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'The whole system imploded': How Ida crippled Louisiana's gasoline distribution

 
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'The whole system imploded': How Ida crippled Louisiana's gasoline distribution
As Hurricane Ida began toppling transmission towers and knocking out water systems across southeast Louisiana, another vital infrastructure system was slowly falling apart: gasoline distribution.

Lines of fuel tankers were already backing up at refineries by the time Ida smashed into the state, damaging several of the facilities and leaving seven Louisiana refiners out of production. None of those seven was fully operating as of Wednesday, according to the state Department of Environmental Quality, though at least two had begun the complex process of restarting.

Then came the closures of hundreds of gas stations that were pummeled by the vicious winds, funneling customers to a select few pumps that had power. Meanwhile, demand for fuel had skyrocketed: First, hundreds of thousands of people evacuated by car. And then a million-plus homes and businesses were left without power, many of them turning to gas-powered generators.

The resulting shortage has created scenes of desperation, anxiety and violence at gas pumps.


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Long lines at gas stations all across Southern Louisiana


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Fight over gas led to one person shot in Livingston


The owner of Frog's at Magnolia Beach said the two got in an argument over gasoline before shots were fired.

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still somewhat less than a million without power

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Half the gas stations in New Orleans and Baton Rouge are without fuel


As of 7 am CT on Wednesday, more than half of the gas stations in Baton Rouge (52.7%) and New Orleans (52.3%) were without fuel, according to outage figures compiled by GasBuddy. Nearly 13% of the gas stations in Louisiana are also being reported as without fuel.

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These outages do not include gas stations that can't service customers because they remain without power, GasBuddy said.


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In what way will this inconvenience me?
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still somewhat less than a million without power

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Power is slowly being restored, but it is a slow process due to the extreme damage.

More people returning to work now, including myself, so even more gas shortages?

A lot of local plants haven't been able to start up. Power issues and other things, like nitrogen availability, are slowing plans to restart.

Not sure how long this is going to last, but the impacts could be felt far and wide.
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In what way will this inconvenience me?
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Depends on how this impacts national gas distribution. Not sure yet.

I could imagine it will result in at least higher prices for the nation. Could also result in shortages.

From what we are seeing here, people aren't handling the shortages very well. Heard one law enforcement officer on a press conference yesterday say that they have a new term they are using to describe what is happening at gas stations: gasholes. He asked that people please don't be a gashole.
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Widespread gas shortages hit Louisiana after Hurricane Ida



FOX Business received another report of an individual waiting from around11:30 a.m. to 5 p.m. before they were able to finally get to the pump at the Meraux Quick Stop outside Chalmette, after using up a quarter tank of gas while in line.

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White House press secretary Jen Psaki said during a media briefing that the DOT would "extend and amend an emergency declaration that offers temporary flexibility to how many hours a truck driver can drive the supplies nationally to goods that support the covid-19 response and will now include gasoline and other types of fuel, building materials, medical supplies and food."

She said that the EPA had "approved emergency fuel waivers for Louisiana and Mississippi, affected immediately, which will expand the supply of gasoline that can be sold in these two states and increase availability at this critical time."


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In what way will this inconvenience me?
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Gas prices may go up in your area.

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Photos show black slick in water near Gulf oil rig after Ida

The NOAA photos show a black slick floating in the Gulf near a large rig with the name Enterprise Offshore Drilling painted on its helipad. The company, based in Houston, did not immediately respond to requests for comment by phone or email Wednesday.

Aerial photos taken by NOAA on Tuesday also show significant flooding to the massive Phillips 66 Alliance Refinery along the bank of the Mississippi River, just south of New Orleans. In some sections of the refinery, rainbow sheen is visible on the water leading toward the river.

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All told, seven Louisiana refineries remained shuttered Wednesday. Combined, they account for about 9% of all U.S. refining capacity, according to the U.S. Energy Department. Some refineries on the Mississippi River reported damage to their docks from barges that broke loose during the storm.

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Port Fourchon, which took a direct hit from the storm, is the primary service hub for hundreds of oil and gas rigs offshore. The port also contains oil terminals and pipelines that account for about 90% of the oil and gas production from the Gulf.

Photos taken by AP from a chartered helicopter Tuesday, as well as the NOAA imagery, show extensive damage to the sprawling facility, including sunken vessels, collapsed structures and more than a dozen large overturned fuel storage tanks.


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Trump will fix it.
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About 80% of oil production and 83% of gas production remained off line on Wednesday afternoon, according to the latest stats from the Bureau of Safety and Environmental Enforcement (BSEE), amounting to about 1.45 million barrels per day of oil and nearly 1.9 billion cubic feet per day of gas.


