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Teenagers will be able to over-rule their parents & get Covid jab – if doctors say they are ‘competent’, minister admits

TEENAGERS can overrule their parents and get the Covid jab if they are deemed "competent" to make the decision, a minister sensationally admitted today.

After repeatedly promising parents that parental consent will be required for teens to be jabbed, Nadhim Zahawi admitted there is a loophole where under 16s will be able to get around it.

Nadhim Zahawi admitted there is a loophole where under 16s can overrule their parents to get a jab

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But they say vaccine is not approved for teenagers?
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But they say vaccine is not approved for teenagers?
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But they say vaccine is not approved for teenagers?
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JCVI are independent advisors..

Government and ministers can overrule them and approve the vax...

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Natural immunity provides better protection against COVID-19 than Pfizer vaccine, Israeli study confirms


Fully vaccinated people several times more likely to get COVID-19


(Natural News) A new Israeli study has confirmed that natural immunity from a previous Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) infection can offer more protection than getting two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech coronavirus vaccine.

The study was conducted by a team of Israeli researchers from Tel Aviv University and Maccabi Healthcare Services. It was done long after the post-vaccine delta variant of COVID-19 became the dominant coronavirus strain in Israel and had begun wreaking havoc in one of the world’s most vaccinated nations.

Fully vaccinated people several times more likely to get COVID-19
For this study, the researchers looked at more than 800,000 people, some of whom had received both doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine and never had coronavirus and others who were unvaccinated people who had recovered from previous COVID-19 infections. (Related: GREAT NEWS: Natural immunity to coronavirus is comprehensive and DURABLE – study.)

The researchers found that fully vaccinated people were several times more likely to experience a breakthrough COVID-19 infection than people with natural immunity to the coronavirus.

According to the study, fully vaccinated individuals who had no prior exposure to the coronavirus were 5.96 times more likely to get infected with the delta variant compared to those with natural immunity. They were also 7.13 times more likely to experience COVID-19 symptoms. These symptoms include coughing, developing a fever and experiencing shortness of breath.

After three months, this risk in fully vaccinated individuals increases. They become 13.06 times more likely to get infected, and 27.02 times more likely to experience COVID-19 symptoms.

“This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer-lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the [Pfizer-BioNTech] two-dose vaccine-induced immunity,” read the study.

The study authors stated that their research is the largest real-world observational study that compared the immunity supposedly given by the COVID-19 vaccines with natural immunity gained from previous coronavirus infections.

“Our large cohort, enabled by Israel’s rapid rollout of the mass vaccination campaign, allowed us to investigate the risk for additional infection – either a breakthrough infection in vaccinated individuals or reinfection in previously infected ones – over a longer period than thus far described.”

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But they say vaccine is not approved for teenagers?
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JCVI are independent advisors..

Government and ministers can overrule them and approve the vax...

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What happened to "Following the Science".!

This proves the UK .Gov have gone rogue and tosspots like you CKP are government enablers.

You should be absolutely disgusted with yourself for constantly pushing this agenda.
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Fuck the C19 vaccine.. natural immunity wins.

CKP you must absolutely hate videos like the one below.

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But they say vaccine is not approved for teenagers?
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JCVI are independent advisors..

Government and ministers can overrule them and approve the vax...

 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People!....


Are you a Jaffa by any chance CKP.
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But they say vaccine is not approved for teenagers?
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JCVI are independent advisors..

Government and ministers can overrule them and approve the vax...

 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People!....


Are you a Jaffa by any chance CKP.
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I have no idea what you mean...
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He's a Tosspot Jaffa.
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But they say vaccine is not approved for teenagers?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77233414


JCVI are independent advisors..

Government and ministers can overrule them and approve the vax...

 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People!....


Are you a Jaffa by any chance CKP.
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I have no idea what you mean...
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He means you are seedless and I say you are spineless.
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Teenagers will be able to over-rule their parents & get Covid jab – if doctors say they are ‘competent’, minister admits

TEENAGERS can overrule their parents and get the Covid jab if they are deemed "competent" to make the decision, a minister sensationally admitted today.

After repeatedly promising parents that parental consent will be required for teens to be jabbed, Nadhim Zahawi admitted there is a loophole where under 16s will be able to get around it.

Nadhim Zahawi admitted there is a loophole where under 16s can overrule their parents to get a jab

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Right here is when notices are sent to the men and women of the acting as state government. If you don't you are deemed to accept it. Wake up and don't be lazy.
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But they say vaccine is not approved for teenagers?
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JCVI are independent advisors..

