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Urgent! Need help re vaxx exemption for friend in Montana

 
Happy in Nature  (OP)

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Montana should not be hard. The government made it illegal for anyone including all employers to mandate this.
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That's what I thought, but sounds like they are getting pressured by federal government.
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Why can't he live with you

If he is a dear friend

Protect him
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I live in another country. He had to move back to the US because as a paraplegic, he could no longer afford to care for himself. I am trying to protect him by reaching out and getting advice that will keep him from getting jabbed.
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One of my dearest friends in the world is a paraplegic living in a govt. subsidized assisted living facility. He has been told he will lose benefits if not jabbed.

He has kidney issues. The doctors said he would not live past 35 because of it, but he has persevered. The spike protein concentrations in the organs would likely be fatal.

I sent him link to frontline doctors, but if someone has a contact in Missoula that could help or advocate for him, it is very much appreciated.

We used to hang out surfing GLP for news. He was the only person in my physical location whom I could talk to about these subjects. Now that he is in the US at a care facility, surfing conspiracy sites is not an option permitted by the internet administrators at his residence.

As you know, the pressure to get jabbed is intense. He has never had a vaxx. He has huge problems coughing and sneezing, so he cannot afford to get covid, but he cannot afford the side effects of vaxx, either.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


What benefits are they threatening and is it the care center or the federal government that is threatening to revoke benefits?
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One of my dearest friends in the world is a paraplegic living in a govt. subsidized assisted living facility. He has been told he will lose benefits if not jabbed.

He has kidney issues. The doctors said he would not live past 35 because of it, but he has persevered. The spike protein concentrations in the organs would likely be fatal.

I sent him link to frontline doctors, but if someone has a contact in Missoula that could help or advocate for him, it is very much appreciated.

We used to hang out surfing GLP for news. He was the only person in my physical location whom I could talk to about these subjects. Now that he is in the US at a care facility, surfing conspiracy sites is not an option permitted by the internet administrators at his residence.

As you know, the pressure to get jabbed is intense. He has never had a vaxx. He has huge problems coughing and sneezing, so he cannot afford to get covid, but he cannot afford the side effects of vaxx, either.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


What benefits are they threatening and is it the care center or the federal government that is threatening to revoke benefits?
 Quoting: 762hillboy


The care center has a vaxxed policy and it appears they are threatening local benefits (food stamps, etc.) It's hard because he doesn't have an advocate there. Everyone wants him jabbed and they are willing to lie or threaten a disabled person to push the vaxx.. He is out of his league. He was never part of the system and doesn't understand how it works.
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Go to
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Peggy Hall explains the law very well, and has countless videos that everyone needs to watch so they can understand, and then demand their God given rights are respected.

This is just bullying and it is unlawful. Sounds like the care home is getting kickbacks for 100% compliance, just like doctors do for vaccines in their practice.

It is despicable so many have chosen to harm others just for a buck, and for the despotic evil fake power they feel when they do this. There is mass possession going on.

They also want to kill him for the bucks. Still handing out 50 grand for intubation death, plus money on top of that for covid diagnosis, which would be fraudulent.

This is outright fraud, racketeering and murder.

Once he puts together an exemption letter after listening to Peggy, i recommend he and everyone further their education and learn about the Supreme Law of the Land.

I would also have him contact his county sheriff, remind them of their oath and ask for their help by filing a criminal complaint, since he is now a victim of gross medical, criminal malfeasance and he is being threatened. He can read and send them information so they understand what their job actually is.
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We are in this position because people do not know their rights, and therefore can not demand they be respected. Generations before ours, the communist manifesto was implemented, and this is the result.

Eternal vigilance means exactly that. So now we have extra work to do to get back to where we started. Because our Republic was divinely inspired, God will help those who help themselves.

God bless you and your dear friend. He will be in my prayers.
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One of my dearest friends in the world is a paraplegic living in a govt. subsidized assisted living facility. He has been told he will lose benefits if not jabbed.

He has kidney issues. The doctors said he would not live past 35 because of it, but he has persevered. The spike protein concentrations in the organs would likely be fatal.

I sent him link to frontline doctors, but if someone has a contact in Missoula that could help or advocate for him, it is very much appreciated.

