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Thank you for the stars!

I can't think of that guy's name that is interviewing him. But Aldrin was pretty darned clear about it.
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You've taken something said about a very specific thing and blown it up to cover everything to do with our going to the moon.

Buzz is right, for the landing to have been filmed FROM THE LANDING SITE, someone else would have already had to have been there or a camera set up at the exact place needed to film the landing.

On the other hand, the landings were filmed through the a window from the inside of the LEM.

This in no way indicates that we did not go to the moon and gather rocks and take pictures and come back to earth with them.
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Not this bullshit again ! Jesus H Christ you people have the comprehension skills of a 6 month old. Mental health is a national security issue with idiots like Opie running around, why not go get your shot
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You've taken something said about a very specific thing and blown it up to cover everything to do with our going to the moon.

Buzz is right, for the landing to have been filmed FROM THE LANDING SITE, someone else would have already had to have been there or a camera set up at the exact place needed to film the landing.

On the other hand, the landings were filmed through the a window from the inside of the LEM.

This in no way indicates that we did not go to the moon and gather rocks and take pictures and come back to earth with them.
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Ive met him and I don't believe it was faked for an instant
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Ive met him and I don't believe it was faked for an instant
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That's so convincing!

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Ive met him and I don't believe it was faked for an instant
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You are naive....
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Of course it's a fake.
Everything about the U.S. is a fraud.
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In another video, he admitted to a little girl that we never went to the moon.
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Ive met him and I don't believe it was faked for an instant
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You are naive....
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have you looked him straight in the face and asked? I asked him what it was like up there. He got a very distant look in his face , thought for a moment and said you wouldn't understand.
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Ive met him and I don't believe it was faked for an instant
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You are naive....
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have you looked him straight in the face and asked? I asked him what it was like up there. He got a very distant look in his face , thought for a moment and said you wouldn't understand.
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Yeah, right.

If he did say that, he meant that we made it all up!
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It is a weird and vague way for him to answer the question, and he certainly knows how to answer very clearly. Either

(1) we didn't go, or at least he didn't go, or
(2) they want that "conspiracy theory" to live even it's not correct and he really did go.

I'm a scientifically minded guy and have smelled many bullshit stories. Who else will remind you that 20 years ago (minus one day) Lawrence Eagleburger went on TV and announced that al Qaida (old spelling, then changed to al Qaeda) did it, then was never seen again? And that's how the "al Qaida did it" story got planted.

But this one about the Apollo moon missions seemed right at the time. Many professional scientists at the time accepted it too. I knew people who worked at NASA and they didn't say there was anything fishy.
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Ive met him and I don't believe it was faked for an instant
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You are naive....
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have you looked him straight in the face and asked? I asked him what it was like up there. He got a very distant look in his face , thought for a moment and said you wouldn't understand.
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Yeah, right.

If he did say that, he meant that we made it all up!
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really don't give ts if you believe me or not.
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It is a weird and vague way for him to answer the question, and he certainly knows how to answer very clearly. Either

(1) we didn't go, or at least he didn't go, or
(2) they want that "conspiracy theory" to live even it's not correct and he really did go.

I'm a scientifically minded guy and have smelled many bullshit stories. Who else will remind you that 20 years ago (minus one day) Lawrence Eagleburger went on TV and announced that al Qaida (old spelling, then changed to al Qaeda) did it, then was never seen again? And that's how the "al Qaida did it" story got planted.

But this one about the Apollo moon missions seemed right at the time. Many professional scientists at the time accepted it too. I knew people who worked at NASA and they didn't say there was anything fishy.
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You are naive....
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have you looked him straight in the face and asked? I asked him what it was like up there. He got a very distant look in his face , thought for a moment and said you wouldn't understand.
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Yeah, right.

If he did say that, he meant that we made it all up!
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really don't give ts if you believe me or not.
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I'd like to meet him and ask him that question. He should try me and see if I really wouldn't understand.
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have you looked him straight in the face and asked? I asked him what it was like up there. He got a very distant look in his face , thought for a moment and said you wouldn't understand.
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Yeah, right.