Government and ministers can overrule them and approve the vax...

 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People!....


Are you a Jaffa by any chance CKP.
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I have no idea what you mean...
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Is that stuff that lands on your wrist seedless like a Jaffa orange.
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Re: UK: 12-15 year olds will be able to over-rule their parents & get Covid jab vaccine minister reveals..
But they say vaccine is not approved for teenagers?
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JCVI are independent advisors..

Government and ministers can overrule them and approve the vax...

 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People!....


So, what happened to "Follow the Science?"

Not even pretending this is about health any more
There are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen
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JCVI are independent advisors..

Government and ministers can overrule them and approve the vax...

 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People!....


Are you a Jaffa by any chance CKP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79221027


I have no idea what you mean...
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People!....


He means you are seedless and I say you are spineless.
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I have a grown up daughter with 2 grand kids... not that it's any of your business...

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But they say vaccine is not approved for teenagers?
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JCVI are independent advisors..

Government and ministers can overrule them and approve the vax...

 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People!....


So, what happened to "Follow the Science?"

Not even pretending this is about health any more
 Quoting: Tess.


That's exactly what I said in an above post.

It's been 18 months of following the science, now apparently it's not for "health reasons" anymore.
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Teenagers will be able to over-rule their parents & get Covid jab – if doctors say they are ‘competent’, minister admits

TEENAGERS can overrule their parents and get the Covid jab if they are deemed "competent" to make the decision, a minister sensationally admitted today.

After repeatedly promising parents that parental consent will be required for teens to be jabbed, Nadhim Zahawi admitted there is a loophole where under 16s will be able to get around it.

Nadhim Zahawi admitted there is a loophole where under 16s can overrule their parents to get a jab

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I see someone is proud to have children taking the experimental shot. Don't you even know what is in it. No ! But you promote it and support it. That sound logical right 1rof1
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Teenagers will be able to over-rule their parents & get Covid jab – if doctors say they are ‘competent’, minister admits

TEENAGERS can overrule their parents and get the Covid jab if they are deemed "competent" to make the decision, a minister sensationally admitted today.

After repeatedly promising parents that parental consent will be required for teens to be jabbed, Nadhim Zahawi admitted there is a loophole where under 16s will be able to get around it.

Nadhim Zahawi admitted there is a loophole where under 16s can overrule their parents to get a jab

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I see someone is proud to have children taking the experimental shot. Don't you even know what is in it. No ! But you promote it and support it. That sound logical right 1rof1
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Who is proud?...
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They can only over rule their parents in some cases. Routinely the parents consent must not be avoided.

I suggest you actually read up on the Gillick protocol.
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Teenagers will be able to over-rule their parents & get Covid jab – if doctors say they are ‘competent’, minister admits

TEENAGERS can overrule their parents and get the Covid jab if they are deemed "competent" to make the decision, a minister sensationally admitted today.

After repeatedly promising parents that parental consent will be required for teens to be jabbed, Nadhim Zahawi admitted there is a loophole where under 16s will be able to get around it.

Nadhim Zahawi admitted there is a loophole where under 16s can overrule their parents to get a jab

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That's it, Boris Johnson's government just jumped the shark. Come the next election, he's done.
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Same thing here. Parents can't request or deny vaccination and they are not entitled to know if their kid has been vaccinated or not.

It's all up to the kids themselves. This is the law how healthcare system in general (not just re: vaccines) should treat a 12+ old. The parents are shut out of it (both permissions and access to kids' medical history) and the kids make their own decisions.

It works because the kids get everything for free, so the parents don't even get billed.

The vaccine has already been implemented and most 12-15 yo have been vaccinated at schools.

All is as it should be.
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They can only over rule their parents in some cases. Routinely the parents consent must not be avoided.

I suggest you actually read up on the Gillick protocol.
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My best friend's daughter works at Apple and she thinks her daughter got the jab but is not telling her, I bet this is happening a lot!
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Gillick competence
Victoria Gillick challenged Department of Health guidance which enabled doctors to provide contraceptive advice and treatment to girls under 16 without their parents knowing. In 1983 the judgement from this case laid out criteria for establishing whether a child under has the capacity to provide consent to treatment; the so-called ‘Gillick test’. It was determined that children under 16 can consent if they have sufficient understanding and intelligence to fully understand what is involved in a proposed treatment, including its purpose, nature, likely effects and risks, chances of success and the availability of other options.