We used to hang out surfing GLP for news. He was the only person in my physical location whom I could talk to about these subjects. Now that he is in the US at a care facility, surfing conspiracy sites is not an option permitted by the internet administrators at his residence.

As you know, the pressure to get jabbed is intense. He has never had a vaxx. He has huge problems coughing and sneezing, so he cannot afford to get covid, but he cannot afford the side effects of vaxx, either.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


I know i am late, but,i offer religious exemptions, and am an ordained minister.

if i can help please email me [email protected]
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Your friend need should already know what to do. I find you can't tell people how to defend themselves. They have to learn on thier own. Most of them will cave when the time comes to fight back anyway!
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other thoughts

The care home has a fiduciary relationship with the government, and therefore must uphold what is lawful and constitutinal. If they do not, their license can and should be revoked. What they are doing is illegal, unlawful and criminal.

The sheriffs can implement an investigation because these care homes are thieves who take control of the people they are supposed to serve ssi benefits, etc.

They are not respecting his wishes, which they are bound by law to do, and cna not force-ably inject him nor thru extortion threats or bribery make him take something he does not give them permission to do.

He should try to move somewhere asap, before they sedate him and intubate him and kill him, they are doing this everywhere.
He should still contact his sheriff even if he does move, for he is not the only one they are doing this to.

Where are all the lawyers who should be standing up for the people?
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Montana should not be hard. The government made it illegal for anyone including all employers to mandate this.
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EXACTLY!!!!
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One of my dearest friends in the world is a paraplegic living in a govt. subsidized assisted living facility. He has been told he will lose benefits if not jabbed.

He has kidney issues. The doctors said he would not live past 35 because of it, but he has persevered. The spike protein concentrations in the organs would likely be fatal.

I sent him link to frontline doctors, but if someone has a contact in Missoula that could help or advocate for him, it is very much appreciated.

We used to hang out surfing GLP for news. He was the only person in my physical location whom I could talk to about these subjects. Now that he is in the US at a care facility, surfing conspiracy sites is not an option permitted by the internet administrators at his residence.

As you know, the pressure to get jabbed is intense. He has never had a vaxx. He has huge problems coughing and sneezing, so he cannot afford to get covid, but he cannot afford the side effects of vaxx, either.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


Tell him to go to jdfarag.org and request a religious exemption. However, I am surprised his docto(s) won't supply him with a medical exemption.

Additionally, the Montana governor signed into law that there would be no Vax mandates in Montana following is an excerpt from the linked article. They cannot force him to get it or kick him out. They are harassing and lying to him.

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"Montana law also prohibits any person or “government entity to refuse, withhold from, or deny to a person any local or state services, goods, facilities, advantages, privileges, licensing, educational opportunities, health care access, or employment opportunities based on the person’s vaccination status or whether the person has an immunity passport.”

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Thank you all for the advice. I am forwarding it in an email.
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Additionally, if you want to protect him, go to a news station and contact the government Healthcare facilities oversight department...turn them in .
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Are they saying he will lose social security disability benefits if not jabbed? That's the first I have heard of this if so. I've been thinking they will try it, but have not heard of it being done yet. Are is it some other type of benefit, such as food stamps, etc.?

So sorry that your friend is having to go through this. Looks like you have gotten some good tips. You could also try Liberty Counsel - [link to www.lc.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Daniel Higdon


Yes, he will lose food stamps, nursing and physical therapist care, and other benefits for a paraplegic. The assisted living center is pushing it as well. He needs someone 24/7. He was in a horrible accident when he was 18 (not his fault), and his father squandered the insurance settlement, leaving him in need of lifetime care that he cannot afford. He never accepted a penny of public assistance for the first 20 years - not even Social Security that he was entitled to by law.

He moved out of the US for affordable nursing care, but had to return two years ago because his monthly bills were too high (living in poverty and forced to pay poverty wages, too) and he need medical care and to get set up on Social Security.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


They cannot legally deny him these benefits. The nursing home is forcing him to get the jab so they can get a government bonus. No one I know who is disabled and getting food stamps and medicaid has been told they will be denied if they don't get the jab.

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One of my dearest friends in the world is a paraplegic living in a govt. subsidized assisted living facility. He has been told he will lose benefits if not jabbed.