If he did say that, he meant that we made it all up!
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really don't give ts if you believe me or not.
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I'd like to meet him and ask him that question. He should try me and see if I really wouldn't understand.
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if you do some homework, you will see a video of him punching the shit out of someone that asked if it was a fake..and he was like 75..and the reporter or whomever dropped
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Yeah, right.

If he did say that, he meant that we made it all up!
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really don't give ts if you believe me or not.
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I'd like to meet him and ask him that question. He should try me and see if I really wouldn't understand.
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if you do some homework, you will see a video of him punching the shit out of someone that asked if it was a fake..and he was like 75..and the reporter or whomever dropped
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The least YOU can do is post said video!

I've seen it, but it proves nothing.
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It is a weird and vague way for him to answer the question, and he certainly knows how to answer very clearly. Either

(1) we didn't go, or at least he didn't go, or
(2) they want that "conspiracy theory" to live even it's not correct and he really did go.

I'm a scientifically minded guy and have smelled many bullshit stories. Who else will remind you that 20 years ago (minus one day) Lawrence Eagleburger went on TV and announced that al Qaida (old spelling, then changed to al Qaeda) did it, then was never seen again? And that's how the "al Qaida did it" story got planted.

But this one about the Apollo moon missions seemed right at the time. Many professional scientists at the time accepted it too. I knew people who worked at NASA and they didn't say there was anything fishy.
 Quoting: oniongrass


The lie is too big!

Big lie

The big lie (German: große Lüge) is a gross distortion or misrepresentation of the truth, used especially as a propaganda technique.[1][2] The German expression was coined by Adolf Hitler, when he dictated his 1925 book Mein Kampf, to describe the use of a lie so colossal that no one would believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously."

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Yeah yeah of course. But I grew up to work in the related industry, with some people who had been involved in it. If I heard one story here and another story there, and they didn't quite fit, I would have noticed it. If they were all made to fit, it would have been a far better propaganda operation than anything I've ever seen.

Think how primitive 9/11 was. I was asking while it was happening "where are the F-16's intercepting those planes?" Then we learned that GWB or Cheney grounded the Air Force that day, i.e. they were complicit. I notice these things quickly. And I never noticed such a problem with the moon landings.

I am not sure all the missions were completed as stated. But at least some of them were. There's no reason that the Van Allen belts would prevent travel there.

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really don't give ts if you believe me or not.
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I'd like to meet him and ask him that question. He should try me and see if I really wouldn't understand.
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if you do some homework, you will see a video of him punching the shit out of someone that asked if it was a fake..and he was like 75..and the reporter or whomever dropped
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The least YOU can do is post said video!

I've seen it, but it proves nothing.
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no point in arguing. I believe we went there..you do not
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It is a weird and vague way for him to answer the question, and he certainly knows how to answer very clearly. Either

(1) we didn't go, or at least he didn't go, or
(2) they want that "conspiracy theory" to live even it's not correct and he really did go.

I'm a scientifically minded guy and have smelled many bullshit stories. Who else will remind you that 20 years ago (minus one day) Lawrence Eagleburger went on TV and announced that al Qaida (old spelling, then changed to al Qaeda) did it, then was never seen again? And that's how the "al Qaida did it" story got planted.

But this one about the Apollo moon missions seemed right at the time. Many professional scientists at the time accepted it too. I knew people who worked at NASA and they didn't say there was anything fishy.
 Quoting: oniongrass


The lie is too big!

Big lie

The big lie (German: große Lüge) is a gross distortion or misrepresentation of the truth, used especially as a propaganda technique.[1][2] The German expression was coined by Adolf Hitler, when he dictated his 1925 book Mein Kampf, to describe the use of a lie so colossal that no one would believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously."

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Yeah yeah of course. But I grew up to work in the related industry, with some people who had been involved in it. If I heard one story here and another story there, and they didn't quite fit, I would have noticed it. If they were all made to fit, it would have been a far better propaganda operation than anything I've ever seen.

Think how primitive 9/11 was. I was asking while it was happening "where are the F-16's intercepting those planes?" Then we learned that GWB or Cheney grounded the Air Force that day, i.e. they were complicit. I notice these things quickly. And I never noticed such a problem with the moon landings.
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hmmmm

Thanks for posting your experience.