If a child passes the Gillick test, he or she is considered ‘Gillick competent’ to consent to that medical treatment or intervention. However, as with adults, this consent is only valid if given voluntarily and not under undue influence or pressure by anyone else. Additionally, a child may have the capacity to consent to some treatments but not others. The understanding required for different interventions will vary, and capacity can also fluctuate such as in certain mental health conditions. Therefore each individual decision requires assessment of Gillick competence.

If a child does not pass the Gillick test, then the consent of a person with parental responsibility (or sometimes the courts) is needed in order to proceed with treatment.

Fraser guidelines
The ‘Fraser guidelines’ specifically relate only to contraception and sexual health. They are named after one of the Lords responsible for the Gillick judgement but who went on to address the specific issue of giving contraceptive advice and treatment to those under 16 without parental consent. The House of Lords concluded that advice can be given in this situation as long as:

He/she has sufficient maturity and intelligence to understand the nature and implications of the proposed treatment
He/she cannot be persuaded to tell her parents or to allow the doctor to tell them
He/she is very likely to begin or continue having sexual intercourse with or without contraceptive treatment
His/her physical or mental health is likely to suffer unless he/she received the advice or treatment
The advice or treatment is in the young person’s best interests.
Health professionals should still encourage the young person to inform his or her parent(s) or get permission to do so on their behalf, but if this permission is not given they can still give the child advice and treatment. If the conditions are not all met, however, or there is reason to believe that the child is under pressure to give consent or is being exploited, there would be grounds to break confidentiality.

Fraser guidelines originally just related to contraceptive advice and treatment but, following a case in 2006, they now apply to decisions about treatment for sexually transmitted infections and termination of pregnancy.

Under 13
There is no lower age limit for Gillick competence or Fraser guidelines to be applied. That said, it would rarely be appropriate or safe for a child less than 13 years of age to consent to treatment without a parent’s involvement. When it comes to sexual health, those under 13 are not legally able to consent to any sexual activity, and therefore any information that such a person was sexually active would need to be acted on, regardless of the results of the Gillick test.

16-17 year olds
Young people aged 16 or 17 are presumed in law, like adults, to have the capacity to consent to medical treatment. However, unlike adults, their refusal of treatment can in some circumstances be overridden by a parent, someone with parental responsibility or a court. This is because we have an overriding duty to act in the best interests of a child. This would include circumstances where refusal would likely lead to death, severe permanent injury or irreversible mental or physical harm.

Under 16: safeguarding considerations
If a young person under the age of 16 presents to a health care professional, then discloses a history raising safeguarding concerns:

If they are not deemed to be Gillick competent, the health professional is obliged to raise the issue as a safeguarding concern and escalate their concerns through the safeguarding process
If they are deemed to be Gillick competent and disclosure is considered essential to protect them from harm or to be in the public interest, the health professional should escalate concerns through the safeguarding processes
In both cases, the health professional should inform the young person of this action, unless doing so could pose significant additional risk for their safe care.
It is reasonable for the local authority or police to decide whether it is appropriate to inform the parents of the concerns raised. In some circumstances this may not be in the best interest of the young person.

Summary
Gillick competence is the principle we use to judge capacity in children to consent to medical treatment. Fraser guidelines are used specifically for children requesting contraceptive or sexual health advice and treatment. Where a person under the age of 16 is not Gillick competent and therefore is deemed to lack the capacity to consent, it can be given on their behalf by someone with parental responsibility or by the court. However, there is still a duty to keep the child’s best interests at the heart of any decision, and the child or young person should be involved in the decision-making process as far as possible.
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I had a brain by the time I was 12. If these dumb kids take the vaccine then it's no loss to humanity.
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Anybody who wants to screw up their natural auto-immunity system is quite within their rights to I guess

I would hope they do some research instead of just following MSM propaganda tho

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I had a brain by the time I was 12. If these dumb kids take the vaccine then it's no loss to humanity.
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I was smoking and drinking at the age of 12

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Pfizer data suggest that vaccinating teens strongly supports their revenue.
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But they say vaccine is not approved for teenagers?
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Following the science until....

Fucking agenda is obvious. Anyone that has took the clot shot is part of the problem
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Covid fanatics: “listen to the experts”

The experts: “the risks to 12-15 year olds outweigh the benefits”

Covid fanatics: “the experts are wrong”!





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