He has kidney issues. The doctors said he would not live past 35 because of it, but he has persevered. The spike protein concentrations in the organs would likely be fatal.

I sent him link to frontline doctors, but if someone has a contact in Missoula that could help or advocate for him, it is very much appreciated.

We used to hang out surfing GLP for news. He was the only person in my physical location whom I could talk to about these subjects. Now that he is in the US at a care facility, surfing conspiracy sites is not an option permitted by the internet administrators at his residence.

As you know, the pressure to get jabbed is intense. He has never had a vaxx. He has huge problems coughing and sneezing, so he cannot afford to get covid, but he cannot afford the side effects of vaxx, either.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


What benefits are they threatening and is it the care center or the federal government that is threatening to revoke benefits?
 Quoting: 762hillboy


The care center has a vaxxed policy and it appears they are threatening local benefits (food stamps, etc.) It's hard because he doesn't have an advocate there. Everyone wants him jabbed and they are willing to lie or threaten a disabled person to push the vaxx.. He is out of his league. He was never part of the system and doesn't understand how it works.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


This is so sad. It's absolutely abuse as these threats cause so much mental anguish for people. I sincerely hope he is able to fight this, mentally and emotionally. it does take a toll especially on people that are already facing such challenges as he is.

It's like these covid maniacs are in some kind of trance and will use any means necessary to advance their evil agenda.
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Are they saying he will lose social security disability benefits if not jabbed? That's the first I have heard of this if so. I've been thinking they will try it, but have not heard of it being done yet. Are is it some other type of benefit, such as food stamps, etc.?

So sorry that your friend is having to go through this. Looks like you have gotten some good tips. You could also try Liberty Counsel - [link to www.lc.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Daniel Higdon


Yes, he will lose food stamps, nursing and physical therapist care, and other benefits for a paraplegic. The assisted living center is pushing it as well. He needs someone 24/7. He was in a horrible accident when he was 18 (not his fault), and his father squandered the insurance settlement, leaving him in need of lifetime care that he cannot afford. He never accepted a penny of public assistance for the first 20 years - not even Social Security that he was entitled to by law.

He moved out of the US for affordable nursing care, but had to return two years ago because his monthly bills were too high (living in poverty and forced to pay poverty wages, too) and he need medical care and to get set up on Social Security.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


They cannot legally deny him these benefits. The nursing home is forcing him to get the jab so they can get a government bonus. No one I know who is disabled and getting food stamps and medicaid has been told they will be denied if they don't get the jab.
 Quoting: tiger1


I agree.

I have a family member that works at a nursing home in Texas. She told me that they had covid patients again, 4 of whom were vaccinated and 1 wasn't. Sounds like there is no "rule" that all nursing home residents have to be vaccinated.
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I read here that the Chinese vaccine Sinovac isnt as bad as the others because it's made from deactivated virus not MNRA.
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So far as internet I use "visible" no data limit flat $40/mo and allows hot spot to laptop

He's allowed a cellphone I assume?

I don't see anything about VA benefits cut if no covid shot

They're probably lying
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How about not living in Montanastan.
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Dear Retards,

Read the bill. HB 702. Long term care facilities (nursing homes) CAN require the vax in MT. The only entity that can.

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Dear Retards,

Read the bill. HB 702. Long term care facilities (nursing homes) CAN require the vax in MT. The only entity that can.

- Amen


Link to Bill :

[link to leg.mt.gov (secure)]
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Weird. I'd contact the state legislature. Montana is the only state to pass a law making vaccine mandates illegal for private employers. They're hardcore.
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Montana should not be hard. The government made it illegal for anyone including all employers to mandate this.
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


That's what I thought, but sounds like they are getting pressured by federal government.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


Why can't he live with you

If he is a dear friend

Protect him
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80732126


I live in another country. He had to move back to the US because as a paraplegic, he could no longer afford to care for himself. I am trying to protect him by reaching out and getting advice that will keep him from getting jabbed.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


If you can tell me the care facility and name I will be an advocate. I am here in Missoula. Like. I said...45 days in ICU. And murder hospitals trying to send me out for botched liver transplant? I am not sure how to reach you directly. I have a few friends that are para. So concerned I might know them..


