inflated. Just check out this chart to see what I mean: [link to fred.stlouisfed.org (secure)] Down 40%, up 80%, it's all based on free money printing or worse yet, stimulus and bailouts. Compare to the aggregate GDP, which is what everything is based on: [link to www.macrotrends.net (secure)] Last Edited by 2012Portal on 09/14/2021 03:57 AM From the love of power to the power of Love - My camera and video gear: [link to graphicstart.com] --- --- --- "Jesus Christ, the Son of God our Savior" |
Nobuddy User ID: 61473254 Canada 09/14/2021 04:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: While America was distracted, the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta revised its GDP forecast DOWNWARD by 41%. Something's VERY wrong here. hmm.. let's see 2.9 trillion dollars when Trump left office, two months later Biden puts out 6.Trillion dollars & then another 3.6 trillion.. that sounds like a whole lot of GDP to me. These phuckers Republican & Democrats alike.. phucked 'EVERY-ONE'. Hell I know people who still haven't received their stimulus checks. I honestly believe we are way past the 'Wake the phuck up.!!' phase.. we are heading into the 'Holy phuck what was that.!!' phase, & that phase has a lott'a ouch in it. Like 'ouch' we may have to eat the dog, kind'a phucked, just sayin'. Strange daze indeed.. . |
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User ID: 80835184 United States 09/14/2021 06:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: While America was distracted, the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta revised its GDP forecast DOWNWARD by 41%. Something's VERY wrong here. This is huge Quoting: Black Unit I thought it was a mistake by Beck, but its here too [link to wallstreetonparade.com (secure)] "The highly respected and closely watched Atlanta Fed’s GDPNow forecast for the third quarter has been slashed by 41 percent since August 2 – from 6.3 percent GDP growth to a tepid 3.7 percent projected GDP growth " (<50%) Just the growth is cut, not the GDP itself. Thread title is wrong. . DON'T VAX, PROPHYLAX! ____________ There is no anger in Me: If one offers Me thorns and thistles, I will march to battle against him, And set all of them on fire. But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5) |