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Forum Administrator 09/05/2021 10:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UK: 12-15 year olds will be able to over-rule their parents & get Covid jab vaccine minister reveals.. I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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(OP) User ID: 73592041 United Kingdom 09/05/2021 10:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UK: 12-15 year olds will be able to over-rule their parents & get Covid jab vaccine minister reveals.. JCVI are independent advisors.. Government and ministers can overrule them and approve the vax... Polish First.. Slav Power!... Quadruple vaxxed and boostered crew.. Go Putin!... I don't give Karma so STFU!... if someone gives you Karma saying CKP, its not me.. only you sad weirdos with no life give users Karma... FACT!.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80489209 Luxembourg 09/05/2021 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UK: 12-15 year olds will be able to over-rule their parents & get Covid jab vaccine minister reveals.. Fully vaccinated people several times more likely to get COVID-19 (Natural News) A new Israeli study has confirmed that natural immunity from a previous Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) infection can offer more protection than getting two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech coronavirus vaccine. The study was conducted by a team of Israeli researchers from Tel Aviv University and Maccabi Healthcare Services. It was done long after the post-vaccine delta variant of COVID-19 became the dominant coronavirus strain in Israel and had begun wreaking havoc in one of the world’s most vaccinated nations. Fully vaccinated people several times more likely to get COVID-19 For this study, the researchers looked at more than 800,000 people, some of whom had received both doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine and never had coronavirus and others who were unvaccinated people who had recovered from previous COVID-19 infections. (Related: GREAT NEWS: Natural immunity to coronavirus is comprehensive and DURABLE – study.) The researchers found that fully vaccinated people were several times more likely to experience a breakthrough COVID-19 infection than people with natural immunity to the coronavirus. According to the study, fully vaccinated individuals who had no prior exposure to the coronavirus were 5.96 times more likely to get infected with the delta variant compared to those with natural immunity. They were also 7.13 times more likely to experience COVID-19 symptoms. These symptoms include coughing, developing a fever and experiencing shortness of breath. After three months, this risk in fully vaccinated individuals increases. They become 13.06 times more likely to get infected, and 27.02 times more likely to experience COVID-19 symptoms. “This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer-lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the [Pfizer-BioNTech] two-dose vaccine-induced immunity,” read the study. The study authors stated that their research is the largest real-world observational study that compared the immunity supposedly given by the COVID-19 vaccines with natural immunity gained from previous coronavirus infections. “Our large cohort, enabled by Israel’s rapid rollout of the mass vaccination campaign, allowed us to investigate the risk for additional infection – either a breakthrough infection in vaccinated individuals or reinfection in previously infected ones – over a longer period than thus far described.” [link to www.naturalnews.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80520190 United Kingdom 09/05/2021 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UK: 12-15 year olds will be able to over-rule their parents & get Covid jab vaccine minister reveals.. JCVI are independent advisors.. Government and ministers can overrule them and approve the vax... What happened to "Following the Science".! This proves the UK .Gov have gone rogue and tosspots like you CKP are government enablers. You should be absolutely disgusted with yourself for constantly pushing this agenda. |
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(OP) User ID: 73592041 United Kingdom 09/05/2021 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UK: 12-15 year olds will be able to over-rule their parents & get Covid jab vaccine minister reveals.. JCVI are independent advisors.. Government and ministers can overrule them and approve the vax... Are you a Jaffa by any chance CKP. I have no idea what you mean... Polish First.. Slav Power!... Quadruple vaxxed and boostered crew.. Go Putin!... I don't give Karma so STFU!... if someone gives you Karma saying CKP, its not me.. only you sad weirdos with no life give users Karma... FACT!.. |
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User ID: 80826130 Canada 09/05/2021 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UK: 12-15 year olds will be able to over-rule their parents & get Covid jab vaccine minister reveals.. Teenagers will be able to over-rule their parents & get Covid jab – if doctors say they are ‘competent’, minister admits Quoting: Cannabis Kills People!.... TEENAGERS can overrule their parents and get the Covid jab if they are deemed "competent" to make the decision, a minister sensationally admitted today. After repeatedly promising parents that parental consent will be required for teens to be jabbed, Nadhim Zahawi admitted there is a loophole where under 16s will be able to get around it. Nadhim Zahawi admitted there is a loophole where under 16s can overrule their parents to get a jab [link to www.thesun.co.uk (secure)] Right here is when notices are sent to the men and women of the acting as state government. If you don't you are deemed to accept it. Wake up and don't be lazy. DoNotCooperate |
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User ID: 76870091 Ireland 09/05/2021 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UK: 12-15 year olds will be able to over-rule their parents & get Covid jab vaccine minister reveals.. JCVI are independent advisors.. Government and ministers can overrule them and approve the vax... So, what happened to "Follow the Science?" Not even pretending this is about health any more Civilisation is at a crossroads "Unfortunately the Barbarians dwell among us and our country is grown so weak and pathetic that the Barbarians must be appeased in the name of diversity and cultural sensitivity" ~ Allison Pearson |