Montana should not be hard. The government made it illegal for anyone including all employers to mandate this.
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


That's what I thought, but sounds like they are getting pressured by federal government.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


Why can't he live with you

If he is a dear friend

Protect him
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80732126


I live in another country. He had to move back to the US because as a paraplegic, he could no longer afford to care for himself. I am trying to protect him by reaching out and getting advice that will keep him from getting jabbed.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature
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That's what I thought, but sounds like they are getting pressured by federal government.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


Why can't he live with you

If he is a dear friend

Protect him
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80732126


I live in another country. He had to move back to the US because as a paraplegic, he could no longer afford to care for himself. I am trying to protect him by reaching out and getting advice that will keep him from getting jabbed.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


If you can tell me the care facility and name I will be an advocate. I am here in Missoula. Like. I said...45 days in ICU. And murder hospitals trying to send me out for botched liver transplant? I am not sure how to reach you directly. I have a few friends that are para. So concerned I might know them..


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That's what I thought, but sounds like they are getting pressured by federal government.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


Why can't he live with you

If he is a dear friend

Protect him
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80732126


I live in another country. He had to move back to the US because as a paraplegic, he could no longer afford to care for himself. I am trying to protect him by reaching out and getting advice that will keep him from getting jabbed.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80346912


Thank you. Let me get the details tomorrow and I will post a follow-up here with a way to contact.
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Please keep us updated on how this works out.

I like others think they are just trying to coerce him into taking it.

Hope that's the case!
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I thought Montana passed a law recently about mandates?
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Here OP!!!!!!

Thread: Montana Only State To Ban Vaccine Requirements For Employees (A win against medical tyranny)

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Praying things tyrnaround hf please keep us posted . Great info. Here hf
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Montana is the only state I'm aware of that has laws on the books about discriminating against someone who doesn't want to be given the mRNA therapy shots.

They even made it illegal for companies to use mRNA "vaccination" status as a condition of employment.

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I'd be surprised if they could legally demand your friend be "vaccinated" since the state of Montana is leading the country in laws preventing businesses, employers, etc. from using "vaccination" status to discriminate.

Has he talked to a lawyer?
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Montana is the only state I'm aware of that has laws on the books about discriminating against someone who doesn't want to be given the mRNA therapy shots.

They even made it illegal for companies to use mRNA "vaccination" status as a condition of employment.

[link to apnews.com (secure)]


I'd be surprised if they could legally demand your friend be "vaccinated" since the state of Montana is leading the country in laws preventing businesses, employers, etc. from using "vaccination" status to discriminate.

Has he talked to a lawyer?
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I just heard about his in the morning. He is not an aggressive type and hates to make waves, but he doesn't want the shot. I am assuming his family members got it and are ramping up the pressure. he doesn't ahve finds for a lawyer, so I wil try to help him best as I can if it comes to that.

I sent him the information on the thread and hopefully he will let me put him in touch with someone in the same area willing to help him.

Someone mentioned that the only exemption to the Montana law was care facilities. I will look more into that as well.
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If you do it you don't have to keep scrambling all around.


Just go with the wave.
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Are they saying he will lose social security disability benefits if not jabbed? That's the first I have heard of this if so. I've been thinking they will try it, but have not heard of it being done yet. Are is it some other type of benefit, such as food stamps, etc.?

So sorry that your friend is having to go through this. Looks like you have gotten some good tips. You could also try Liberty Counsel - [link to www.lc.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Daniel Higdon


Yes, he will lose food stamps, nursing and physical therapist care, and other benefits for a paraplegic. The assisted living center is pushing it as well. He needs someone 24/7. He was in a horrible accident when he was 18 (not his fault), and his father squandered the insurance settlement, leaving him in need of lifetime care that he cannot afford. He never accepted a penny of public assistance for the first 20 years - not even Social Security that he was entitled to by law.

He moved out of the US for affordable nursing care, but had to return two years ago because his monthly bills were too high (living in poverty and forced to pay poverty wages, too) and he need medical care and to get set up on Social Security.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


They are outright lying to him. I live in Montana, collect SS and SNAP. I have numerous friends that live in assistive living facilities, and no one has even raised even the possibility of benefits being taken away for non-vaccinated status.

I'm not saying that they may try this in the future, but as of now - NOBODY in Montana is being forced to vax.





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