I think it's because everything is compartmentalized. My own father did heavy duty math for NOAA--so advanced only a PHD could understand.

What was he really working on? What purpose? He didn't have any idea. I asked him many times.
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Yeah, right.

If he did say that, he meant that we made it all up!
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really don't give ts if you believe me or not.
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I'd like to meet him and ask him that question. He should try me and see if I really wouldn't understand.
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if you do some homework, you will see a video of him punching the shit out of someone that asked if it was a fake..and he was like 75..and the reporter or whomever dropped
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That's weird though, he TOLD Conan here that some aspect of it was fake, in a way that you can believe the whole mission was fake or that it wasn't.

This is one of the most stable people in the country. That's how one becomes a fighter pilot and an astronaut. He acts intentionally. It may be an act though.
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It is a weird and vague way for him to answer the question, and he certainly knows how to answer very clearly. Either

(1) we didn't go, or at least he didn't go, or
(2) they want that "conspiracy theory" to live even it's not correct and he really did go.

I'm a scientifically minded guy and have smelled many bullshit stories. Who else will remind you that 20 years ago (minus one day) Lawrence Eagleburger went on TV and announced that al Qaida (old spelling, then changed to al Qaeda) did it, then was never seen again? And that's how the "al Qaida did it" story got planted.

But this one about the Apollo moon missions seemed right at the time. Many professional scientists at the time accepted it too. I knew people who worked at NASA and they didn't say there was anything fishy.
 Quoting: oniongrass


The lie is too big!

Big lie

The big lie (German: große Lüge) is a gross distortion or misrepresentation of the truth, used especially as a propaganda technique.[1][2] The German expression was coined by Adolf Hitler, when he dictated his 1925 book Mein Kampf, to describe the use of a lie so colossal that no one would believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously."

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Yeah yeah of course. But I grew up to work in the related industry, with some people who had been involved in it. If I heard one story here and another story there, and they didn't quite fit, I would have noticed it. If they were all made to fit, it would have been a far better propaganda operation than anything I've ever seen.

Think how primitive 9/11 was. I was asking while it was happening "where are the F-16's intercepting those planes?" Then we learned that GWB or Cheney grounded the Air Force that day, i.e. they were complicit. I notice these things quickly. And I never noticed such a problem with the moon landings.
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hmmmm

Thanks for posting your experience.

I think it's because everything is compartmentalized. My own father did heavy duty math for NOAA--so advanced only a PHD could understand.

What was he really working on? What purpose? He didn't have any idea. I asked him many times.
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NOAA was probably meteorology. Maybe weather modeling or modification. Partial differential equation simulations of weather?

Indeed things are compartmentalized, and the compartmentalization is easier with moon missions because it's hard to prove whether they were there. In 9/11 we all saw how the buildings fell, we saw the squibs during the demolition, etc. People could go to the remote site in Pennsylvania and see what wasn't there. Pentagon too.

I knew to expect they would be intercepted, because six months earlier (around March 2001) a private plane went off course flying up the Mississippi valley. Probably the pilot had a heart attack and died, and the plane just kept flying, so it was almost a normal thing. It was a Cessna or a Piper. Well two(!) F-16's scrambled and followed that little airplane up the river until it ran out of fuel and crashed in a field in Illinois.

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The lie is too big!

Big lie

The big lie (German: große Lüge) is a gross distortion or misrepresentation of the truth, used especially as a propaganda technique.[1][2] The German expression was coined by Adolf Hitler, when he dictated his 1925 book Mein Kampf, to describe the use of a lie so colossal that no one would believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously."

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Yeah yeah of course. But I grew up to work in the related industry, with some people who had been involved in it. If I heard one story here and another story there, and they didn't quite fit, I would have noticed it. If they were all made to fit, it would have been a far better propaganda operation than anything I've ever seen.

Think how primitive 9/11 was. I was asking while it was happening "where are the F-16's intercepting those planes?" Then we learned that GWB or Cheney grounded the Air Force that day, i.e. they were complicit. I notice these things quickly. And I never noticed such a problem with the moon landings.
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hmmmm

Thanks for posting your experience.