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(OP) User ID: 73592041 United Kingdom 09/05/2021 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UK: 12-15 year olds will be able to over-rule their parents & get Covid jab vaccine minister reveals.. ... Quoting: Cannabis Kills People!.... JCVI are independent advisors.. Government and ministers can overrule them and approve the vax... Are you a Jaffa by any chance CKP. I have no idea what you mean... He means you are seedless and I say you are spineless. I have a grown up daughter with 2 grand kids... not that it's any of your business... Last Edited by Cannabis Kills People!.... on 09/05/2021 10:48 AM Polish First.. Slav Power!... Quadruple vaxxed and boostered crew.. Go Putin!... I don't give Karma so STFU!... if someone gives you Karma saying CKP, its not me.. only you sad weirdos with no life give users Karma... FACT!.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80520190 United Kingdom 09/05/2021 10:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UK: 12-15 year olds will be able to over-rule their parents & get Covid jab vaccine minister reveals.. JCVI are independent advisors.. Government and ministers can overrule them and approve the vax... So, what happened to "Follow the Science?" Not even pretending this is about health any more That's exactly what I said in an above post. It's been 18 months of following the science, now apparently it's not for "health reasons" anymore. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78293331 United States 09/05/2021 10:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UK: 12-15 year olds will be able to over-rule their parents & get Covid jab vaccine minister reveals.. Teenagers will be able to over-rule their parents & get Covid jab – if doctors say they are ‘competent’, minister admits Quoting: Cannabis Kills People!.... TEENAGERS can overrule their parents and get the Covid jab if they are deemed "competent" to make the decision, a minister sensationally admitted today. After repeatedly promising parents that parental consent will be required for teens to be jabbed, Nadhim Zahawi admitted there is a loophole where under 16s will be able to get around it. Nadhim Zahawi admitted there is a loophole where under 16s can overrule their parents to get a jab [link to www.thesun.co.uk (secure)] I see someone is proud to have children taking the experimental shot. Don't you even know what is in it. No ! But you promote it and support it. That sound logical right |
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(OP) User ID: 73592041 United Kingdom 09/05/2021 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UK: 12-15 year olds will be able to over-rule their parents & get Covid jab vaccine minister reveals.. Teenagers will be able to over-rule their parents & get Covid jab – if doctors say they are ‘competent’, minister admits Quoting: Cannabis Kills People!.... TEENAGERS can overrule their parents and get the Covid jab if they are deemed "competent" to make the decision, a minister sensationally admitted today. After repeatedly promising parents that parental consent will be required for teens to be jabbed, Nadhim Zahawi admitted there is a loophole where under 16s will be able to get around it. Nadhim Zahawi admitted there is a loophole where under 16s can overrule their parents to get a jab [link to www.thesun.co.uk (secure)] I see someone is proud to have children taking the experimental shot. Don't you even know what is in it. No ! But you promote it and support it. That sound logical right Who is proud?... Polish First.. Slav Power!... Quadruple vaxxed and boostered crew.. Go Putin!... I don't give Karma so STFU!... if someone gives you Karma saying CKP, its not me.. only you sad weirdos with no life give users Karma... FACT!.. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80666886 United States 09/05/2021 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UK: 12-15 year olds will be able to over-rule their parents & get Covid jab vaccine minister reveals.. Teenagers will be able to over-rule their parents & get Covid jab – if doctors say they are ‘competent’, minister admits Quoting: Cannabis Kills People!.... TEENAGERS can overrule their parents and get the Covid jab if they are deemed "competent" to make the decision, a minister sensationally admitted today. After repeatedly promising parents that parental consent will be required for teens to be jabbed, Nadhim Zahawi admitted there is a loophole where under 16s will be able to get around it. Nadhim Zahawi admitted there is a loophole where under 16s can overrule their parents to get a jab [link to www.thesun.co.uk (secure)] That's it, Boris Johnson's government just jumped the shark. Come the next election, he's done. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80604141 Finland 09/05/2021 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UK: 12-15 year olds will be able to over-rule their parents & get Covid jab vaccine minister reveals.. Same thing here. Parents can't request or deny vaccination and they are not entitled to know if their kid has been vaccinated or not. It's all up to the kids themselves. This is the law how healthcare system in general (not just re: vaccines) should treat a 12+ old. The parents are shut out of it (both permissions and access to kids' medical history) and the kids make their own decisions. It works because the kids get everything for free, so the parents don't even get billed. The vaccine has already been implemented and most 12-15 yo have been vaccinated at schools. All is as it should be. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73084856 United Kingdom 09/05/2021 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UK: 12-15 year olds will be able to over-rule their parents & get Covid jab vaccine minister reveals.. They can only over rule their parents in some cases. Routinely the parents consent must not be avoided. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73084856 I suggest you actually read up on the Gillick protocol. [link to www.cqc.org.uk (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73084856 United Kingdom 09/05/2021 10:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UK: 12-15 year olds will be able to over-rule their parents & get Covid jab vaccine minister reveals.. Gillick competence Victoria Gillick challenged Department of Health guidance which enabled doctors to provide contraceptive advice and treatment to girls under 16 without their parents knowing. In 1983 the judgement from this case laid out criteria for establishing whether a child under has the capacity to provide consent to treatment; the so-called ‘Gillick test’. It was determined that children under 16 can consent if they have sufficient understanding and intelligence to fully understand what is involved in a proposed treatment, including its purpose, nature, likely effects and risks, chances of success and the availability of other options. If a child passes the Gillick test, he or she is considered ‘Gillick competent’ to consent to that medical treatment or intervention. However, as with adults, this consent is only valid if given voluntarily and not under undue influence or pressure by anyone else. Additionally, a child may have the capacity to consent to some treatments but not others. The understanding required for different interventions will vary, and capacity can also fluctuate such as in certain mental health conditions. Therefore each individual decision requires assessment of Gillick competence. If a child does not pass the Gillick test, then the consent of a person with parental responsibility (or sometimes the courts) is needed in order to proceed with treatment. Fraser guidelines The ‘Fraser guidelines’ specifically relate only to contraception and sexual health. They are named after one of the Lords responsible for the Gillick judgement but who went on to address the specific issue of giving contraceptive advice and treatment to those under 16 without parental consent. The House of Lords concluded that advice can be given in this situation as long as: He/she has sufficient maturity and intelligence to understand the nature and implications of the proposed treatment He/she cannot be persuaded to tell her parents or to allow the doctor to tell them He/she is very likely to begin or continue having sexual intercourse with or without contraceptive treatment His/her physical or mental health is likely to suffer unless he/she received the advice or treatment The advice or treatment is in the young person’s best interests. Health professionals should still encourage the young person to inform his or her parent(s) or get permission to do so on their behalf, but if this permission is not given they can still give the child advice and treatment. If the conditions are not all met, however, or there is reason to believe that the child is under pressure to give consent or is being exploited, there would be grounds to break confidentiality. Fraser guidelines originally just related to contraceptive advice and treatment but, following a case in 2006, they now apply to decisions about treatment for sexually transmitted infections and termination of pregnancy. Under 13 There is no lower age limit for Gillick competence or Fraser guidelines to be applied. That said, it would rarely be appropriate or safe for a child less than 13 years of age to consent to treatment without a parent’s involvement. When it comes to sexual health, those under 13 are not legally able to consent to any sexual activity, and therefore any information that such a person was sexually active would need to be acted on, regardless of the results of the Gillick test. 16-17 year olds Young people aged 16 or 17 are presumed in law, like adults, to have the capacity to consent to medical treatment. However, unlike adults, their refusal of treatment can in some circumstances be overridden by a parent, someone with parental responsibility or a court. This is because we have an overriding duty to act in the best interests of a child. This would include circumstances where refusal would likely lead to death, severe permanent injury or irreversible mental or physical harm. Under 16: safeguarding considerations If a young person under the age of 16 presents to a health care professional, then discloses a history raising safeguarding concerns: If they are not deemed to be Gillick competent, the health professional is obliged to raise the issue as a safeguarding concern and escalate their concerns through the safeguarding process If they are deemed to be Gillick competent and disclosure is considered essential to protect them from harm or to be in the public interest, the health professional should escalate concerns through the safeguarding processes In both cases, the health professional should inform the young person of this action, unless doing so could pose significant additional risk for their safe care. It is reasonable for the local authority or police to decide whether it is appropriate to inform the parents of the concerns raised. In some circumstances this may not be in the best interest of the young person. Summary Gillick competence is the principle we use to judge capacity in children to consent to medical treatment. Fraser guidelines are used specifically for children requesting contraceptive or sexual health advice and treatment. Where a person under the age of 16 is not Gillick competent and therefore is deemed to lack the capacity to consent, it can be given on their behalf by someone with parental responsibility or by the court. However, there is still a duty to keep the child’s best interests at the heart of any decision, and the child or young person should be involved in the decision-making process as far as possible. |
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User ID: 80833996 South Africa 09/05/2021 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UK: 12-15 year olds will be able to over-rule their parents & get Covid jab vaccine minister reveals.. Anybody who wants to screw up their natural auto-immunity system is quite within their rights to I guess I would hope they do some research instead of just following MSM propaganda tho Your body, your choice "I have no special talent, I am only passionately curious." -Albert Einstein |
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