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A few companies, including BHP and Murphy Oil, took first steps for restarting offshore production. But they were in the minority. Just 39 of the 288 platforms evacuated last week had received new crews by Wednesday, according to the U.S. Bureau of Safety and Environmental Enforcement.

Some pipeline and oil processing facilities were able to resume operations. But most were hampered by power outages, lack of supplies and damages caused by the powerful winds. Port Fourchon, Louisiana, a vital center of offshore logistics, was left without power and water and its roads closed to all but emergency vehicles.

“The area is completely devastated,” said Tony Odak, chief operating officer of Stone Oil Distributor, a top supplier of fuel to the offshore industry. His company was relocating some activities to western Louisiana as part of its recovery plan.


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In what way will this inconvenience me?
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Higher gas prices and possibly shortage as shipments are diverted to southern areas.
Gas Production in Louisiana. Will stop tomorrow, because crude comes in at Port Fourchon, which no longer exists. Plants are out of crude. No gas.
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How are the electric cars working out now ? Generator ? You still need fuel. I know,an electric electric generator ?tomato
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When a plant, or section of a plant, goes offline, if can take months to restart.
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In what way will this inconvenience me?
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Higher gas prices and possibly shortage as shipments are diverted to southern areas.
Gas Production in Louisiana. Will stop tomorrow, because crude comes in at Port Fourchon, which no longer exists. Plants are out of crude. No gas.
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Thank you for that post.

I'm just trying to give a little head's up for people. Maybe it won't affect everyone too badly, but best to be prepared if possible.

I've lived here for 30 years and stayed through all the storms beginning with Andrew. I've never seen it get this ugly this fast here in Louisiana over fuel. People are tense and tempers are flaring.
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naturally zero negative criticism of the usurping election stealing burisma pedo in chief
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When a plant, or section of a plant, goes offline, if can take months to restart.
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I'm definitely worried about this and also about potential safety issues as they do try to restart. Won't fully know the damage until they start putting systems online.
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naturally zero negative criticism of the usurping election stealing burisma pedo in chief
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Unfortunately, the great state of Louisiana elected a Democrat governor. Both New Orleans and Baton Rouge have democrat mayors. They will try to bury any criticism of the usurper in the White House.
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Dangerous to even be at a gas station right now:

Thieves drove stolen vehicle full of kids from New Orleans to Grosse Tete, carjacked people parked at gas station


A pair of thieves from New Orleans drove a stolen car to Iberville Parish and later abandoned that vehicle before carjacking people parked at a gas station.

Louisiana State Police said the suspects were transporting a woman and five kids inside the stolen vehicle when they abandoned it. The suspects, identified as 26-year-old Ashton Davis and 22-year-old Aldon Ducre, then allegedly approached the victims in a gas station parking lot and stole their White Chevrolet Equinox at gunpoint.

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Feds using petroleum reserves to help relieve fuel shortages in La.

Congressman Garret Graves announced Thursday that the U.S. Department of Energy will use its Strategic Petroleum Reserve to help alleviate the fuel crisis in Louisiana following Hurricane Ida.

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Today, Biden said he opened up strategic oil reserves to fight covid. blink

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NO POWER, no NOTHING. Simple.


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Dangerous to even be at a gas station right now:

Thieves drove stolen vehicle full of kids from New Orleans to Grosse Tete, carjacked people parked at gas station


A pair of thieves from New Orleans drove a stolen car to Iberville Parish and later abandoned that vehicle before carjacking people parked at a gas station.

Louisiana State Police said the suspects were transporting a woman and five kids inside the stolen vehicle when they abandoned it. The suspects, identified as 26-year-old Ashton Davis and 22-year-old Aldon Ducre, then allegedly approached the victims in a gas station parking lot and stole their White Chevrolet Equinox at gunpoint.

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GREAT fucking plan, carjack someone OBVIOUSLY already low on gas!!!!


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Customer fatally shot in line at gas station in Jefferson Parish

According to Sheriff Joseph Lopinto, shortly after 4:15 P.M., a customer pulled a gun on another during an argument over gas and fatally shot him. The suspect drove off with other people in their vehicle.

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Lopinto said this was the second incident involving a gun at a gas station on the same day. A customer was arrested at another gas station earlier in the day after pulling his gun on another person.

"Ladies and gentlemen, the services aren't here," said Lopinto. "We don't have enough gas being delivered to stations. We don't have enough generators on. The lines are long. Everybody's out of control."


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