I think it's because everything is compartmentalized. My own father did heavy duty math for NOAA--so advanced only a PHD could understand.

What was he really working on? What purpose? He didn't have any idea. I asked him many times.
 Quoting: sseess


NOAA was probably meteorology. Maybe weather modeling or modification. Partial differential equation simulations of weather?

Indeed things are compartmentalized, and the compartmentalization is easier with moon missions because it's hard to prove whether they were there. In 9/11 we all saw how the buildings fell, we saw the squibs during the demolition, etc. People could go to the remote site in Pennsylvania and see what wasn't there. Pentagon too.
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I knew the general mission of NOAA, but it's probably a cover for some nefarious government program. The people doing the math only care about their numbers and formulas.

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I'm one of those people who does math. I'd have a good idea of whether I was working on approximations of the Navier-Stokes fluid flow equations, which tell you exactly what happens in weather except they were too difficult to solve -- that's getting better.

But maybe it was classified information and he couldn't tell you. Although in that case it would make more sense for him to tell you that, rather than letting his own child not understand what Dad did at work.
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I'm one of those people who does math. I'd have a good idea of whether I was working on approximations of the Navier-Stokes fluid flow equations, which tell you exactly what happens in weather except they were too difficult to solve -- that's getting better.

But maybe it was classified information and he couldn't tell you. Although in that case it would make more sense for him to tell you that, rather than letting his own child not understand what Dad did at work.
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That was so long ago--I think he said it was something to do with rockets.

He did a lot of work in Hilbert's Space

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The state of a vibrating string can be modeled as a point in a Hilbert space. The decomposition of a vibrating string into its vibrations in distinct overtones is given by the projection of the point onto the coordinate axes in the space.
In mathematics, a Hilbert space (named for David Hilbert) generalizes the notion of Euclidean space. It extends the methods of vector algebra and calculus from the two-dimensional Euclidean plane and three-dimensional space to spaces with any finite or infinite number of dimensions.

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Way beyond my understanding, then and now!

He was given a problem to solve. He had an office with a blackboard and just crunched numbers all day. (when he wasn't working on papers to publish and advanced degrees)

Of course I don't know for sure, but I think he was given the equation or whatever and told to solve it, without knowing the real world significance.
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I'm one of those people who does math. I'd have a good idea of whether I was working on approximations of the Navier-Stokes fluid flow equations, which tell you exactly what happens in weather except they were too difficult to solve -- that's getting better.

But maybe it was classified information and he couldn't tell you. Although in that case it would make more sense for him to tell you that, rather than letting his own child not understand what Dad did at work.
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That was so long ago--I think he said it was something to do with rockets.

He did a lot of work in Hilbert's Space

Hilbert space

The state of a vibrating string can be modeled as a point in a Hilbert space. The decomposition of a vibrating string into its vibrations in distinct overtones is given by the projection of the point onto the coordinate axes in the space.
In mathematics, a Hilbert space (named for David Hilbert) generalizes the notion of Euclidean space. It extends the methods of vector algebra and calculus from the two-dimensional Euclidean plane and three-dimensional space to spaces with any finite or infinite number of dimensions.

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Way beyond my understanding, then and now!

He was given a problem to solve. He had an office with a blackboard and just crunched numbers all day. (when he wasn't working on papers to publish and advanced degrees)

Of course I don't know for sure, but I think he was given the equation or whatever and told to solve it, without knowing the real world significance.
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Yeah I've done stuff in Hilbert space and the more general Banach space.

Hilbert was amazing, one of the greatest mathematicians. Did original work in many areas. Including the proper axiomatization of Euclidean Geometry (what they teach in high school). He actually needed 22 axioms, so when we teach kids there are only 4 or 5, no wonder some of the best get confused.
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This in no way indicates that we did not go to the moon and gather rocks and take pictures and come back to earth with them.
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Yeah all those missing moon rocks and petrified woods

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09/10/2021 05:37 PM
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Re: Buzz Aldrin admits the Moon Landing films were fake!
https://imgur.com/WecsWbV

https://imgur.com/nbfPJFg


People really believe this model pulled up by a string is real!






GLP